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#3 - invisifat

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And then he fights a foe who has sharks and they mock him, saying that they are on equal footing.

And then the first Megalodons in millions of years surface from the unknown abyss of the ocean and the bad guy ***** his pants.

#95 to #3 - catburglarpenis

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> Darkseid looks at Aquaman, nailing a speech about how ****** everyone is and how great he is
> Aquaman just looks with fire in his eyes
> the earth begins to rumble as the siren from Silent Hill begins to sound
> He has awakened the ancient evil
> he comes from his underwater city of R'lyeh
> now no one is safe but the master
> Aquaman has him under his command

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn, ************.

#113 to #3 - kalagas

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(07/14/2017) [-]

Where can I read that, sounds cool?

#4 to #3 - angelious

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(07/13/2017) [-]

then you remember that just about all the villains justice league fight are on the same level as superman if not higher and that megalodon is just a small fry..

aquaman is a nice hero but he seriously isnt that strong of a character in the grand scheme of things...

#12 to #4 - invisifat

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Villain tries to challenge Aquaman, thinking "oh, he talks to fish, I'll beat him like a rented mule".

Aquaman summons a monster from the deep which grabs the confused, terrified villain and drags him into the pitch black depths. Immortal, capable of breathing where there is no air, including in space and underwater...

And doomed to what feels like an eternity of crushing depths, gnashing teeth, total darkness and freezing cold.

#146 to #12 - dofr

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(07/14/2017) [-]

so basically...the villian lives the normal life?

#154 to #12 - voidgangsta

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(07/14/2017) [-]

Is he really immortal?

Are we talking live indefinitely but can still die to wounds or can get wounded but won't die

#155 to #154 - invisifat

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In the context, he would be immortal. Doesn't age, can't be wounded.

#156 to #155 - voidgangsta

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In the context? I'm talking about his actual stats

#157 to #156 - invisifat

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... the villain. The villain is immortal.

I don't think Aquaman is immortal.

#13 to #12 - angelious

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(07/13/2017) [-]

and then the villain just snaps the monster from the deep in half by flexing his buttox...because y know. justice league villains are just about always as strong as superman if not stronger.thats why they usually have a team of superheroes go after them.

i outlined below here where the "aquaman is useless" joke comes from. he is a good character. but as far as justice league goes, he is really a niche when it comes down to usefullness.

#14 to #13 - invisifat

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(07/13/2017) [-]

And then there's another, bigger fish to drag them down. And they kill it.

And there's five more, BIGGER monsters after that.

And it keeps going, swarming them more and more with more and more horrible, unearthly things until they can't be sure if they're fighting animals or demons.

If you edge hard enough, you can out-OP ****** supervillains.

#16 to #14 - angelious

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(07/13/2017) [-]

and then you realize that nothing within a planet can actually hold down a supervillain that can destroy a planet unless there is another planet destroyer. thats why its always martian,superman,flash,gl and wonderwoman who take the fight to the enemy. because they are the only people who can actually dance on that level of power.

ALSO the most horrific eldrich monsters in the oceans dont even listen to the aquaman..not that even those things could stand againts something like despero,darkseid,mongul or starro. which are justice leagues m.o to fight.

#72 to #16 - maximuso

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And Batman. If Batman, mere human, can face-down gods and demons with the JL, why can't the Atlantean? Outside of summoning monsters from the deep, The King Of Atlantis has a bit going for him.

Why isn't it just 7 Supermen on the JL? Seems terribly inefficient

#173 to #72 - angelious

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(07/14/2017) [-]

batman doesnt fight them head on. batman takes care of tactical thinking,investigations as well as scientific matters.

#18 to #16 - invisifat

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At which point the villain shouldn't be being fought by ******* Aquaman.

#19 to #18 - angelious

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hence why aquamans place in justice league has lead to several jokes about how useless he is.

because as i laid down in comment #10 he simply doesnt bring anything to the team. like green arrow; he is just a filler for the roster that is only useful for them in very VERY specific settings. and chances are one of the other members could easily just do the job themself anyway.

#20 to #19 - invisifat

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I guess his role would be more political than anything else.

#21 to #20 - angelious

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justice league doesnt do politics. and even if they had to get involved, they have more than enough political sway already with batman and superman (one who can flex his wallet and contacts and the other one who is loved by just about every nation in the world and is one of the most charismatic superheroes on the planet) and then there is ofcourse diana who is pretty much on even grounds as far as positions go with king arthur,except she is a lot better diplomat

yet again we are left with the question of why have people like green arrow and aquaman in the team. while in the original one it was simply explained because they teamed up to fight a threat, in every iteration where they have to actually put a team together aquaman shouldnt be one of the names to pop up as a candidate for the position of earths primary defenders. because there are just so many better heroes who can fill his position

#22 to #21 - invisifat

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(07/13/2017) [-]

But all his ****** on Earth, and in the event that an army is needed he's got the bases covered.

