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Pepper Spray, The Truth

 

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#2 - snuffff (12/04/2011) [-]
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#1339 - argonian (12/05/2011) [-]
"Protesters attempted to shout them down"

They're doing it wrong.
#1385 to #1339 - AnGealt (12/05/2011) [-]
From approx 1:21 onwards for a bit it sounds like they are chanting FUS RO DAH
#1072 - Nickutodeath (12/04/2011) [-]
You are not dohvakiin, your voice doesn't do **** against weapons.
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User avatar #1090 to #1072 - sirolimar (12/04/2011) [-]
haha funny **** right here ^_^
#1307 - angusmansg (12/05/2011) [-]
i laughed my ass off when they got sprayed
User avatar #1271 - JktheSk (12/05/2011) [-]
At 1:25, it sounds like they're yelling, "FUS RO DAH! FUS RO DAH! FUS RO DAH!"
User avatar #59 - profarnsworth (12/04/2011) [-]
ive heard better chants from a mentally handicapped kid
User avatar #50 - kumabear (12/04/2011) [-]
The sad thing about all of this is that the protesters are wrong, they are out of their legal right and all broke the law by first detaining the officers and then making a threat (which yes, saying we will let you go, only if you set them free is indeed a threat) Im sorry, but most of these people just want something to scream about, just like the Oscar Grant riots, I'm an American, Im a Californian, and i can tell you, we aren't all super liberal assholes, I myself am a Marine, I hate seeing these protests, they're never peaceful as the protesters believe. In my lifetime I have seen one group of peaceful protesters, they gather in San Francisco, outside of the Chinese Consulate office, they stand silent with signs that say "Free Tibet". Those are peaceful protesters. I personally dislike many of the super liberal people that live in my home town. I have personally been protested against, not only by people I do not know, but also by my own family. Many of my cousins are anti-war, but where I come from people believe this means you must be anti-soldier. I have been in a lot of physical confrontations with "peaceful" protestors. I may be a Marine, I may have been to war, I may have done terrible things, but that does not mean I love killing, that does not mean I am a complete monster, nor a violent psychopath. Im a man, I take care of 14 children and 7 mothers, I never have the thought to harm nor kill them. I am human, so are these cops, so I really don't get anyone calling them monsters or evil, I would fear for myself in said situation, too often "peaceful" protests break down and become incredibly violent, sorry if tl;dr, but for those who did, thank you.
#280 to #50 - cafezhu (12/04/2011) [-]
First of all, the sole purpose of the police is to protest the public. Although pretty little princess in a dressistrative orders from the Chancellor of UC Davis was to remove the protesters' tents and equipment,
"We told them very specifically to do it peacefully, and if there were too many of them not to do it, if the students were aggressive not to do it. And then we told them we also do not want to have another Berkeley." -- Chancellor Katehi.
The UC Davis police defied the given order and first arrested students. Which, in turn triggered the rather aggressive verbal exchanges. If the police first unjustly arrested students, who are innocent, non-violent, who were arrested only to scare away other students, what would you do? what you anyone do? What their fellow protesters did was the most civilized and reasonable considering the circumstance at that time.
I personally doubt your assumption of that whatever police do can be justified. They might not be cold blooded monsters, but consider the reason why these lawful evils at all become policemen, consider also when police force pepper spray elderly woman, a protester's skull was fractured by a baton...
Opinions and believes may vary. Data never lie. Q.E.D., marine.
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User avatar #289 to #50 - starvaggi (12/04/2011) [-]
I respect your opinion, but you are wrong about one thing. Those ARE peaceful protests. They are not hurting anyone. Civil disobedience. Whether they "threaten" the police or not, they never physically harmed anyone, so they are peacefull protesting. All the extreme liberals want (I being torn between a moderate liberal and extreme liberal can speak on behalf of them, I believe) is for nobody to be hurt, killed, or treated unfairly in any situation, and here they are trying to demonstrate that., and what happens?(and do you really think they know that in the eyes of the law that is a threat? I wouldn't interpret it as a threat if I was a police officer. They didn't say that they would hurt them-just that they wouldn't let them leave. If that is taken as a threat, then I have to say I'm disappointed in how over reactive our society really is.)

Police brutality is police brutality. That video did not change my mind on that situation. When I saw the original ones, do you think I didn't assume that they had been told to leave? Of course they have, but they have the right to protest in public, they DON'T need a permit, despite many people who don't know what they're talking about saying that, and they certainly have a right to voice their opinions. Just because there are more of them there than there are of the westboro baptist church protesting funerals doesn't mean we need to treat them any differently. For whatever reason, when the amount of people gets to be too large, we act like they have different rights than a small amount of protestors-but they don't. We are all equal, and that is all the protestors are trying to say.
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User avatar #689 to #557 - starvaggi (12/04/2011) [-]
lol It's their campus how are they trespassing? Those were students. (I mean, they WERE students right? That's what I remember hearing. If they weren't then it was illegal, but if they were I fail to see how it was trespassing.)

