Faggot tries shooting cripple, gets BTFO by citizens

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#1 - iliketurtles

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(08/11/2017) [+] (14 replies)

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It would be very ironic if the shooter miraculously survives and ends up crippled.

#38 to #1 - sanguinemybrother

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(08/12/2017) [-]

No, it would be coincidental, learn English, Christ.

#110 to #38 - casuall

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"a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result."
No that's flat out irony. The man who attacks the cripple becomes himself crippled.

A coincidence would be something like the shooter attacking that guy, but as it turns out the other guy was about to go on a shooting spree himself, two shooters coincidentally at the same place (although that would probably fall under irony just as easily).

#143 to #38 - shironomia

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Funny how you're from UK and a random dude from Spain speaks better English than you.
What does it feel like to be useless at existing?

#43 to #1 - satoasami

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#150 to #43 - thickpeepee [OP]

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Sato *********** on MY content?

I'm almost honored. Though I'd be more honored if it was a Ramsay post.

#119 to #1 - anon id: 982d43d3

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nah, he ded

but it would be quite ironic, indeed

#49 to #1 - policexplain

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He didn't survive, though.

#149 to #49 - thickpeepee [OP]

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Even better.

#13 to #1 - tvdj

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And now your making me hope he got shot in the spine and became crippled. You even made me laugh because that would be justice enough for hurting someone who didn't do **** to him. He doesn't have to die to learn how much of an ass he made himself to be. But im fine with either outcome.

#8 to #1 - kotiddyzers

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imagine if he slipped and shot himself in the leg lol

#19 to #1 - nyuORlucy

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and the shooter's bullet pushes the bullet that crippled the man in the first place out of his body giving him back the ability to walk

#142 to #19 - anon id: ae67c369

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wasnt there a movie/book where that happened?

#2 to #1 - thickpeepee [OP]

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It would be a miracle if he survived and got to receive that punishment.

#3 to #2 - kingderps

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It would be miracle if the shooter survived with only minor injuries and his bones were harvested to give to the cripple guy so he can walk.

#4 - loganmadder

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(08/11/2017) [+] (1 reply)

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That guy who gave him his cructches is great

#6 to #4 - thickpeepee [OP]

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He took a second to try and help the guy run, putting himself at a risk in his attempt.

Even though what little time he gave him wasn't enough, the act itself proves his worth as a human.

Good man.

#5 - anon id: 2cb4a3df

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#25 - philxxmlghaxnippon

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The story behind this is far less uplifting, if what a FJ'er said is true.
Not sure if true:
>Dude with cruches was apparently selling drugs and got beat up for it.
>Dude with the rifle is the father of a kid that died from a bad trip.
>Kid bought drugs from the guy with crutches.

#50 to #25 - policexplain

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(08/12/2017) [-]

The truth is even less uplifting, it was a fight over parking spaces. >>#45,

#27 to #25 - thickpeepee [OP]

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(08/11/2017) [-]

It's possible that's true. But my source said he was a terrorist just there to kill.

But really either could be true until we get sauce.

#42 to #27 - anon id: 147c4b7f

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tbh he does look like he has some kind of AKS, which wouldnt be normal for a random citizen. BUT the way he targeted the cripple instead of the crowd running away also discourages the idea of terrorism

#36 - stinkyjim

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The gunman had his store robbed by the guy in crutches. The guy in crutches was selling drugs to kids, and told the kids to rob the guy with the gun.

#37 to #36 - jinjenkins

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#45 to #36 - policexplain

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No, it was two groups of people fighting over parking spaces in Istanbul, actually.
www.hurriyet.com.tr/video/pendik-te-s...

#46 to #45 - jinjenkins

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who tf pulls an automnatic weapon and goes on a rampage over parking spots?!
ffs i swear that culture was not meant to last but somehow did

#48 to #46 - policexplain

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I don't know if you can blame culture as a whole for the actions of a few wingnuts. I mean, pretty much everywhere has it's fair share of maniacs. Even countries known for lack of violent crimes have some very bad offenders. Take the 2011 attack in Oslo, or the Sagamihara stabbings in Japan, for example.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_att...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagamihara_stab...

