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#12 - raidaltamimi (06/14/2016) [-]
I can see where your hate is coming from, I see it everyday.

I was looking for a discussion more than a hate speech about how people want to see my country burns. but, can you tell me why exactly you hate Saudi Arabia?

I won't insult you or offend anyone by any mean, just want to hear your point of view.
#71 - anon (06/14/2016) [-]
Well, the elite of your country are spreading their pseudo-Wahhabi Salafist cancer across the rest of the muslim world. Islam can be a wonderfull and pure religion to follow, as long as you see jihad and islam as your own journey, not a journey you force others to follow. If the muslim world was as it is here in Kurdistan, no one would mind islam at all.
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#64 - metalnettle (06/14/2016) [-]
Personally and partially because of the way you guys treat women. Not allowing them to drive, needing to be completely covered, not being allowed to leave the house/ do anything without a man etc. As a woman that shit is downright disgusting to me. That is the true meaning of a patriarchy and female oppression.
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#168 - raidaltamimi (06/14/2016) [-]
Thank you for your comment. everything I read here is nothing but common consumption, so far I didn't read anything about Islam other than (terrorism, homosexuals and women). :/

Now, you mentioned three points:

WOMEN NOT DRIVING IN KSA: note that it is only in Saudi Arabia, other Muslim countries let women drive without any troubles. that means the problem is in Saudi Arabia not in Islam, do we agree on that? cool. now, Saudi Arabia doesn't prevent women to drive for any religious cause, the problem is culture. I can describe it in details if you want. but Saudi Arabia is not ready to allow women to drive, as it will causee soo much problems.

NEEDING FOR THEM TO COVERED: I don't get it, when was the last time you've heard a Saudi woman complaining about it? people from everywhere is soooo butthurt about it while women here has no problem with it.and it boils my freaking blood. but the coverings happens for reasons, and women understands it.

NOT BEING ALLOWED TO LEAVE THE HOUSE WITHOUT A MAN: this one got me screaming, WHERE DO YOU GUYS COME UP WITH THIS SHIT? I'll speak from my personal experience, My mother! lives in other city far away from me, alone with my two sisters. they don't have a single man living with them in their big ass villa. they go to malls, they go to play grounds, they go to sea, they travel other cities and other countries without any problem at all.

Finally, thank you for explaining why you hate us, and allowing me to prove that those things are wrong. please, whenever you fell frustrated of someone or some group, make sure to know the real things, do not listen what internet or the media says. ask Muslims, be friends with them, we are peaceful. my girlfriend is an American, christian. and I love her to death, as she do the same.

If you have further questions, I'd be happy to answer it.
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#173 - imashitbricks (06/14/2016) [-]
But won't the women be punished if they don't cover up?
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#57 - sesshii (06/14/2016) [-]
Your existence is hate speech.
#17 - anon (06/14/2016) [-]
People are just tired of shit like the orlando thing happening, and sure it will always happen no matter what, but most shit like that is committed by muslims, imagine if muslims just ceased to exist, just imagine it, crime on a global scale would decrease IMMENSELY. And thats a fact.
#98 - shyyguy (06/14/2016) [-]
>crime on a global scale would decrease IMMENSELY

Hateful people will always hate, and you can never get rid of hateful people.
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#19 - raidaltamimi (06/14/2016) [-]
Okay. let me give you an example: A group of people calls themselves (The land of Christians) for example, those guys went out killing and robbing innocent people, is it a right thing to say that all Christians are bad?

Isis and all group of terrorists are just bunch of assholes who wants everyone to hate Islam, if you think that they are doing anything Islamic, you are wrong. and I can convince you if you want.

because of those terrorists, all peaceful Muslims like me, get titled, hated and called bad words for no reason.
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#59 - MrLlama (06/14/2016) [-]
I think a lot of the hate comes from the fact that so many large scale terrorist attacks are committed by Muslims (You can't really deny how often terrorists turn out to be muslim) and how unstable the entire middle east seems to be.