#30 to #22 - janosaudron

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An army needed for what? Honestly, everyone knows aquamans kingdom is down there nobody really gives a **** other than aquamans own villains. Majority of DC villains are not trying to take over the ******* ocean. That's like the king of Madagascar saying come at me. Nobody wants your **** Madagascar.

#31 to #30 - invisifat

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(07/13/2017) [-]

Anyone who's ever played Plague.Inc will beg to ******* differ, methinks.

#23 to #22 - angelious

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if an army is needed then they can just use supermans contacts and get an army of superheroes.
if that doesnt happen then there is the amazonian military which is pretty much one of the strongest militaries on dc earth.
heck if it really goes down, then green lantern can just call up the green lantern corps. aka the most powerfullest police force in the entire universe.

#24 to #23 - invisifat

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(07/13/2017) [-]

DC is a ***********.

#25 to #24 - angelious

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(07/13/2017) [-]

how so?

#193 to #25 - ljxjlos

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Yeah, you did. Doesn´t happen too often, actually, most people tend to mispell it.

Guess that counts as a reason. I still wish people would realize that a character doesn´t have to be an all-powerful demigod to be a great character.

Short question besides that: How is Wonder Women so much above Aquaman? She´s one of the characters that I barely know more then the absolute base informations about, but I always thought she was pretty much a female Aquaman, bit of endurance, bit of power, bit of magic, magical weapon and a similar backstory...

#194 to #193 - angelious

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agreed. it also doesnt make sense that the same people who talk about how aquaman is the strongest of all always throw a hissy fit when people talk about superman or flash being the strongest of all dc earth heroes and call them ****** characters because of it. double standards much?

wonderwoman is just a shy bit weaker than superman and martian. she is after all: a demigod made out of clay.

the best instance to show how strong she is would be when she fought superman evenly while travelling from earth to the sun, and then getting knocked back to earth by superman and living to tell the tale. all of this btw took place in less than 3 minutes.

#26 to #25 - invisifat

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All the vaguely supremely destructive beings all over everything, NONE of whom can ******* get along and at least half of whom seem to have an inherent Evil gene, and there's still life in the universe?

#27 to #26 - angelious

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thats because there are protectors who keep them in check.

green lanterns themselves are pretty policing the entire universe, and nothing sort of an eldrich abomination or an actual space conquerror like mongul ever warrants more than one of them to be in a single galaxy since thats all they really need to keep the galaxy safe. nothing sort of darkseid is enough to actually fight off the lantern corps, and darkseid is kept in check by the new gods.

then there are various superheroes like superman,adam strange and such who also take it up with themselves to hold the universe in order.

#28 to #27 - invisifat

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(07/13/2017) [-]

I was under the impression that not even Darkseid was immune to the "approximate level of unreasonably common powers" thing. Have they actually managed to hold integrity and not ass-pull hundreds of different, weakly written bad guys on Darkseid's level?

#29 to #28 - angelious

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(07/13/2017) [-]

nah. darkseid still stands as the top dog.
there have been several types of planet conquerroring villains. but even planet conquerroring villains **** in fear at the idea of fighting darkseid.

imo if you want to see ****** up **** in dc. you should look at the magical community. the only few reasons they haventh either destroyed dc earth or conquerrored it is because of fear of god and selfishness.

#152 to #29 - cantexplain

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(07/14/2017) [-]

I think all those stories are made up, not sure tho

#49 to #29 - whichever

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(07/13/2017) [-]

looks like someone doesn't like you

#177 to #49 - angelious

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mate i just went againts the hive mind and reminded them aquaman isnt the end all be all superhero they are trying to wank him as.

ofcourse they dont like me.

#192 to #177 - angelious

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ljxjlos mentions dont work again..so hope i spelled your name correctly.

the reason this started i would fathom is because of wide abundance of jokes made at aquamans expense due to his horrific showings in shows like super friends,jlaa and the comic book runs which just made him look like an utter joke. people who liked the character started to stand up for him (me included) which included showing his better side and skills.

ofcourse as you can see people in here dont exactly follow comic books or even like them. so they are completely cluesless on the power ladder in place or anything else really, so when they see comic book fans praising aquaman they jump on the bandwagon and now we have the bandwagon that claims aquaman is the strongest and greatest of all time.

its really annoying in my opinion..its why i try to stay away from discussing comic book characters unless its with another known fan like comicexplain or something.