#137 to #46 - thelastamerican

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I don't wanna be that guy, but I'm gonna be that guy. That's not an automatic weapon.

#139 to #46 - anon id: 78872471

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First the parking spot then your mother.

#151 to #139 - jinjenkins

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> flag
sure thing papa roach

#33 - anon id: bf93de98

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#53 to #33 - frostedfreeze

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#62 to #33 - krasnogvardiech

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#147 to #33 - thickpeepee [OP]

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#40 to #39 - Happytreefriend

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#47 - policexplain

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After a quick search, I can confirm that there is no truth to it being about drug dealing. Apparently, this happened 12 Jan 2015 in Istanbul, and was the end result of an ongoing altercation between employees of a car rental company and construction workers over parking spaces. Two people died, the shooter in the video was one of them.

www.hurriyet.com.tr/video/pendik-te-s...

#55 to #47 - zekain

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So animals behaving like aninals what else is new?

#116 to #55 - policexplain

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No. They're human beings, just like you and me, and they're acting with malevolence.

#121 to #116 - cabbagemayhem

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No offense, but what kind of human being shoots a cripple for taking his parking place?

#123 to #121 - policexplain

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No offense taken, brother. What kind of human being locks women and children into a gas chamber? What kind of human being oversees a gulag? What kind of human being shoots up an elementary school?
The sad fact is that we are all human and we are all capable of horrible, reprehensible evil. I wish they weren't human, I wish I didn't have to share ancestors, cultures, biology or anything else with them. I wish they were demons, monsters, animals or anything other than what I am. But the truth isn't so easy.

#146 to #121 - thickpeepee [OP]

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A particularly ****** one.

#124 to #121 - erpi

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No one should be shooting anyone over a parking space and the world is better off with the guy dead, but saying all of them are animals is exactly the same kind of echo chamber mentallity that the guy at google was warning about and just plain racism.

#20 - idunnolol

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Actually I read that the guy with crutches sells drugs to kids and the gunman had a sister who died of overdose.

#21 to #20 - thickpeepee [OP]

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I actually read.

#22 to #21 - idunnolol

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#26 to #21 - nithcraal

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you know there is an easier change. it's called a comma.

Actually, I read.

#28 to #26 - thickpeepee [OP]

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I formatted my sentence like that on purpose.

#29 to #28 - nithcraal

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Ah, so that's what that sound was. the joke flying over my head. :I

#30 to #29 - thickpeepee [OP]

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(08/11/2017) [-]

Or maybe just a reflex after our Grammar Nazi regime was dismantled.

It's okay, I do it, too sometimes. But (((they))) will catch on if you don't learn control.

#51 to #20 - policexplain

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(08/12/2017) [-]

Nope, it was a fight over parking spaces. >>#45

#82 - tardismechanic

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Perhaps the fact us Brits don't need to have a ******* strategy for public shootings tells you a bunch. Yeah, bad **** happens to us too, and I'm sure the Americans will readily point to the London attacks and the fact we don't have guns.

Fine. But you live in a country where every single day it's becoming more and more necessary to own one. The idea that you can be the hero, or that you can give as good as you get passes completely over your head because your entire mentality is "Well if they have them, why can't I?"

When the time comes, you won't pull the trigger. Shooting paper targets and posting on /k/ is a whole different ballgame than killing a person, even wounding them.

Yes, I know I'm going to get a bunch of "I'm a former marine and hurr durr durr" ****, but when the idea of killing somebody becomes so indifferent to you, you should never be allowed near a firearm. Yes, this was self defence, but out and out trying to kill him? What makes you better than he was? Morals? You stomped on his head repeatedly. You did exactly to him as he intended to do to that dude. You became that person in a split second and ruined any right you had to consider yourself above him.

#120 to #82 - anonuseranonuser

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have you ever fired a gun?

I have. hitting a paper target doesnt 'translate' and show that you are holding something that can take someones life. There is no real cause and effect. Hitting hard targets (even if it is watermelon) would 'translate' better.

For someone that has only ever hit paper targets, there no great deal of emotion or overthinking each time the trigger is pulled. It feels the same as using a water gun, or a simple starters pistol. I feel more emotion playing computer games, then I did at the shooting range.

