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#127 - Worry about me ? Thank you , kind stranger. N…  [+] (3 new replies) 05/15/2016 on World War Two Proganda... 0
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#130 - liero (05/15/2016) [-]
Tbh ive had both a "nazi" redpiller fedora past and a spineless SJW past. nazis (especially FJers) like to believe that im a "liberal bernie-loving cuck muslim JIDF" even though im not even in the US, and for daring to point out that sitting around raging at legitimately racist, sexist, misogynistic and vile crap that /pol/ fabricates is stupid as shite, and isn't much more different than what tumblr does.

And SJWs like to believe that im this evil hitler-loving nazi white supremacist jerkoff even though im technically latino and my circle of friends and a few former relationships is diverse as all hell, mostly for the same reasons that the FJ nazi circlejerkers hate me, except it's social justice. i don't buy into "social justice".

and most recently i was called a racist for not wanting europe to let in hundreds of thousands of faux-syrian refugees, not just because they're economic immigrants and only come to live on benefits, but because they're actively taking up spaces for people that actually need help. people from south america, mexican refugees who escape drug cartel persecution, you name it.

such is the struggle of being in the frickin center, neither leaning left or right
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#131 - zielscheibe (05/15/2016) [-]
Same here , it is somewhat strange , but not unexpected to see you writing this right now.

I overcame my Nazi past - the Nazi ideas were passed down to me because of the bitterness and hatred my grandfather harbored all these years. He took part in the war and never changed his ways. So he tought the ideas to ne very early on.

I have become liberal to a certain degree but want to remain as unbiased as i can. the middle ground , yeah... most people claim you must choos one side.

But i refuse to believe that. How can we make a fair and good policy for all kinds of people if we reject different aspects of political ideas.

And i agree with you on the refugee thing asweel. I am all for helping peopel in need - but we must not surrender to criminal invaders or fake refugees. We have to defend our nations and our people from further harm. And yet still find a way to help as many suffering people as we can

But that implys that there are limits. We can not heal the world all alone. Or just within a few short years. We would have to develope a long term solution for all the 3rd world countires to get there. And an agreement on the reproduction cycle of humans to be limited or controlled in some way. We are getting way to many for our smal planet.

All this should be open for honest and straight forward debate. Not hiding behind propaganda , political parties or meaningless wordgames. We know the reasons why peopel suffe. We know how to tackle these problems.

Than again , there are problems that can not be resolved in a civilized way - if not for the people involved , willing to undergo some change- i am talking about radical Islam ofcourse. It is very hard to talk sense and reason with religious fanatics.

You can try to debate them as much as you want . If they refuse to listen and still keep on killing in the name of a god- a good that can not be held responsible or killed by mere humans - what chances of convincing them to change do we have ?

I know that it is possible , for i have enough muslim friends and co-workers that changed. They are not radical or religious in a way that would harm others. Religion should be a private thing and removed from school or public service buildings.
Religion is not bad , i know good religious people and accept their faith. Why bother trying to talk them out of it or badmouth their ideas ? As long as they are happy and nobody get's hurt or insulted.

yet - we can clearly see that Islam is ... well .. kind of a complicated case here.

So , i pass my time shitposting - playing with words to get some reaction out of people ( and look - we are writing , aren't we ? )

To be completely honest - i doubt a lot. I doubt myself and my smarts just as much as i doubt my knowledge and motivations at time. I know i have a good life and acchieved something in life. I have my true and loyal friends - my family and some good work to pay me well. Well enough to travel the world and meet new peopel in exotic new places , with different culture and customs.

So i pretty much enjoy my life- yet it kind of bothers me , every time i see some new shit like Nestle and the water wars - The Rothshilds using their poer to fuel war. The injustice of the whole system and how much like livestock we seem to live out our modern lives today.

Forced into work and this system from the very beginning - it is not like there was an option to not be part of the monetary system to me. No matter how that other option would have looked like.

the only thing left would be leaving society - been branded a failure and looser - and not been able to live free after all. Wherever you go. There are borders , laws and rulers. Nothing against just laws... but some of them are not just.