#195 to #177 - comicexplain

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The name thing is irksome - I hope it gets fixed soon! Sometimes I have to go to my mentioned list to see who called me at all - It hurts!

#191 to #177 - ljxjlos

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I don´t really get why this wanking has started, either way.

Aquaman is my favorite, but he´s never been cool because he´s overpowered, he´s always been cool because he´s been a great character.

Don´t get why people keep wanting him to be on Supermans level, strenght-wise - that´s just not Aquaman.

#9 to #4 - astarothaufromage

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(07/13/2017) [-]

His magic and army usually are enough to turn the tide. He had mountain sized krakens under his command. It's great that they can include him in any story, but also odd. City scale villains shouldn't bother the kind of the largest empire on earth too much.

#10 to #9 - angelious

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(07/13/2017) [-]

not really...again even as far as magic goes he isnt a heavy hitter. and mountain sized krakens will just leave a mountain sized corpse.

he is a good character. but the joke that he is useless has its basis on the fact that he is in a team where he really brings nothing to the table.

flash,superman and martian are heavy hitters on a level aquaman cant handle, wonderwoman has magic handled quite well already and she is far more powerful than aquaman is when it comes down to it. they dont have a need for strategist since they already have batman, they have stealth covered with batman as well, and even tho aquamans empire technically is the largest there is, it doesnt really offer justice league much anything. kryptonian tech and batmans inventions already trump everything the atlanteans have,and if they need some serious tech, then they already have the world smartest people on their beck and call, and jl is already financially backed by some of the richest men on the planet(batman,ga,blue beetle and few others) while atlantean currency is not recognized anywhere.

aquaman brings nearly nothing to the table. and his image has taken even worse blows because of the terrible usage of his licence in the past few decades.

be thankful however that aquaman isnt green arrow (another great character on his own right) since green arrow brings even less to the table than aquaman...

#132 to #10 - CommonJoo

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(07/14/2017) [-]

got a non thumbnail pic?

#139 to #132 - confusedasian

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(07/14/2017) [-]

Aquman getting btfo.

He really is one of my favorite heroes. It's interesting seeing a "king's" point of view. I'm loving Aquaman rebirth.

#56 to #10 - ogthegreat

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(07/13/2017) [-]

That's not how team work goes.

It doesn't matter if one or more members can do the same thing. The purpose of team work is to pool together resources. Robin is basically Batman but weaker and less experienced. Yet, he always finds a reason to get another one every time they leave.

MM is basically a Superman palette swap with some exceptions but you haven't made any comparisons between them. They're either on the same level or one of them is more powerful overall. The argument folds in on itself.

#176 to #56 - angelious

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because mm being superman with more hax already justifies him being on the team.

they are fighting beings stronger than superman. they need heavy hitters like mm and wonderwoman. hence why i said "lash,superman and martian are heavy hitters on a level aquaman cant handle"

also sorry for the double post.

#205 to #176 - ogthegreat

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(07/15/2017) [-]

Does having a prosthetic arm that fires lasers negate the usefulness of the other flesh and blood arm?

You're contradicting yourself. Why is out okay for MM to be, with exceptions, Superman+ but not okay for anyone else to be Aquaman+?

If strength was solely the utility of the JL, then there'd be no need for Batman. Every hero has resources, no matter how much they overlap or exceed. Combing them is the point of being a team in the first place.

Don't even try to argue with your pathetic logic if you're that incapable of abstract reasoning.

#207 to #205 - angelious

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(07/15/2017) [-]

that makes about as much sense as the rest of your arguments.

because mm actually brings something to the table by being in the same power level as superman,not to mention his mindreading abilities and various other haxes. i already pointed this out. meanwhile there is absolutely no value that aquaman brings to the table.

and i already pointed out why batman is nessesary for justice league...its almost as if you arent even reading what i post and just spew out your arguments with no care that all of them have already been debunked.

next time you post. atleast read to what you are replying to

#208 to #207 - ogthegreat

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Yes, my arguments make sense.

Aquaman on some level is less intelligent, more powerful version of Batman. He's got tactical prowess, leadership abilities due to being accustomed to taking part in the upper echelons of society, wealth, and resources that can be harvested as tools for victory, particularly against Kryptonians.

The same simplification argument you're using for MM works for AM. SM and MM are similar but have attributes unique to them. That doesn't make either or useless or redundant.

You're not even trying to sound intelligent anymore.