I would have no problem taking aim at someone, good aim as well, and pulling the trigger, HELL I can dump all the bullets in, reload quite quickly, and empty the gun again as that was part of my training.

BUT I know I can only do it once. I know mentally, it will have a toll, and it will haunt me forever.

Part of me is really glad that Australia doesnt have guns everywhere, it lets us live the illusion that we are safe. But truth is, it just means that all the criminals have them, and the cops. The muslims have already shot and killed people, seems wrong that muslims can get firearms and slaughter us, while the law abiding citizens cannot even carry a concealed knife.

Law enforcement in Australia is ridiculous. Someone holds you hostage with a gun? Police will wait 17hours and 2 people have to die before they will do anything.

We are at the stage where we have to defend ourselves, but only allowed to do so using our hands.

#128 to #82 - vortexziscool

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I was with you up till that last part

#141 to #82 - estranged

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You didn't know that in some schools in the US, it's standard practice to teach students how to handle, and use a firearm, whether it is a pistol, rifle, or surface to air missile. We are equipped to deal with ******** like this, and more than prepared to do so.

Saying that 'shooting at paper targets and posting on /k/ is a different ball game'. Honestly, you do NOT know who you're talking to (and no, there will be no 'gorilla warfare here...)

Some of us might actually have already shot a whole ******** of people, and at this point, a ******* like this... is no more than a human shaped paper target.

#135 to #82 - thelastamerican

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No. **** that. Why should the original shooter retain any human rights? They've proven they're subhuman twice already. Once by trying to kill a bunch of strangers, and again by zeroing in on a guy in crutches. How would you rather this video end?

#138 to #82 - boothead

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Our crime rates are at their lowest, and as legal gun ownership rises crime goes even lower.
Have fun in your ****** country though.

#113 to #82 - Glitched

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This didn't happen in America *******.

#114 to #82 - Glitched

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A source since you're retarded.
www.hurriyet.com.tr/video/pendik-te-s...

#86 to #82 - tehnuteater

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Fag lol

#87 to #86 - tardismechanic

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A concise, well thought out and constructive response, as usual.

#102 to #87 - froghole

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Fag lol

#118 to #87 - phyrex

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fag lol

#130 to #87 - luckyduster

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Don't make us throw your tea into a harbor again.

#144 to #87 - thickpeepee [OP]

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fag lol

#104 to #82 - popnotes

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This happened in Istanbul.

#115 to #82 - novabird

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and here we see another complacent eurofag sheep who knows nothing about freedom and what it entails.
makes me glad we succeeded and became americans so we could avoid this ****.

#129 to #82 - kanatana

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You don't reason with a cancer. You eradicate it with every tool at your disposal.

While the rest of the world is undergoing treatment, you Brits are treating your terrorist and criminal problem with the equivalent of herbal healing and crystal magic, and the results are just as promising.

#136 to #129 - anon id: 5ea647d1

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shut the **** up with your cancerphobic **** comments you bigot
cancer have feelings too and every right to live, why can't you be more tolerant?

#133 to #82 - anon id: 5ea647d1

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this kind of cuck mentality is exactly why your police force is a worldwide laughting stock.

#127 to #82 - dajewishmankey

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>killing an attempted murderer is bad

Justin is that you?

#109 to #82 - DaCrazyOne

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Not everyone is a limp dick faggot living in a police state.
Gun > knife
Gun > truck
Gun > gun
And if you're good enough
Gun > bomb

Don't be hating because your freedoms are given to Abdul and his 8 wives and 37 children.

#54 - bigmanblue

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ok there are several things to say here
first, the dude who stops to give the guy his crutches is a good human being
second the guy went and tried to shoot someone going outside the law, it doesnt matter the curcumstances that **** is ******* wrong
third, the guys who shot back were in the right, if there is a person shooting at people, you should stop him
then when hes on the ground with the gun out his hands they run up and kick it away, also good

but thats where it stops being good. they then proceded to kick/stomp-on his head several times while hes already on the ground having been shot and disarmed and when they are done with that they run away
that **** is not ok, that **** is ******* wrong, not as wrong as just shooting a guy, but still ******* wrong, unjustified and uncalled for (he was already out of action)

#145 to #54 - thickpeepee [OP]

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"Unjustified"

lol

#56 to #54 - catkyte

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oh **** off. If someone tried to kill me I wouldn't be standing there pondering what's okay and not okay, this ******* fired a gun at these people intending to kill them, his rights and whats fair doesn't matter anymore.

