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#47 - I don't believe there's much to misinterpret... 7 hours ago on My new Bae +5
#39 - well the declaration seems pretty normal, the whole evil plot …  [+] (1 new reply) 10/18/2014 on So much freedom 0
User avatar #42 - lotengo (10/18/2014) [-]
I think he was referring to a post like this one. As soon as i saw this part i just knew somebody would make murica content out of this.
#165 - oh and I switched to BM and this is still the case. 10/16/2014 on It happened 0
#163 - idk who thought we had it made, but yea I went from undeniably… 10/16/2014 on It happened 0
#159 - it tickles now in comparison to what it did do. torn between m…  [+] (3 new replies) 10/16/2014 on It happened 0
User avatar #161 - Tyranitar (10/16/2014) [-]
I know they wanted to make you require less abilities, but I've gone from having a whole system of what to use and when, to spamming Arcane Shot until Kill Command comes off cd. People tell me hunters had it made this patch, but I'm barely doing 2/3s the damage I used to.
#165 - zenethe (10/16/2014) [-]
oh and I switched to BM and this is still the case.
#163 - zenethe (10/16/2014) [-]
idk who thought we had it made, but yea I went from undeniably my guild's top DPS, no one else came within 20k of me any fight, to now being 4th, only ahead of the other hunters... I have the highest ilvl in the guild too
#155 - Survival hunter here... crying... crying so ******* hard.  [+] (5 new replies) 10/16/2014 on It happened 0
User avatar #157 - Tyranitar (10/16/2014) [-]
At least you got to keep Serpent Sting, brah.
#159 - zenethe (10/16/2014) [-]
it tickles now in comparison to what it did do. torn between murder of crows and stampede, no rapid fire, kill shot is kill... I press 3 buttons now and do the worst DPS of all classes and specs
User avatar #161 - Tyranitar (10/16/2014) [-]
I know they wanted to make you require less abilities, but I've gone from having a whole system of what to use and when, to spamming Arcane Shot until Kill Command comes off cd. People tell me hunters had it made this patch, but I'm barely doing 2/3s the damage I used to.
#165 - zenethe (10/16/2014) [-]
oh and I switched to BM and this is still the case.
#163 - zenethe (10/16/2014) [-]
idk who thought we had it made, but yea I went from undeniably my guild's top DPS, no one else came within 20k of me any fight, to now being 4th, only ahead of the other hunters... I have the highest ilvl in the guild too
#87 - It's a ******* novel, but **** man w… 10/14/2014 on Demigods Subterfuge +1
#283 - Nobody had mentioned anything for several hours while it…  [+] (1 new reply) 09/29/2014 on Morbid pictures comp 0
User avatar #284 - elcreepo (09/29/2014) [-]
Oh, well maybe nobody read it for several hours. I dunno I was sleeping
#230 - I don't think many people caught just how "red flag"…  [+] (3 new replies) 09/29/2014 on Morbid pictures comp +15
User avatar #279 - elcreepo (09/29/2014) [-]
It really wasn't that subtle

Look at my user name ffs
#283 - zenethe (09/29/2014) [-]
Nobody had mentioned anything for several hours while it was posted.
User avatar #284 - elcreepo (09/29/2014) [-]
Oh, well maybe nobody read it for several hours. I dunno I was sleeping
#140 - it's a decent movie if you don't pay attention to that huuuuuu…  [+] (27 new replies) 09/28/2014 on Interesting Facts +16
User avatar #238 - therealtjthemedic (09/28/2014) [-]
Also the gravity on the russian station, the fact that the asteroid was big enough to have substantial gravity, and that a shuttle flew all the way to an asteroid.
User avatar #165 - kaylakrusifix (09/28/2014) [-]
You best not be calling Michael Clarke Duncan "that one guy that was john coffee in the green mile" motherfucker.
#164 - rdobet (09/28/2014) [-]
The one good explanation I heard for it is that, for the astronaut crew, not much experience was needed since they weren't going that far out and they had other crew members who were trained as astronauts to help them, so, for the astronauts, the mission was fairly routine/simple, but on the driller's side, no one had ever had to drill through an asteroid, so, on that field, this was pretty much groundbreaking.