#209 to #208 - angelious

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(07/15/2017) [-]

no they really dont

no he really isnt. he is nowhere near as smart as batman,nor is he as good commander nor leader. and he really doesnt have anything special againts kryptonians outside of some weaksauce magic (superman can go up againts shazam.) and maybe few shards of kryptonite. his wealth on the other hand adds nothing since its a currency not recognized anywhere outside of atlantis. again this part was also explained.

i have also explained this one as well. but since reading and thinking isnt your strong point i will repeat: mm is needed because he is a top card player. aquaman isnt a top card. in combat he is horridly outgunned by everybody the jla fights and is pretty much useless in that field, and in terms of scientific work/tactics/leadership they already have batman, who yet again is ******** better leader than aqua is.

#210 to #209 - ogthegreat

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SM isn't as fast as Flash. WW isn't as strong as Supes. Green Lantern isn't as green as Green Arrow, or Batman more importantly.

Batman's not the only one on the team that's super rich or super smart. He may be one of the highest ranked in either category but that doesn't undermine the utility of those inferior to him, even if by a small margin. This goes back to the Batman/Robin argument.

Atlantis currency can be used to purchase goods sold underwater, or converted to land money if its recognized as an independent nation. Also, there's rare material underwater worth muchos dineros up top.

Magic or Kryptonite no matter how strong can harm kryptonians.

Being lesser tiered in some areas doesn't make one useless. You can carry multiple guns of different power. The more, the merrier.

By the way, AM is one of the better fighters in the League. Much better than Superman or MM, who's primary means of melee combat amount to punching and throwing really hard. He's most likely received training, which is something a lot of Leaguers lack or don't use when they exclusively rely on their powers even sometimes more so than their minds.

We can go at this all day, but this isn't an argument you can win.

#211 to #210 - angelious

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yet in combat he is stronger than flash. green lantern is stronger than both green arrow and batman. not to mention he has the most knowledge about extra terrestrial threats.
are you really so stupid you fail to understand the term "top card fighter" ???

yet they have absolutely no need for the ones inferior to him since he already got those fields covered. and more.

atlantis goods are useless to justice league since they have access to both batmans tech and kryptonian tech. atlantean currency cant be converted since its isolationalist nation that isnt really recognized by anybody. same with the amazons.

yet it wont take a kryptonian down. you need a lot more than that, as it has been shown by superman.

yet those multiple guns better carry different usages or else you are just having extra baggage on you.

no he really isnt.. if you mean by pure martial arts experience then he is props on par with superman, who has been trained in kryptonian martial arts as well as receiving extra training from batman,wildcat and wonder woman. same with martian manhunter. (also you just nicely outed yourself as not knowing ******** about comic books with that comment)
also the martial arts experience doesnt really matter since all of the enemies they fight will just turn him into fine red mist with a single punch before he has the chance to even register that they moved.

yeah trying to make a retard understand a single concept like this is kinda impossible....

#212 to #211 - ogthegreat

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If you find Wild Cat useful, you're contradicting yourself. Batman's got a much wider resume of martial arts than him. By your logic, since he's redundant and inferior, he's lower tiered and therefore useless.

By the way, in hand-to-hand, Superman rarely does anything that doesn't emphasize his strength. Martial-Arts places emphasis on form and technique. Superman's only good at punching and he's not even the best at that. Torquasm-Rao is just a series of poses that gives him energy and helps him concentrate. Torquasm-Vo is an elevated mental state that allow mind battles. Neither one of these martial-arts add to his knowledge of how to hurt people with his body.

It also doesn't make sense to bring up martial-arts only to call it useless by exemplifying a very narrow series of possibilities that ignores context and situation.
You just defeated the purpose of adding to SM's fighting prowess. And by the way, the Leaguers don't always fight super strong or super fast people. Prometheus should come to mind.

Superman going against Black Adam doesn't mean much if he's not constantly taking blows from his lightning. Superman's super durable but not immune to the effects of magic. Magical elements won't do double damage but they'll hurt him. A sharp magical object will however pierce him like it would a normal man. Even a micrometer of kryptonite can give him krptonite poisoning, which happened in a New-52 story where an alternate universe version of Atom shrunk small enough to place a fragment into a brain cell or something. And in a He-Man cross over, a regular magical sword killed him. Aquaman's trident is magic but it could do Superman.

Nothing says Atlantis can't or won't ever be recognized by the the surface.

The implication was that any gun can kill any man. Having more of the same or even a weaker one can save somebody if they can't use another. Your lack of understanding for that metaphor directly relates to your inferior reasoning.

In a poetic sense, you can't bring anything useful to this discussion because of your lack of wits. You acknowledge

A team is a group effort. It's not simply about having fleets of really good guys. Superman, Batman, etc can't be everywhere at once nor are they all powerful. A great team covers each others weaknesses. What do you do when some kryptonite immobilizes Supes or some fire stuns MM? You call Shazam. What do you do when you need a sneak attack that Batman can't deliver? You call Aquaman. It's been said that enemies tend to underestimate Aquaman and that's part of what leads to their defeat.