#60 to #56 - krasnogvardiech

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Know what I think?

It don't matter what I think. Soon as that bullet goes past your head, politics and all that ****?

Goes straight out the window.

#58 to #56 - bigmanblue

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no you **** off
a person is still a person regardless of the wrong **** they do
them doing wrong **** doesn't give you free reign to do wrong **** as well
defend yourself yes, defend others yes, stop them from doing wrong in the first place yes, but dont you ******* dare use their actings as an excuse to do evil yourself
they were in the right to start with they shot the ****** and removed his weapon, but beyond that he wasnt a threat anymore, he was disarmed on the ground and ******* bleeding out from multiple gunshots and they ******* kicked him in the ******* head
that **** is NOT ok

#83 to #58 - culinaryexplain

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Well to be fair, they didn't know if he anymore weapons on him, he very well could have.

#63 to #58 - catkyte

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See that's where my viewpoint differs from yours, I don't think of evil garbage like this retard as human after they've attempted to indiscriminately murder a crowd of people.

#67 to #63 - bigmanblue

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so where do you draw the line
"i dont think of nazi's as human"
"i dont think of facists as human"
you cant just pick and chose who is human and who isnt, who sees real justice and who doesnt, who is deserving of a proper trial and who isnt. its all or none. i choose all

#69 to #67 - catkyte

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It doesn't matter who they are or what they stand for, when they do some evil **** like mass murder of innocent people they just stop being human in my eyes.

#71 to #69 - bigmanblue

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right back to my statement, then where do you draw the line
if you are allowed to say "this man isnt human anymore" are others, and is there any reason their line should be the same as yours
no it goes right back to what i said
either everyone is deserving of justice, decency and a fair trial, or no one is
because if you start drawing lines, so will others, and you dont know where their lines are.
kicking a man in the head when he cant fight back nor defend himself, when kicking his head would accomplish nothing but sate your own desire for petty revenge. is ******* WRONG

#73 to #71 - catkyte

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You can sit here and preach your lofty ideals as much as you want but until you actually end up in a situation like the one above they'll just be nothing but talk. I 100% admit that i would do anything possible to stop someone that was trying to kill me regardless of how petty or low it comes off as.

#77 to #73 - bigmanblue

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how the **** is kicking him in the head when he is already on the ground disarmed and bleeding ******* stoping him
hes already been ******* stoped thats just petty revenge for nothing but your own violent desires
i can preach my ******* "lofty" ideals because im a ******* person who believes everyone is deserving of justice, that everyone is deserving of a fair trial and that ******* revenge acomplishes nothing but to sate ******* animal bloodlust
and how ******* lofty my ideals are, people shouldnt ******* beat on those who cant fight back, how ******* angelic.

#80 to #77 - catkyte

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They're trying to make sure he's dead or knocked out by stomping his face in, adrenaline does some crazy ****, they have no idea if he'd be able to get back up again, They all nearly died, who the **** would be in their right mind 5 seconds after being shot at?

#89 to #80 - culinaryexplain

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Exactly. He could have other weapons too. Hell, he could have been on hella drugs. They wouldn't have known. Knocking him out is a pretty good idea imho

#92 to #80 - bigmanblue

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no, they arent
they are just curb stomping the guy, if they wanted to stop him foing for hiden weapons they could easily have just held him down, but they curb stomped him

#97 to #92 - catkyte

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"make sure he's dead or knocked out by stomping his face in" look at what I said, they're trying to make sure he's out and using their feet is the safest way without getting any closer to him. Honestly I probably would have grabbed one of those chairs and used that instead of my feet. but who can think clearly in those circumstances.