Somehow though they don't need drill mud to cool down their drills at all in the movie though.
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#226 - alexanderh (09/28/2014) [-]
Drill mud wouldn't be enough to cool it, to be honest. Heat dissipation is incredibly difficult in space, and space stations need huge heat radiators to function. In space, you have to rely on heat radiation since heat doesn't transfer to the surrounding air.
#251 - wreckedcar (09/28/2014) [-]
heat does not need air to transfer
#254 - alexanderh (09/28/2014) [-]
It needs SOMETHING.
A vacuum means that it cannot transfer the heat to anything at all. The only way to get rid of heat in a vacuum is through radiation, and it's a very slow process that needs a large surface area to actually get rid of the heat. Drill mud would act as a heat sink, prolonging the time it would take before the drill would melt, but it wouldn't really make much of a difference with such a large object that needs drilling.
#257 - wreckedcar (09/28/2014) [-]
Electromagnetic radiation, including light, does not require the presence of matter to propagate and travels in the vacuum of space infinitely far if unobstructed.
#259 - alexanderh (09/28/2014) [-]
Am I saying you're wrong? no. I actually said that you're right. Heat can dissipate via radiation, but that is pretty much the only way it is dissipated in space. Heat radiation. There's not enough matter to transfer the heat to in space, so normal cooling methods that work on earth don't work in space.
#260 - wreckedcar (09/28/2014) [-]
im ok with that. i guess i missunderstood, sorry. Dont know that movie so yeah, i have no idea what they tried
#261 - alexanderh (09/28/2014) [-]
They basically tried drilling an asteroid without drill mud (used to transfer heat away from the drill bit) and without any heat radiators. And somehow, their drill didn't melt completely.
#262 - wreckedcar (09/28/2014) [-]
but it wouldve worked with drill mud, no?
#264 - alexanderh (09/28/2014) [-]
No, it wouldn't. Drill mud would have given them more time of drilling before the drill would melt, but it wouldn't be enough (or they would have needed a much bigger spaceship).

Drilling something in space is not something you do as an emergency measure. If an asteroid is discovered and is heading straight for us, you send up a large probe that "anchors" itself next to it, and uses the gravitational forces of the two objects to change the course (with positional corrections performed using an RCS). You don't drill something that needs to not hit whatever it's hitting. They tried drilling an absolutely massive asteroid so the pieces would burn up in the atmosphere. That just wouldn't work in real life, they would have to get a drill up there several years before it hit to be able to drill it up sufficiently without melting your drill. In which case it would be much easier and cheaper to just send up a huge probe to use gravity to pull it off course.
#265 - wreckedcar (09/28/2014) [-]
why not simply bomb it into pieces?
#267 - alexanderh (09/28/2014) [-]
I think they did that at the end, but I can't remember. But that wouldn't really work. Explosion take the easiest route, and vacuum is much easier to get through than hard rock, so it would be a surface explosion that didn't do much to the actual rock.
#256 - wreckedcar (09/28/2014) [-]
it will just go on till it finds something, but it WILL get cooler
#255 - wreckedcar (09/28/2014) [-]
youre wrong. it doesnt need anything. with your logics, the sun wouldnt work, rofl. heat doesnt need anything
#258 - alexanderh (09/28/2014) [-]
The sun works via UV radiation. Which is a kind of radiation, which I stated is one of the ways heat dissipation can work.

