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#43 - Reviving is really sketchy in DBZ. For the most part, it bring…  [+] (11 new replies) 07/11/2016 on Oil Fetish +1
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#113 - kameken (07/11/2016) [-]
Freeza's a special case, because, not only was he almost certainly alive before Trunks blasted him, he was also dead for a long ass time, meaning his body couldn't be repaired like Shenron usually does.

That said, if Shenron can't make 18 a full human to begin with, there's no reason reviving her would do so.
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#116 - wertologist (07/12/2016) [-]
As for the 18 part, that's what I was referring to. The dragon brings you to the last living form you had. Right down to the scars and implants.
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#119 - kameken (07/12/2016) [-]
Tien died one armed, once, but he was revived with the arm intact.

I think it's less about the last form you had and more about what's considered permanent. Scars don't really go away, and 18 would likely die right away without whatever mechanical parts she has, so they're part of whoever's revived. Basically, Shenron himself probably makes the judgement on what to bring back and what to not, based on what he's able to do.
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#122 - wertologist (07/12/2016) [-]
But the scars are part of your last intact form. Same as 18's cyborg body.
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#121 - wertologist (07/12/2016) [-]
I just ignore those things and lop it in with the other inconsistent things Akira writes. I love DBZ, but Akira has a god awful memory. He forgot Launch existed when he was doing DBZ. I figure he just forgot or didn't even consider to thoroughly explain the revivals.
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#115 - wertologist (07/12/2016) [-]
I don't think time is a factor. It never really comes up as a concern. Frieza was completely obliterated. I think he was technically alive right before the blast so the wish brought him to his last moment of life. I don't think time was a factor at all since its never even brought up.
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#117 - kameken (07/12/2016) [-]
When he says he can't repair Freeza's body, he mentions his death being a long time ago, and Porunga was able to bring back Krillin after he was exploded by Freeza, so it can't just be that the only problem was how he died. A combination of both, maybe.
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#120 - wertologist (07/12/2016) [-]
I can't find a source on Shelton saying time mattered. It may have been added in the funimation dub, but may not have existed at all. The difference between Krillin blowing up and Frieza blowing up was that Krillin was intact right before dying by explosion so when revived, he was brought back intact. Frieza was also still alive right before Trunks blasted him, but he wasn't intact so Shenron could only bring back the living chunks of flesh that he was right before he died.

"...he is revived as he was just before his death, as Mecha Frieza and in pieces."

Couldn't find anything on the wiki saying time was a factor.
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#53 - fireeaters (07/11/2016) [-]
Took me a second to remember Yamcha's name. 'Yamaha' confused me for a moment. That mobile autocorrect, right?
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#54 - wertologist (07/11/2016) [-]
Yeah. I'm on my phone since my PC broke. I think you should see a phone icon next to the comment if it's a mobile one.
#55 - fireeaters (07/11/2016) [-]
Yep. That's why I mentioned autocorrect instead of just assuming it was a typo.
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#14 - She's still a cyborg. They couldn't undo that.  [+] (19 new replies) 07/10/2016 on Oil Fetish +4
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#25 - fireeaters (07/11/2016) [-]
But she died to Cell. Shouldn't the robot parts have not transferred when she was res'd?
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#28 - brokentrucker (07/11/2016) [-]
She wasn't rezd. Wasn't she just gut punched out of him?
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#49 - fireeaters (07/11/2016) [-]
You're right. I checked the wiki. Maybe it was android 17 who gets the dragonball treatment?
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#50 - brokentrucker (07/11/2016) [-]
Seems most likely.

Unless as kameken said and it's the Buu saga, but that's still not cell. So, half right?
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#38 - kameken (07/11/2016) [-]
Well, she wasn't killed then, but she does die and get brought back when Buu destroys Earth.
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#43 - wertologist (07/11/2016) [-]
Reviving is really sketchy in DBZ. For the most part, it brings you back to the way you were right before you died. Yamaha and Tien both have their scars after revival and the saiyans don't get their tails back. Though Frieza was revived in pieces which doesn't really make sense unless he was still alive for the few seconds before Trunks blasted him while in pieces.
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#113 - kameken (07/11/2016) [-]
Freeza's a special case, because, not only was he almost certainly alive before Trunks blasted him, he was also dead for a long ass time, meaning his body couldn't be repaired like Shenron usually does.

That said, if Shenron can't make 18 a full human to begin with, there's no reason reviving her would do so.
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#116 - wertologist (07/12/2016) [-]
As for the 18 part, that's what I was referring to. The dragon brings you to the last living form you had. Right down to the scars and implants.
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#119 - kameken (07/12/2016) [-]
Tien died one armed, once, but he was revived with the arm intact.

