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Kyle Chapman was arrested again.

ANTIFA HAD ZERO CHANCE IN BERKELEY TODAY

The best sign

"No wonder they wear masks. " - Gavin McInnes

PATRIOT in Berkeley beat up by ANTIFA thugs. Terrorists!

Giving Antifa wedgies, just like high school

Kekistani flag being flown at Berkeley

Just a photo of Berkeley Police doing what they do best...
Pathetic

Ethnic Kekistani

tl;dw:Trumpers Routing and Beating Antifa.
Yes, that sound is Antifa is throwing M80's
I dont usually bother downloading the youtube vids,
but they put the age restriction on this one.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8GVtXfATtI

tl;dw: Based Stickman imparting wisdom

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#9 - MuahahaOfLore [OP]

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stickied by MuahahaOfLore

If no autoplay hit play.

#307 to #9 - thegreenbutton

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#36 to #9 - leonhardt

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Like a ******* freight train

#14 to #9 - MuahahaOfLore [OP]

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Girl getting punched has porn
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#233 to #14 - thehappylad

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talk about a proper fisting

#217 to #14 - murpmurp

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ill keep this in mind

#459 to #9 - tanditsky

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So it's okay to punch women in the face if theyre liberal, cool

#461 to #459 - ellienyte

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What happened to equal rights, equal fights? If you get in someone's face, they'll get in yours, especially when you come at them masked and they don't have time to assume your gender.

#462 to #461 - tanditsky

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It's not a fight to just smack someone in the face out of nowhere
You shouldn't do that to men or women, he's completely out of line

#463 to #462 - ellienyte

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What about a person who grabs you and attempts to drag you to the ground? The intent is there, a desire to 'take scalps' talk about cultural appropriation I believe, not that they could have known that.

#464 to #463 - tanditsky

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Where have you got the idea she grabbed him and tried to drag him to the ground?

#465 to #464 - ellienyte

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Her hand at his neck is a start.

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#466 to #465 - tanditsky

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You wouldn't put your hand up if someone twice your size lunched at you?

#468 to #466 - ellienyte

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I'd be impressed is someone twice my size launched at anything, but I wouldn't be grabbing for clothing. But then I wouldn't be going to a protest with a clear intent to cause injury, and you get what you give.

#469 to #468 - tanditsky

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She is clearly not the one in the wrong here, i feel like you guys are just seeing what you want to
They don't touch until this point in the video, at which point i think you can agree she was just bracing herself, not trying to drag him to the ground.
There is no way a punch like that is in self defence

#179 to #9 - krizz

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that hitler jugend is cool

#403 to #9 - anon id: d6e8dae9

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Just look at all that equality

#265 to #9 - satoasami

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That protestor looks a lot like Tommy End

#73 to #9 - mikethemerciless

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Don't stand in the way of a train

#122 to #9 - ruffbuffboybutts

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when the real world hits you

#54 to #9 - inocentz

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This is all I could think of when I saw that part of the video.

#221 to #9 - smartalac

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*freeze frame record scratch*
Yup.
Thats me.
I bet your wondering now I got here.
It all started with the patriarchy.

#264 to #9 - guardsmen

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**guardsmen used "*roll picture*"**
**guardsmen rolled image**Holy **** Yankies are fun to watch !!!!!!!!

#10 to #9 - chuchiereaper

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I can already hear the record scratch and her saying, **** I wish my gender was a girl so he can't hit me

#16 to #10 - dyingalone

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That is a girl

#17 to #16 - chuchiereaper

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did you just assume xer's gender?

#18 to #17 - dyingalone

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Yeah

#385 to #18 - imthenewguy

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Off to the cultural enrichment center with you

#203 to #9 - comexx

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#52 to #9 - bezza

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You know she has done porn right?

#57 to #52 - toosexyforyou

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I was trying to find it, can you link me?

#58 to #57 - bezza

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no, you ******* degenerate.