That's way of late , i kind of like the Hippie ideas of old. The revolutionary songs and ideas...
But is it all just me been ungreatful and delusional - or is it real ?
Whom to ask this queation ?
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#245 - liero (05/15/2016) [-]
my own nazi redpiller phase arguably came after the SJW phase, when i was ashamed of being of european descent and being baptized in a catholic church, all that stuff, and for having lighter skin.. the "nazi" phase was passed on to me in my early teens by a guy who became, and still is one of my best friends.

(it's weird tho, cause it's like, my "ultra-tolerant" views kinda passed on to him and vice-versa, he's now a really calm and mellow dude.. significantly different than how he was before)

i've had that "yu must choose a side!!!!!1" bullshit pushed on me time after time, usually by clueless americans who don't realize that most other countries don't have a 2 party system.. but also from people of my own country, i just tell them "nah."


im allowed to be as conservative and liberal as i want, i never really subscribe to one branch.. i personally think that's kinda shooting oneself in the foot.


as for muslims, hell yeah they're a problem. i'm also for helping people in need, and those that are caught up in that ultraviolent war deserve every help they can get, man, but deluding oneself to believe that a large portion of those that come to europe AREN'T radicalized or won't cause future problems, be them social or economic, is just.. it's just as stupid as generalizing every single immigrant that ever comes in.


and there's even a difference between the older generation of refugees, those that came in the 70s and 80s were people with superior degrees, with completely different cultures than those you see in the middle east today, and this is why i personally believe younger generation of muslims (especially from middle east) won't ever be as compatible in our society as their parents or grandparents were.


also, not to mention that some places in europe now "discriminate" between refugees.. a lot will straight out deny refugees from colombia, brazil, mexico.. parts of asia that are less "war-torn" due to being afraid of being accused of "islamophobia".

it's sad, man. i know a lot of americans don't like mexican immigrants but they aren't nearly as problematic or unwilling to conform to american society as over half of all middle easterners are to european societies.

i'd gladly accept more mexicans, their culture isn't unlike south european culture.. and they work, rather than claim benefits all the time..

rant
#124 - It is .. funny i agree but it could be seen as a sta… 05/15/2016 on World War Two Proganda... 0
#122 - YES - it was , there is a hell lot of eagles involved in patri…  [+] (3 new replies) 05/15/2016 on World War Two Proganda... 0
#123 - funnyhat (05/15/2016) [-]
yeah, it just seemed funny to me that you would depict an eagle tearing the nazi flag in an anti-nazi propaganda, when the nazi symbol is an eagle
#220 - hairydawg (05/15/2016) [-]
It's reference to Mexico's actual flag. Also, like Germany and many other countries, the golden eagle is the national bird of Mexico.
#124 - zielscheibe (05/15/2016) [-]
It is .. funny i agree

but it could be seen as a statement aswell - that the eagle does not belong to the Nazi ideas alone.

Or some metaphor like that. Maybe they just didnot give a damn and were all * oh , you wanna have eagles on your propaganda stuff ,well we got dem eagles in mexico aswell - and our eagles say * eat shit Adolf !! *
#120 - Sure , if you say so , Mr. Undertale avatar. Most peo…  [+] (5 new replies) 05/15/2016 on World War Two Proganda... -2
#125 - liero (05/15/2016) [-]
i actually asked if you were aspergers out of worry rather than rage or anger cause it takes a good amount of energy at least for many people to write those walls of texts and i thought maybe you were having a meltdown i've seen it happen with a friend of mine he is aspie


about dealing with shitposters, my reactions are self explanatory pic related hell, look at how this convo turned out

#127 - zielscheibe (05/15/2016) [-]
Worry about me ? Thank you , kind stranger.

No , i have been on the internet for far to long i guess.

Writing huge walls of text is just another thing to do for me.

I have a Nazi past ( 12 years ago ) and had to overcome my own propaganda based ideas with a lot of conflict and help from others. But now that i know how they work , i can always use that to shitpost like a dyslexic retard on cocain.

I try my best to let people know and see that i am trolling and not actually believing the stuff - you know the debate about how many people on FJ really are racist and how many of them are just trolling or doing it for shit's and giggles ?