#98 to #97 - bigmanblue

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dude they dont care about that, they stomp him several times then run off
they arent making sure of anything, they are just hitting him for the sake of hitting him

#101 to #98 - catkyte

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According to a previous comment this was incident was basically a turf war between two groups of workers over parking or something, they could have thought more people were coming from the opposite side to finish what this guy started, not to mention that it takes place in turkey which is ripe with terrorism and murder, Honestly this is one of those situations where they just wanted the guy dead no matter what. This guy was wrong for trying to kill them and If this happened to me i would have definitely attacked this guy however possible. People don't react well when their lives are threatened and the group mentality takes over. That being said I most definitely would have finished this guy off if i was in this situation.

#106 to #101 - bigmanblue

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and another coment said the cirppled guy was a drug dealer who had caused the shooters sister to have an overdose
in otherwords
i have no ******* clue why this happened, and i dont care the circumstances are irrelevant, the guy tried to shoot someone, he got shot in self defense, good, then some people decided to take their revenge then and there and kicked him in the head after he was disarmed, not good
if there was another guy coming their running is justifed, but we never see another guy and the way this looks to me they dont care about the outcome of their kicking, they just wanted to kick him, to cause some pain.
people taking justice into their own hands is never good for society as a whole
look at every ****** nation, and every great nation. invariably the ones which are great have a centralised justice system that works through unfeeling justice, and the ones that are ****** dont.

#108 to #106 - catkyte

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That's the thing, even in first world countries the law is skirted and flat out ignored time and time again. It's all subjective to who you are and the circumstances that brought about your situation. It's why you see people constantly getting outraged on the news when a sex offender gets let out of jail early for good behavior, or when a cop is let off with a slap on the wrist for unjustly shooting someone.

Nothing works 100% as it's intended because things tend to get screwed up whenever people are involved.

#65 to #58 - anon id: 9a4967d9

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This is the same logic that Batman uses. This is why the Joker keeps killing people in Gotham City

Spoiler alert: It doesn't work any better in the real world, either. I could understand if the guy went after a single person, for personal reasons, that, yes, they're a monster, but they deserve jailtime. However, If you spare a remorseless mass killer, who is out shooting people in public, and let them out of jail in the future, they're just gonna go try to kill more people again later.

#66 to #65 - bigmanblue

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well yeah
thats not even remotly close to what im argueing against
in your own ******* scenario what im argueing is the random people on the street dont beat the joker to death right then and there but put him into the justice system and let him be sentanced.
he still dies but one is vigilante murder and the other is justice

#122 to #54 - anonuseranonuser

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if the guy with the gun, wasnt there... then the people kicking him in the head might have been otherwise dead.

Downvote me all you want, but kicking someone in the head, after they just tried to kill everyone, is justified.

Maybe the guy has more guns, weapons, etc? Why not keep him down, and prevent him from trying to kill more people.

#57 to #54 - smartalac

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(08/12/2017) [-]

I expect as much from the ******* UK.

#59 to #57 - bigmanblue

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(08/12/2017) [-]

how the **** do you not see it as wrong to ******* stomp on the head of a guy who has already been disarmed and shot several times
hes not a threat anymore, hes not fighting back, he ******* cant, and they just ******* stomp on him and run off
others doing evil acts does not give you ******* free reign to also do evil acts
stop him yes, shoot him yes, but when hes on the ground disarmed and unable do do anything dont ******* kick him in the ******* head.

#61 to #59 - smartalac

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(08/12/2017) [-]

Lets let you get shot and see if you're singing the same tune. You, lying on the ground, fatally injured by a random gunman. They gun him down and begin beating him. I guarantee you, you're not gonna sit up riddled with holes to lecture them on good morality.

#64 to #61 - bigmanblue

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well ******* duh, in that scenario iv been shot i cant ******* sit up and lecture them im to ******* busy bleeding out
but if i was there and wasnt shot your damn ******* right id stop them ******* kicking his head in
i have my ******* principles, i have my human decency, and ******* beating on a man who cant fight back isnt one of them, no mater what hes done

#68 to #64 - smartalac

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(08/12/2017) [-]

Oh boi, okay. You can lecture me and the rest of us sane people while we beat down a mass murderer. If you think for one second I wouldnt put a ******* shooter through a wall, armed, injured or otherwise, you're dead wrong.