#60 to #58 - toosexyforyou

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Nvm I regret going to it. Turns out that my fetish for *********** annoying cunts doesn't overcum my disgust for women with hairy pits and vaginas.

#59 to #58 - toosexyforyou

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Nvm my boi muahahaoflore's got the goods right below

#408 to #9 - bloodmagic

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Hey guys, im on your side, but this doesn't look like self defense? Can someone give some context because it just looks like this guy is randomly running up and hitting her.

#425 to #408 - zomaru

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Grabbed his collar in attempt to throw him to the ground, go his/her ass sacked. Seems fair to me.

#430 to #425 - bloodmagic

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He was already coming at her though

#431 to #430 - zomaru

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Are you trying to say she is innocent?

#443 to #431 - bloodmagic

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Im trying to say I see no evidence for her being guilty or stickman being innocent in this video.

#444 to #443 - zomaru

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That isn't stick-man, that is some other based freedom fighter. And she approached them clearly with the body language she intended to start ****, no to mention posts she put on Facebook saying she was going there with the intention to fight people. She provoked them, then when push came to shove she couldn't defend herself. Being a female is no reason that she doesn't need to face the retribution for her own actions

#445 to #444 - bloodmagic

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This video shows no evidence for anything you just said.

#448 to #445 - zomaru

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She is wearing all black and a bandanna to cover her face, clearly a member of the fascist party Anti-fas, grabbing a collar of someone with the intent to throw him to the ground, he saw it coming, and punched her the **** out for it.

#473 to #448 - bloodmagic

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He is coming at her with an intent to hit her. She grabs his collar after he is coming at her. Im sorry but this video simply shows self defense on her part

#72 to #9 - buddywuggle

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#132 to #9 - axmann

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beating her bush up with the mantachi.

#47 to #9 - infurnus

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This is unbelievably satisfying to watch.

#297 to #9 - nigerotte

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only after seeing the whole video did I realise that was a girl

#363 to #9 - anon id: de30ef06

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I litererally cannot stopp masturbating to this. i am typeing with one hand because of my inability to not masturbate to this.

#228 to #9 - anon id: d2f03cb0

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Why spend your time whinging about how violent anti-fa are if you're just going to celebrate a woman getting smacked in the face?

#275 to #228 - darthblam

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Because equality?
Women aren't above violent consequences for violent actions.

#155 to #9 - nevruc

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PLEASE someone make a ONE PUUUUUUUUUNCH edit of this someone

#344 to #155 - canyou

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Not mine

#345 to #344 - nevruc

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thanks my dude i really needed that

#118 to #9 - anon id: 1f8e358a

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What a ******* cowardly pork, regardless of what the girl said on tweeter she didnt deserve to get sucker punched unprovoked this is why ANTIFA will still fight on.

#130 to #118 - anon id: 0cf4d557

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can i point your attention to the bigger brawl with jesus kciking someone, **** was already on,sucker punch ha, she had enugh time to grab his collar she had enough time to raise her arms.

#75 to #9 - zekain

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Can you make it faster?

#62 to #9 - drastronomy

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Apparently she used to be a pornstar
******* degenerate

And she was completely normal before college. ******* brainwashing piece of **** liberal-infested universities. So glad i don't live in the US

#90 to #62 - garaichu

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Goddamnit, she was really cute too.

Emphasis WAS.

#98 to #90 - drastronomy

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Yeah. A solid 8. Then look what American college did to her.

takk gud for at NTNU ikke er slik

#101 to #98 - garaichu

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It's not even sad, it's infuriating.

Har fortsatt til gode å se noe særlig jævlig her i Norge, men så skal det sies at jeg ikke følger veldig godt med :V

#273 to #62 - dummerbaztard

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How does her being a pornstar make her a degenerate?

#357 to #273 - anon id: 3c68cf75

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It's specifically super hairy porn.

#455 to #357 - dummerbaztard

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Ew, well that is disgusting

#274 to #273 - anon id: 26a14ec2

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anything involving whore related activities and sluttypractices is degenerate work

#279 to #274 - dummerbaztard

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Oh, well good thing you stand above everyone else and decided for all of us what's morally acceptable and what's not, I really was in a mental conflict.