And nobody was aiming a gun at anybody like it would be if they were robbing a bank. That's a horrible analogy to make. Saying we will let you leave "if" isn't a threat. They never said how they would "keep" them there. I'm sure they wouldn't even be able to. I understand how it is a stupid statement to make, but I fail to see how it is a threat.
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User avatar #768 to #745 - starvaggi (12/04/2011) [-]
UC Davis is a public school, so there is no owner. So what was the crime again? If a University Student sits on a field on their campus they can't be arrested, but the moment they start voicing opinions while doing so they can be? Are you ******* kidding? That's not illegal at all. Now, while I am beginning to understand your point about them "letting the police leave if..." I still fail to see how this was initially illegal in the first place. It seems to me that, like I said before, this is just a case of people being afraid of large groups of protestors, which is what is really RETARDED here.
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User avatar #1142 to #787 - starvaggi (12/04/2011) [-]
Well I came here to laugh too, but instead I see this **** on the ******* front page. For a website filled with atheists and science geeks we are REALLY ******* conservative.
User avatar #1426 to #1142 - mcdonaldscupinc (12/05/2011) [-]
Starvaggi i just have to thumb you down, cause you are a ******* moron.
User avatar #1448 to #1426 - starvaggi (12/05/2011) [-]
Well that was rude. I wasn't even arguing with you but all right have your own opinion of me. Care to tell me why? I've been arguin with a lot of people I might as well do so with another.
User avatar #1479 to #1448 - mcdonaldscupinc (12/05/2011) [-]
They didnt have the right to put up tents, they were asked to leave, there were no excessive force only the force needed to get them the hell out of the way. I know the system in USA is faulty like a tower of cards. But in this case the police did nothing wrong. They acted stupid and got burned for doing it. Students do not decide who the police can arrest or not. You cant deny the police to leave with the persons they have arrested, if you do you are just plain stupid.
Not from USA myself, im typing all this from Norway, from a rich family, a rich country and i probably will never have a problem with cash in my entire life. I do agree that the world economics are a ****** up system controlled by way to few people, and america need change, but disrupting police work is not the way to do it. OWS have protested in Oslo aswell they didnt do stupid things and they didnt get burned.
User avatar #1494 to #1479 - starvaggi (12/05/2011) [-]
Well all right. I fully understand what you said and very much agree with the second half.

Here's the problem I have with the first half: I really don't think the pepper spray was necessary. The police clearly could have gone over them, they were sitting down and not attacking them. The pepper spray is an example of police brutality, which has gone up exponentially in the US in the past decade.
User avatar #1508 to #1494 - mcdonaldscupinc (12/05/2011) [-]
You can try to pull people in cuffs over other protesters that demand that you set them free, i dont think that will end very well, and that would mean they would have to move them by force, something they can charge as assault. THey had warnings and they still didnt move, they saw it as a bad joke and that the police will never do anything. They were shaking their pepper spray for like half a minute. I would see it as police brutality if the pepper spray came from nowhere and they didnt need to disperse the crowd, which they had to do. To get the arrested people out.
User avatar #1561 to #289 - kumabear (12/05/2011) [-]
no one was ever hurt huh? read this my friend
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings
#606 to #50 - blargchikahonkhonk ONLINE (12/04/2011) [-]
they say "its our university" no its not you just pay to go there they can get rid of you at any time
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User avatar #1296 - blueblob (12/05/2011) [-]
Thank you for posting this OP. This had made me realise how misinformed I was. I realise this man had given more than enough warnings, how the protesters were just being dam retarded and how he was only doing his job. I feel bad that this man's actions had been twisted and smeared to make him look like a monster when in fact, the protesters should be called out for the acts they actually did. Time to go thank the police officer I see for doing a good job...
User avatar #1322 to #1296 - geckosean (12/05/2011) [-]
HEAR HEAR
#1117 - kapurass (12/04/2011) [-]
they had every right to protest, but once they started cornering the police then they became a bunch of hostile morons. if you want to protest, be as civilized as you can be
they had every right to protest, but once they started cornering the police then they became a bunch of hostile morons. if you want to protest, be as civilized as you can be
#513 - NTC (12/04/2011) [-]
#1208 to #513 - iliketities (12/05/2011) [-]
that was the same thing a was saying i was like " ******* christ either shoot them with the paint ball gun or pepper spray them already"
User avatar #1189 to #513 - cfeuer (12/05/2011) [-]
exactly. i was lied to and told "they were just sitting there with a peaceful protest"

it was left out that they argued with the police, interfered with the police(the tents), insulted the police, and then ensnared the police.....

