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#152 - Whether or not the story is good/well thought out isn't the po…  [+] (13 new replies) 08/18/2015 on Disturbing +1
User avatar #153 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
But that IS the point.
That it's not just cringey ponies. It's just literature that implements the more savvy aspects of the MLP universe. It adds a cool and peculiar twist to the story outside of just another grim/dark fanfic of fallout.
I feel like the group of people who are making the game are making it more as a tip of whatever hat they wear to the original story written, not just because, "HurrDurr lets shove ponies in a game."

It can't be judged just by what universe it's in if it's still a good story to read. I don't think it deserves as much flak as it's getting from the "classier" communities.
User avatar #154 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
That isn't the point. It doesn't matter if it is well written. It is still trying to combine two entirely different things. If it has nothing to do with MLP, then why not just cut out the ponies? It is a perversion of both series. It'd be like trying to shove ponies into Star Wars or Walking Dead.

"I feel like the group of people who are making the game are making it more as a tip of whatever hat they wear to the original story written, not just because, "HurrDurr lets shove ponies in a game.""
That sounds exactly like it's just shoving ponies in. From what it seems, it is no different than FO3 other than the fact it has ponies instead of people.

In order for it to not just be some cheesy fan-fiction, it would have to have nothing in common with MLP. If it has nothing to do with MLP, then why put them in? It sounds like they are trying to shove ponies in it to me. It's be like re-writing Star Wars, but with Minions.
User avatar #155 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
It's hard to just explain to you without having to go into the story itself... I'd suggest reading the first chapter that I posted at the very beginning of all of this (which i sort of did to try and avoid trying to explain it all myself) but it sounds like you're incredibly against way it is the idea....

Ig the way it's not just a story about ponies, but can't really be changed from it's current form is because the poines have different races. Like, drastically and recognizably different. Because each of these races are different, they each can accomplish certain things that the other ones can't.
That difference adds an extra dimension to the story, much like races do in other fantasy settings (I.E. Humans, elves, and dwarves). And one of the reasons i personally think the story is good is because of the fact that it utilizes these different races very well, and also does it in a way that is fresh and new and inventive. Something that I really like to see since I've read a lot of things from a lot of different people and have noticed a lot of repeating patterns.
User avatar #159 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
If each race has different abilities, then why not just make new races instead of ponies? In the end they are still shoving ponies into Fallout. Nothing you can say can change that. From what you've said, the ponies could be cut out from the whole story and it wouldn't make a difference. That means they are just shoving ponies in. If by different abilities you mean magical abilities then that itself if out of place in Fallout. Fallout is not magical. The closest it came to being magical was that book quest in Point Lookout.

I have no desire to read MLP fan-fiction so I'm not going to read it. You're welcome to try to explain it to me, but I'm not going to read MLP fan-fiction. I'm for fan-fiction that makes sense(I don't read fan-fiction, but if someone makes a mod that adds some then I might try it. Like Magicka Sabers in Skyrim). This MLP Fallout still is just ponies in Fallout. Regardless of having a well written story or not, the fact is that MLP has nothing in common with Fallout so it is just ridiculous to combine them.
User avatar #163 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
Well if you're too close minded to even attempt to read it, then i don't think you actually care too much about reading in the first place. So i don't think you have any reason to try and bad mouth a novel somebody poured a lot of time and effort into writing.

quick come up with three new, creative, recognizable, easy to imagine, cognizant beings to mesh into a post-apocalyptic world that was corrupted from its original peaceful utopian beginnings.
Sometimes it's easier to incorporate other ideas into a story than to try and just freeball some fresh critter and different world that only you can imagine. That's why it's a fanfic and not a stand alone book. That and the trademark laws that would interfere with anything like that being actually published....
User avatar #171 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
There is also a difference between "close-minded" and "I don't like MLP fan-fiction". Just like you wouldn't be close-minded if you didn't want to do something you had no interest in doing and it perverted what you liked.
User avatar #169 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
I never once said anything bad about the story. I only state that the ponies part is completely unnecessary. I said I have no interest in reading MLP fan-fiction, but I also said you are more than welcome to try to explain it to me.