#335 to #279 - lathyrusvii

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You, uh. You ever wonder about morals, and stuff?

#454 to #335 - dummerbaztard

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Yeah, a lot.
But somehow I missed how doing porn makes you a bad person.

#456 to #454 - lathyrusvii

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Usually it's the money-for-sex thing. Secondarily, it's the culture associated thereof.

I'm supposing that amateur doesn't fall under this generalization, but "pornstar" sort of discludes that exception.

The business is seedy.

#12 - sgtmajjohnson

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We never deserved Based Stickman, but I'm glad we have him.

#269 to #12 - anon id: ea9c734e

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He's the hero America deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

#366 to #269 - anon id: 9374104a

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That quote ******* sucks. If anything it should be "we don't deserve him but he's what we need." **** off.

#396 to #366 - anon id: ad9c5a18

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The Dark Knight?

#422 to #12 - cerig

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Someone needs to figure out a way to give him a better shield. One thats lightweight, big, and can take a charging antifa like its nothing.

#139 to #12 - boarderlinegreat

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#138 to #12 - boarderlinegreat

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#140 to #12 - boarderlinegreat

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#48 to #12 - tenbatsu

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#99 to #12 - imdragonmyfeet

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#119 to #99 - anon id: 1f8e358a

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Its all fun and games untill the left gets one of those

#129 to #119 - bloodrider

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The only notable people from the left are Carl the Cuck and Aids Skrillex. Plus with how their usual attire makes them all look the same, I doubt they will.

#212 to #129 - anon id: 465a723e

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don't forget aids bjorn

#133 to #119 - anon id: 5cc0878e

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They already have their ´tard version.

We have nothing to fear but boredom itself.

#286 to #133 - philxxmlghaxnippon

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"We have nothing to fear but boredom itself", this should be made into a banner...

#313 to #119 - anon id: 7883e76e

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Ours will best whatever pathetic excuse for a fighter they throw at him

#83 to #12 - PFCMadness

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#84 to #83 - PFCMadness

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the invader is still there

#104 - grimfuck

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This image has historic potential

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#346 to #104 - mondprinzessin

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one day it will be a museum, and that guy's goPro will have one of those mini theater things
id watch that

#428 to #104 - thedungeonmaster

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The Battle Of Berkeley

#209 to #104 - frankwest

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Hey that Jolly Ruder dude is they guy who jump kicked the pepper spray faggot at 2:03 in the first vid. A true damn hero

#230 to #104 - lumpwump

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Its like something from a movie. Like a well meaning parody. I like it

#5 - iceguy

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Look at this man, he jump kicked an Antifag (2:03 in the first vid) who was pepper spraying people while holding an American flag in his hands

god bless this man

#51 to #5 - tenbatsu

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#19 - mortuz

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My favorite.

#22 to #19 - trollishiconoclast

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Gold!

#82 to #19 - supercookieduster

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****** nice m8

#11 - diobrandolover

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These people bitch about the violence when they are the one who called for the punching of nazi's

#13 to #11 - lordlolland

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The jew (or in this case antifa) cries out in pain as he strikes you

#7 - MuahahaOfLore [OP]

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#34 - anotheritalianguy

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Finally I see some antifa beat it at their own game.

Also, I still don't have any idea of when or how they think that Trump supporters are fascists, or even the same President Trump is fascist. Anyone kind enough to explain to me?

#249 to #34 - killertrout

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**killertrout used "*roll picture*"**
**killertrout rolled image**God just look it up, why bother asking people on a ******* website like this?

All of the responses are biased and talking about liberals and conservatives like facism is some sort of political ideology when it's more of a governing philosophy.

Based on fasces, the roman symbol of unity, it's historically a counter-movement to liberal/socialist/progressive ideology.

Your ******* username makes this ironic because Italy had one of the more historically significant and popularly known facist history under Mussolini.

