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|#45 - Makes me mad seeing English people giving their opinion, if Sc… [+] (32 new replies)||06/11/2014 on Support||0|
#95 - odonnell (06/11/2014) [-]
Theres a few English people where I live, the ones I've spoke to about independence are for it. The majority of people in England still think the tories, UKIP etc are all shite. Its just London that out numbers everyone else. If we killed off the Londoners the voting would be more accurate, and a democracy would work.
#70 - anon (06/11/2014) [-]
Because we don't want to have to pick up and bail out your shattered attempt at an independant shithole when it ineivitably fails. Don't be the UK version of Greece.
#122 - ennaburning (06/11/2014) [-]
Depends where you go in Edinburgh. There are people I know from places like Inverness that are waaaay posher than some of the people I know in Edinburgh. I would say Edinburgh can be quite posh in certain areas, more than cities like Glasgow or whatever. But posh doesn't necessarily mean English.
#84 - odonnell (06/11/2014) [-]
Edinburgh is just a Tourist attraction, everybody knows that. Thats its stereotype, just a Tartan England.
I don't know about Glasgow though, i think he's probably referring to the amount of Immigrants working there and the upper class areas of Glasgow seem too posh to be Scottish. There are plenty of areas in Glasgow that have normal people in it though (Probably the majority of people in Glasgow are just commoners).
Im with this guy though, if Scotland was so bad, and so poor, just generally so shit, why would Westminster try so hard to fight us, especially since the Unionists are convinced the oil will be dry by the weekend.
I don't know if I'll move to Norway though (I will move if Scotland doesn't get independence (Just because Im in the UK now and I can see its not going to do my future any good)). I think Iceland seems more promising.
#85 - ennaburning (06/11/2014) [-]
It really isn't just a tourist attraction though. I'm from Glasgow but study at Edinburgh Uni, admittedly the Royal Mile and Princes Street are both just filled with tourists, but the rest of it isn't. Try visiting Leith for example, definitely not an English area at all.
And every city has people of different classes and 'poshness', Glasgow is no exception, but try telling them that they're practically English and it won't end well for you. A lot of us are extremely proud Scots.
I am one for staying part of the UK (not gonna get into a debate over that though) but personally I don't think that makes me any less Scottish.
#93 - odonnell (06/11/2014) [-]
By showing your doubts about Scotland being able to be a successful independent nation, you're showing your distaste in being Scottish. You can try to deny it as much as you like, but you're just as Scottish as someone that leaves Scotland and signs up for another nationality (Eg, Craig Ferguson)
You're entitled to your vote, but don't try to make it seem as if you're Scottish when you're using a British Passport.
#98 - odonnell (06/11/2014) [-]
That didn't even make any sense. I never said being British makes you less British, I said you wanting to give over the rule to Wesminster in return for a British Passport makes you less Scottish.
If you meant "does being Glaswegian make you any less Scottish?" then you're right on that one, it doesn't. Do you know why? Because Glasgow is a city, not a country. You don't get a Glasgow Passport.
Who said I don't feel Scottish. I'm more proud to be Scottish than you are, im against my friends and family losing their homes because a government you love imposes extra taxes upon them.
#101 - ennaburning (06/11/2014) [-]
It does make sense But that's what I'm saying I'm not "handing over control to Westminster" . It is a system in Britain with centralised Government in Westminster with devolved powers to Scotland. You make it sound as if I personally gave all powers to Westminster.
And how can you say you are more proud to be Scottish than me? How do you know?
And like fuck I love the Government right now. I am a Labour voter through and through and I don't like having a Tory/Lib Dem government, but that's what democracy has given us. Do you know what, I don't like having SNP in Holyrood either, but again that is democracy and what happens.
#103 - odonnell (06/11/2014) [-]
Fair enough, so you want more powers for Scotland, thats not as bad. I thought you were just another one of those retarded unionists that don't want any change, they want to keep the things exactly the way they are. So sorry about that.
