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#19 - That guy looks almost exactly like an old supervisor I had. I'… 08/20/2015 on Real Bravery +2
#20 - They don't really seem like "thugs". They had an act… 08/20/2015 on Good guy thugs 0
#15 - He's got some range. It just happens that his Morty voice is m… 08/20/2015 on get him! +1
#3 - They are apparently making a new Peewee movie. I don't know ho… 08/20/2015 on Oh Stamper 0
#12 - I'm interested in starting Stalker, but I know very little abo…  [+] (11 new replies) 08/20/2015 on When someone says theres no... +1
#58 - anon (08/20/2015) [-]
Also its based on a russian short story thats lot like a game, but it makes more sense.
#13 - sniffythebird (08/20/2015) [-]
Shadow of Chernobyl came out in 2007.
Clear Sky came out in 2008.
Call of Pripyat came out in 2009.

Best thing is to just play them in that order.

The background for the story/environment is that there was a second nuclear explosion in Chernobyl, and it's caused a lot of mutations and sort of supernatural effects, not only on animals and humans, but also nature. There's a bit more to the story than just the explosion, but essentially after that, it's created the area called "The Zone", which is cordoned off by the military. But people (mercenaries and other various people) still get in to explore and hunt for artifacts which are valuable on the black market. There's a bunch of different factions too (Military, Bandits, Freedom, Duty, free STALKERs, Monolith, etc). STALKER stands for Scavenger, Trespasser, Adventurer, Loner, Killer, Explorer, Robber, and is sort of a vague definition of most people there. There's also traders who sell weapons and supplies.

The stories for the individual games themselves vary a bit. In SoC you play as an unknown person who wakes up with amnesia and goes out to find out who he is, and about his mission to "Kill Strelok".

CS takes place before SoC as a different character, an unnamed mercenary (he's just nicknamed Merc ingame). Merc's story starts out as he survives something called an emission, which is basically a huge storm of some sort that normally kills anything caught in it, but he somehow can survive them. He then arrives with a faction called Clear Sky, who are scientist types researching the zone, and eventually he goes further into the zone along with STALKERs and can also choose to join either Freedom or Duty, two rival factions, but also Bandits or free STALKERs. I can't really tell more about the story without spoiling it as it kind of ties into the story of SoC.

Call of Pripyat's story has much less to do with the first two games. You play as Major Alexander Degtyarev, who is sent to the zone to investigate a group of crashed helicopters, find any remaining survivors of the crew and get them out. That simple mission turns into a whole lot more eventually, one big part of it involves travelling to Pripyat, which is the city closest to the nuclear power plant. Lots of cool but dangerous stuff there.

Gameplay is overall pretty similar across all three. The first two are a bit linear because the playable area / map is kind of a straight line towards the end, whereas CoP is just 3 big maps. Though not as open world as Fallout 3. It's mostly story oriented missions for all games, but there are side missions and random places to explore too. There's also quite a few missions that have multiple outcomes depending on choices or even which characters die or not.

Gameplay is FPS shooter, but with some RPG elements (armor, weapons, ammo, upgrades, supplies, etc), though there is no leveling or abilities. Combat is tricky if you're new to the game, because guns behave anything but how they do in most FPS games. Don't expect to hit that guy you've perfectly aimed your sights at, because guns (especially early ones) have crap accuracy and bullet spread. Bodyshots do very little damage too, so go for headshots as much as possible. Stealth is also important, but it can be a bit wonky because the AI isn't that great.

The atmosphere and mood is probably the best aspect of these games. You REALLY feel like you're in that post apocalyptic and polluted environment. Some areas are just hands down spooky, and even walking around in Pripyat while the sun is shining and no danger is in sight, it really hits you how eerie a ghost town is. The weather and sound effects add even more to it. And sometimes you'll just ffind a group of STALKERs chilling around a campire, one guy playing a guitar, and you're just 100% immersed.

The games have some bugs and quirks, but still they're awesome.

User avatar #67 - wertologist (08/20/2015) [-]
Thanks. I will try to pick up a copy the next time it goes on sale.
User avatar #45 - upunkpunk (08/20/2015) [-]
Downloading Shadow of Chernobyl right now.
User avatar #16 - stalkerexplain (08/20/2015) [-]
Also, the most important thing is, to NEVER play S.T.A.L.K.E.R on a difficulty lower than the highest one.

It's because the difficulty system is so fucked up, that the level is set by the ammount of damage you receive, AND GIVE. Some of the bullets are simply not registered as damage. That turns enemies into bullet sponges.
#29 - dwarfboy (08/20/2015) [-]
what. You're fucking with me, right? Y-you gotta be fucking with me.