#258 to #249 - anotheritalianguy

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Yes, thank you for remind me of the history of my own country.
Now I repeat in case you didn't get: "Why and How some rational human being can compare the italian blackshirt of Mussolini with the Trump supporters?

#261 to #258 - killertrout

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**killertrout used "*roll picture*"**
**killertrout rolled image**Is it really hard to understand? Liberals consider Trump and his backers as a retaliation to the liberal presence in the white house for the past 8 years and what would be considered a lukewarm/out-of-touch conservative party that looked weak and embarrassing for the past 20 years.

You probably understand facism much better than anyone else, so I'm flabbergasted why you can't see that.

#268 to #261 - anotheritalianguy

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Yes, we Italians know very well what fascism looks like, is the american policies that is a mistery for the most of us. That is why I asked about.

#277 to #268 - killertrout

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Well, I explained how it arises as best I could. The political movement that gave Trump the presidency was both a response to a liberal and progressive coalition that the conservative party (the Republican party) seemed to fail to address or answer. Trump was a charismatic individual who appeared as an alternative to the progressive machine and the ineffective Republican party. The focus on national identity and the need for Americans to rethink their priorities (and prioritize 'America First') can also be considered proto-facist.

Now, don't get me wrong, I don't think Trump and his supporters are necessarily facist or that their political stances are reprehensible or bad or undemocratic.

But there is some similarity in ideology and priority, and this is why some sensationalists use the term facist.

Just like how Obama was called socialist for some of his progressive stances and ideological similarities, even if he didn't send people to gulags or set up death panels.

#282 to #277 - anotheritalianguy

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That sounds fair enough, thank you for your time.

#290 to #282 - killertrout

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Thanks for the patience.

#263 to #261 - xexion

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You're asking someone to make perfect, easy sense of something that inherently doesn't make any sense.

#271 to #263 - killertrout

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When you use the words "Inherently doesn't make any sense" and then don't follow it up with logic, it's pretty disheartening for me. I'm worried that you haven't, and will not take anything of what I say seriously or with any benefit of doubt.

The pre-WW2 Italy and present-day America are very different theaters, but what people see is common is this retaliation towards Liberal/Progressive Policy and mockery of weak Conservatives/corruption. The push for a more charismatic/dynamic leader echoes facism, and so hence that is why vocal, confrontational and unapologetic trump supporters are identified as such.

To what extent and how it is reflected in society is not the same, certainly, but there is a connection that some people can make. Is it fair to call all Trump supporters facists? Obviously not. Is it fair to call Trump a facist? No. But similarities are there for more sensationalist people to throw that insult around.

Just like how people call Anti-fia terrorists when they're just annoying-ass snowflakes.

#278 to #271 - xexion

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I didn't need to follow it up since the point had already been made/implied, and you've just reiterated the point - it doesn't make sense to call Trump and his supporters fascists if they aren't fascists.
And antifa would be terrorists if they had any balls (as if going out in a crowd, faces covered, all in black to beat people you don't agree with up isn't terrorism). "By any means" leaves terrorism open. And when a small anti-government population with little amount of funding/supplies wants to go toe-to-toe with the government, terrorism is usually the means.

#288 to #278 - killertrout

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**killertrout used "*roll picture*"**
**killertrout rolled image**I see your point, but let me try and salvage my side: For someone who is politically adverse to Trump, a facist is an understandable insult or characterization.

Most centrists or conservatives would not call Trump a facist, even with the small similarities.

It's similar to people who would call Obama a socialist - it's understandable if you're conservative, but a liberal wouldn't see it the same way. Political lens changes things a bit and it's good to remember how other parties and commentators see things.

Now Antifa being compared to Terrorists are a similar trend but a dumber one. When we think terrorist we do not immediately think of restriction of speech, we think more religiously-motivated crimes. Using a definition in a dictionary is technically ok, when the definition is the commonly believed or understood meaning by the rest of society... Then it's close to disingenuous.

Call antifa facists, political strong-men, anarchists, assailants and political goons, but try not to call them terrorists... it's a charged word that isn't as accurate as others.

