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- You dont really need to know how to fight when youre this ****…
After you've been lifting...
there are places which do not have muscle
you dont know how to fight
Thankfully we have you, anon, who have watched hundreds of hours of anime to train for that moment. Go forth and be an hero.
Why? Because you're so big, you'll scare everyone else away? Because strength is the only thing that matters in a fight? Because in a fight, size is more important than actually knowing how to fight?
Reducing fighting to one or two components is like saying that physics is just addition and/or subtraction.
I love how you try to bring physics in to support your argument. The individual over 250lbs with a low BMI. It doesn't matter if he knows jack shit about fighting. He has greater strength thanks to that extra weight he's throwing around. All he needs is to grab you, throw you to the ground and start wailing at you (none of which requires fighting experience, just some adrenaline and instinct) and it doesn't matter how much your 180lb body with years of functional strength and fighting experience has. You're fucked.
That's why weight classes exist. Because physics is a thing.
The fact that you posted an exaggeration and generalization shows that you don't have anything to support your claim. Nobody said speed was the only factor, so it's an irrelevant point to argue against it. You're not showing you know what you're talking about and you're only objectives were communicating that you disagree with me for reasons you weren't willing to explain and maybe gain recognition for it.
You say that as if that's the only possible outcome and you factored in size as an accurate representation of strength, which is an amateur observation. It does not require thought beyond the notion that more = better in every case. In reality, that's just the mind's tendency leaning towards focusing on negative outcomes in order to avoid them at play. You intentionally gave a vague scenario and took into no account for the context of a situation and yet declared it as absolute. In Layman's terms, you gave only one example and declared it as unfailing.
You said "grab...throw to the ground...and start wailing on you." You didn't say pin. You didn't take into account where he would throw his opponent, the possible time frame it would take to reach him, or the fact that he would be leaving his lower body exposed if he didn't properly secure his enemy like anyone with common sense should do if he wishes to secure his ground assault.
There's also the possibility that somebody of inferior size could just hit the guy back. He's not invincible and the confidence he gained can be misplaced in his ability to actually fight, leading him to making very silly mistakes. That's Dunning-Kruger in full blast. But you're intentionally focusing on one possibility while ignoring every other factor, which is selective reasoning.
Like, you've probably haven't seen many fights or even been in that many for that manner, but think you can give an accurate assessment as to what will happen. Regardless, you lack the imaginative thinking to consider multiple possibilities. You're like those guys that watches sports and offers commentary on what one should do without any knowledge on the practicality on what you're saying.
Yeah know what they say, the bigger they are, the harder they fall. That does have some truth to it. Most people like this muscle bound idiot spends too much time just trying to make his muscles big that he doesn't worry about flexibility or speed. So, most of the time these muscle heads are far too slow compared to a smaller person that they can never catch anyone to be able to squash them. Look at anyone whom knows how to really fight, like Bruce Lee, they are much smaller, and they can kick the shot out of anyone. Notice how you NEVER see someone this jacked up competing in MMA, boxing, and really anything else where fighting is involved? Because they are too slow.
If your plan is to run away, sure. If your plan is to try and outswing a guy like this because of "muh speed", please understand street fighting usually ends up on the ground where weight and strength both matter greatly with pinning. some of you guys have watched way too many movies and not enough actual fights/fight training. Because most hand to hand instructors will tell you to fucking walk away from the fight all together if the guy has 100 lbs of muscle on you. Naruto wont save you.
Yall are both retarded. It's true that the average Joe in a public setting doesn't know a thing about fighting. So in most cases it's the first Haymaker to the face that wins, unless you're built like a brick shithouse like this dude. In which case muscle density will help you resist attacks better. But at the same time, you don't don't exactly have to be Bruce Lee the take this guy down. There are martial arts that teach you how to beat bigger opponents using leverage and the momentum of their attacks to throw them off balance.