and to top it off the only sprayed those who had several MORE warnings than the rest. Go police!
User avatar #1175 to #513 - Keat ONLINE (12/04/2011) [-]
I was hoping they'd pop off a few paint balls.
User avatar #29 - bakinboy (12/04/2011) [-]
this is not my watering can.. these arent my lilacs...
#1327 - fishcanfly (12/05/2011) [-]
My face for the first 13 minutes
#1229 - aerosol (12/05/2011) [-]
Those panzies...
They lost their **** when they were about to be pepper sprayed and they equated that with shooting children?
Mother ****** , Johnny Knoxville did that for fun and he took it like a champ. I'd like to see how those protesters fare in Egypt where the real protesting happens.
User avatar #935 - muzzleloader (12/04/2011) [-]
I might be biased, since the only actual "run-ins" I've ever had with the police have been when I've needed to call them, so I see the good they do over the bad things others see more.
But, honestly? They're ******* police officers. You don't hold them hostage, telling them to release your friends. They can't just say, "oh, you're yelling in unison at us? I guess we should go against orders and let them kiddies go!" They're just doing their job! Even I could see how troubled the police officer who kept talking to the protesters was; he obviously didn't WANT to use pepper spray on them, and none of them did, it was the officers that came in as back up, because they had to quite literally rescue a large number of officers who were doing actually very well by not using any force, which is something that many people claim is something the police do often.

I understand protesters have their rights, and they were sticking to it. But I also understand, after being calmed down from a really traumatic experience from an officer I honestly consider a hero now, why some of them choose their jobs; and pepper spray is one of the smaller of things they could have used; in the past protesters were beat with night sticks, and even shot. Peaceful protests are fine. But when you're told you're going to be sprayed with pepper spray, acknowledge it (which they did, by telling everyone to prepare for it), while doing nothing to prevent it, then you just have to accept the consequences.

No one was fully right in the situation, but the police were doing their job. I don't understand why this is such an issue.
User avatar #1454 to #935 - starvaggi (12/05/2011) [-]
You are the least biased person fgrom here, and the only one who I think didn't outright insult the protestors.

THANK YOU.
User avatar #1514 to #1454 - muzzleloader (12/05/2011) [-]
Really? Well, that's good. (:

I really don't mind protesters. It's just, in this particular case, I'm not really on their side...

User avatar #1003 to #935 - masterpig (12/04/2011) [-]
they seem to think that just because they are not violent that they are peaceful its not that black and white they basically imprisoned officers they deserved what happened
User avatar #1028 to #1003 - muzzleloader (12/04/2011) [-]
I agree, it was certainly called for. I'm really iffy with protesters; I fully agree that they have a right to say what they believe, but they need to understand their grounds, and if they're going to do something like that, then they shouldn't be so appalled when the punishment they were warned about is actually carried through with.

And for college student protesters to call themselves children in order to guilt the officers because they thought they could get away with breaking the law like that is just beyond me.
User avatar #952 to #935 - betterguygreg (12/04/2011) [-]
You sir. are recieving a medal.
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User avatar #986 to #967 - muzzleloader (12/04/2011) [-]
Well, I think it's similar to the military. My dad has been in since he was 18, so nearly everyone I know is military, but none of them are big on guns, or killing, or have acted without good reason. (And honestly, my dad just got back from being overseas and saw next to no action.)

But, because of the people who join in order to learn how to fight, and to be able to kill people, they give them a bad name because they're the ones who are given attention, and it's pointed out that they're in the military. (I even knew a kid whose dream it was to join the army because "he wants to see blood splatter.")

The cops who go overboard on criminals are the ones who are noticed, and yet no one realizes that there are WAY more that aren't even mentioned, simply because they do their job well. Like the cop that helped me; I was terrified to call my parents because I was afraid they'd call me stupid, and he stopped everything he was doing to tell me it wasn't my fault, and made me feel better than anyone else did with the whole thing.

Hah, I love cops.

So, it just kind of irks me when people stereotype them, I suppose...
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#305 - zebrapony (12/04/2011) [-]
<--- The protesters.
User avatar #282 - tastypaste (12/04/2011) [-]
I find it pretty funny how the protesters think they have control over whether or not the police could leave
User avatar #93 - bonjangles (12/04/2011) [-]
What I heard through the whole video:

OWS **** AND **** BLAH BLAH BLAH

WE ARE PEACEFUL

YOU CANT DO THIS

**** DA PO-LEESE

YOU MUST STAY

GIVE US BACK OUR STUDENTS

DONT PEPPER SPRAY US OH NOESSSS

YOU CAN GO, YOU CAN GO


I ******* laughed my ass off when they were all chanting you can go. Police just won.

#1250 to #93 - lighttell (12/05/2011) [-]
i loled at the one logical asain guy saying stop after they said " **** da police"
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