I'm telling you right now: There's nothing you can say that I can't counter. I'm not psychic but the foundation of all of your arguments are flawed. If you fail to realize this, you've shown further proof that your reasoning here is little to non-existent. Knowing this, you're still going to reply, either insulting my intelligence in a manner similar to what I just said, and/or saying something that will easily be disproved in the following comment. You're not even thinking how I might reply or rationally for that matter. You're just thinking about satisfying your feelings. If you find a better reason to argue, then you can leave room for intelligent discourse. But you're not helping your case and only digging yourself deeper into a pit of stubborn ignorance, which is just stupidity at this point.

And because of that stupidity, you will continue to prove me right without care. Just stop trying.

#213 to #212 - angelious

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and now you are just grasping at straws with no care about the fact you look like a moron. wildcat is a trainer. we were talking about martial arts experience. wildcat TRAINED batman and superman. and he isnt even justice league member. he is retired.

yet again showing that you dont read comic books at all. also that you dont actually read my comments since i also said that superman has been trained on earths martial arts by wildcat and batman...

then why did you try bring up martial arts idiot? and againts prometheus aquaman was still useless as ****.he wasnt strong enough to fight him, nor was he smart enough to fight him.

he has consistently taken blows from the lightning. also same idiotic type of claim could be made of the atlantean magic. except atlantean magic is not even near as powerful as shazams. who is one of the strongest magical beings on dc earth. aquamans magic trident doesnt really mean ******** when he isnt strong nor fast enough to use it againts superman. ALSO are you seriously so retarded you will try to make this into superman versus aquaman debate?

except comic books?

and yet if you have high tech future target locking weaponry. you propably wont need to carry out a 200 year old flintlock musket that wont even penetrate the armor that your enemy wears.

and yet aquaman covers nobodys weakness,and adds nothing to the team. rest of this is just trying to tailor make a scenario where aquaman is useful. which is the reason why fans started to make jokes about aquaman in the first place.

im telling you. i have already countered everything you laid out...twice actually since you are so retarded i had to repeat myself. you can keep on being delusional idiot but the only one you are harming is yourself.

but yes you are right...i would prove myself to be an idiot if i would continue to argue with a retard that doesnt even read comic books about something as simple as this..so i will be the better man (not that it takes much to be better than someone as stupid as you) and stop.

you can keep on crying here. but its not going to change anything. next time you want to argue about something. atleast make sure you know something about the subject.

#214 to #213 - ogthegreat

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In some iterations, Wild Cat is part of a team. Martial-arts is his only method of combat. He's still relevant to the discussion by virtue of him contributing an asset.

There's no way you could discern that I didn't read your comments if I brought up Wild Cat, who you brought into the discussion.

Ad hominen: attacking the person as opposed to the argument. Although, that wouldn't be wrong if it strengthened a point relevant to discussion.

Martial-arts was only brought up to supplement the fact that exceeding one another doesn't make any member of the team useless or redundant. That was self-evident.

I brought up Prometheus less because of his direct interaction with Aquaman and more as a means to give validity to martial-arts and tactics.

This isn't a Superman vs Aquaman debate. You're the one that keeps offering reasons why his trident wouldn't kill Superman. Also, consider that Supes coming into contact with his weaknesses is less about how strong or fast he is and more about being caught off guard.

Your flintlock comparison folds in on itself. There's a possibility that you can run out of ammo for it and taking out another gun would be much quicker. And you purposely used two examples, one of the best vs one of the worse, to highlight your point. That's a false dichotomy. Even in that case, you're assuming that a musket would fail in every scenario, which is unfounded. If used creatively, it can work, as with anything.

You're fooling yourself if you think you defeated my arguments. But since you seem so sure of yourself, surely you won't mind doing it in a simplified list form that allows my inferior intellect to process.

By the way, you've already proved you were an idiot for going on with this conversation as long as you did, never mind that you did exactly as I said you would. You've probably blocked me already because you know you can't come up with anything to counter my points but want to create the illusion of leaving because you're frustrated with someone's else stupidity. Even if you think I'm wrong, you can't change the fact that I know you gave up. It's the verbal equivalent of hitting someone and running away. It's something people only do when they realize they're argument doesn't work. You can lie all you want but you can't convince me that you're not full of it.

You keep using your emotions as a reason for further debate. You're not even thinking clearly. You keep saying I've never read comics but if that was the case, then rationally you would have stopped much sooner. By virtue of this debate, and by you not explaining who or what these characters and concepts are, you've already acknowledged that I'm knowledgeable about comics.

