British Breaking Bad

#5 - anon id: a52c8da7

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(08/13/2017) [-]

Remember this the next time some britbong comes around bragging about "free healthcare"

#6 to #5 - anon id: 1ebef260

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******* cork it mate. This attitude is why people **** with Americans.

#7 to #6 - anon id: a52c8da7

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Okay, bait aside, I've seen far too many proponents of socialized medicine make the argument that it's necessary to keep people from being driven to measures like these in the events of medical catastrophes, and making references to Breaking Bad ("that would never happen with single payer," etc.).
Does not the fact that this stuff happens anyway remove at least some credibility from that argument?

#11 to #7 - esioh

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>went to texas for the treatment
so they chose against using the single payer method and therefore, it doesnt do much to remove the credibility of the argument

#28 to #11 - dareaper

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Really makes you think... why would they send some to America to be treated for a life threatening condition and go massively into debt? Its almost like America has something britbongs and socialists dont. quality Healthcare that might actually accomplish something. You get what you pay for and socialist healthcare, while good for the sniffles or a broken arm, cant really treat anything else

#33 to #28 - anon id: 3cfd4cb0

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1 part quality 1 part salesmanship. I'm not going to look into this case in detail, but in general people go to America because they need a treatment that hasn't been apporved by the NHS, either because a massive bureaucracy hasn't gotten around to it yet or it doesn't do much but glorified palliative care at a high price, there's been some high profile cases of "we need this American wonder cancer cure drug" that turns out to just lessen the symptoms for half a year or something rather than help treat cancer along with cases where they had to go to America because they were the only ones who could help.

#35 to #28 - esioh

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its almost like if you have the money, you get to choose how to spend it. Also the socialised healthcare being bad is a load of ****, we have it here and I can tell you its ******* good, certainly better than the NHS in England, and do you want to know why the NHS is ****? Becuase Conservative governments have been trying to destroy it since it's creation, had it been left alone (like ours mostly has) it would be a hell of a lot better than it is

#31 to #11 - robuntu

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In the US you die because you can't afford care.
In the UK you die because you're waiting for your appointment.

Different ****, same problem.

#9 to #7 - anon id: ee2b66c4

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I would say it does. Being poor, or being denied on someone else's judgement, either one is equal in result and just as common.

#18 to #6 - tariv

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#8 to #6 - anon id: 7dce47d7

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People can say what they want but they'll never **** with us.

#46 to #5 - horsecrab

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At no point did it claim that this guy began selling pot to pay for his medical bills.

#23 to #5 - shadowkingdr

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what are you on about? they do have free healthcare

#29 to #5 - voltkills

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>Daughter Chloe went to taxes for cancer surgery.

Read you stupid ******* cunt. We have free at the point of delivery healthcare, and its ******* great.

#24 to #5 - SirFail

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She went to texas for surgery i.e they paid for private healthcare and she still died, Whats your point?

#10 - arcamean

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But wait doesn't britistan have universal healthcare?

#12 to #10 - esioh

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they got the treatment in Texas though

#19 to #10 - anon id: 124760b2

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Here you go

''After her diagnosis with the rare form of cancer called rhabdomysarcoma, and being told by doctors at Great Ormond Street that there was no more they could do, the Wrights re-mortgaged their Kent home.

With help from supporters including actor Shaun Williamson, who played Barry in EastEnders,and former cricketer Phil Tufnell, who is married to one of Chloe's cousins, they raised more than £260,000 to send the child 8,000 miles to doctors in Texas for experimental therapy.''

Basically. The state cannot do anything more for the ill child. The parents send their child to Texas for over 250 000 dollars, to attempt an experimental treatment. The treatment fails, then the second child dies following a routine surgery.

The issue with single payer health care, is how ruthless the state is in collecting the money. The couple saw no tax cuts for attempting to get health care elsewhere, as opposed to using the British system which was incapable of helping the child anyway.

#22 to #19 - anon id: 124760b2

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http : / / www . dailymail . co . uk /news/article-2430473/Breaking-Bad-couple-set-4million-drug-factory-young-daughters-died-jailed.html

#21 to #19 - anon id: 124760b2

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#13 to #10 - baconweasel

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They do, but more specialized treatments are severely plagued with long wait times, which is why some people from countries with universal healthcare opt to go to America for treatment. You pay out the ass for it, in exchange for not waiting around to die.

