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#48 - Here's the bit you forgot. It's a cat, not a human. It's nice… 11/19/2014 on Dog shaming 2 0
#43 - the otherkin bit was a joke, don't worry bout it. I'd save…  [+] (1 new reply) 11/19/2014 on Dog shaming 2 +1
User avatar #44 - elcreepo (11/19/2014) [-]
Cats can do great things though. Not like humans, but still great for a cat.

Also you kind of owe it to the animal, since it can't help itself any more than an infant. But you also owe it to the infant.

I'd probably end up burning myself severely trying to save both at the same time even if it was impossible.
#40 - owning people is slavery dude, it's illegal.you have a respons…  [+] (1 new reply) 11/19/2014 on Dog shaming 2 +1
User avatar #42 - elcreepo (11/19/2014) [-]
According to the law though, you own your children and have full authority over them. I'm not talking ethics here. A person's own child is considered their property and it is up to them, and the school, to decide any course of action the child might take, disciplinary or otherwise.

If that wasn't the case kids who sued their parents over their refusal to allow them to do something would win.

On that last note, I see issues there as well. But if you're just saying "come see momma" to a dog and giving it attention without spoiling it or treating it like a kid, I don't see any harm.
#37 - but that's just wrong, it's an animal not your brother. A lovi…  [+] (8 new replies) 11/19/2014 on Dog shaming 2 0
#41 - Womens Study Major (11/19/2014) [-]
If you raised it from birth, fed it, watered it, took it to the vet. Watched them grow up, a bond between you two only expanding day after day. That's almost like saying "That's your adopted human, he's not your child!"
User avatar #48 - wesselite (11/19/2014) [-]
Here's the bit you forgot. It's a cat, not a human. It's nice for you if you did that, I know I've done it a few times but they're still not my children.
User avatar #39 - elcreepo (11/19/2014) [-]
And yeah you probably think it's wrong to see domestic animals as equal to humans but I do. It has nothing to do with seeing them as being related in any way to me, either. I just like giving the same respect I get.

I wouldn't kill an animal just because if I do I wouldn't get into any serious trouble. And I would pay a decent amount of money to make sure the animal is healthy and doesn't suffer when it comes time to die. I'd try to save both a cat and an infant from a fire, I don't know which I would chose if I could only save one. That's like asking a mother which child she'd chose in a fire.

I guess I just don't feel superior. nothing to do with otherkin here I just have a respect for animals, maybe because I was raised with cats but whatever, I know I'm not a cat, and I know cats should not be treated as humans but as cats. They're cats, not babies, and they can get hurt if you try to treat them like one.
User avatar #43 - wesselite (11/19/2014) [-]
the otherkin bit was a joke, don't worry bout it.
I'd save the baby because they could grow up to be someone who created something beautiful, the cat might help someone be something great but could never do it themselves.
User avatar #44 - elcreepo (11/19/2014) [-]
Cats can do great things though. Not like humans, but still great for a cat.

Also you kind of owe it to the animal, since it can't help itself any more than an infant. But you also owe it to the infant.

I'd probably end up burning myself severely trying to save both at the same time even if it was impossible.
User avatar #38 - elcreepo (11/19/2014) [-]
It's not treating it like a human but a "part of the family"

You own your kids and your dogs equally, at least until the kids hit 16 in most states.

I own cats though and I treat them as cats, so I don't really know shit about the whole "calling yourself the mother of a dog" sort of thing. Cats are more or less nonhuman equals that should be treated with respect as cats, not humans.

But I guess I can understand it. what if they fed it from a bottle because it was rejected as a pup or something, I dunno. People do strange things. Let it be I guess.
User avatar #40 - wesselite (11/19/2014) [-]
owning people is slavery dude, it's illegal.you have a responsibility to the kid to care for them because you brought them into the world, but you have a responsibility because you took it to take care of.

Calling them your child can lead to issues because they start treating it as a child, giving them too much freedom to do what they want and feeding it human food.
User avatar #42 - elcreepo (11/19/2014) [-]
According to the law though, you own your children and have full authority over them. I'm not talking ethics here. A person's own child is considered their property and it is up to them, and the school, to decide any course of action the child might take, disciplinary or otherwise.

If that wasn't the case kids who sued their parents over their refusal to allow them to do something would win.