By the way, I've seen that picture a few minutes ago in a Google search. That doesn't change my point: Superman rarely does anything that doesn't emphasize his strength. I think it goes without saying that he still opts for good ol' fisty cups more than anything else.

#174 to #56 - angelious

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yet if one team member doesnt bring anything to the table he is quite useless to the team.

#96 to #56 - doxkid

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Except he is strongest in the ocean. No major league hero has that kind of limitation.

"Darkseid you dumb ****! Come fight me in the ocean if you really think you're tough!" only works five or six times before Darkseid starts his rain of laser-death from orbit and does NOT touchdown.

Story wise, he is also excessively niche; Batman is 'Man triumphs over evil through cleverness', Superman is "America is NOT a bully and if you say we are I will punch unconscious.", Wonder Woman is "Honor. Strength. Ovaries. Justice.". The **** is Aqua-man? "I like sea-Turtles." isn't something you can really get behind.

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As evident in the content, he still has uses away from water. You're just focusing on that one detail to strengthen your point.

We can't have an intelligent discussion if you're not even trying.

#101 to #98 - doxkid

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Alright. Lets put the water aside.

What does Aquaman stand for? What does he represent in a story? How does he influence a plot in a useful way.

What is his role other than "guy who is always second best at everything relevant"? He only has half of most packages: Superman strength/endurance, but no flight or Speed so he lacks mobility (especially offworld). Batman tech without Batman's genius/planning/paranoia, so he doesn't have kyrptonite stashed up his ass..

Even assuming each of his abilities are as powerful as the best the first-string team has to offer, the only person he can really replace is Superman as the main Tank/DPS, assuming someone tosses him at the enemy every now and again.

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Your argument is ignorant and exaggerates.

I haven't read every Aqauman story, nor do I know how much you've read, but I've read some. If you did too and activated your critical thinking powers, you would sea that there's themes of identity, destiny, responsibility, family, etc. He's from the only DC character to hold these traits. He's far from the only character to hold these traits. However, the fact that they overlap so much goes to show that your initial argument that he doesn't bring anything new to the table or anything at all folds in on itself.
As in life, multiple people share similarities. Some exceed others, yes. But life isn't so simple that somebody else is objectively better because they have similar qualities but in excess, nor does that negate the utility of another person. Batman's strong, but nearly every other Leaguer out matches him. Superman's fast, but the Flash is faster. Wonder Woman can deflect bullets with her wrist bands, but Power Girl can deflect bullets with her boobs.

I'll say it again to drive this point home. Team work isn't about bringing something new to the table. It's about combing your strengths however small or redundant they are. It is defined by both quality and quantity. There's not such thing as a redundant person. There's no such thing as a redundant character. Even twins have things that separate themselves from one another. By virtue of them not occupying the same conscious, they are different.

People aren't so simple that they can be totally replaced by others, and the same goes for characters.

By the way, I've only ever read like two New-52 Aquaman stories and seen him in in the JLA and YJ cartoons and his sole animated movie thus far. There's a lot more to his character than I know but it's possible to surmise a decent amount him just by looking at a few of the stories he is featured in.

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not really. he is stronger in the ocean, capble of taking down, maybe something like the flash if you stretch it. but the major leaguers like supes and mm still beat his ass underwater. he is just horridly outgunned by the actual heavy hitters.

#142 to #10 - NinjaHermit

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Well... to be fair, very few characters, hero or villain, are on par with the likes of Superman and Flash.

#104 to #10 - wraithguard

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Green Arrow brings money to the table.

#172 to #104 - angelious

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already covered by bats

#202 to #172 - wraithguard

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More money is better.

#11 to #10 - angelious

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that ******* thumpnail...hope this one works better

#138 to #11 - lexoheight

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Happen to know what issue this is?

#133 to #4 - jacksipian

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Aquaman essentially fights Cthulhu every year around the same time and always wins. Aquaman can beat Superman in a fight

#143 to #133 - confusedasian

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He actually can't. This is coming from an Aquaman fan. If they're in the water for whatever reason, he has an edge. However take that away and Superman's speed alone is enough to beat Aquaman with a blitz. Aquaman has show to be able to hurt Superman, but that was because he caught him off guard.

This of course isn't taking in account Aquaman's trident or if he has his magic water hand doo dad. Superman just has too much he can do against Aquaman. He summons a tidal wave, Clark freezes it. Arthur uses his magic, Clark stays at a distance with his heat vision. Fist on fist? Arthur's strength doesn't even compare to Clark's.