In space, there is basically nothing. It will transfer heat to the little amount of atoms that pass by, but it is not efficient enough to actually cool something like a drill, even with drill mud. You will never be able to operate a drill in space without massive heat radiators to get rid of all the heat generated by the friction of the drill.
#228 - rdobet (09/28/2014) [-]
I'm aware. I'm saying they didn't even need that. Just the vacuum of space was apparently enough to keep the drills from overheating.
#229 - alexanderh (09/28/2014) [-]
And that's the problem with a lot of movies. Most movies assume that space is cold. Space isn't cold. But it's not hot either. It's neither, but not something in between. The hard vacuum of space doesn't cool anything down, it traps the heat since there's nothing to transfer the energy to.
It can really break the suspension of disbelief if you know enough about the subject.
#230 - rdobet (09/28/2014) [-]
A lot of shows/movies fall into this category. Technobabble often does this as well.
Heck, sometimes you don't even need to know much at all for it to happen.
#235 - alexanderh (09/28/2014) [-]
That was one of the things I really liked about Guardians. It was somewhat close in most things. The things I was impressed with:
1) the ships had a sensible control interface. A throttle and a joystick for controlling a space ship, instead of what appears to be touch screens and levers and knobs everywhere. It was really nice to see, especially from Hollywood.
2) The small industrial craft had RCS thruster blocks in various (sensible) locations, and they fired in a believable manner. Again, nice to see movement from actual technology that looked sensible and believable. The above two are pretty rare in Hollywood, and the only other movie I can remember that had it was Gravity, which was praised for being so accurate.
3) Peter Quill didn't die from taking off his helmet for a few seconds. In real life, you can be in space for about 30 seconds without any special gear without any long term health effects, provided you don't hold your breath (if you do, you will experience explosive decompression of your lungs. One of the most painful ways to die). And flying about in space with only a helmet providing oxygen is also possible for short periods of time. It's uncomfortable because the fluids on exposed skin will boil due to the vacuum (no heat increase, it just boils away). It's an uncomfortable feeling, but you can get used to it over time.

Now, things I didn't really like were rare, but there were two notable things.
1) light spoiler alert When Peter Quill flies back to the Milano at the prison escape scene to the tune of Escape (also known as the piƱa colada song), he uses continuous thrust from his jetboots. That would accelerate him constantly, but it doesn't appear to. It's a very minor thing, but I did notice it.
2) light spoiler alert When he rescues Gamora from space, the water on his skin appears to freeze. It would just vaporize. Again, a very minor thing, but it did irk me a little.

Overall, pretty good about it.
User avatar #237 - therealtjthemedic (09/28/2014) [-]
Spaceships do have a shit ton of screens and buttons though, otherwise you've got no idea where you are or which direction you're facing.
#240 - alexanderh (09/28/2014) [-]
While that is true, they usually also have a sensible control interface.
The Milano, and the other ships of the same type, did have several screens in the cockpit that could be used for navigational purposes.
What I'm talking about is ships like the millenium falcon and the Normandy from Mass Effect. The Falcon didn't have a joystick anywhere. It had several things that could be used as throttles, but nowhere did I see anything resembling a stick or yoke that could control attitude of the craft. And Joker controlled the Normandy by tapping and swiping on a touch screen, yet pulled some pretty cool maneuvers that would be almost impossible without a stick or yoke.

I was just pleasantly surprised to see an actual stick and throttle in a spaceship made in Hollywood for once. It wasn't quite HOTAS (not enough buttons around and on the stick and throttle to be a HOTAS), but it was still a sensible control interface that could work, especially with contextual touch screens in addition to the stick and throttle.
User avatar #241 - therealtjthemedic (09/28/2014) [-]
Yeah, that's what I was getting at.
Not having a stick or anything is probably an artistic choice to make it look more futuristic.
#242 - alexanderh (09/28/2014) [-]
Yeah, I get that. It just pulls me out of my immersion in the universe instantly. It just doesn't make sense to not have a stick for controlling ship attitude. On a capital ship, I can understand it. It would be easier, more precise, and possibly faster, to input a course correction into the ship computer instead of using a stick, but a small craft that can pull high-G maneuvers should always have a stick of some kind.
A dual stick setup is what would make the most sense in a spacecraft made for dogfighting. It allows you to have very fine control over strafing, and you can mount the left stick on a slider, allowing it to act as a throttle as well. You could use a HAT switch on a throttle for that, but you can get finer control with a second stick.

I'm just glad to see something sensible finally coming out of a Hollywood Sci-Fi movie.
#180 - mayoroftownsville (09/28/2014) [-]
I think the best explanation is from a filmmaking perspective. Drillers are a much more everyman type of character than astronauts, so there's that. It's also much more exciting to watch normal guys get trained to be astronauts than to watch astronauts learn to drill, and much more tense since being an astronaut is a much more complicated and dangerous job.
User avatar #163 - bothemastaofall (09/28/2014) [-]
You know, I thought it made sense. The drillers were only trained in what to expect in space. They didn't pilot the ship or anything technical. They were there to drill.
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#3 - xxxsonic fanxxx (12/22/2012) [-]
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#1 - xxxsonic fanxxx (12/19/2012) [-]
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#2 to #1 - zenethe ONLINE (12/19/2012) [-]
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