I'm sure there's good people there, but when all you hear about Muslims is how fucking backwards and cruel their countries are, along with all the reports on terrorism it's easy for people to develop a hate or fear of Muslims.
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#18 - raidaltamimi (06/14/2016) [-]
People hates me because I'm Muslim. they don't know me, they don't know what I've accomplished in life. they just hates me because I'm a Muslim.

do you think this is a right thing to happen?
#89 - twentyninersaregay (06/14/2016) [-]
If I were a nazi and you were a jew, would you hate me before knowing me? that's why the whole fucking world hates you.
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#66 - cadencee (06/14/2016) [-]
They shouldn't hate you because youre Muslim but they have very good reason to hate your religion and what it stands for. The difference between Islam and Christianity is the intensity which Muslims follow their faith. Both the bible and Quran instruct terrible bigotry, violence and hatred but only muslims continue to perpetrate it to this extent. I have a Muslim friend, he isn't a friend and a Muslim, he is a friend despite being a Muslim. He is to me, living proof that it takes religion to make good people do/think terrible things. I will never respect your religion, I will never respect your freedom to practice it. But I will never hate you for practising it. I pity the devoutly religious, but more than that I pity the children of the devoutly religious. They will, more often than not grow up to be just as bigoted and hateful as their parents. It is the young and passionate who die for a cause and the old and heartless who send them to their deaths; and the worst part? My friend, the worst part is that they believe they are doing the right thing. They are convinced that what they are doing is the will of some supernatural being. That they will be rewarded for it, honoured for it and respected for it. That is what truly scares me and that is why I do not believe that it will change.
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#125 - toensix (06/14/2016) [-]
That difference is only contemporary. If you look at the history of both Christianity and Islam, you'd find that both have had extremly fundamentalistic and violent periodes.

Yes, Christians don't do it anymore and Muslims do. But the Christian world has been one of the most prosperous and educated regions in the world for some time now while the Muslim world has been falling apart ever since the Fall of the Ottoman empire. The region lacks stability and a future and that it what causes this violence. Islam is just what people cling to in such a chaotic time because it's the only old institution and authority left in the region.

People will always kill others for their ideologies. That ideology can religious: Christianity: The Thirty Years War, Iconoclasm. Islam: The current conflict, Sunni vs Shia.
But it can also be anything else: Nazi: Exterminating the Jews because of percieved scientific and historic reasons. Turks: Armenians out of nationalism.

It's not religion, it's radical believers of an ideology. And you can't ever ban that completely from the world because ideologies are simply a product of humans in general.
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#184 - cadencee (06/15/2016) [-]
I know all of this. You say it isnt religion but add religion in the list of reasons people kill others. All of those ideaologies should be mistrusted and not respected whilst being used to persecute and kill others. If people are killing others because of what they believe then the belief system is somewhat to blame. Lets take radical people and have them follow a radical belief system and see what you get. The Quran may not neccesarily be the reason they kill others by itself. But it is certainly the reason they believe its a good cause. At the end of the day no amount of understanding changes the cold hard truth. Religion allows good people to do terrible things without remorse and gives bad people justification for the evil they would commit either way.
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#188 - toensix (06/15/2016) [-]
Humans fight over what they strongly believe in. This can be religion but it can also be any other believe system. The 20th century was the bloodiest century in human history and it was fought over beliefs, but these beliefs were not religious.

Good or bad people don't exist. Everyone thinks they are doing they right thing (or at least, that they have the right intentions) and everyone thinks another group is bad. It will always be like this wether religion exists or not. It'll just be the next communism vs capitalism.

It's true that Islam's teaching are often more violent then Christuian ones. Yet look at all the death and destruction done in the name of a religion about forgiveness and 'love thy neighbor'. Nowadays most Christians are peaceful but their scripture hasn't changed. Islam has had peaceful periodes and violent periodes, just like Christianity did. We shouldn't blame the scripture but blame the people who choose to act on it like they do. They are ignoring parts of the scripture because suicide is a great sin in the Quran, so I once again wouldn't blame it on the scripture.

The people who choose to blow themselves up are those with purpose or direction in life, their family might be dead or they simply feel useless. And there are the Jihadis to give this person a goal in life and a chane for glory.
#129 - anon (06/14/2016) [-]

Waiting for an answer.
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#185 - cadencee (06/15/2016) [-]
I do this thing sometimes, I call it sleep
#29 - anon (06/14/2016) [-]
Stop speaking to these people. They are the ISIS of America and do not represent americans.
Please leave, the people on this site are very ignorant and they will not try to understand you.
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#33 - raidaltamimi (06/14/2016) [-]
No they are not. and that's a fact. they just saw what the media shows on TV about terrorism and bad stuff, and they think that the religion Islam is the problem, and all the Muslims are like that.

