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#114 - Not sure if we can do all laws, But we can at least start with… 04/17/2014 on Tie till 0
#237 - My question wasn't whether or not the arguments are well reaso… 04/10/2014 on Hugging a woman = raping her 0
#123 - You seem like you can actually appreciate the workings of thes…  [+] (15 new replies) 04/10/2014 on Hugging a woman = raping her 0
#190 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
so yes I would say that these protests from these activists are well reasons if not poorly delivered.
#237 - zacsuntibidea (04/10/2014) [-]
My question wasn't whether or not the arguments are well reasoned. I'm looking at who's hearing the arguments and who's doing the raping and seeing very little overlap.

The people who use the 'asking for it' reasoning are the people claiming themselves to be lacking self control, and even more so the ones who use the 'steak in front of a dog' argument.

'Some guy' losing his control temporarily in specific instances does not seem to be who the activists are complaining about at least, not to me . That issue is far more reasonable to expect the 'aggressor' to care, but walking around naked isn't saying "I represent inebriated partiers" nearly so much as it says "I represent skirt-wearing subway goers"
#189 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
where are all these crazed people with no self control coming from? thats not how most rapes happen. Its usually just some guy.
#198 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
Just some guy who ignores the needs and wants of others to achieve personal gain.
I believe we call that a psychopath, and it isn't normal.
They might seem normal, right up until they do something, but they aren't.
That's like saying the guy who fantasizes about stabbing his mother is normal. He seemed so sweet, right up until I walked in on him knuckle-deep inside her intestines.
#207 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
okay so I think you're getting this preconception of rape only being possible if its a psychopath doing it, because it seems so foriegn to you, which is sweet. you must have a strong moral compass, but that's not the case. I'll use a personal anecdote. about 8 months ago I was hosting a party and one thing led to another with this girl and we were fooling around in bed, both pretty drunk. when i progressed things, she said she didn't want to, and yes I stopped, but it wasn't even kind of close to as easy as I thought it would be. I had to really tell myself not to keep trying and ended up just being frozen on top of her for what felt like hours, but was closer to 15 seconds before I moved and started apologizing profusely. Point is, Its not as easy as one would think, or hope.
#209 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
And one time I was drunk and just about fooled around with my best friend, but we stopped too. It wasn't easy to stop, because you're fighting between your biological reason for existing and your moral compass, but you did stop. Because you're a half decent human being being told to not go there.
#213 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
okay but can you realize that some people's moral compass loses that internal struggle, that doesn;t make it okay, or justified, just that it doesn't quite take a psychopath to do it is my point.
#217 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
Yeah, and the point at which you can lose that battle makes you abnormal. How often do you think that situation happens? It happens all the time, and most of the time the guy backs off.
#219 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
yeah definitely, now would you say you were born with your current moral compass, or that your upbringing has helped shape it (not entirely, but at least part of it)
#224 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
I'd say your moral compass is mostly nurture, honestly. Barring an imbalance of hormones, you can condition almost anyone to act in almost any way, if you're willing to torture them.
#227 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
right, exactly. So I think that this rape awareness stuff that they're doing is good and will positively affect the ratio of guys that stop and guys that don't. Not this particular instance, poorly delivered and presumptuous.
#230 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
Okay, but these women are actively silencing the people who are urging them to be more careful. Do you think it would be more effective to have a hundred more women carrying pepper spray, or to have one more man stop?
#235 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
well thats a good question, I'm personally a fan of both happening, tragically most of the pepper spray I've seen girls carry, previously including my girlfriend, were buried at the bottom of a purse or backpack. also in almost any instance of date rape it wouldn't be helpful, but I think I would take the 100 girls with pepper spray if I could only pick one.
#236 - ninjaroo (04/10/2014) [-]
Well given that there are two groups actively opposing one another, I'd say that unless you manage to resolve several thousand people fundamentally misunderstanding one camps argument and the other camp getting frustrated at that, you only get one.
#239 - bbdabrick (04/10/2014) [-]
Yeah in this case it does, hopefully they'll focus more on things that don't encourage any irresponsible behavior
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#102 - nimithecat (02/03/2014) [-]
GOOD-GOD! SHE'S NAKED!!! And it looks like a child! Fuck!
ADMIN quit fucking around, there's carrot child porn here!
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If a squash can make you smile
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