Goddamn it Stalker.
User avatar #21 - sniffythebird (08/20/2015) [-]
Do you mean you "give" less damage on lower difficulties? I've never noticed that, but enemies seem like sponges no matter what, except if getting headshots. I do notice armored enemies sponge more bodyshots, obviously.

I rarely play on anything but max difficulty though, so yeah. Only my first playthrough of SoC and CS were on moderate, I was like 15 years old, sucked at the game, and my PC was so crappy it could barely chug through them.
User avatar #23 - stalkerexplain (08/20/2015) [-]
Yes, you deal less damage on lower difficulties, as up to 40% shots aren't even registered as dealing damage.
#25 - sniffythebird (08/20/2015) [-]
If only I had known that back in 2007, then a certain keyboard wouldn't have been broken...

But I knew it... I fuckign knew it. I kept ranting in skype calls with my friends while I was playing, that my bullets just weren't doing any damage as I put a full magazine of 7.62mm rounds straight into a zombie's chest at point blank, only to die of 1 or 2 bullets afterwards.
#15 - mumbojumbowumbo (08/20/2015) [-]
Clear Sky's protagonist is named Scar btw.
#20 - sniffythebird (08/20/2015) [-]
I forgot about that...
#13 - In case you are wondering where it is in NV, I believe it is a… 08/20/2015 on i dun goofed 0
#53 - Just checked the Webster definition. "a soldier who g…  [+] (1 new reply) 08/20/2015 on (untitled) 0
User avatar #71 - thevaulthunter (08/20/2015) [-]
Precisely. That turret is quite simply a tool. The controller would be the one keeping watch, not the gun itself, and thus, he or she would be the sentry.
#12 - I don't really think any of them are iconic. As for TF2, I don… 08/19/2015 on (untitled) 0
#10 - I don't know. TF2 isn't the only thing that has automated sent…  [+] (2 new replies) 08/19/2015 on (untitled) 0
User avatar #11 - inuares (08/19/2015) [-]
My thoughts go immediately to tf2 because the engie sentry seems to be one of the most iconic. But yeah, there are a lot of games with sentries in them. Bioshock, Hero siege, Portal, Fallout, Half-life, Borderlands, etc. I'd still say the engie's sentry is the most known, wouldn't you? If not, what do you think is the most iconic?
User avatar #12 - wertologist (08/19/2015) [-]
I don't really think any of them are iconic. As for TF2, I don't play it. I think a sentry gun is just too common to be coined by one game/movie.
#4 - I love the show, but I hate some of the fandom. I think even t… 08/19/2015 on Gluten 0
#7 - I'm not sure it works that way. For example, a guard can be ca…  [+] (7 new replies) 08/19/2015 on (untitled) 0
User avatar #16 - thevaulthunter (08/19/2015) [-]
But it does not keep watch if it needs to be controlled. It's just a turret. The one controlling it would be a sentry.
User avatar #53 - wertologist (08/20/2015) [-]
Just checked the Webster definition.
"a soldier who guards a door, gate, etc.".
User avatar #71 - thevaulthunter (08/20/2015) [-]
Precisely. That turret is quite simply a tool. The controller would be the one keeping watch, not the gun itself, and thus, he or she would be the sentry.
User avatar #9 - inuares (08/19/2015) [-]
I think it was a tf2 reference.
User avatar #10 - wertologist (08/19/2015) [-]
I don't know. TF2 isn't the only thing that has automated sentry so if it is a reference, it could be to many things. Fallout 3/Vegas has sentry turrets and so does Half Life 2. Many things have them.
User avatar #11 - inuares (08/19/2015) [-]
My thoughts go immediately to tf2 because the engie sentry seems to be one of the most iconic. But yeah, there are a lot of games with sentries in them. Bioshock, Hero siege, Portal, Fallout, Half-life, Borderlands, etc. I'd still say the engie's sentry is the most known, wouldn't you? If not, what do you think is the most iconic?
User avatar #12 - wertologist (08/19/2015) [-]
I don't really think any of them are iconic. As for TF2, I don't play it. I think a sentry gun is just too common to be coined by one game/movie.
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#140 - thatonecommunist (08/19/2015) [-]
Nothing eats either of those things exclusively, they are complete wastes of life.
User avatar #36 - flnonymousseven (08/18/2015) [-]
so I've heard, but I don't know nearly enough about bioecology to make a call like that.
#304 - To be fair, not every kids show is only meant for kids. I don'… 08/18/2015 on Disturbing 0
#186 - You don't seem to be getting my point. My point is that it rea… 08/18/2015 on Disturbing +1
#176 - Then it has stuff from the MLP universe and is just a crossove…  [+] (2 new replies) 08/18/2015 on Disturbing +1
User avatar #178 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
you're running out of reasons it shouldn't exist. you already used most of those.