But, further devolution won't solve any problems. Westminster is only promising further tax powers but they will still be limited. Having control over tax isn't going to get the trident out of the clyde, its not going stop us getting dragged down into another economic decline if Westminster slips. Thats what they do, look at the last devolution, they promised treats, and we got Thatcherism. I wonder what will be next, Thatcher killed all the coal jobs, so Im sure they'll find someone to kill all the oil and renewable energy jobs this time.
Thats the unionists I know. You're saying I can't know that I'm more Scottish than you, but before you seemed to know that I don't feel Scottish.
What you're describing here is one of the reasons to vote for Independence. Having 60 Million in England vs 6 Million in Scotland isn't going to be a fair democracy. Thats why people want independence, Then its the 6 Million in Scotland vs the 6 Million in Scotland. Fair enough, not everyone will get what they want, thats just democracy, but that'll be a fraction of the 6 million, instead of the whole.
Why did you even bother with the "/Lib Dem" everybody knows they dont do anything, they just sit and do what Cameron tells them.
#106 - ennaburning (06/11/2014) [-]
No, I definitely want further and substantial devolution. I'm more of a fix the system you have kinda person. And I think further devolution will help. And personally I don't know if I want Trident out of the Clyde. I know plenty of people that work at Faslane and related sites, it's a huge area of employment. And the economic decline and recession we're in is worldwide - independent or not we would still be affected.
And I got the impression you didn't feel Scottish in the system we're in.
And it isn't everyone in England vs everyone in Scotland. People in Scotland vote Tory too, and people in England vote Labour. The way we overcome the imbalance and difference in priorities is a devolved Holyrood Parliament, which does control major things like the NHS and education.
And I bother with the /Lib Dem bit because while they might not really do anything, one thing man of them did do was vote to raise student fees after specifically saying in their campaign they wouldn't, and I find that unforgivable and something people need to keep in mind along with all their other betrayals.
#114 - odonnell (06/11/2014) [-]
If independent we could take action to prevent such a massive effect on our economy. I would say look at Norway, but all the Nationalists use that, and its annoying. So look at Iceland. The recession began, then they shot ahead.
I didn't mean for it to seem so blocked in the numbers. What I mean is that the people in Scotland have a different mind set than those in England. The same as those in the North of England have a different mind set than those in the South. I was just using those numbers as an example to show how outnumbered we are.
That would be another reason to vote for Independence. How long until they manage to rid of free education in Scotland, they're already trying their hardest to privatize the NHS, and already succeeded in privatizing the Royal Mail.
You said you never wanted to get into a debate, neither do I, i was just looking for something to pass the time before work. It seems we're starting to try and convince each other to vote the other way. So I'll give it a rest here, unless you've got another opinion i don't like?
|#44 - but the difference is wales has **** all in it, Scotland has o… [+] (18 new replies)||06/11/2014 on Support||-3|
#160 - zealouscoma (06/11/2014) [-]
Scottish whiskey value
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#56 - iamausername (06/11/2014) [-]
I like Wales, it has loads of natural scenery which is nice, I've seen some stunning chicks, Welsh cakes are tasty! Not sure if 100% Welsh I'm not great with the Welsh language but I think it's cool.
In my family, we get along with Scots and the Irish, which is more than the English can say, I think. ^_^
Correct me if I'm wrong, seriously, I don't want to look stupid here D:
|#43 - i really hope we leave the uk, being from aberdeen it wont aff… [+] (8 new replies)||06/11/2014 on Support||0|
#139 - anon (06/11/2014) [-]
Scotland doesn't have any oil and won't if they split. The oil fields are privately owned.
When they say your economy will float on that oil, they're simply lying. The only way Scotland could claim that oil would be to nationalise it - something thats generally only done by people like Gaddafi because in the modern world it's frowned upon to steal private property to fuel petty political agendas.
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