I want to change that. they are not ignorant, they just doesn't know what's the truth is.
#38 - anon (06/14/2016) [-]
I admire your patience.
I feel ashamed to be an American when I have so many people in my country behaving like this.
#50 - anon (06/14/2016) [-]
I think I love you anon, you give me hope for this site
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#41 - raidaltamimi (06/14/2016) [-]
you shouldn't be ashamed, you should be proud of yourself because you know YOU don't want to accept hate. it only proves how much smart open minded you are. and most people in America are kind non-hating people.

literally everywhere in this world there are good people, and bad people. people here on FJ thinks that every Muslim is a terrorist, and everyone should hate him. and I try my best to show as many people as I can, that terrorists are the one people should be afraid of, not Islam and Muslims.
#27 - anon (06/14/2016) [-]
Please do not let these assholes represent Americans.
I respect who you are and I respect your religion, Isis must be defeated for the sake of everyone.
The terrorists have been so effective at scaring everyone, and they are pointing their guns at their own friends in their confusion.
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#44 - raidaltamimi (06/14/2016) [-]
and if nobody is showing people that Islam is not related to terrorists, more hate will be spread, and that's what the terrorists wants, that's how they win.
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#26 - kibuza (06/14/2016) [-]
Do you think it's okay to hate someone because of something they choose to believe? Of course it is. It's not something you can't control like your skin colour. You aren't born Muslim. You chose to be Muslim, and therefore it's a perfectly viable reason to not like you.
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#31 - raidaltamimi (06/14/2016) [-]
Thank you for your comment. Yeah, I agree with you. but I mean, Islam is a religion, right? just like any religion in this world. has a god and beliefs to follow. only some bunch of fucks wants to terrorize people relate to it doesn't mean that it is a bad thing, right?

I'm an Inventor. I invented stuff that saves people's lives. but because I'm a Muslim, people hates me instead of encouraging me to do more.

do you think this is right?
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#34 - kibuza (06/14/2016) [-]
Do I think it's right to be done to YOU specifically? Not if what you say is true. The problem is that people don't know anything about you when all you tell them is you're a Muslim. If the only thing you tell me is that you're Muslim than the only thing I have to judge you one is that you believe similar things to the most violent and intolerant group of people.

Your religion has a massively disproportionate amount of violence and intolerance when compared with any other modern belief system. I think it's perfectly justifiable that someone might not like you for what you believe.
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#36 - raidaltamimi (06/14/2016) [-]
" The problem is that people don't know anything about you when all you tell them is you're a Muslim"

yeah exactly! that's why I'm bothered, because people hears Islam and they freak out, and that's what I'm trying to change. and thank you for understanding.

can I ask you a question? how did you know about Islam? have you met Muslims before? Have you been to a Muslim country before? I can see clearly that the answer is No.

people knew about Islam from the wrong way, Media. media doesn't show people living happily, media doesn't show people going to work, making money, awesome businesses, Media only shows violence and killing, shows bad things and never good, do you agree?

let me tell you something: do you know that Isis has killed more Muslims than all the other religions members combined? does that make any sense? they haven't touched a Jew.

Isis has killed and terrorized people in Muslim countries more than anything, heck they even did their shit bombings in my country, in Saudi Arabia! does that make any sense?

and no, I'm not lying, those are facts. other gulf and Islamic countries has considered Isis as a terrorizing group. and anyone that belong to Isis here are caught as a terrorist.

I can talk more if you like, but moral of all talking: Islam are not a violent religion, no religion on earth is.
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#138 - myfreepaysite (06/14/2016) [-]
Thanks for the input, didn't really know how atrocious ISIS can be against Muslims, their proclaimed brothers in faith.
Also, try not to be too eager to prove to others that people can't be judged by their faith or nationality. Just try to be who you really are and people will eventually see the point.
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#133 - kibuza (06/14/2016) [-]
Actually I live in Canada and I grew up in the second most heavily Muslim area in the entire country. I had and have plenty of Muslim friends.