I'm not saying it's easy to come up with that crap. I'm saying shoving ponies into it is just bad. From what you've said, the ponies are all different races and have different abilities. Why not just use human races instead of ponies that have nothing to do with the Fallout universe? They are shoving MLP ponies into something they do not belong in. Even if you wrote a very interesting story about ponies in Fallout, it still is just shoving ponies in. If the story has nothing to do wit MLP, then why use MLP as the base? If person/these people can come up with a good story with good characters, that means they have good creative minds. If they have good creative minds, I'm willing to bet they could have come up with something to use instead of ponies. Using ponies is just really weird for Fallout. Fan-fiction or not, they still do not belong in Fallout. It would be one thing to mix two post apocalyptic things like Walking Dead and Fallout, but using ponies and Fallout is just atrocious.
User avatar #172 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
because it's all been done before.
that, and it's hard to give humans the ability to fly and still try and keep it reasonably realistic to the lore and universe....

it's just something that isn't boring. it's fresh and new and it works well. That's my explanation of why people should read it. If that's not enough to convince you to read it, then i doubt anything else will either.
User avatar #173 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
>realistic to the lore and universe
>fly
>ponies

If they wrote a fan-fiction where flying magical ponies makes sense then they can obviously find a way to make humans able to do that and cut out the ponies. My whole point is that the ponies seem highly necessary. I have nothing against fan-fiction(I don't read them), but at this point it is just convert a child's cartoon about ponies into a gritty post apocalyptic universe. If it has nothing to do with the show other than the ponies, then why include them? If they wrote out a whole massive story then they can come up with something else. It's just bad to try to re-write whole stories like that. It's like a shitty crossover.
User avatar #174 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
in the MLP universe, there is their logical (illogical in real world, but logical in theirs) explanation of why each different race exists. it makes sense in their world, so it works in their world.
What reason do people have for having wings? are they even people? are they some weird animal? Why do they look so much like us? if technology was already progressed far enough to give people wings, then why didn't this seed of corruption planted by new technologies already spread before we had bird people?
There's too many questions and cause and effect trees that don't correlate to the plot.

and maybe it's not just fanfics that you have anything against (how could you, you haven't read any of them), but you most obviously have something against the MLP community. I don't know what it did to you, but it's obviously got you stuck in some rut of stereotyping that just isn't any thing worth being pulled into. ruins your perception of things and people too quickly. learn to look at something objectively rather than with your pre-disposition.
User avatar #176 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
Then it has stuff from the MLP universe and is just a crossover.

What reason do people have for having wings? are they even people? are they some weird animal? Why do they look so much like us? if technology was already progressed far enough to give people wings, then why didn't this seed of corruption planted by new technologies already spread before we had bird people?

Those questions can all be answered if the writers are willing to actually try. It's not hard to come up with that stuff if you've got a good story. With what they have they are just adding MLP stuff into Fallout from the sound of it. I'm not the one writing the fan-fiction so I don't have to answer those questions. Those questions also wouldn't exist if it wasn't an MLP fan-fiction. If they didn't have any form of ponies it would be different. No matter what you say, ponies just don't belong in Fallout. Even if it is fan-fiction, you are still trying to completely change the whole subject(in this case ponies) into something that is completely different and has nothing to do with it(Fallout). There isn't really an in-between with those two. One is a colorful children's cartoon and the other is a post-apocalyptic RPG with a lot of death and violence. They are too drastically different.
User avatar #178 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
you're running out of reasons it shouldn't exist. you already used most of those.

I'm also running out of different ways to tell you, soooooo i'm done. you win whatever game it was you were playing. I just wanted to try and break somebody out of their shell and enjoy some literature.