On that last note, I see issues there as well. But if you're just saying "come see momma" to a dog and giving it attention without spoiling it or treating it like a kid, I don't see any harm.
#32 - they are part of the family, they're just not your kid.  [+] (10 new replies) 11/19/2014 on Dog shaming 2 +4
User avatar #36 - elcreepo (11/19/2014) [-]
if they're part of the family then they're like an adopted sibling

henceforth you're their mom/dad
User avatar #37 - wesselite (11/19/2014) [-]
but that's just wrong, it's an animal not your brother. A loving and caring animal sure but still not a human.
inb4 otherkin hate.
#41 - Womens Study Major (11/19/2014) [-]
If you raised it from birth, fed it, watered it, took it to the vet. Watched them grow up, a bond between you two only expanding day after day. That's almost like saying "That's your adopted human, he's not your child!"
User avatar #48 - wesselite (11/19/2014) [-]
Here's the bit you forgot. It's a cat, not a human. It's nice for you if you did that, I know I've done it a few times but they're still not my children.
User avatar #39 - elcreepo (11/19/2014) [-]
And yeah you probably think it's wrong to see domestic animals as equal to humans but I do. It has nothing to do with seeing them as being related in any way to me, either. I just like giving the same respect I get.

I wouldn't kill an animal just because if I do I wouldn't get into any serious trouble. And I would pay a decent amount of money to make sure the animal is healthy and doesn't suffer when it comes time to die. I'd try to save both a cat and an infant from a fire, I don't know which I would chose if I could only save one. That's like asking a mother which child she'd chose in a fire.

I guess I just don't feel superior. nothing to do with otherkin here I just have a respect for animals, maybe because I was raised with cats but whatever, I know I'm not a cat, and I know cats should not be treated as humans but as cats. They're cats, not babies, and they can get hurt if you try to treat them like one.
User avatar #43 - wesselite (11/19/2014) [-]
the otherkin bit was a joke, don't worry bout it.
I'd save the baby because they could grow up to be someone who created something beautiful, the cat might help someone be something great but could never do it themselves.
User avatar #44 - elcreepo (11/19/2014) [-]
Cats can do great things though. Not like humans, but still great for a cat.

Also you kind of owe it to the animal, since it can't help itself any more than an infant. But you also owe it to the infant.

I'd probably end up burning myself severely trying to save both at the same time even if it was impossible.
User avatar #38 - elcreepo (11/19/2014) [-]
It's not treating it like a human but a "part of the family"

You own your kids and your dogs equally, at least until the kids hit 16 in most states.

I own cats though and I treat them as cats, so I don't really know shit about the whole "calling yourself the mother of a dog" sort of thing. Cats are more or less nonhuman equals that should be treated with respect as cats, not humans.

But I guess I can understand it. what if they fed it from a bottle because it was rejected as a pup or something, I dunno. People do strange things. Let it be I guess.
User avatar #40 - wesselite (11/19/2014) [-]
owning people is slavery dude, it's illegal.you have a responsibility to the kid to care for them because you brought them into the world, but you have a responsibility because you took it to take care of.

Calling them your child can lead to issues because they start treating it as a child, giving them too much freedom to do what they want and feeding it human food.
User avatar #42 - elcreepo (11/19/2014) [-]
According to the law though, you own your children and have full authority over them. I'm not talking ethics here. A person's own child is considered their property and it is up to them, and the school, to decide any course of action the child might take, disciplinary or otherwise.

If that wasn't the case kids who sued their parents over their refusal to allow them to do something would win.

On that last note, I see issues there as well. But if you're just saying "come see momma" to a dog and giving it attention without spoiling it or treating it like a kid, I don't see any harm.
#62 - Men are already 3 times more likely to commit suicide than wom… 11/16/2014 on Anita Sarkeesian 0
#6 - Kinda sad how often I have to use this currently 11/16/2014 on No Excuse +5
#118 - the entire thing about it being about pros…  [+] (1 new reply) 09/27/2014 on Spirited Away 0
#120 - hazenberdan (09/27/2014) [-]
Now that's one I haven't heard.
#56 - she represents innocence and purity. He symbolises greed. It's…  [+] (1 new reply) 09/26/2014 on Spirited Away 0
User avatar #59 - planejane (09/26/2014) [-]
Yeah that makes sense too
#55 - it is just a kids' movie, it's incorrect  [+] (3 new replies) 09/26/2014 on Spirited Away +1
#114 - hazenberdan (09/26/2014) [-]
Proof please?
User avatar #118 - wesselite (09/27/2014) [-]
www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/interviews/sen.html



the entire thing about it being about prostitution is a fan made thing, same as Totoro being a Shinigami.
#120 - hazenberdan (09/27/2014) [-]
Now that's one I haven't heard.
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