The point I was trying to give to you is that when all you know about someone is that they're Muslim, that puts them on the bottom rung of religious choice. They're a part of the worst possible modern religion, and therefor it would actually be a positive Statistically; Obviously there are some Christians worse than some Muslims for them to be any other religion.

I don't automatically hate someone because they're Muslim, but I will generalize in something like say, if I had a choice to get on a plane with all Muslims or a plane with all Hindus. Obviously I will pick the Hindu plane because although the chance for either plane becoming an object of a terror attack is minuscule, there is a statistically a higher chance for something to go wrong on the Muslim plane.
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#21 - Glitched (06/14/2016) [-]
"do you think this is a right thing to happen?"

Don't be among the most retarded religious people if you don't want to be hated for being in one of the most retarded religions.

Muslims have been blowing themselves up to kill others.
Flying planes into buildings.
Cutting off heads for the offense of being gay.
Killing people because they are not retarded Muslims.

Get out while you can.
Be Christian.
Be Atheist.
Be Buddhist.
Just stop being retarded.
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#67 - cadencee (06/14/2016) [-]
Okay i have no love for Islam but telling him to leave his religion for another is straight up retarded. He cant just switch faith because he doesnt like what people of his faith are doing. Its not a fucking basketball team lol.
#164 - Glitched (06/14/2016) [-]
Someone forgot to teach you to read all of the words.
I also gave a Atheist option.

a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.

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#183 - cadencee (06/15/2016) [-]
Youre missing the point completely and I think youre too hopelessly and mindlessly focused on what you are saying to understand.
#193 - Glitched (06/15/2016) [-]
Switching faith is exactly what a non-radical person would do when it comes to terrorism in the name of Faith.

Having faith is something is only as concrete as your dependence on it.
Stop being dependent on a pretend fairy man and you won't need faith in one.
Faith in oneself is far superior than faith in a holy unicorn or fairy man.
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#198 - cadencee (06/16/2016) [-]
-.- you cannot seem to grasp belief to this extent. This conversation is not going to go anywhere.
#199 - Glitched (06/16/2016) [-]
No sane person could grasp faith in a god that says you should kill everyone not like you and behead people.
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#80 - timmywankenobi (06/14/2016) [-]
" He cant just switch faith because he doesn't like what people of his faith are doing"- That's exactly what he should do .

would you also argue someone can't stop being communist just because of all the horrific things other communists have done ?

If your ideology perpetuates hate and suffering , your idology is the problem and needs to be reformed.

Islam cannot be reformed because to attempt to do so automatically makes you and apostate and blasphemer and Muhammad order for all such people to be executed. and that exactly what they do to people who try to make changes in Islamic countries.
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#112 - cadencee (06/14/2016) [-]
Dude have you ever had faith in your life? It isn't a choice, it isn't a decision. If I believe that when you die you get reincarnated I cannot just believe something else when a bunch of hindu's burn down a primary school. Being religious isn't like being a fucking republican.

I personally am not superstitious in the slightest, I can think of very little that would change my beliefs and I know for a FACT; that I could not just change those beliefs on a whim.
#165 - Glitched (06/14/2016) [-]
If Hindu's burn down a school i would not blame Hindu's.
It would take more than that.
All religions have bad seeds.
Islam has the most and they have the most deadly.

So try again.
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#119 - timmywankenobi (06/14/2016) [-]
I have had faith in my life my parents are devout Christians

People should constantly question and challenge their beliefs, their " faith " , thats how you grow as a person and as a religion .

I question my faith every day. It makes be stronger and a better person.

you are advocating for closed mindedness .

" It isn't a choice, it isn't a decision" - Belief is absolutely a choice !
We all choose what we want to believe in everyday !

When insurmountable evidence is given your beliefs, your religion is violent, backwards and hateful . you can either challenge you beliefs and forge a new way or you can put you head in the sand and close your mind to the journey for truth.
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#28 - raidaltamimi (06/14/2016) [-]
Thank you for your reply.