#70 to #68 - bigmanblue

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(08/12/2017) [-]

so your just gonna beat on him till hes dead
comit an act of vigilante murder because he did evil
at what point does a person stop deserving a proper trial then, at what point do people stop deserving justice.
no, hes done ******* evil, you stop him, you defend yourself and others, but kicking him while hes on the ground and unable to fight back is petty revenge, there is no justice nor decency there. you are using the wrong doings of another to justify your own wrong doings.

#76 to #70 - mehehe

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(08/12/2017) [-]

i feel like maybe one hit was justified, he reached back for his rifle and tried to cock it before he gets shot again if you watch a few times,

i dont think he needed to be jumped out on, but i'd be damn hard pressed not to put in a hit or two after he just put my life and some ************ who LITERALLY CAN'T RUN AWAY within inches of their death.

he's lucky to be alive at all, he'd have his face blown clean out if you tried that **** down here, they wouldn't have kicked him while he's down, they'd have put him down.

#84 to #76 - bigmanblue

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(08/12/2017) [-]

i think your misunderstanding, im completly okay with them shooting him
that is totaly justified and should have been done
its after his gun has been kicked away and hes surrounded that 2 guys start stomping his head that im not okay with
thats just petty bloodlust and revenege, and accomplishes nothing
its not justice, its just more violence

#72 to #70 - smartalac

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(08/12/2017) [-]

No, I'm going to beat him until he cant feel pain anymore. Until he cant move. Until hopefully he is permanently crippled. Then he can go to trial and be sentenced. And from then on, no matter what he does or where he goes, he will always be reminded of what happened. And he will serve as an example for others. Start ****, get hit.

#74 to #72 - bigmanblue

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(08/12/2017) [-]

thats what the ******* trial and sentencing are for you ******* moron, we dont need retards like you acting on petty revenge and beating on a guy because we have the ******* criminal justice system. THATS WHAT ITS FOR.
he deserves ******* punishment but he deserves a just punishment and a fair trial otherwise we are just violent animals and not ******* people with ******* human decency.

#75 to #74 - smartalac

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(08/12/2017) [-]

Okay, again, you can stand to the side and lecture us while we beat him down.

#78 to #75 - bigmanblue

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(08/12/2017) [-]

no i wouldnt ******* stand and lecture id ******* stop you, cos like i said im not a ******* animal and i have principles
aparently you are an animal though, that would beat on a man who cant fight back for nothing but to sate your own petty bloodlust and revenge

#81 to #78 - smartalac

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(08/12/2017) [-]

How would you stop me? Or the rest of the people beating him? And yeah, I'm an animal. I'm a dog. **** with my pack and you get your **** kicked in.

#90 to #81 - bigmanblue

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(08/12/2017) [-]

so you are saying if i tried to stop you beating on a disarmed man on the ground you would start beating on me?
because that kinda shows how its not about justice for you, you are just a violent piece of **** that wants to hurt someone

#94 to #90 - smartalac

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(08/12/2017) [-]

Well, how would you stop me, or anyone for that matter, from beating him? I didnt say anything about beating you. I wanna know how youd stop someone from doing that.

#96 to #94 - bigmanblue

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(08/12/2017) [-]

by ******* putting myself between you
by holding you off him
by ******* hitting you if you kept trying
what did you expect e to say? by writing ******* slam poetry?

#99 to #96 - smartalac

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(08/12/2017) [-]

But now you're resorting to violence. To defend a murderer. Someone who probably killed a few good, innocent people. What if one of those people was someone you knew? Someone you loved? Mother, father, daughter, son, wife, husband? You'd use violence against you're own fellow countrymen to protect a mass murderer? A terrorist? If someone murdered a person I cared about, that murderer would die. No questions asked. And id stand trial for the murder of said murderer. And I'd take my punishment. I'd rather serve time for doing what I felt was right than let someone like that live when someone I love no longer does.