#353 to #288 - xexion

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>For someone who is politically adverse to Trump, a facist is an understandable insult or characterization.
How is this understandable? It's like calling Sanders a communist...and meaning it. Both are acceptable in the realms of jokes or satire or exaggeration, but neither are actually those things.
>It's similar to people who would call Obama a socialist
Except that you could call him a socialist, and have some points backing you up - many of his flagship programs are within the realm of socialism.

>Now Antifa being compared to Terrorists are a similar trend but a dumber one.
The problem with Antifa being terrorists is several fold:
1. Although we've come to associate terrorism with radicalized Islam, it's because all the current groups using terrorist tactics are Islamic. It's not that radicalized Islam is now the definition of terrorism, it's that terrorism is now the definition of radicalized Islam (if IS becomes big enough to drop their current tactics and form an army, we'll still call them terrorists).
The second we have a non-religious group making headlines with terrorism, is the second we 'remember' that terrorism isn't only Jihadists.
2. We still have federal legal definitions of terrorism:
Under federal law, the term "terrorism" refers to any violent or dangerous crimes that "appear to be intended" to either (1) intimidate or coerce a civilian population, (2) influence government policy by intimidation or coercion, or (3) affect government conduct by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping.
Points (1) and (2) might as well be the very definition of Antifa's actions and ethics.
3. Antifa are made of a bunch of idiots who don't know why anarchy/communism don't work, nor what a fascist is, nor have the balls nor strength of arm to instill terror. By points 1 and 2 there should be no argument that these guys are terrorists...except they fail the most basic definition of terrorist - someone who instills terror. They're a bunch of limp-dicked morons that are seen as, an inconvenience, morons, hipsters, goons, troublemakers, people that need to be punched in the face, etc. before they're seen as being scary.
I mean ****, we've got a group that:
>Wants to remove the President and his supporters by any means necessary including violence
>Dresses up all in black, faces covered, armed to start riots and harm anyone they don't agree with
>Have already clashed with police, other protestors and sent many people to the hospital.
These guys should be text-book lunatics and fear mongers, but they aren't.

#500 to #353 - killertrout

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**killertrout rolled image**Sorry for the late late late response:

I find it funny that you consider calling Obama a socialist is ok but calling Bernie a communist is unreasonable.

None of them are right or realistic, just cherry-picking and freaking out over very particular instances.

That's why it's understandable, but I would never call it rational or correct.

And no, Obama's healthcare stance is not the be-all-end all explanation of his stance on the political spectrum, especially since the law itself was shaped by Congress in many various ways. Now if he got a single-payer system through, then maybe the shoe would fit better.

I'm not going to get into Antifa, but your point is important. I would rather call them lawbreakers since they're clearly infringing on other people's right to free speech. Like you said, they aren't terrorists because literally nobody is taking them seriously and nobody WILL take them seriously. They're just people who think they can bang - a stupid fad like the hippies. Hopefully people will treat them as such and not immediately think that they're jihadists that need to be gunned down, that's all - a lot of ******* are getting war boners off of meddling with Antifa's actions and a divide can be further wedged between moderates.

#503 to #500 - xexion

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>I find it funny that you consider calling Obama a socialist is ok but calling Bernie a communist is unreasonable.
Obama has made some socialist policies, therefore one could possibly find him to be a socialist. Bernie has not advocated for any Communist policies, therefore calling him a communist wouldn't be correct.

>None of them are right or realistic, just cherry-picking and freaking out over very particular instances.
There's just a difference between calling a socialist a commie because you don't like socialism, and calling someone who initiates socialist policies a socialist. Neither is correct but one has an understandable start point.

>That's why it's understandable, but I would never call it rational or correct.
Pretty much.