Just wanted to make sure people know where i stand. And how to ridicule something in a better way , than unsing Anime and over the edge-edgy comments.

It is like using cabaret like comedy. You put on an act.
I admit , it is not the best shitposting and people will call you retard and edgelord non the less... but what gives. I had fun and killed time.

oh , and thanks for the friends request - * look at how this convo turned out * indeed

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#130 - liero (05/15/2016) [-]
Tbh ive had both a "nazi" redpiller fedora past and a spineless SJW past. nazis (especially FJers) like to believe that im a "liberal bernie-loving cuck muslim JIDF" even though im not even in the US, and for daring to point out that sitting around raging at legitimately racist, sexist, misogynistic and vile crap that /pol/ fabricates is stupid as shite, and isn't much more different than what tumblr does.

And SJWs like to believe that im this evil hitler-loving nazi white supremacist jerkoff even though im technically latino and my circle of friends and a few former relationships is diverse as all hell, mostly for the same reasons that the FJ nazi circlejerkers hate me, except it's social justice. i don't buy into "social justice".

and most recently i was called a racist for not wanting europe to let in hundreds of thousands of faux-syrian refugees, not just because they're economic immigrants and only come to live on benefits, but because they're actively taking up spaces for people that actually need help. people from south america, mexican refugees who escape drug cartel persecution, you name it.

such is the struggle of being in the frickin center, neither leaning left or right
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#131 - zielscheibe (05/15/2016) [-]
Same here , it is somewhat strange , but not unexpected to see you writing this right now.

I overcame my Nazi past - the Nazi ideas were passed down to me because of the bitterness and hatred my grandfather harbored all these years. He took part in the war and never changed his ways. So he tought the ideas to ne very early on.

I have become liberal to a certain degree but want to remain as unbiased as i can. the middle ground , yeah... most people claim you must choos one side.

But i refuse to believe that. How can we make a fair and good policy for all kinds of people if we reject different aspects of political ideas.

And i agree with you on the refugee thing asweel. I am all for helping peopel in need - but we must not surrender to criminal invaders or fake refugees. We have to defend our nations and our people from further harm. And yet still find a way to help as many suffering people as we can

But that implys that there are limits. We can not heal the world all alone. Or just within a few short years. We would have to develope a long term solution for all the 3rd world countires to get there. And an agreement on the reproduction cycle of humans to be limited or controlled in some way. We are getting way to many for our smal planet.

All this should be open for honest and straight forward debate. Not hiding behind propaganda , political parties or meaningless wordgames. We know the reasons why peopel suffe. We know how to tackle these problems.

Than again , there are problems that can not be resolved in a civilized way - if not for the people involved , willing to undergo some change- i am talking about radical Islam ofcourse. It is very hard to talk sense and reason with religious fanatics.

You can try to debate them as much as you want . If they refuse to listen and still keep on killing in the name of a god- a good that can not be held responsible or killed by mere humans - what chances of convincing them to change do we have ?

I know that it is possible , for i have enough muslim friends and co-workers that changed. They are not radical or religious in a way that would harm others. Religion should be a private thing and removed from school or public service buildings.
Religion is not bad , i know good religious people and accept their faith. Why bother trying to talk them out of it or badmouth their ideas ? As long as they are happy and nobody get's hurt or insulted.

yet - we can clearly see that Islam is ... well .. kind of a complicated case here.

So , i pass my time shitposting - playing with words to get some reaction out of people ( and look - we are writing , aren't we ? )

To be completely honest - i doubt a lot. I doubt myself and my smarts just as much as i doubt my knowledge and motivations at time. I know i have a good life and acchieved something in life. I have my true and loyal friends - my family and some good work to pay me well. Well enough to travel the world and meet new peopel in exotic new places , with different culture and customs.

So i pretty much enjoy my life- yet it kind of bothers me , every time i see some new shit like Nestle and the water wars - The Rothshilds using their poer to fuel war. The injustice of the whole system and how much like livestock we seem to live out our modern lives today.

Forced into work and this system from the very beginning - it is not like there was an option to not be part of the monetary system to me. No matter how that other option would have looked like.

the only thing left would be leaving society - been branded a failure and looser - and not been able to live free after all. Wherever you go. There are borders , laws and rulers. Nothing against just laws... but some of them are not just.