#100 to #99 - bigmanblue

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(08/12/2017) [-]

well yes
i never objected to violence, i objected to uneeded unjust violence
and if it came down to it and a loved one of mine had been a victim, id like to think i would still act the same, thats what a principle is, if i dont keep them when it doesnt suit me its not a principle, its just empty air.
yes i would defend him, but only from unecesary violence, as he is on the ground unarmed and already shot, yes i would resort to violence to stop more violence if needed
but i only defend him so that he can face a proper trial, that he can have true justice acted on him and not just revenge.

and what if a relative of your murderer felt the same as you, what if they then decided that you had killed their relative and nothing would stop them killing you
there has to be a line, a point where we say "revenge is wrong" and let true unfeeling, unemotional justice take charge.

#105 to #100 - smartalac

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(08/12/2017) [-]

Jesus. I applaud your steadfastness to what you believe in, but i couldn't let something like that happen without acting. If not for revenge and punishment, then at least to keep that person from harming anyone ever again. What if he flees custody and escapes? Or if the courts fail and he walks a free man? The case may go on for years, wasting millions of taxpayer dollars and everyone's time. And if the case succeeds, then more money will be spent to feed and care for them in prison. I personally dont feel that person should serve time at all. I think they should just be put to death.

#107 to #105 - bigmanblue

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(08/12/2017) [-]

well thats somthing that can be argued as a failing of the justice system, that a wrongdoer could go free somply because there isnt enough concrete evidence against him
but in this case there are a **** ton of witnesses, his fingerprints on the gun and luckily enough, camera footage. so in this specific case thats not an issue, in other cases, just because somthing fails 1% of the time, doesnt mean it doesnt work 99% of the time
and as for his sentancing, that kinda depends on the circumstances dont you think, i saw one comment say it was just an arguement over parking, in which case hes a ******* psychopath who should be sentenced severly mabey even death yes, but another comment said the guy with crutches was a drug dealer who caused the shooters sister to overdose, and in that case i might feel a little more lenient, but not very, hes still a ******* madman who tried to kill someone

#111 to #107 - smartalac

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(08/12/2017) [-]

Even with the evidence, some of these kinds of cases can go on for way too long. There was one case of a serial murder with tons of evidence against him and confessions from his accomplice. That case still went on for 8 years. I agree with the 1%-99% statement. Its a tough call because you want them to face justice but you run the risk of it failing, even if its a small risk. Theres no way in he'll id want someone like this running free on account of some technicality of failure in the system. But in the end its a difference of opinions. I suppose its also a case of, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." But in the heat of the moment, I think id still beat the crap out him. Like someone mentioned, adrenaline does crazy things. And when **** like that starts happening, your mind does sort of go feral. Danger? Run. Threat? Fight. You dont really think clearly until the adrenaline is gone.

#79 to #74 - culinaryexplain

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(08/12/2017) [-]

Well, I bet your parents probably used a condom to prevent your birth, because that's what they're for. But just like the justice system, condoms dont always work. Guy is a piece of **** for trying to shoot random people.

#85 to #79 - smartalac

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(08/12/2017) [-]

Your username belies your wisdom. That had nothing to do with food at all. Wise, nonetheless.

#88 to #79 - bigmanblue

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yeah he is
was never in question
and no it doesnt always work
condoms dont always work, fire protection gear doesnt always work, brakes dont always work, phone lines dont always work, therapy doesnt always work
just because somthing doesnt always work doesnt mean we should just throw it away and not use it. just because it has a chance to fail deosnt mean its not still the best thing for the situation

#91 to #88 - culinaryexplain

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Oh, sorry, the condoms thing was a joke, not an actual point. It's a ridiculous appeal to a futility fallacy i believe. Sure, it probably would have been best if he was tried, but the citizens did a good thing in my eyes. Dude could have had way more guns on him and could still probably used them even after getting shot. Plus ya know adrenaline. I do however, agree that they did go too far with a bunch of them jumping in and kicking him. Adrenaline makes people do lots of ****.

#93 to #91 - bigmanblue

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(08/12/2017) [-]

adreniline does make you do ****, but it doesnt change who you are
there were many other ways of stomping him going for potential hidden weapons or keeping him down
curb stomping him was the one they went for, curb stomping him several times then running away when their revenge was satisfied.

#95 to #93 - culinaryexplain

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(08/12/2017) [-]

Yeah, I can admit they we're kinda ****** for stomping him multiple times my man. I completely understand where you come from.

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