Islam is a religion, a religion is when people worship god and follow what they believe. Islam is not a group of bad people as you mention, it is a religion. just like Islam has bad people, I'm sure you agree with me that every religion does too. My friend, search up how many Muslims in this world, how many of them are bad as you think? roughly I'd say only %5 (which is still high) are bad, or carries bad thoughts.

my problem is, people forget that I'm a human! they forget I have a heart and emotions, they forget that I have intention to live a very peaceful life without hurting anyone, instead, they hate because I worship a certain god.

look how people flipped their shit recently because a single person who claims to be one of a terrorist group killed innocent people. do you know Isis killed more Muslims than non-Muslims? do you know that Isis claims that they're following Islam, without doing anything Islamic?

you're trying to say that religions are just like sports teams. "man just be whatever just don't be Muslim" and that's wrong, brother.
#166 - Glitched (06/14/2016) [-]
"instead, they hate because I worship a certain god."

I don't give a shit what god you worship or have faith in.
The religion itself is shit and promotes hate and violence.
They are destroying Europe as we speak.
Look it up.
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#83 - timmywankenobi (06/14/2016) [-]
"My friend, search up how many Nazis's in this world, how many of them are bad as you think? roughly I'd say only %5 (which is still high) are bad, or carries bad thoughts.

"my problem is, people forget that I'm a human! they forget I have a heart and emotions, they forget that I have intention to live a very peaceful life without hurting anyone, instead, they hate because I worship mein furer "
#40 - Glitched (06/14/2016) [-]
www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx < so peaceful

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

"Islam is a religion, a religion is when people worship god and follow what they believe. Islam is not a group of bad people as you mention,"

Yeah....You left out this part.

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#58 - purgetheheretic (06/14/2016) [-]
Matthew 10:34
Jesus said "and do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."
When you miscontextualise a quote you may draw any conclusion you want from it.
#167 - Glitched (06/14/2016) [-]
Show me the total number of acts of terror commit ed by Christians in the world now.

You have all the time you need to search.
Good luck.

Christianity has evolved.
Islam is getting worse and radicalizing more and more people every day.
Could you point me to the article that shows hundreds of Christians in the last 20 years have suicide bombed anyone.

You can't....
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#189 - purgetheheretic (06/15/2016) [-]
I understand your point but I'm emphasising that you can take almost any passage you like from any holy text and as long as you omit the context you can bend it's meaning to your will. I'm simply positing that when people quote the quran they may not be referencing the true values the passage is supposed to embody.
#191 - Glitched (06/15/2016) [-]
And you ignored the whole Christian terror acts....
Don't reply until you find them.
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#194 - purgetheheretic (06/15/2016) [-]
I don't think you understand. I concur with you. I'm just saying you can't rattle off quotes and expect us all to bow to them.
For the record: i myself am a Christian and in response to your comments about Christians committing terror acts you only need to research the Northern Ireland conflicts. Bombs, shootings, innocents and combatants killed. Because some were Catholic and some were Protestant.
#195 - Glitched (06/15/2016) [-]
Not even close to what Islam is doing.
I see how it is relevant.

Catholics are far more evolved than protestants.

Muslims are still stuck in 3rd and 4th world belief systems and retardation.
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#196 - purgetheheretic (06/15/2016) [-]
"Catholics are more evolved than protestants"
>implying that there is only one type of protestantism
>implying protestantism isn't founded on the ideologies of questions your own beliefs thereby allowing the evolution of Christianity.

It was called the reformation for a reason dickhead.
I'm done trying to discuss things with you.
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#120 - timmywankenobi (06/14/2016) [-]
"the sword of truth "
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#42 - raidaltamimi (06/14/2016) [-]
Glitched I can answer your comment, I just want to ask you: do you hate Muslims because you think they are bad people? or do you hate Muslims just because you want to hate Islam? just like that, without any reason?

Sorry for the weird question. some people just hate because they want to hate, I've seen a lot of those everywhere. answer my question and I'd be happy to answer yours.
#45 - Glitched (06/14/2016) [-]
Because i think they are bad people?

Need a bit of proof?