I'm also running out of different ways to tell you, soooooo i'm done. you win whatever game it was you were playing. I just wanted to try and break somebody out of their shell and enjoy some literature.

Fag.
User avatar #186 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
You don't seem to be getting my point. My point is that it really is out of place and that's why people are upset by it. As for my repeated examples, you haven't really acknowledged them so I brought them back up. You keep trying to defend something that has no place being where it is. Trying to get me to read MLP fan-fiction is something I have no desire to do. I do not like MLP. I do not have interest in MLP. Why would I want to read MLP fan-fiction? I like Fallout, but that doesn't mean I'll read any fan-fiction out there just because it's Fallout. You're not "trying to break somebody out of their shell". You want me to read a fan-fiction about MLP. Regardless of good writing or not, it is still MLP fan-fiction and something I have no desire to read.
#173 - >realistic to the lore and universe >fly >pon…  [+] (4 new replies) 08/18/2015 on Disturbing +1
User avatar #174 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
in the MLP universe, there is their logical (illogical in real world, but logical in theirs) explanation of why each different race exists. it makes sense in their world, so it works in their world.
What reason do people have for having wings? are they even people? are they some weird animal? Why do they look so much like us? if technology was already progressed far enough to give people wings, then why didn't this seed of corruption planted by new technologies already spread before we had bird people?
There's too many questions and cause and effect trees that don't correlate to the plot.

and maybe it's not just fanfics that you have anything against (how could you, you haven't read any of them), but you most obviously have something against the MLP community. I don't know what it did to you, but it's obviously got you stuck in some rut of stereotyping that just isn't any thing worth being pulled into. ruins your perception of things and people too quickly. learn to look at something objectively rather than with your pre-disposition.
User avatar #176 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
Then it has stuff from the MLP universe and is just a crossover.

What reason do people have for having wings? are they even people? are they some weird animal? Why do they look so much like us? if technology was already progressed far enough to give people wings, then why didn't this seed of corruption planted by new technologies already spread before we had bird people?

Those questions can all be answered if the writers are willing to actually try. It's not hard to come up with that stuff if you've got a good story. With what they have they are just adding MLP stuff into Fallout from the sound of it. I'm not the one writing the fan-fiction so I don't have to answer those questions. Those questions also wouldn't exist if it wasn't an MLP fan-fiction. If they didn't have any form of ponies it would be different. No matter what you say, ponies just don't belong in Fallout. Even if it is fan-fiction, you are still trying to completely change the whole subject(in this case ponies) into something that is completely different and has nothing to do with it(Fallout). There isn't really an in-between with those two. One is a colorful children's cartoon and the other is a post-apocalyptic RPG with a lot of death and violence. They are too drastically different.
User avatar #178 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
you're running out of reasons it shouldn't exist. you already used most of those.

I'm also running out of different ways to tell you, soooooo i'm done. you win whatever game it was you were playing. I just wanted to try and break somebody out of their shell and enjoy some literature.

Fag.
User avatar #186 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
You don't seem to be getting my point. My point is that it really is out of place and that's why people are upset by it. As for my repeated examples, you haven't really acknowledged them so I brought them back up. You keep trying to defend something that has no place being where it is. Trying to get me to read MLP fan-fiction is something I have no desire to do. I do not like MLP. I do not have interest in MLP. Why would I want to read MLP fan-fiction? I like Fallout, but that doesn't mean I'll read any fan-fiction out there just because it's Fallout. You're not "trying to break somebody out of their shell". You want me to read a fan-fiction about MLP. Regardless of good writing or not, it is still MLP fan-fiction and something I have no desire to read.
#171 - There is also a difference between "close-minded" an… 08/18/2015 on Disturbing +1
#169 - I never once said anything bad about the story. I only state t…  [+] (6 new replies) 08/18/2015 on Disturbing +1
User avatar #172 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
because it's all been done before.
that, and it's hard to give humans the ability to fly and still try and keep it reasonably realistic to the lore and universe....

it's just something that isn't boring. it's fresh and new and it works well. That's my explanation of why people should read it. If that's not enough to convince you to read it, then i doubt anything else will either.
User avatar #173 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
>realistic to the lore and universe
>fly
>ponies

If they wrote a fan-fiction where flying magical ponies makes sense then they can obviously find a way to make humans able to do that and cut out the ponies. My whole point is that the ponies seem highly necessary. I have nothing against fan-fiction(I don't read them), but at this point it is just convert a child's cartoon about ponies into a gritty post apocalyptic universe. If it has nothing to do with the show other than the ponies, then why include them? If they wrote out a whole massive story then they can come up with something else. It's just bad to try to re-write whole stories like that. It's like a shitty crossover.
User avatar #174 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
in the MLP universe, there is their logical (illogical in real world, but logical in theirs) explanation of why each different race exists. it makes sense in their world, so it works in their world.
What reason do people have for having wings? are they even people? are they some weird animal? Why do they look so much like us? if technology was already progressed far enough to give people wings, then why didn't this seed of corruption planted by new technologies already spread before we had bird people?
There's too many questions and cause and effect trees that don't correlate to the plot.

