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#48 - thatguycrow (08/31/2012) [-]
Suicide is a sin and by committing that sin you would be damning yourself to hell.

I could be wrong, I'm not an expert on religion
#301 to #48 - mrlats (09/01/2012) [-]
than why not YOLO it and "accidently" die
User avatar #264 to #48 - sirmatthew (09/01/2012) [-]
I would say its more because of the unfinished work you still have on earth. from a christian point of view, god didnt put you on the earth to be another clone, you have a point to your life, and killing yourself cuts it short.
User avatar #75 to #48 - proudnerd (08/31/2012) [-]
You're right dependent on the denomination. Catholics believe it is an eternal sin that Jesus' death cannot cleanse. I, as a nondenominational christian, on the other hand, don't believe so.
User avatar #59 to #48 - jellybob (08/31/2012) [-]
You're right, suicide is the equivalent of murder in Christian teaching. Not in the sense that you take another person's life, but that you've taken your own. Many Atheists don't understand the depth of Christian teachings and all to often, Christians are so wrapped up in it's face value that they don't quite understand how to react or defend their position.
Have a nice day :)
#316 to #59 - anon (09/01/2012) [-]
I am murder in Christian teaching and I can confirm this.
#168 to #59 - anon (09/01/2012) [-]
Except he isnt athiest. He is agnostic. He even rips on atheists as well.
User avatar #64 to #59 - thatguycrow (08/31/2012) [-]
You too :)
dont know why you got thumbed down, I brought you back up
#52 to #48 - freddyhollensen (08/31/2012) [-]
Suicide is a real thing, sin is not, and hell is just made up so priests could threaten children not to tell.

I could be wrong, but I'm not.
#60 to #52 - jellybob (08/31/2012) [-]
This is how you sound right now

I could be wrong, but I'm not
User avatar #65 to #60 - freddyhollensen (08/31/2012) [-]
Well now you're just embarrassing yourself, when is the last time you have seen an atheist want to back out of an argument about God... I don't know who've you been talking to, but the only people thinking about getting shoved something down your throat seem to be the Christians IMO.

And you are wrong, and it's easily proven.. go ahead and try and shove your religion down my throat, I'm not even hesitant to tell you openly and honestly that I'm going to tell you what I believe, that you're wrong and why such is.

Seems to me... that if you knew what the **** you where talking about... you wouldn't want to quit before you even got started.
#73 to #65 - proudnerd (08/31/2012) [-]
I'm bored and I've got nothing to do tonight. I'm a Christian and I know what I'm talking about.
User avatar #79 to #73 - freddyhollensen (08/31/2012) [-]
You can't just say... K disprove me, I'm a christian... Okay.. erhm... the earth is round? want to debate that?... also the moon is not made of photons... do you still think mixed fabric and shrimp is the work of Satan and that people who get tattooed does it to defy the will of God.

Some Christians don't believe in heaven, hell and prayer either...

I'm an atheist, my belief concerning the spiritual is simple, it's non existent.

Why don't you tell me what kind of magic your deity does and what superpowers he's attributed with. And I'll do you the favor of not holding you accountable to what the bible actually says. Because I've tried this before, and it ends up with you whining about not all Christians doubt evolution.
User avatar #84 to #79 - proudnerd (09/01/2012) [-]
Well, you've put a lot out there to start with. I'm not sure where you got the idea that all Christians believe the earth is flat and the moon is made of photons, but I don't really see any evidence for that. Deuteronomy was largely for public safety and practically applied the ideas of God in areas that don't really apply now. The mixed fabric thing had to do with vanity (if you can where ugly clothes, then you're not vain), tattoos are vaguely in the same area, with a little bit of public safety because getting a tattoo back then wasnt exactly a sterile operation. But all of that doesn't matter now that Christ paid for those sins with his life.
I care not what some idiot Christians believe in doing or not doing, I am nondenominational and base my beliefs straight out of the Bible.
That's ok with me that you're an atheist, I just think you're wrong and would like to see if I can possibly change your mind. If not, that's fine, it's your life/eternity.
As for "magic" and "superpowers," He does what He wants. He is God, all powerful, and all knowing. I see him more from the "Divine Clockmaker" perspective in that he set everything up in the world, so that he doesn't have to step in very much, and actively works by urging people to do the right thing in their mind. And on evolution, i believe both Creation and Evolution can coexist, I just had this discussion a few minutes ago. Hopefully this link works, never linked a comment before:
User avatar #256 to #84 - biggieboy (09/01/2012) [-]
From what I make from it, that would make you a deist, not a theist. Deist being that there's a God who created everything, and doesn't interfere with his creation. If you follow Christianity (or any other major religion really), God is clearly a theistic one (listens to your prayers, intervenes at moments,...)