You two are arguing about speed vs strength but completely ignoring countless variables. This is the same as someone arguing about which weapon is better or which martial art is better. It depends on the specific people fighting. If you have a fedora wearing white Knight in a trench coat wielding a katana and a weapons expert with a butterfly knife, the higher skill will win. Same with speed vs strength. Does the speed guy know any tricks to take down a big guy? If not then he's probably gonna get destroyed.
That's not how durability works. Density doesn't add any immunity to pain. There's still nerve endings underneath those muscles. It takes practice and will power to build pain resistance.
I wasnt talking about pain resistance. I meant hitting a wall of muscle isn't going to do anything significant.
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pain resistance. Your ability to feel doesn't diminish with increased muscle mass.
Resisting pain has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. The point of landing a blow should be to deal damage to bone or organs. Punching someone in the gut will be much less effective if their stomach is protected by a abs you could grind meat on.
There's nerves in skin and muscles. Hence, you can feel if something touches them. Increased muscle mass doesn't equate to pain resistance. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Again, I've said nothing about pain resistance. I'm perfectly aware that people with muscle still have nerves in there skin. You're the one stuck on the whole pain thing. I'm talking about breaking bones and bruising or rupturing organs. The point of hitting someone in a real fight isn't to inflict as much pain as you can. It's to make them incapable of fighting. You do this by breaking arms, legs, and ribs. By causing internal bleeding of their vital organs, or by knocking them unconscious or killing them.
Muscle density can help protect your organs from damage where you have no bones, ie the stomach region. Dense muscle mass on your arms can help protect the bonds from damage from impact such as a punch or a kick. That doesn't mean they don't feel it, but that's not the point. The point is that with more muscle mass comes an extra layer of protection that will greatly aid you in a fist fight.
You're still describing pain resistance. One reason people lose fights is due to the accumulation of pain, and every example you gave results in a usually intolerable amount of pain. Additionally, you're ignoring the very common method of being beaten into submission. Everyone has a pain threshold before their body's shut down. The shock of the pain is enough to immobilize anyway without causing internal damage.
Furthermore, taking hits is a form of anaerobic exercise. It is impossible to take damage without using energy. It's entirely possible to defeat someone by accumulating enough damage to the muscles. The notion that muscles in and of themselves add defense to damage goes against basic physiology. Muscles grow through continual damage and recovering during a resting period. This is accumulated by continual contractions. Impact automatically contracts muscles so they don't rip like paper.
This is the same kind of reasoning that disillusions people into believing that size equates to durability and strength. Simply put, life isn't as clear cut as that, and a lot pain can be avoided if people look past the surface.
Inb4 "But pain..."
Dude, I don't know how much clearer I can make it. I'm well aware of how pain works. And the things I'm describing cause pain, yes, but I'm talking about causing actual damage to the human body. Muscle makes it hard to effectively damage the bones and organs underneath. If you see a video of a little guy punching a huge muscular guy, the blows do nothing. They bounce right off and the big guy keeps coming. NOT SAYING HE DOESN'T FEEL IT! That's an entirely different subject that you are trying to discuss and it has nothing to do with what I'm saying.
You are correct, pain thresholds will often cause someone to give up long before their bodies are too broken to fight, much how you constantly trying to turn this into a completely different discussion is causing me to write this paragraph.
But for the umpteen millionth time, that's not what I was talking about. I'm talking about the benefits of muscle in protecting the body from physical harm, not the deadening of nerves or how to ignore pain signals. Jesus fucking Christ.
help protect the bones*
As a martial artist, I can tell you right now that the whole 'leverage of a bigger opponent' thing has diminishing returns. Once they're so much bigger than you are, there's jack shit you can do to them. You won't be doing any flips or slams or throws. You're going to wonder why they're not going anywhere except apeshit on the back of your head.
>Implying being bigger means they can take hits better
I would have figured a martial artists would have known better than to generalize like that.
lol uses Bruce Lee as a fucking example. The man had a legendary training regimen that he followed for decades. You're not going to run into someone with half the convictions of that man randomly in a store.
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