>I'm not going to get into Antifa, but your point is important. I would rather call them lawbreakers since they're clearly infringing on other people's right to free speech. Like you said, they aren't terrorists because literally nobody is taking them seriously and nobody WILL take them seriously. They're just people who think they can bang - a stupid fad like the hippies. Hopefully people will treat them as such and not immediately think that they're jihadists that need to be gunned down, that's all - a lot of ******* are getting war boners off of meddling with Antifa's actions and a divide can be further wedged between moderates.
I'm not an advocate of underestimating a violent group in a uniform. The police needed to step in a long time ago during these counterprotests of theirs.

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**killertrout rolled image**I'm gonna try and roll one more time.

Unfortunately, the crux of the socialist/communist problem is not much different from calling Antifa terrorists. Most people think Socialism is just a synonym of communism and immediately think Castro or Stalin or what-not, just like how someone immediately assumes terrorism is a religious action. Looking at some key political policies that Obama interacted without realizing the other, more neutral policies and events under his adminstration wrongfully paints him as a solid socialist when he only had some choice progressive policies that weren't even what he had originally hoped to pass once Congress was through with the bills. Practically, I'm against acknowledging Obama as a socialist because often people don't read or think after that word - there is much more to his administration than just "he passed a healthcare bill and established a lot of regulations".

I'm not advocating underestimation or letting the police just dick around, I'm stressing the fact that they should be handled as lawbreakers and not made out to be the next generation of Unibombers or coup-de'tat plotters. These crybabies on the West Coast are a very big minority that is already going the way of the dinosaur, much like the card-burning hippies. People shouldn't be gearing up to fight with the unrealistic expectations, that's all.

#505 to #504 - xexion

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I don't disagree with what you said about Obama, I'm simply stating that if he puts forward policies that are "socialist" (benefits given from the state to all people that aren't earned) there is some point to calling him a socialist, even if you're wrong in the end.

On a tangent, socialism and communism are extremely similar - did a lot of research for another discussion and came to the conclusion that communism is to socialism as democracies are to republics. Both of the former options are decent ideas but when the population exceeds being 'small' they don't work. Socialism uses the government as the means to determine what 'the people' need, and republics use representatives to determine what the entirety of the public are saying. It's kind of backwards in the case of socialism/communism, because socialism is supposed to be a step towards communism, but I think it works.

#501 to #500 - killertrout

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I really ******* suck at these rolls.

#502 to #501 - xexion

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Holy ******* **** you really do.

#499 to #353 - anon id: ea9c734e

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"Terrorism" is in the intent, not the results. A bad, failure of a terrorist who fails to actually inflict terror is still a terrorist.

#289 to #288 - killertrout

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That was a poor roll.

#404 to #34 - thebigbadbeest

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they don't really think all trump supporters are fascists but its a fact that a lot of fascists supports trump. Also, there were large groups of actual fascists and white supremacists at that rally.

#131 to #34 - spikefish

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In the English-speaking world, the word "facist" is most commonly used as an insult for someone who is perceived as wanting control. This use is more common than it's original meaning, referring to the political movement in Italy and related movements elsewhere. Most commonly it is used by the left against the right, but it is offen used by the right to describe the left, and to describe Islam. Basically it is used by anybody against anybody who wants them to do something they don't want to do. If a teacher tell students to quit talking during class, the students might call the teacher a fascist.

#37 to #34 - leonhardt

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(04/16/2017) [-]

Liberals are literal retards.

#35 to #34 - woodoo

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well it's pretty simple, they have gone to university, where they were told that fascists are bad meanie pants. They don't like trump or anyone who supports him, so those people are bad meanie pants. Obviously, not adhering to the leftist university mindset means you want to oppress the people who do, which means that you are a bad meanie pants, and must have your political opinion beaten out of you, because you are a bad meanie pants, which means that you are a fascist.
Seriously, i make fun, but this is pretty much the truth.

#41 to #34 - anon id: 31f94c73

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Antifa are a bunch of cosplayers acting out their fantasy. They are in reality just a bunch of soft college students with their liberal arts and womens studies degrees.

They are not fighters, they're cowards who suckerpunch or mob people. When confronted with real opposition this is what happens and will happen every time.