I think it's less about the last form you had and more about what's considered permanent. Scars don't really go away, and 18 would likely die right away without whatever mechanical parts she has, so they're part of whoever's revived. Basically, Shenron himself probably makes the judgement on what to bring back and what to not, based on what he's able to do.
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#122 - wertologist (07/12/2016) [-]
But the scars are part of your last intact form. Same as 18's cyborg body.
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#121 - wertologist (07/12/2016) [-]
I just ignore those things and lop it in with the other inconsistent things Akira writes. I love DBZ, but Akira has a god awful memory. He forgot Launch existed when he was doing DBZ. I figure he just forgot or didn't even consider to thoroughly explain the revivals.
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#115 - wertologist (07/12/2016) [-]
I don't think time is a factor. It never really comes up as a concern. Frieza was completely obliterated. I think he was technically alive right before the blast so the wish brought him to his last moment of life. I don't think time was a factor at all since its never even brought up.
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#117 - kameken (07/12/2016) [-]
When he says he can't repair Freeza's body, he mentions his death being a long time ago, and Porunga was able to bring back Krillin after he was exploded by Freeza, so it can't just be that the only problem was how he died. A combination of both, maybe.
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#120 - wertologist (07/12/2016) [-]
I can't find a source on Shelton saying time mattered. It may have been added in the funimation dub, but may not have existed at all. The difference between Krillin blowing up and Frieza blowing up was that Krillin was intact right before dying by explosion so when revived, he was brought back intact. Frieza was also still alive right before Trunks blasted him, but he wasn't intact so Shenron could only bring back the living chunks of flesh that he was right before he died.

"...he is revived as he was just before his death, as Mecha Frieza and in pieces."

Couldn't find anything on the wiki saying time was a factor.
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#53 - fireeaters (07/11/2016) [-]
Took me a second to remember Yamcha's name. 'Yamaha' confused me for a moment. That mobile autocorrect, right?
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#54 - wertologist (07/11/2016) [-]
Yeah. I'm on my phone since my PC broke. I think you should see a phone icon next to the comment if it's a mobile one.
#55 - fireeaters (07/11/2016) [-]
Yep. That's why I mentioned autocorrect instead of just assuming it was a typo.
#34 - rahzma (07/11/2016) [-]
Yeah, Gohan hit him so hard he threw up 18. Dude needs to learn to chew his food.
#19 - anon (07/11/2016) [-]
**anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
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they shouldn't undo that
#20 - It's alright, guys. He just fainted. 07/10/2016 on hoodmon 0
#993 - Happy Birthday. 07/10/2016 on CLOSED STOP FUCKING ROLLING 0
#92 - I did. I swiped to the green circle which was on the Pokemon.t…  [+] (1 new reply) 07/09/2016 on Pokemon For Health 0
#96 - spookydooky (07/09/2016) [-]
I'm having a problem where my AR completely doesn't work. Like, I might as well just be taking random pics of what ever the fuck near. No rings or Pokemoi, but it is a free game so fuck it.
#83 - Did you really think every black person in America supports blm?  [+] (1 new reply) 07/09/2016 on Cittact Biveshil Ysaloons 0
#85 - kmichel (07/09/2016) [-]
Personally...I'd guess that most do,but definitely not all. I made that statement because I pay close attention to how the media shapes beliefs, and we need more mainstream exposure to people like this guy.
#52 - Got it last night and it seems a little buggy. The AR was not …  [+] (4 new replies) 07/09/2016 on Pokemon For Health 0
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#88 - Haentar (07/09/2016) [-]
I like the lack of knowledge about the game, though. It's fun to have to experiment to learn more about how it works.
I just stumbled across the ability to track a certain kind of pokemon nearby last night, for example.
#57 - gazmus (07/09/2016) [-]
Where to aim? Aim for the pokemon dude....aint rocket science.
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#92 - wertologist (07/09/2016) [-]
I did. I swiped to the green circle which was on the Pokemon.they just dropped to the ground. The only way I caught any were when the poke balls landed far away from it and it seems to be completely random on where you need to aim despite the green circle.
#96 - spookydooky (07/09/2016) [-]
I'm having a problem where my AR completely doesn't work. Like, I might as well just be taking random pics of what ever the fuck near. No rings or Pokemoi, but it is a free game so fuck it.
#16 - Do you not see how that can be worse? 07/08/2016 on Election Results +5
#4 - Thatisthejoke.png 07/08/2016 on hi. +49