and maybe it's not just fanfics that you have anything against (how could you, you haven't read any of them), but you most obviously have something against the MLP community. I don't know what it did to you, but it's obviously got you stuck in some rut of stereotyping that just isn't any thing worth being pulled into. ruins your perception of things and people too quickly. learn to look at something objectively rather than with your pre-disposition.
User avatar #176 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
Then it has stuff from the MLP universe and is just a crossover.

What reason do people have for having wings? are they even people? are they some weird animal? Why do they look so much like us? if technology was already progressed far enough to give people wings, then why didn't this seed of corruption planted by new technologies already spread before we had bird people?

Those questions can all be answered if the writers are willing to actually try. It's not hard to come up with that stuff if you've got a good story. With what they have they are just adding MLP stuff into Fallout from the sound of it. I'm not the one writing the fan-fiction so I don't have to answer those questions. Those questions also wouldn't exist if it wasn't an MLP fan-fiction. If they didn't have any form of ponies it would be different. No matter what you say, ponies just don't belong in Fallout. Even if it is fan-fiction, you are still trying to completely change the whole subject(in this case ponies) into something that is completely different and has nothing to do with it(Fallout). There isn't really an in-between with those two. One is a colorful children's cartoon and the other is a post-apocalyptic RPG with a lot of death and violence. They are too drastically different.
User avatar #178 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
you're running out of reasons it shouldn't exist. you already used most of those.

I'm also running out of different ways to tell you, soooooo i'm done. you win whatever game it was you were playing. I just wanted to try and break somebody out of their shell and enjoy some literature.

Fag.
User avatar #186 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
You don't seem to be getting my point. My point is that it really is out of place and that's why people are upset by it. As for my repeated examples, you haven't really acknowledged them so I brought them back up. You keep trying to defend something that has no place being where it is. Trying to get me to read MLP fan-fiction is something I have no desire to do. I do not like MLP. I do not have interest in MLP. Why would I want to read MLP fan-fiction? I like Fallout, but that doesn't mean I'll read any fan-fiction out there just because it's Fallout. You're not "trying to break somebody out of their shell". You want me to read a fan-fiction about MLP. Regardless of good writing or not, it is still MLP fan-fiction and something I have no desire to read.
#159 - If each race has different abilities, then why not just make n…  [+] (9 new replies) 08/18/2015 on Disturbing +1
User avatar #163 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
Well if you're too close minded to even attempt to read it, then i don't think you actually care too much about reading in the first place. So i don't think you have any reason to try and bad mouth a novel somebody poured a lot of time and effort into writing.

quick come up with three new, creative, recognizable, easy to imagine, cognizant beings to mesh into a post-apocalyptic world that was corrupted from its original peaceful utopian beginnings.
Sometimes it's easier to incorporate other ideas into a story than to try and just freeball some fresh critter and different world that only you can imagine. That's why it's a fanfic and not a stand alone book. That and the trademark laws that would interfere with anything like that being actually published....
User avatar #171 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
There is also a difference between "close-minded" and "I don't like MLP fan-fiction". Just like you wouldn't be close-minded if you didn't want to do something you had no interest in doing and it perverted what you liked.
User avatar #169 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
I never once said anything bad about the story. I only state that the ponies part is completely unnecessary. I said I have no interest in reading MLP fan-fiction, but I also said you are more than welcome to try to explain it to me.

I'm not saying it's easy to come up with that crap. I'm saying shoving ponies into it is just bad. From what you've said, the ponies are all different races and have different abilities. Why not just use human races instead of ponies that have nothing to do with the Fallout universe? They are shoving MLP ponies into something they do not belong in. Even if you wrote a very interesting story about ponies in Fallout, it still is just shoving ponies in. If the story has nothing to do wit MLP, then why use MLP as the base? If person/these people can come up with a good story with good characters, that means they have good creative minds. If they have good creative minds, I'm willing to bet they could have come up with something to use instead of ponies. Using ponies is just really weird for Fallout. Fan-fiction or not, they still do not belong in Fallout. It would be one thing to mix two post apocalyptic things like Walking Dead and Fallout, but using ponies and Fallout is just atrocious.
User avatar #172 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
because it's all been done before.
that, and it's hard to give humans the ability to fly and still try and keep it reasonably realistic to the lore and universe....