That's way of late , i kind of like the Hippie ideas of old. The revolutionary songs and ideas...
But is it all just me been ungreatful and delusional - or is it real ?
Whom to ask this queation ?
User avatar
#245 - liero (05/15/2016) [-]
my own nazi redpiller phase arguably came after the SJW phase, when i was ashamed of being of european descent and being baptized in a catholic church, all that stuff, and for having lighter skin.. the "nazi" phase was passed on to me in my early teens by a guy who became, and still is one of my best friends.

(it's weird tho, cause it's like, my "ultra-tolerant" views kinda passed on to him and vice-versa, he's now a really calm and mellow dude.. significantly different than how he was before)

i've had that "yu must choose a side!!!!!1" bullshit pushed on me time after time, usually by clueless americans who don't realize that most other countries don't have a 2 party system.. but also from people of my own country, i just tell them "nah."


im allowed to be as conservative and liberal as i want, i never really subscribe to one branch.. i personally think that's kinda shooting oneself in the foot.


as for muslims, hell yeah they're a problem. i'm also for helping people in need, and those that are caught up in that ultraviolent war deserve every help they can get, man, but deluding oneself to believe that a large portion of those that come to europe AREN'T radicalized or won't cause future problems, be them social or economic, is just.. it's just as stupid as generalizing every single immigrant that ever comes in.


and there's even a difference between the older generation of refugees, those that came in the 70s and 80s were people with superior degrees, with completely different cultures than those you see in the middle east today, and this is why i personally believe younger generation of muslims (especially from middle east) won't ever be as compatible in our society as their parents or grandparents were.


also, not to mention that some places in europe now "discriminate" between refugees.. a lot will straight out deny refugees from colombia, brazil, mexico.. parts of asia that are less "war-torn" due to being afraid of being accused of "islamophobia".

it's sad, man. i know a lot of americans don't like mexican immigrants but they aren't nearly as problematic or unwilling to conform to american society as over half of all middle easterners are to european societies.

i'd gladly accept more mexicans, their culture isn't unlike south european culture.. and they work, rather than claim benefits all the time..

rant
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#119 - liero (05/15/2016) [-]
i actually only did one run of the game, it's ok. not nearly as into it as most people who played it
#120 - zielscheibe (05/15/2016) [-]
Sure , if you say so , Mr. Undertale avatar.

Most people are crazy about that game and way into it , but certainly not you .. .you only choose to make it your avatar because ..... ?

calm your tits man , you should know by now that i am just pulling your leg here i do not want to rally insult you - but i started this shit to trol land you walked right into it.
And besides , I made one run aswell and liked Undertale very much the best way you deal with trolls or shitposters is to shitpost or just not react at all you know taht right ?

All the nazi shit i used above is without base - the current problems of the world i used as arguments are not the Allies fault alone. And the 3. reich would have not made the world a better place in any way. Even thou some of the problems i listed are real.

I was just looking for some complete retardlevel-rage-shitposting here
#125 - liero (05/15/2016) [-]
i actually asked if you were aspergers out of worry rather than rage or anger cause it takes a good amount of energy at least for many people to write those walls of texts and i thought maybe you were having a meltdown i've seen it happen with a friend of mine he is aspie


about dealing with shitposters, my reactions are self explanatory pic related hell, look at how this convo turned out

#127 - zielscheibe (05/15/2016) [-]
Worry about me ? Thank you , kind stranger.

No , i have been on the internet for far to long i guess.

Writing huge walls of text is just another thing to do for me.

I have a Nazi past ( 12 years ago ) and had to overcome my own propaganda based ideas with a lot of conflict and help from others. But now that i know how they work , i can always use that to shitpost like a dyslexic retard on cocain.

I try my best to let people know and see that i am trolling and not actually believing the stuff - you know the debate about how many people on FJ really are racist and how many of them are just trolling or doing it for shit's and giggles ?

Just wanted to make sure people know where i stand. And how to ridicule something in a better way , than unsing Anime and over the edge-edgy comments.