And do you mean creationism and evolution, or am I missing something? because the two are not complementary or anything.
User avatar #267 to #256 - sirmatthew (09/01/2012) [-]
"he doesn't have to step in very much" not "not at all"
User avatar #268 to #267 - biggieboy (09/01/2012) [-]
Well then, if he CAN intervene, why doesn't he do it more often? Plenty of places in the world where divine intervention could be really helpful. Millions of people starving, natural disasters killing hundreds of thousands and leaving millions homeless, terrible diseases,...
User avatar #273 to #268 - sirmatthew (09/01/2012) [-]
If that were to happen, where would faith be? and I do think divine intervention has happened from time to time, but the big problems in our world arent pointless and for killing people. you see how people dying and diseases and such spurs people into action, brings people together, and breaks people into tears, which, isnt always a bad thing.
User avatar #274 to #273 - biggieboy (09/01/2012) [-]
Sure, bringing people together and spurring them into action are good, but if he can intervene, why would he let his favorite creation (according to the bible) suffer so much? Not even from what people do to eachother, but things we have little or no control over (like the weather and certain diseases)
User avatar #285 to #274 - sirmatthew (09/01/2012) [-]
Im not sure the exact reason, but i would say theres some underlying point to it all. I might reply again to this later, but im not sure quite how to phrase what im thinking
#68 to #65 - jellybob (08/31/2012) [-]
At what point did I state my intentions of starting a religious debate? You know nothing about me, I could be a hardcore cradle Catholic, an open minded Atheist, a bible belt Christian, a convert from scientology. I only copied your clear bigotry towards what others believe. And as expected, you took the high and mighty approach to try and make yourself feel better. Well, I hope whatever drives you to inflate your ego by putting others down is worked out soon my friend. TA-TA
#54 to #52 - overwatchmd (08/31/2012) [-]
You know what? I've always wondered what would happen if I did this
#53 to #52 - thatguycrow (08/31/2012) [-]
While I believe the same thing as you, it is not our place to insult other people's beliefs by telling them they're wrong or trying to make their beliefs seem stupid. Unless they're bothering other people, don't bother them.
User avatar #63 to #53 - cakefaceify (08/31/2012) [-]
I feel as though it is difficult to find people who share your opinion.
I have loads atheist friends who are far more in-your-face about it than most of the "religious nutjobs" they so ironically preach about...

For the record, I am also atheist.
User avatar #58 to #53 - freddyhollensen (08/31/2012) [-]
If every atheist thought like you... people would still be sacrificing their children to make the crops grow faster.
#62 to #58 - thatguycrow (08/31/2012) [-]
What the **** are you talking about? I'm just saying its not our place to judge people for their beliefs if their beliefs aren't hurting people, and you took that as a sign that I want to sacrifice children for the harvest?
User avatar #72 to #62 - freddyhollensen (08/31/2012) [-]
Have you ever considered that people who actually believe loses their faith all the time, and couldn't be happier about it, they feel they've been cheated and scammed and are now finally set free because someone actually challenged their beliefs.

Respect for nonsense is not doing anybody a favor, you're just reinforcing people's obviously false ideas about how the natural world works... creationism doesn't hurt anybody... until our sun is about to explode and humanity have made not a singly ******* hint of progress because stupidity was revered like it was gold.

What do you tell a parent who says to their children that if they don't pray 5 times and day and believe the earth is 6000 years old, they can't eat candy with Jesus. Think that child is going to archive a high education in biology? They have not been physically harmed in any way, but these false ideas can hardly be healthy for their mental health.

There is no evidence, nor rational pathway for the existence of an afterlife, yet people do all kind of things to please a 2000 year old desert death cult to get a promotion in heaven.
User avatar #269 to #72 - sirmatthew (09/01/2012) [-]
if the sun is going to explode and kill us anyways, then this argument, and nothing we have ever done or will do, will ever mean anything.
User avatar #50 to #48 - ShadeElement (08/31/2012) [-]
A patch thrown in a while ago to cover the original continuity hole.
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