Muslims turn everything to shit everywhere they go.
They destroy tradition and implement their own.
They are the worst thing the 21st century has to offer.
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#46 - raidaltamimi (06/14/2016) [-]
First of all, you're pointing the guilt finger at me, you do it every single reply of yours. if you can't trust me as a peaceful 'individual', I don't think anything I say really matters to you. that's why I asked you the question, which you didn't answer BTW.
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#84 - timmywankenobi (06/14/2016) [-]
you are literally making "the peaceful Nazi argument " claiming all Nazi's must be judged as individuals not a group based on their ideology and the actions in encourages.

it's like saying " I personally didn't kill any Jews so Nazism is good because I am good "
#47 - Glitched (06/14/2016) [-]
Anyone who claims to be Muslim and follows the teachings of the Quran is a bad person.

Not sure how i have not answered that.
All Muslims are bad.
If you're Muslim.....you're bad.
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#48 - raidaltamimi (06/14/2016) [-]
Yep! you're just hating because you want to hate. therefore anything I'll say to you and clarify to you will do nothing. you hate Muslims, you don't want to change that, regardless what you believe is right, or wrong.

At this point, I'm sorry! I can't help you.
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#86 - timmywankenobi (06/14/2016) [-]
your religion teaches hate and murder , you personally decided not to follow it closely and ignored all the passages that call for violence , but in doing so are you not disobeying the will of Muhammad and Allah ?

The prophet explicitly said to kill all gays , by not doing so you are a bad Muslim.

The prophet said to kill all those who blaspheme or insult Islam , by not doing so you are a bad Muslim.

The prophet said to beat you wife if she talks back to you or speaks out of turn or tries to leave the house , by not doing so you are a Bad Muslim .

The Fundamentalist you speak out against are the only one's actually following the words of the prophet . They are the real Muslims you are the fake.
#49 - Glitched (06/14/2016) [-]
I don't need to be helped.
I need Muslims to stop raping, being pedophiles, killing for allah, bombing, cutting heads off of people, killing gays because allah says so.

Show me the quote in the Quran that says Allah was just kidding about killing people and denounces all those doing it now.
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#51 - raidaltamimi (06/14/2016) [-]
> /Anon+reconsiders+islam/funny-pictures/5876242/
> Go to comment section
> search for comment made by user 'cenema'

That should answer your questions.
#52 - Glitched (06/14/2016) [-]
Is there a reason you're linking some random user who did not write the Quran instead of linking quotes from the Quran that condemn the acts of the terrorists?
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#53 - raidaltamimi (06/14/2016) [-]
-sigh- why am I even replying to you?.
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#61 - thegamegestapo (06/14/2016) [-]
I agree with you. In my country people use what football team they support as a justification for violence. People suck, Islam is the trendy excuse but it's not like the motivations aren't primarily political anyway.
#54 - Glitched (06/14/2016) [-]
Because you want to keep sidestepping facts.
Facts like the Quran encourages acts of terror.
It encourages pedophilia.
It encourages beheading.
It encourages destruction of those who are NOT Muslim.

Tell me it says different or admit i am right.
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#127 - toensix (06/14/2016) [-]
Did all communists follow the communist manifesto to the letter?

Did all nazi's follow Mein Kampf to a letter?

Do all Christians follow the Bible to a letter?

Do all Jews follow the Thora to a letter?

Just because the scripture is bad, does not mean the people are bad.

And I'd argue that even the scripture isn't bad because as far as I know:
The Quran makes absolutely no mention of a the age of a woman to marry. That is not encouragement that is just silence.
Beheading is punishment for criminals in the Quran. I see no problem with this as tons and tons of civilizations and even Western countries have or had capital punishment.
Does it encourage the destruction of of non-believers? Only if those don't want to convert. And when we are talking about other abrahamic religions like Christianity and Judaism, shit gets complicated.
#161 - Glitched (06/14/2016) [-]
Communism is not a religion.
Mein Kampf is not a religion.
Christians have evolved.
Jews have evolved.

Muhammad married a girl that was how old?
No problem with killing homosexuals or unbeleivers as a capital punishment? Okay psycho.

"Does it encourage the destruction of of non-believers? Only if those don't want to convert." So you're saying we should all convert and start killing unbelievers and homosexuals? Really psycho now.