It is like using cabaret like comedy. You put on an act.
I admit , it is not the best shitposting and people will call you retard and edgelord non the less... but what gives. I had fun and killed time.

oh , and thanks for the friends request - * look at how this convo turned out * indeed

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#130 - liero (05/15/2016) [-]
Tbh ive had both a "nazi" redpiller fedora past and a spineless SJW past. nazis (especially FJers) like to believe that im a "liberal bernie-loving cuck muslim JIDF" even though im not even in the US, and for daring to point out that sitting around raging at legitimately racist, sexist, misogynistic and vile crap that /pol/ fabricates is stupid as shite, and isn't much more different than what tumblr does.

And SJWs like to believe that im this evil hitler-loving nazi white supremacist jerkoff even though im technically latino and my circle of friends and a few former relationships is diverse as all hell, mostly for the same reasons that the FJ nazi circlejerkers hate me, except it's social justice. i don't buy into "social justice".

and most recently i was called a racist for not wanting europe to let in hundreds of thousands of faux-syrian refugees, not just because they're economic immigrants and only come to live on benefits, but because they're actively taking up spaces for people that actually need help. people from south america, mexican refugees who escape drug cartel persecution, you name it.

such is the struggle of being in the frickin center, neither leaning left or right
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#131 - zielscheibe (05/15/2016) [-]
Same here , it is somewhat strange , but not unexpected to see you writing this right now.

I overcame my Nazi past - the Nazi ideas were passed down to me because of the bitterness and hatred my grandfather harbored all these years. He took part in the war and never changed his ways. So he tought the ideas to ne very early on.

I have become liberal to a certain degree but want to remain as unbiased as i can. the middle ground , yeah... most people claim you must choos one side.

But i refuse to believe that. How can we make a fair and good policy for all kinds of people if we reject different aspects of political ideas.

And i agree with you on the refugee thing asweel. I am all for helping peopel in need - but we must not surrender to criminal invaders or fake refugees. We have to defend our nations and our people from further harm. And yet still find a way to help as many suffering people as we can

But that implys that there are limits. We can not heal the world all alone. Or just within a few short years. We would have to develope a long term solution for all the 3rd world countires to get there. And an agreement on the reproduction cycle of humans to be limited or controlled in some way. We are getting way to many for our smal planet.

All this should be open for honest and straight forward debate. Not hiding behind propaganda , political parties or meaningless wordgames. We know the reasons why peopel suffe. We know how to tackle these problems.

Than again , there are problems that can not be resolved in a civilized way - if not for the people involved , willing to undergo some change- i am talking about radical Islam ofcourse. It is very hard to talk sense and reason with religious fanatics.

You can try to debate them as much as you want . If they refuse to listen and still keep on killing in the name of a god- a good that can not be held responsible or killed by mere humans - what chances of convincing them to change do we have ?

I know that it is possible , for i have enough muslim friends and co-workers that changed. They are not radical or religious in a way that would harm others. Religion should be a private thing and removed from school or public service buildings.
Religion is not bad , i know good religious people and accept their faith. Why bother trying to talk them out of it or badmouth their ideas ? As long as they are happy and nobody get's hurt or insulted.

yet - we can clearly see that Islam is ... well .. kind of a complicated case here.

So , i pass my time shitposting - playing with words to get some reaction out of people ( and look - we are writing , aren't we ? )

To be completely honest - i doubt a lot. I doubt myself and my smarts just as much as i doubt my knowledge and motivations at time. I know i have a good life and acchieved something in life. I have my true and loyal friends - my family and some good work to pay me well. Well enough to travel the world and meet new peopel in exotic new places , with different culture and customs.

So i pretty much enjoy my life- yet it kind of bothers me , every time i see some new shit like Nestle and the water wars - The Rothshilds using their poer to fuel war. The injustice of the whole system and how much like livestock we seem to live out our modern lives today.

Forced into work and this system from the very beginning - it is not like there was an option to not be part of the monetary system to me. No matter how that other option would have looked like.

the only thing left would be leaving society - been branded a failure and looser - and not been able to live free after all. Wherever you go. There are borders , laws and rulers. Nothing against just laws... but some of them are not just.