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aquaman's trident is his biggest advantage and that can absolutely turn the tide

#206 to #150 - ogthegreat

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Literally.

#215 to #206 - jacksipian

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I'm so glad someone got the pun

#179 to #150 - showzilla

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Agsinst a man who routinely survives captain marvels magic attacks and could fry Arthur from space? No

#171 to #133 - angelious

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cthulhu is weaker than superman. even with hype he is just a planet killer. also aquaman doesnt fight cthulhu...because aquaman isnt a planet killer.

#197 to #171 - jacksipian

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it's not cthulhu, but its an extra dimensional being like Cthulhu that comes back at the same time every year and Aquaman beats him every time

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first of all no its not extra dimensional. mxy is extra dimensional. and not even the entire justice league put together could even make mxy or any other higher dimensional being even sweat. those guys can destroy entire universes just by shouting high enough.

second the "not cthulhu" is still weak. not even reaching a planet killer in strength.

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#108 to #32 - lazysans

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Fred has some wierd fetishes.

#162 to #32 - JontheDragon

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Don't forget Aquaman also dries out if he stays out in the sun too long.

#2 - stabbedinthecrotch

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**stabbedinthecrotch roll picture searched Salty**

#6 - anon id: 8e69917d

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YOU STILL WEAR AN ORANGE SCALE MAIL AND BRIGHT GREEN PANTS, NOBODY IS GOING TO ******* RESPECT YOU, YOU ******* CLOWN.

GET A VISUAL REDESIGN AND THEN WE WILL TALK ABOUT ADMIRATION.

#7 to #6 - ljxjlos

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Have you seen his modern design? Looks pretty damn cool.

Not to mention that I just don´t get it. People make fun of Aquamans suit. It´s scale armor both fitting his "water"-theme as well as his "King"-theme.

Yet, the same people, at the same time, hype a guy who, despite being a ******* millionaire, runs around dressed like an autistic bat.

Like...what the ****?

#33 to #7 - boopexemahdude

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he looks like hes wearing an old lemon skin

#153 to #7 - invisifat

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When you can see him, Batman isn't really that scary. He's a lot scarier when you're out doing a crime and you glimpse this... person or something in the shadows, but there's something off about his silhouette, and then he basically disappears and starts thumping the **** out of all your friends without being seen or saying a word.

#180 to #153 - ljxjlos

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Even then, his costume isn´t that scary. If you barely see him, the only thing you can make out is his cape. Could be everyone at at that point. Could be Batman, could be Red Tornado, could be Superman.

Yet again you could say the same again. Take the scene from The Dark Knight, for example, the one at the docks. What´s scarier? The scene it played out, with Batman taking out the guys without being scene? Or, imagine it with Aquaman. You´re doing criminal stuff at the docks and at once, your comrades start flying around and all you can see is a trident glimmering in the dark...you turn around thinking that maybe you can flee by jumping into the water, but no...the docks are filled with ******* sharks.

Or, you know. You do criminal stuff at the docks and suddenly an army walks out from the water, led by a king in golden chainmal...

Every super hero can be ******* scary given the right circumstances, but everytime I see people hating on Aquaman and hyping Batman, I just wonder why they don´t think about seeing both of them side by side on a sunny day. Which of the two looks ridiculius now?

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The secret is that it's Batman. Batman is in Gotham. Everyone knows that. Nobody else likes to patrol Gotham.

And Aquaman isn't allowed to use an army to punish common criminals.

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He´s the king, he can do what he wants. No, I see what you mean, but he doesn´t even have to punish anyone, every common criminal would **** themselves without the army even really doing anything.

#183 to #182 - invisifat

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It'd still send the United States government into ********.

#184 to #183 - ljxjlos

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At the current point in the comics, basically everything Aquaman does sends the US into ********.

#8 to #7 - uglychino

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Because we **** were he lives.

#15 to #8 - anon id: 6cd068ae

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his main element is the very reason you live, you ignorant

#131 to #15 - fuckingtrolls

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I don't drink ocean water bitch.

#41 to #6 - badtimesans

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And yet you admire a bat and a man in a muscle shirt and tights?

#37 - thecanadianwarlord

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people forget that Aquamans tridant can straight up kill super man... legitly not joking in the slightest. he is the thor of the marvel universe

"Trident of Neptune - The Trident is a magical weapon that grants its wielder great power and the divine right to rule the sea. The original Trident of Neptune was forged by the cyclops out of admantine and Neptune's own essence. It can manipulate and conjure water, as well as disperse energy in the form of bolts and force fields. The Trident of Neptune may be used by his chosen champions, and was most recently wielded by Aquaman.