it's just something that isn't boring. it's fresh and new and it works well. That's my explanation of why people should read it. If that's not enough to convince you to read it, then i doubt anything else will either.
User avatar #173 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
>realistic to the lore and universe
>fly
>ponies

If they wrote a fan-fiction where flying magical ponies makes sense then they can obviously find a way to make humans able to do that and cut out the ponies. My whole point is that the ponies seem highly necessary. I have nothing against fan-fiction(I don't read them), but at this point it is just convert a child's cartoon about ponies into a gritty post apocalyptic universe. If it has nothing to do with the show other than the ponies, then why include them? If they wrote out a whole massive story then they can come up with something else. It's just bad to try to re-write whole stories like that. It's like a shitty crossover.
User avatar #174 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
in the MLP universe, there is their logical (illogical in real world, but logical in theirs) explanation of why each different race exists. it makes sense in their world, so it works in their world.
What reason do people have for having wings? are they even people? are they some weird animal? Why do they look so much like us? if technology was already progressed far enough to give people wings, then why didn't this seed of corruption planted by new technologies already spread before we had bird people?
There's too many questions and cause and effect trees that don't correlate to the plot.

and maybe it's not just fanfics that you have anything against (how could you, you haven't read any of them), but you most obviously have something against the MLP community. I don't know what it did to you, but it's obviously got you stuck in some rut of stereotyping that just isn't any thing worth being pulled into. ruins your perception of things and people too quickly. learn to look at something objectively rather than with your pre-disposition.
User avatar #176 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
Then it has stuff from the MLP universe and is just a crossover.

What reason do people have for having wings? are they even people? are they some weird animal? Why do they look so much like us? if technology was already progressed far enough to give people wings, then why didn't this seed of corruption planted by new technologies already spread before we had bird people?

Those questions can all be answered if the writers are willing to actually try. It's not hard to come up with that stuff if you've got a good story. With what they have they are just adding MLP stuff into Fallout from the sound of it. I'm not the one writing the fan-fiction so I don't have to answer those questions. Those questions also wouldn't exist if it wasn't an MLP fan-fiction. If they didn't have any form of ponies it would be different. No matter what you say, ponies just don't belong in Fallout. Even if it is fan-fiction, you are still trying to completely change the whole subject(in this case ponies) into something that is completely different and has nothing to do with it(Fallout). There isn't really an in-between with those two. One is a colorful children's cartoon and the other is a post-apocalyptic RPG with a lot of death and violence. They are too drastically different.
User avatar #178 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
you're running out of reasons it shouldn't exist. you already used most of those.

I'm also running out of different ways to tell you, soooooo i'm done. you win whatever game it was you were playing. I just wanted to try and break somebody out of their shell and enjoy some literature.

Fag.
User avatar #186 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
You don't seem to be getting my point. My point is that it really is out of place and that's why people are upset by it. As for my repeated examples, you haven't really acknowledged them so I brought them back up. You keep trying to defend something that has no place being where it is. Trying to get me to read MLP fan-fiction is something I have no desire to do. I do not like MLP. I do not have interest in MLP. Why would I want to read MLP fan-fiction? I like Fallout, but that doesn't mean I'll read any fan-fiction out there just because it's Fallout. You're not "trying to break somebody out of their shell". You want me to read a fan-fiction about MLP. Regardless of good writing or not, it is still MLP fan-fiction and something I have no desire to read.
#88 - The only things I support being pirated are EA games and old g… 08/18/2015 on Windows 10 Can Disable... +5
#154 - That isn't the point. It doesn't matter if it is well written.…  [+] (11 new replies) 08/18/2015 on Disturbing +1
User avatar #155 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
It's hard to just explain to you without having to go into the story itself... I'd suggest reading the first chapter that I posted at the very beginning of all of this (which i sort of did to try and avoid trying to explain it all myself) but it sounds like you're incredibly against way it is the idea....

Ig the way it's not just a story about ponies, but can't really be changed from it's current form is because the poines have different races. Like, drastically and recognizably different. Because each of these races are different, they each can accomplish certain things that the other ones can't.
That difference adds an extra dimension to the story, much like races do in other fantasy settings (I.E. Humans, elves, and dwarves). And one of the reasons i personally think the story is good is because of the fact that it utilizes these different races very well, and also does it in a way that is fresh and new and inventive. Something that I really like to see since I've read a lot of things from a lot of different people and have noticed a lot of repeating patterns.
User avatar #159 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
If each race has different abilities, then why not just make new races instead of ponies? In the end they are still shoving ponies into Fallout. Nothing you can say can change that. From what you've said, the ponies could be cut out from the whole story and it wouldn't make a difference. That means they are just shoving ponies in. If by different abilities you mean magical abilities then that itself if out of place in Fallout. Fallout is not magical. The closest it came to being magical was that book quest in Point Lookout.