#1 - chuchiereaper

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(04/16/2017) [-]

All antifa and commies need to get a free helicopter ride.

#81 to #1 - supercookieduster

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(04/16/2017) [-]

they sell shirts with that on it, think im gonna have to pick one up

#88 to #81 - chuchiereaper

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drop that link man, I want one now.

#89 to #88 - supercookieduster

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www.etsy.com/listing/503382386/pinochets-helico...

on ebay too, if thats your thing

#23 to #1 - swagbot

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Throwing some medium-intensity punches at misguided, malnourished, estrogentic Che Guevara wannabees is fun and all....

But by the end of this, if

... the Federal Reserve still isn't gone...

... we don't have tighter communities and better systems for community involvement and administration...

... the Deep State (CIA, SAPs, deep military departments) still has an unlimited budget and no public awareness of it....

... the Alphabet Soup agencies still have free reign of the country...

... people are still pouring their lives into consumer society and pointless distractions en-masse...

All of this will be for nothing.

#24 to #23 - chuchiereaper

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(04/16/2017) [-]

We hang those guys, not throw them off a helicopter. Come on, do you even history?

#25 to #24 - swagbot

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Since society is made up of people, the character of the Society-as-a-whole will reflect the the character of the people within it.

The cancer is within us, bro.

... much more so within these degenerate Antifa fags, but within us all to a degree.

Using Force to 'clean up a society' will accomplish nothing unless a better system is not swiftly established to replace that dying society.

... And that "Better System" must be built upon a foundation of QUALITY HUMANS.

That's my point.

#26 to #25 - chuchiereaper

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Guess we're gassing you too

#27 to #26 - swagbot

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Re-read my comment.

#29 to #27 - chuchiereaper

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I hope you're realizing i'm taking the piss out of you man. I know what you mean and I see the problem. But things aren't gonna get better for a long time. We need a better education system, a better family structure and to get rid of hollywood and tv shows and the MSM to get things better.

#30 to #29 - swagbot

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Focused on the wrong things.

"Better education system."
"Better family structure."
"Get rid of Hollywood and MSM."

It's deeper than that.

What made education get taken over by an idiotic government?
What made "family structure" fall apart?
What makes ********** like Hollywood and the MSM exist?

We need....

> Excellent nutrition asap. Better nutrition = better DNA expression & development = more robust humans with stronger, stabler minds. Plenty of excellent science to back this up.
> Promotion of better values - peace, productivity, quality fun, productive & deep hobbies. Unhealthy people want instant gratification, which spawns an entire industry of trash diversions... trashy pass-times, trashy pop-culture, porn, news addiction, distraction with trashy food, alcohol, etc.
> Mental & "Spiritual" fortitude - an ability to understand and internalize the full extent and breadth of evil in this world without shutting down or becoming warped by it., -AND- to begin taking charge to change it.

Everything else is derivative.

#28 to #27 - chuchiereaper

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(04/16/2017) [-]

re-read mine

#39 to #23 - leonhardt

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You forgot about The Wall

#40 to #39 - swagbot

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I didn't.

"... we don't have tighter communities and better systems for community involvement and administration... "

This includes deciding, in ALL communities, questions like 1) who do we let in, 2) how do we determine 'identity' for entry to / participation with that community, 3) how to we define and secure our borders?

"The Wall" is a good idea from a 30,000-foot view..... but attention to much finer details (like those i list above) is required for a superior, lasting solution.

And, of course, none of this matters until the U.S. separates into communities of like-minded people.

#3 - saltysloth

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What really matters.

#229 to #3 - anon id: 7d706314

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they seem so cringy almost as much as the fat 'female'

#270 to #229 - xexion

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>In shape
>Gender not ambiguous
>Not afraid to show their faces
>Not afraid to wear their own styles of clothing
I'm ignoring the freshman on the left

These are a bunch of men equipping themselves with what they've got on hand, not a bunch of hipster libtards wearing skintight black hoodies with bandanas covering their face.

#342 to #3 - hamshef

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