Those other religions you mentioned....they have not in the civilized world began a 20 year reign of terror.
#177 - anon (06/14/2016) [-]
Glitched is right.
Bringing up shit from 50+ years ago does not make what current Muslims are doing okay.
For years Islam thought they defeated the west.
Now because of technology they know better.
You're wrong and you need to know that. Maybe one day you will figure that out.
It is the Nazi argument all over again.
Some Nazis were good.
So being a Nazi was okay.

Some Muslims are good....so suicide bombings and beheading fags is okay.
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#174 - toensix (06/14/2016) [-]
No but all of them are ideologies. And I see no difference between ideolgies and religions.

So no, most Christians and Jews do not follow their holy books to a letter. I see no reason why we should take a literal hardcore interpretation of the Quran when we don't do that either for the Bible or the Thora.

Yes Muhammad did that. But he never wrote specifically that it was fine to marry such a young girl. You want to know why he didn't do that? Because it was a really common practice in most of the world at that time, even in Europe.

I've got a problem with the killing of homosexuals but I'm not going get mad because the entire world doesn't accept homosexuals after millenia of bigotry, which the West also did less then 50 years ago.

No I said it's not as simple as saying that 'Islam encourages the destruction of those who are NOT muslim'. I do not think that's a good thing, but I'm not going to single out Islam for it because tons of religions have commands like these in their holy scriptures. And Islam actually makes exceptions for Jews and Christians, something that Christianity or Judaism don't do.

They most definitely have, just not in recent times. You're just going to pretend all the wars waged in name of Christianity didn't happen?
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#20 - erotictentacle (06/14/2016) [-]
This is proving very well that many people DON'T judge the individual, but generalise the group, yet get upset when its done to them.

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#87 - timmywankenobi (06/14/2016) [-]
would you say the same about Nazi's ?
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#90 - erotictentacle (06/14/2016) [-]
Would you hunt down a guy for thinking the jews are at fault of all the bad of the world and that a certain kind of people are superior to others, yet does not act upon it?
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#93 - timmywankenobi (06/14/2016) [-]
If he wore a Nazi uniform and went around yelling " Siegh Heil " , I would make a citizens arrest .
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#94 - erotictentacle (06/14/2016) [-]
well yeah, depending on how loud i'd give him shit too. But because of the volume, not the message.

If you feel the need to opress people's opinions which they do not act upon, then that's you and i don't think that's right. It's like people who want to kill paedophiles who don't want to hurt children by giving in to their urges instead of trying to help them with support groups
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#95 - timmywankenobi (06/14/2016) [-]
If their opinion is that of a ideology that has for centuries preached murder ,rape and hate , I feel disliking them is perfectly acceptable.

You seem to be claiming you would accept a neo -nazi if he said something like " I think all gays and Gypsies and Jews should be executed but I'm personally not going to kill anyone but I'd understand if others did "
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#99 - erotictentacle (06/14/2016) [-]
Hmm, you're right, in such extremes i probably wouldn't accept that.

But the way this started is that i tried to say that many muslims follow their religion about as much as the average christian follows his religion, they just stick to the rough teachings that work well in modern society and i couldn't give a lesser shit if they don't eat during ramadan as long as it doesnt impact their work, which i've seen some people give up on becuase it either got too hot or was plain impossible to work long enough.

But you're right, extreme views like that shouldn't be accepted
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#101 - timmywankenobi (06/14/2016) [-]
The problem is that not all Muslims are this extreme but their ideology is and promotes that fact .

the better a Muslim you are the more you adhere to the will of Allah , the more violent and hateful you become.
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#30 - kibuza (06/14/2016) [-]
We're on the internet. Nobody has time to get to know everything about a person before making a judgement. If all I have to go on is their religion then common sense shows that I should think a Buddhist is a better person than a Muslim just by statistics.

Another example would be: You're going to walk in to a place of worship and say that religious groups deity sucks and doesn't exist. Do you choose a Mosque or a Church? Congrats, you just generalized Muslims as more dangerous and intolerant than Christians.
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#32 - erotictentacle (06/14/2016) [-]
Ok, so basically you're telling me its ok to generalise now?

Guess i should consider all men to be rapists now too
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#35 - kibuza (06/14/2016) [-]
When did I say anything about it being okay? I said it's reasonable to dislike people given those statistics.