I have no desire to read MLP fan-fiction so I'm not going to read it. You're welcome to try to explain it to me, but I'm not going to read MLP fan-fiction. I'm for fan-fiction that makes sense(I don't read fan-fiction, but if someone makes a mod that adds some then I might try it. Like Magicka Sabers in Skyrim). This MLP Fallout still is just ponies in Fallout. Regardless of having a well written story or not, the fact is that MLP has nothing in common with Fallout so it is just ridiculous to combine them.
User avatar #163 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
Well if you're too close minded to even attempt to read it, then i don't think you actually care too much about reading in the first place. So i don't think you have any reason to try and bad mouth a novel somebody poured a lot of time and effort into writing.

quick come up with three new, creative, recognizable, easy to imagine, cognizant beings to mesh into a post-apocalyptic world that was corrupted from its original peaceful utopian beginnings.
Sometimes it's easier to incorporate other ideas into a story than to try and just freeball some fresh critter and different world that only you can imagine. That's why it's a fanfic and not a stand alone book. That and the trademark laws that would interfere with anything like that being actually published....
User avatar #171 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
There is also a difference between "close-minded" and "I don't like MLP fan-fiction". Just like you wouldn't be close-minded if you didn't want to do something you had no interest in doing and it perverted what you liked.
User avatar #169 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
I never once said anything bad about the story. I only state that the ponies part is completely unnecessary. I said I have no interest in reading MLP fan-fiction, but I also said you are more than welcome to try to explain it to me.

I'm not saying it's easy to come up with that crap. I'm saying shoving ponies into it is just bad. From what you've said, the ponies are all different races and have different abilities. Why not just use human races instead of ponies that have nothing to do with the Fallout universe? They are shoving MLP ponies into something they do not belong in. Even if you wrote a very interesting story about ponies in Fallout, it still is just shoving ponies in. If the story has nothing to do wit MLP, then why use MLP as the base? If person/these people can come up with a good story with good characters, that means they have good creative minds. If they have good creative minds, I'm willing to bet they could have come up with something to use instead of ponies. Using ponies is just really weird for Fallout. Fan-fiction or not, they still do not belong in Fallout. It would be one thing to mix two post apocalyptic things like Walking Dead and Fallout, but using ponies and Fallout is just atrocious.
User avatar #172 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
because it's all been done before.
that, and it's hard to give humans the ability to fly and still try and keep it reasonably realistic to the lore and universe....

it's just something that isn't boring. it's fresh and new and it works well. That's my explanation of why people should read it. If that's not enough to convince you to read it, then i doubt anything else will either.
User avatar #173 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
>realistic to the lore and universe
>fly
>ponies

If they wrote a fan-fiction where flying magical ponies makes sense then they can obviously find a way to make humans able to do that and cut out the ponies. My whole point is that the ponies seem highly necessary. I have nothing against fan-fiction(I don't read them), but at this point it is just convert a child's cartoon about ponies into a gritty post apocalyptic universe. If it has nothing to do with the show other than the ponies, then why include them? If they wrote out a whole massive story then they can come up with something else. It's just bad to try to re-write whole stories like that. It's like a shitty crossover.
User avatar #174 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
in the MLP universe, there is their logical (illogical in real world, but logical in theirs) explanation of why each different race exists. it makes sense in their world, so it works in their world.
What reason do people have for having wings? are they even people? are they some weird animal? Why do they look so much like us? if technology was already progressed far enough to give people wings, then why didn't this seed of corruption planted by new technologies already spread before we had bird people?
There's too many questions and cause and effect trees that don't correlate to the plot.

and maybe it's not just fanfics that you have anything against (how could you, you haven't read any of them), but you most obviously have something against the MLP community. I don't know what it did to you, but it's obviously got you stuck in some rut of stereotyping that just isn't any thing worth being pulled into. ruins your perception of things and people too quickly. learn to look at something objectively rather than with your pre-disposition.
User avatar #176 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
Then it has stuff from the MLP universe and is just a crossover.

What reason do people have for having wings? are they even people? are they some weird animal? Why do they look so much like us? if technology was already progressed far enough to give people wings, then why didn't this seed of corruption planted by new technologies already spread before we had bird people?

Those questions can all be answered if the writers are willing to actually try. It's not hard to come up with that stuff if you've got a good story. With what they have they are just adding MLP stuff into Fallout from the sound of it. I'm not the one writing the fan-fiction so I don't have to answer those questions. Those questions also wouldn't exist if it wasn't an MLP fan-fiction. If they didn't have any form of ponies it would be different. No matter what you say, ponies just don't belong in Fallout. Even if it is fan-fiction, you are still trying to completely change the whole subject(in this case ponies) into something that is completely different and has nothing to do with it(Fallout). There isn't really an in-between with those two. One is a colorful children's cartoon and the other is a post-apocalyptic RPG with a lot of death and violence. They are too drastically different.
User avatar #178 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
you're running out of reasons it shouldn't exist. you already used most of those.