#14 to #13 - anon id: 5431661d

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If you read the bullet points it has nothing to do with medical costs.He started growing weed because he was depressed and turned it into an industry.

#16 to #14 - baconweasel

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And if you read the title it doesn't allude to "massive medical bills" at all?
Maybe he was depressed because his daughter died and he was in debt from medical bills from trying to prevent her death?
Maybe he started growing it for sale to help pay off his "massive medical bills"?

#17 to #16 - anon id: 5431661d

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I actually logged in because I couldn't read the article. First, titles don't mean ****. But you're right about the rest.

#25 - coolmcbob

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Not to be that guy, but isn't it strange how they both admitted to the same crime yet he gets the longer sentence.

#36 to #25 - WutsAtroll

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there are a ton of factors than influence the sentencing that go beyond gender, but to be fair usually men do get worse deals

#26 to #25 - testaburger

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Seems like he's the one doing the growing.
Maybe the wife was just "in on it"

I steal 100 paintings, you steal 1 painting.
We both committed theft, but I'll likely get a longer sentence than you.

#27 to #26 - coolmcbob

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That's what I was kind of figuring. The whole story isn't here and I'm sure it isn't just "muh sexism"

#37 to #26 - WutsAtroll

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you would get charged with 100 counts of theft, I'd get charged with 1. It's not exactly the same. It would be more like I bought all the supplies, I plan every detail of the heist, and I talk you into it while you go along reluctantly and express doubts

#39 to #37 - schwoazapeda

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Na double jeopardy, bro

#40 to #39 - WutsAtroll

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Yeah that's not applicable here at all

#41 to #40 - schwoazapeda

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If you have a good lawyer it is.

#44 to #41 - WutsAtroll

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if you have a client who murders 10 people and you center your case around reducing it to 1 murder charge by arguing double jeopardy, it will be the last case you ever work

#45 to #44 - schwoazapeda

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IF chewbacca lives on endor, you must acquit.
just wanted to bring the joke, I know how double jeopardy works. I've seen futurama ~.~

#32 to #25 - trollmobile

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masterminding a crime is punished harder than taking part in it.

#38 - ihateeverybodytoo

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but Free healthcare though....

#43 to #38 - schwoazapeda

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Won't help if you send your daughter to ******** america.

#48 to #43 - anon id: 65cd8773

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Not knowing the full story but your dumb ass has to go there.

#49 to #48 - schwoazapeda

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>After her diagnosis with the rare form of cancer called rhabdomysarcoma, and being told by doctors at Great Ormond Street that there was no more they could do, the Wrights re-mortgaged their Kent home.
With help from supporters including actor Shaun Williamson, who played Barry in EastEnders,and former cricketer Phil Tufnell, who is married to one of Chloe's cousins, they raised more than £260,000 to send the child 8,000 miles to doctors in Texas for experimental therapy.

You're ******* retarded and don't know the story, anon.

#42 to #38 - nominalgain

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The content specifically mentioned texas

#1 - pristinepanda

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conspiracy to produce cannabis... as though it's some ****** government espionage

#4 to #1 - anon id: 752ae13c

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Its England, they don't have any rights, they're subjects

#30 to #4 - voltkills

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try growing £4 million worth of weed in a US state where its not legal (i.e most of them) and see how well that works out for you.

#2 to #1 - tapeboy

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"Conspiracy" really only needs two people saying "you wanna do something?"

#3 to #2 - pristinepanda

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i gather what it means, I'm just stating that it seems like a hyperbolic title for the crime.

#15 to #1 - anon id: 5431661d

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Conspiracy is just another word for selling drugs in this case. He conspired to sell 4 million dollars worth of weed.

#34 - rektget

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**rektget used "*roll picture*"**
**rektget rolled image**now im wonderering and not trying to be a dick but why did the wife get less years for the same crime.(it isnt even 80% of the years he is in)

#47 to #34 - anon id: 180ff912

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Courts are biased against men.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2430...