The Trident beholds a vast number of magical powers such as the power to command the sea (making tidal waves or whirlpools or even making columns of water to stand on), control the weather (summoning rain or storms or creating rainbows), unleash blasts of lightning, and even turn living creatures into something else." <- taken from the bio..... the trident is the equivalent of Mjolnir

#93 to #37 - thecanadianwarlord

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ontop of his trident's mystical powers, it also gives him lordship over the sea MEANING he is like the dr doom of the sea meaning the whole hero thing is a side objective to his real job, being the KING atlantis, he is a freeken king ontop of everything and being a chosen of Neptune himself, he is basically a demi-god being half as strong as superman if not as strong

people also mistake him being able to talk to fish, he cant. but he does COMMAND them, thanks to the trident.

personal opinion: the dood is a total badass and not a guy you want to screw with.

#112 to #37 - cormy

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Sorry did you just say he's the Thor of Marvel's Universe?
That's strange, and here I thought Thor was the Thor of Marvel's Universe

#185 to #112 - thecanadianwarlord

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crap, i knew i got that wrong, sorry.

#97 to #37 - emperorwatergate

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And if the DC Wiki is to be believed, the Trident Of Neptune and the Trident Of Poseidon are two different things.

Meaning he has TWO of these things.

#94 - anon id: 0a644677

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It's amazing how one cartoon from the 70's can turn one character into a joke for eternity

#83 - anoynglyanoying

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If he can control every sea crature, then he cn control Godzilla too no?

#85 to #83 - ruulo

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godzilla isnt a sea creature, godzilla just learned how to swim

#86 to #85 - tigronn

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**** godzilla tho

#88 to #86 - ruulo

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careful what words you put next to eachother, you may end up with a completely different context

#134 to #88 - darthdingo

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In that case; **** GODZILLA REPEATEDLY AND VIGOROUSLY!

#89 to #88 - tigronn

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Check my profile picture and ask yourself; How would that be a bad thing for Tigronn?

#90 to #89 - ruulo

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Who said i was implying it was a bad thing?

#128 to #90 - heavenwave

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It's a bad thing......a very bad thing....

#91 to #90 - tigronn

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You told me to be careful, which I assumed means it may end up with something I wouldn't like
which is not true, at all

#92 to #86 - anon id: 98e844a2

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But Cthulhu is dead. He only interacts with the human world because his (its?) dreams interfere with people's wiring and cause madness

#118 to #92 - omegacrusader

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He isn't dead he's just asleep

#186 to #92 - ruulo

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Incorrect: The mythos state that his soul has left his body, not that he is dead. the madness and dreams are a result of a deep one having an out of body experience

#151 to #92 - IamPinhead

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The concepts of life and death are beneath the Old Ones.

#110 to #83 - IamPinhead

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Godzilla isn't strictly a sea creature. He's capable of staying underwater and hibernating for long periods of time, but it's more appropriate to call him an amphibian.

#87 to #83 - kanatana

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Depends on the ancestry of Godzilla, but considering the fact that it's canon that he/she/it lives under the ocean for long periods of time without the need to surface, there's ample evidence to suggest that the animals that formed the background of any given Godzilla from any given timeline were indeed aquatic, or at the very least amphibian. If Godzilla is some kind of freak reptile/amphibian nuclear hybrid, it might be able to absorb oxygen from water through the skin, or even have gills under its armor plate.

Given this evidence, and if Godzilla is indeed a native to the ocean, then yes, in a possible universe where Aquaman and Godzilla coexist, Godzilla would be Aquaman's city-destroying bitch.

#34 - toosexyforyou

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Why do we even pretend anyone stands a chance against Superman.

#38 to #34 - sketchE

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because they do and some writers are just ******. magic can hurt him. he cant run through time.

#54 to #34 - turdknocker

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Doomsday can kill Superman. I think Doomsday can't be truly killed but only contained.

#63 to #54 - toosexyforyou

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Fair enough, that would be a worthy discussion if nothing else

#40 to #34 - Tyranitar

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Martian Manhunter is actually stronger than Superman at his maximum, excluding Superman Prime, but that takes like 10,000 years for him to achieve.

#35 to #34 - flameprintz

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Because they do if it's convenient to the plot.

#36 to #35 - toosexyforyou

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It's a lot more fun to just admit Superman and the Flash would beat everyone else without plot having any effect. That way you can actually discuss something controversial like Green Lantern vs Starfire.

#73 to #36 - flameprintz

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green lantern would win right? I don't know much about starfire outside of Teen Titans tv series

#145 to #73 - confusedasian

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Which lantern? They all would win against Starfire though. They have too much to answer whatever she throws at them.