I'm also running out of different ways to tell you, soooooo i'm done. you win whatever game it was you were playing. I just wanted to try and break somebody out of their shell and enjoy some literature.

Fag.
User avatar #186 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
You don't seem to be getting my point. My point is that it really is out of place and that's why people are upset by it. As for my repeated examples, you haven't really acknowledged them so I brought them back up. You keep trying to defend something that has no place being where it is. Trying to get me to read MLP fan-fiction is something I have no desire to do. I do not like MLP. I do not have interest in MLP. Why would I want to read MLP fan-fiction? I like Fallout, but that doesn't mean I'll read any fan-fiction out there just because it's Fallout. You're not "trying to break somebody out of their shell". You want me to read a fan-fiction about MLP. Regardless of good writing or not, it is still MLP fan-fiction and something I have no desire to read.
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User avatar #153 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
But that IS the point.
That it's not just cringey ponies. It's just literature that implements the more savvy aspects of the MLP universe. It adds a cool and peculiar twist to the story outside of just another grim/dark fanfic of fallout.
I feel like the group of people who are making the game are making it more as a tip of whatever hat they wear to the original story written, not just because, "HurrDurr lets shove ponies in a game."

It can't be judged just by what universe it's in if it's still a good story to read. I don't think it deserves as much flak as it's getting from the "classier" communities.
User avatar #154 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
That isn't the point. It doesn't matter if it is well written. It is still trying to combine two entirely different things. If it has nothing to do with MLP, then why not just cut out the ponies? It is a perversion of both series. It'd be like trying to shove ponies into Star Wars or Walking Dead.

"I feel like the group of people who are making the game are making it more as a tip of whatever hat they wear to the original story written, not just because, "HurrDurr lets shove ponies in a game.""
That sounds exactly like it's just shoving ponies in. From what it seems, it is no different than FO3 other than the fact it has ponies instead of people.

In order for it to not just be some cheesy fan-fiction, it would have to have nothing in common with MLP. If it has nothing to do with MLP, then why put them in? It sounds like they are trying to shove ponies in it to me. It's be like re-writing Star Wars, but with Minions.
User avatar #155 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
It's hard to just explain to you without having to go into the story itself... I'd suggest reading the first chapter that I posted at the very beginning of all of this (which i sort of did to try and avoid trying to explain it all myself) but it sounds like you're incredibly against way it is the idea....

Ig the way it's not just a story about ponies, but can't really be changed from it's current form is because the poines have different races. Like, drastically and recognizably different. Because each of these races are different, they each can accomplish certain things that the other ones can't.
That difference adds an extra dimension to the story, much like races do in other fantasy settings (I.E. Humans, elves, and dwarves). And one of the reasons i personally think the story is good is because of the fact that it utilizes these different races very well, and also does it in a way that is fresh and new and inventive. Something that I really like to see since I've read a lot of things from a lot of different people and have noticed a lot of repeating patterns.
User avatar #159 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
If each race has different abilities, then why not just make new races instead of ponies? In the end they are still shoving ponies into Fallout. Nothing you can say can change that. From what you've said, the ponies could be cut out from the whole story and it wouldn't make a difference. That means they are just shoving ponies in. If by different abilities you mean magical abilities then that itself if out of place in Fallout. Fallout is not magical. The closest it came to being magical was that book quest in Point Lookout.

I have no desire to read MLP fan-fiction so I'm not going to read it. You're welcome to try to explain it to me, but I'm not going to read MLP fan-fiction. I'm for fan-fiction that makes sense(I don't read fan-fiction, but if someone makes a mod that adds some then I might try it. Like Magicka Sabers in Skyrim). This MLP Fallout still is just ponies in Fallout. Regardless of having a well written story or not, the fact is that MLP has nothing in common with Fallout so it is just ridiculous to combine them.
User avatar #163 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
Well if you're too close minded to even attempt to read it, then i don't think you actually care too much about reading in the first place. So i don't think you have any reason to try and bad mouth a novel somebody poured a lot of time and effort into writing.

quick come up with three new, creative, recognizable, easy to imagine, cognizant beings to mesh into a post-apocalyptic world that was corrupted from its original peaceful utopian beginnings.
Sometimes it's easier to incorporate other ideas into a story than to try and just freeball some fresh critter and different world that only you can imagine. That's why it's a fanfic and not a stand alone book. That and the trademark laws that would interfere with anything like that being actually published....
User avatar #171 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
There is also a difference between "close-minded" and "I don't like MLP fan-fiction". Just like you wouldn't be close-minded if you didn't want to do something you had no interest in doing and it perverted what you liked.
User avatar #169 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
I never once said anything bad about the story. I only state that the ponies part is completely unnecessary. I said I have no interest in reading MLP fan-fiction, but I also said you are more than welcome to try to explain it to me.