Yes, if you were worried about being raped than statistically you should rather want to be naked in a shower full of girls in prison than a shower full of men in prison. Sexual preference not withstanding.
#22 - Glitched (06/14/2016) [-]
My people don't terrorize everyone else for not being the same.


Show me a list of other religions in the last 20 years that has at least half as many kills.
You can't?

Muslims are bad.
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#124 - toensix (06/14/2016) [-]
Why does it have to be the last 20 years? Islam is 1400 years old and many religions in the world are even older. Countless of them have had extremely violent periods. Islam (or rather, Islam in the Middle-East) just happens to have one right now.

#162 - Glitched (06/14/2016) [-]
I reduced it to 20 years.
Because that is the time of technology and civilizations peak.
With all of our advancements they still want to behead people and destroy the world....or convert it.
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#175 - toensix (06/14/2016) [-]

No one wants to destroy the world.

They want to behead people because they think that's a rightful punishment. Law and crime are relative to cultures and civilizations. One can never objectively say what actions deserves what.

The world is a big place. Less then 40 years ago the most advanced nations in the world had massive weapons of destruction pointed at each other over political differences. Are we really that much better?

Yes, we live in the most advanced age ever seen by humans. But how much does a farmer in Afghanistan know or care about that? All he knows is that sometimes his country is bombed by invisible US drones from the sky. Which to such a man would seem no different then an act of God.

What the Middle-Easts needs is stability. Because that's what Islam is to the average person over there. Something to cling to and be a part of when everything else around them can't be relied on and is falling to pieces.

They do not need demonization from people like us. That would only make them stronger in their convictions and would make this whole problem only worse.
#176 - Glitched (06/14/2016) [-]
So they only behead people.
No bombings in Paris.
No planes crashing in America.
No Airports being bombed.

Truth is they want to destroy what they can not convert.
Just like it says in their religious book.

So do the math. They can't convert everyone.....they will attempt to destroy it.
And the world is much smaller than you must think.
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#186 - toensix (06/15/2016) [-]
Oh sur there have been terrible terrorist attacks. But there are 1.6 billion muslims in the world. If it really was a brainwashing and violent as you claim it is, we would have seen many more attacks or even a full scale war.

But we don't because most muslims, especially does that do not live in the Middle-East but in places like South-East Asia, do not give a crap. Of course the attacks you mention have been terrible. But there have been many many more attacks against other muslims then against Westerners. How does that make sense when they supossedly only attack Non-Muslims? Truth is that all the violence in the Middle-East is caused by chaos, instability and no clear direction in life. Islam simply is they way the violence outs itself.
#192 - Glitched (06/15/2016) [-]
Those other Muslims they are attacking.
Aren't true Muslims.

It's like comparing Baptists to Catholics.
Still christian and still use the same book. But different ways of worship.

How many Nazis were there?
How many people did Nazis kill?
A pretty low percentage of them actually did the mass killings. That makes it okay now i guess.
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#197 - toensix (06/16/2016) [-]
If those aren't true muslims then most terrorist organisations aren't true muslims.

And the same would go for those muslims who blow themselves up because the Quran forbids suicide.

Doesn't make it okey, but the civilian popultion of Germany, including nazi-sympathisers, weren't punished. And neither were German soldiers. They made the distinction between the guilty and the innocent without generalizing, which is what we should be doing as well.
#126 - anon (06/14/2016) [-]
@ glitched

Waiting for an answer, buddy
#163 - Glitched (06/14/2016) [-]
I don't respond to anons....they are irrelevant and it is pointless to argue with someone too stupid to sign up for a big boy account.
#24 - anon (06/14/2016) [-]
thing is, not EVERY muslim is a gay-tossing, woman-stoning and child-raping animal.
Look, if i could make a deal that all muslims, good and bad, would disappear, i'd prolly take it.

But i'm not just gonna fuck up a random muslim on the streets that never stepped out of line

Also, thanks for blocking me, really allows for constructive conversations~
#43 - Glitched (06/14/2016) [-]
Still waiting on the list of other religions in the past 20 years that have killed at least half as many people.

Guess i will be waiting a long time.
#85 - anon (06/14/2016) [-]
Maybe you should unblock him and tell him that, faggot
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