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#6 - i seem to see stuff like this whenever the race debate comes u…  [+] (23 replies) 07/14/2016 on Besides that -5
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#12 - drtrousersnake (07/14/2016) [-]
But blacks invented slavery and use iphones.
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#11 - theruinedsage (07/14/2016) [-]
Not at all.
They want to assign individual blame for slavery to people that weren't alive when it happened.
But refuse to accept that most modern inventions were made by white people.
#9 - dudulli (07/14/2016) [-]
I'm just throwing this out here:
One was done to/for them/you.
One was done to/for their/your ancestors.
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#8 - notwalkingwaffles (07/14/2016) [-]
Yup pretty much.
We invented the internet and revolutionised the world with science and electricity and computers, but imprisoning the Irish or the black dudes is a thing that some dead people did. Pretty fucking retarded really.
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#21 - dayrek (07/14/2016) [-]
No one wants to use this argument, just the people spouting the sins of the ancestors shit force us to bring up all the good, in order to beat them at their own game.

Also slavery is a human thing, no race owned it, every race used it... until the United Kingdom stopped the practice globally
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#34 - jakotad (07/14/2016) [-]
Except slavery is still going on in third world countries.
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#44 - dayrek (07/14/2016) [-]

The United Kingdom stopped the Portuguese Empire, Spanish Empire, Swedish Empire, and Prussian Empire from trading slaves. Also stopped the trans-Atlantic slave trade, because of their efforts Europe became anti-slavery, something that had never been done or thought of in human history. A continent free of slaves.

The current state of affairs does not diminish this.
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#22 - notwalkingwaffles (07/14/2016) [-]
Nobody is forcing you to use a flawed argument.
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#23 - dayrek (07/14/2016) [-]
Every heard the phrase "beat them at their own game". That's the logic.
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#26 - notwalkingwaffles (07/14/2016) [-]
"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
-Mark Twain
And the man has a point. If you want to point out that these people are wrong in the way they are doing things, doing things in the same way as they is not the way to go mate.
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#27 - dayrek (07/14/2016) [-]
I am not trying to argue properly with them, because they don't care about reaching a conclusion. They just want to shout their ideology at anyone who will listen.

It's just a quick way to dismiss somebody.
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#28 - notwalkingwaffles (07/14/2016) [-]
By shouting back shit?
You're not beating anybody mate.
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#29 - dayrek (07/14/2016) [-]
By presenting their own argument back to them. So they go away a find a even worse one until no one pays them heed.

Your coming at this as though the person you are arguing with is reasonable. If they are using the sins of the ancestor argument, they are too far gone.
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#30 - notwalkingwaffles (07/14/2016) [-]
You would use the core of their argument which both you and they know to be a fallacy to form a counter argument while I would argue that the core of their argument is a fallacy, and the second you do that you're forced to either accept that the core stands, or accept that you've used flawed logic because these people are not stupid, they are not rambling retards, they're well educated people using pathos to get money, and the second they see what your'e doing, they'll find a way to take your bullshitting ways - although it is the same bullshitting ways that they utilise, and turn it against you.
It's like they've been using flawed tech to build a weapon, and doing so they have roused an army of peasants who believe in this weapon. The weapon does nothing, but an army is an army.
If you use the same tech to make a weapon, you forget that you do not have an army.
The second you do that, you've lost.
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#31 - dayrek (07/14/2016) [-]
Lost what "mate"?

An internet argument? They either are using this to get money as you said, in which case arguing with them would be futile. Or they truly believe in it, and in that case I want them to fuck off, so I present their own argument back to them but in the opposite position of the one they presented it in.

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#33 - notwalkingwaffles (07/14/2016) [-]
Any hope of changing even one person's mind.
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#35 - dayrek (07/14/2016) [-]
For reasonable people, (people looking for a conclusion not a victory) I will debate with them. For people who care about "winning" or "losing", I concede that I do not care.
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#37 - notwalkingwaffles (07/14/2016) [-]
Not a commentary on this discussion btw.
#39 - dayrek (07/14/2016) [-]
Oh, phew.
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#40 - notwalkingwaffles (07/14/2016) [-]
I know, I just realised that it might sound as though I was stating that you do not think, while it is actually a statement on the BLM/SJW/Feminazi/pathos digging morons out there.
Have a good day, sir.
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#49 - dayrek (07/14/2016) [-]
Eh I didn't think it was, just wanted to use the pic.
A conclusion, wonderful. We didn't just shout at each-other and get madder. Have fun mate.
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#36 - notwalkingwaffles (07/14/2016) [-]
Fair enough. I also just realised that the first step in making people realise they're wrong is to make them think.
And that battle is lost before it even begins. :/
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#7 - angelusprimus (07/14/2016) [-]
No, not really.
Question is "What have white people done for us?" Answer could fill a book.ž
But if they ask "What have white people done to us?" Then the answer is different.
I can't take any credit for light or iPhones. But white people as a group can.
And some white people had slaves and profited from it. And they, and those that don't think it was wrong, do take the blame for it.
It was white people who stopped the slavery and fought to free the slaves too. where is credit for that?
And just a little thing. While I didn't invent the light or iPhone a tiny tiny bit of my code is used by apple cloud.
Which means I can rightfully take some of the credit (tiny tiny bit) for the Fappening
#37 - anyone got sauce on this song?  [+] (1 reply) 07/14/2016 on D.Va wants a Hamburger 0
#40 - anon (07/14/2016) [-]
Hell March
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#1429393 - Hey guys, Me and my friends (there are six of us) wer…  [+] (2 replies) 05/03/2016 on Video Games 0
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#1429419 - bendeman (05/03/2016) [-]
play with me nerd
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