I'm not saying it's easy to come up with that crap. I'm saying shoving ponies into it is just bad. From what you've said, the ponies are all different races and have different abilities. Why not just use human races instead of ponies that have nothing to do with the Fallout universe? They are shoving MLP ponies into something they do not belong in. Even if you wrote a very interesting story about ponies in Fallout, it still is just shoving ponies in. If the story has nothing to do wit MLP, then why use MLP as the base? If person/these people can come up with a good story with good characters, that means they have good creative minds. If they have good creative minds, I'm willing to bet they could have come up with something to use instead of ponies. Using ponies is just really weird for Fallout. Fan-fiction or not, they still do not belong in Fallout. It would be one thing to mix two post apocalyptic things like Walking Dead and Fallout, but using ponies and Fallout is just atrocious.
User avatar #172 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
because it's all been done before.
that, and it's hard to give humans the ability to fly and still try and keep it reasonably realistic to the lore and universe....

it's just something that isn't boring. it's fresh and new and it works well. That's my explanation of why people should read it. If that's not enough to convince you to read it, then i doubt anything else will either.
User avatar #173 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
>realistic to the lore and universe
>fly
>ponies

If they wrote a fan-fiction where flying magical ponies makes sense then they can obviously find a way to make humans able to do that and cut out the ponies. My whole point is that the ponies seem highly necessary. I have nothing against fan-fiction(I don't read them), but at this point it is just convert a child's cartoon about ponies into a gritty post apocalyptic universe. If it has nothing to do with the show other than the ponies, then why include them? If they wrote out a whole massive story then they can come up with something else. It's just bad to try to re-write whole stories like that. It's like a shitty crossover.
User avatar #174 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
in the MLP universe, there is their logical (illogical in real world, but logical in theirs) explanation of why each different race exists. it makes sense in their world, so it works in their world.
What reason do people have for having wings? are they even people? are they some weird animal? Why do they look so much like us? if technology was already progressed far enough to give people wings, then why didn't this seed of corruption planted by new technologies already spread before we had bird people?
There's too many questions and cause and effect trees that don't correlate to the plot.

and maybe it's not just fanfics that you have anything against (how could you, you haven't read any of them), but you most obviously have something against the MLP community. I don't know what it did to you, but it's obviously got you stuck in some rut of stereotyping that just isn't any thing worth being pulled into. ruins your perception of things and people too quickly. learn to look at something objectively rather than with your pre-disposition.
User avatar #176 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
Then it has stuff from the MLP universe and is just a crossover.

What reason do people have for having wings? are they even people? are they some weird animal? Why do they look so much like us? if technology was already progressed far enough to give people wings, then why didn't this seed of corruption planted by new technologies already spread before we had bird people?

Those questions can all be answered if the writers are willing to actually try. It's not hard to come up with that stuff if you've got a good story. With what they have they are just adding MLP stuff into Fallout from the sound of it. I'm not the one writing the fan-fiction so I don't have to answer those questions. Those questions also wouldn't exist if it wasn't an MLP fan-fiction. If they didn't have any form of ponies it would be different. No matter what you say, ponies just don't belong in Fallout. Even if it is fan-fiction, you are still trying to completely change the whole subject(in this case ponies) into something that is completely different and has nothing to do with it(Fallout). There isn't really an in-between with those two. One is a colorful children's cartoon and the other is a post-apocalyptic RPG with a lot of death and violence. They are too drastically different.
User avatar #178 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
you're running out of reasons it shouldn't exist. you already used most of those.

I'm also running out of different ways to tell you, soooooo i'm done. you win whatever game it was you were playing. I just wanted to try and break somebody out of their shell and enjoy some literature.

Fag.
User avatar #186 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
You don't seem to be getting my point. My point is that it really is out of place and that's why people are upset by it. As for my repeated examples, you haven't really acknowledged them so I brought them back up. You keep trying to defend something that has no place being where it is. Trying to get me to read MLP fan-fiction is something I have no desire to do. I do not like MLP. I do not have interest in MLP. Why would I want to read MLP fan-fiction? I like Fallout, but that doesn't mean I'll read any fan-fiction out there just because it's Fallout. You're not "trying to break somebody out of their shell". You want me to read a fan-fiction about MLP. Regardless of good writing or not, it is still MLP fan-fiction and something I have no desire to read.

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