That's way of late , i kind of like the Hippie ideas of old. The revolutionary songs and ideas...
But is it all just me been ungreatful and delusional - or is it real ?
Whom to ask this queation ?
User avatar
#245 - liero (05/15/2016) [-]
my own nazi redpiller phase arguably came after the SJW phase, when i was ashamed of being of european descent and being baptized in a catholic church, all that stuff, and for having lighter skin.. the "nazi" phase was passed on to me in my early teens by a guy who became, and still is one of my best friends.

(it's weird tho, cause it's like, my "ultra-tolerant" views kinda passed on to him and vice-versa, he's now a really calm and mellow dude.. significantly different than how he was before)

i've had that "yu must choose a side!!!!!1" bullshit pushed on me time after time, usually by clueless americans who don't realize that most other countries don't have a 2 party system.. but also from people of my own country, i just tell them "nah."


im allowed to be as conservative and liberal as i want, i never really subscribe to one branch.. i personally think that's kinda shooting oneself in the foot.


as for muslims, hell yeah they're a problem. i'm also for helping people in need, and those that are caught up in that ultraviolent war deserve every help they can get, man, but deluding oneself to believe that a large portion of those that come to europe AREN'T radicalized or won't cause future problems, be them social or economic, is just.. it's just as stupid as generalizing every single immigrant that ever comes in.


and there's even a difference between the older generation of refugees, those that came in the 70s and 80s were people with superior degrees, with completely different cultures than those you see in the middle east today, and this is why i personally believe younger generation of muslims (especially from middle east) won't ever be as compatible in our society as their parents or grandparents were.


also, not to mention that some places in europe now "discriminate" between refugees.. a lot will straight out deny refugees from colombia, brazil, mexico.. parts of asia that are less "war-torn" due to being afraid of being accused of "islamophobia".

it's sad, man. i know a lot of americans don't like mexican immigrants but they aren't nearly as problematic or unwilling to conform to american society as over half of all middle easterners are to european societies.

i'd gladly accept more mexicans, their culture isn't unlike south european culture.. and they work, rather than claim benefits all the time..

rant
#114 - TRUE ! And i took all that into account - But who i… 05/15/2016 on World War Two Proganda... +6
#111 - Well , why not go ahead and look it up on the internet and pos… 05/15/2016 on World War Two Proganda... +2
#110 - indeed it is - you got me 05/15/2016 on World War Two Proganda... 0
#108 - > Posting political arguments on FJ in hopes of a real a…  [+] (2 new replies) 05/15/2016 on World War Two Proganda... -1
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#109 - megakillerx (05/15/2016) [-]
That's a whole lot of justifying for being a edge lord.
#110 - zielscheibe (05/15/2016) [-]
indeed it is - you got me
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#107 - megakillerx (05/15/2016) [-]
Just Saying, your agruments would have a lot more credit if you didn't post shitty anime gifs like a normal person.
#108 - zielscheibe (05/15/2016) [-]

> Posting political arguments on FJ in hopes of a real and civilized conversation
> still thinking someone will care for a second or really take it to heart.

I do think , you get more people to look at what you wrote , if you get them mad or laughing.

Try make people laugh whilst you hand them a bucked full of shit and ask them to look for their own reflection within. AND NOT BEEN CALLED EDGELORD !

If i go for full frontal edgelord+animuface+triggerpulling - people will call me an edgelord and rage .

But they might want to argue against me , just to shut a faggot down.
In wich case i either end up shitposting some more or they end up thinking about the arguments to debunk them

Best outcome would be some witty user playing along and using other Hellsing Characters to create a funny conversation.

Because propaganda posters on FJ - is neither funny nor junk.
It is just propaganda.

And i know how to engage in retarded debate time with Nazis and Liberals
So i gave it a try

AND LOOK !

You took your time after just 2 comments to talk to me and tell me how my arguments would have more credit * if you didn't post shitty anime gifs *

wich implies to me that you looked at said arguments and that you have an opinion

Can you see the huge mission accomplished sight above the anime face now ?

i hope this makes sense to you
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#109 - megakillerx (05/15/2016) [-]
That's a whole lot of justifying for being a edge lord.
#110 - zielscheibe (05/15/2016) [-]
indeed it is - you got me