Fag.
User avatar #186 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
You don't seem to be getting my point. My point is that it really is out of place and that's why people are upset by it. As for my repeated examples, you haven't really acknowledged them so I brought them back up. You keep trying to defend something that has no place being where it is. Trying to get me to read MLP fan-fiction is something I have no desire to do. I do not like MLP. I do not have interest in MLP. Why would I want to read MLP fan-fiction? I like Fallout, but that doesn't mean I'll read any fan-fiction out there just because it's Fallout. You're not "trying to break somebody out of their shell". You want me to read a fan-fiction about MLP. Regardless of good writing or not, it is still MLP fan-fiction and something I have no desire to read.
#150 - I think the main reason people are bashing it is because MLP a…  [+] (15 new replies) 08/18/2015 on Disturbing +3
User avatar #151 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
I basically thought the same thing. In fact, a friend of mine bombed my email with evvery single chapter of the dang story as a joke. I laughed at it.

it was so totally different that it shouldn't have meshed together at all. But it did.

it took what was supposed to be a happy go lucky harmonious colorful world and through very smooth story telling, showed how corruption can spread through a utopia. Reading about how everything deteriorated into a nuclear apocalypse is actually eerily mirrored by stuff that could happen in the real world.

TL;DR If the characters were anything other than blindly hated ponies, even more people would love the shit out of the story.
User avatar #152 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
Whether or not the story is good/well thought out isn't the point. The point is the two things do not have anything in common. No matter how you put it, it is just some fan-fiction. If what you say is true, then it has almost nothing to do with MLP except the characters which at that point, you may as well just get rid of them. They took MLP and twisted it into something entirely different. That would be like writing a fan-fiction about Spongebob in the Fallout style. Regardless of how well written it is, it is still fan-fiction and is combining two completely different things.
User avatar #153 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
But that IS the point.
That it's not just cringey ponies. It's just literature that implements the more savvy aspects of the MLP universe. It adds a cool and peculiar twist to the story outside of just another grim/dark fanfic of fallout.
I feel like the group of people who are making the game are making it more as a tip of whatever hat they wear to the original story written, not just because, "HurrDurr lets shove ponies in a game."

It can't be judged just by what universe it's in if it's still a good story to read. I don't think it deserves as much flak as it's getting from the "classier" communities.
User avatar #154 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
That isn't the point. It doesn't matter if it is well written. It is still trying to combine two entirely different things. If it has nothing to do with MLP, then why not just cut out the ponies? It is a perversion of both series. It'd be like trying to shove ponies into Star Wars or Walking Dead.

"I feel like the group of people who are making the game are making it more as a tip of whatever hat they wear to the original story written, not just because, "HurrDurr lets shove ponies in a game.""
That sounds exactly like it's just shoving ponies in. From what it seems, it is no different than FO3 other than the fact it has ponies instead of people.

In order for it to not just be some cheesy fan-fiction, it would have to have nothing in common with MLP. If it has nothing to do with MLP, then why put them in? It sounds like they are trying to shove ponies in it to me. It's be like re-writing Star Wars, but with Minions.
User avatar #155 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
It's hard to just explain to you without having to go into the story itself... I'd suggest reading the first chapter that I posted at the very beginning of all of this (which i sort of did to try and avoid trying to explain it all myself) but it sounds like you're incredibly against way it is the idea....

Ig the way it's not just a story about ponies, but can't really be changed from it's current form is because the poines have different races. Like, drastically and recognizably different. Because each of these races are different, they each can accomplish certain things that the other ones can't.
That difference adds an extra dimension to the story, much like races do in other fantasy settings (I.E. Humans, elves, and dwarves). And one of the reasons i personally think the story is good is because of the fact that it utilizes these different races very well, and also does it in a way that is fresh and new and inventive. Something that I really like to see since I've read a lot of things from a lot of different people and have noticed a lot of repeating patterns.
User avatar #159 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
If each race has different abilities, then why not just make new races instead of ponies? In the end they are still shoving ponies into Fallout. Nothing you can say can change that. From what you've said, the ponies could be cut out from the whole story and it wouldn't make a difference. That means they are just shoving ponies in. If by different abilities you mean magical abilities then that itself if out of place in Fallout. Fallout is not magical. The closest it came to being magical was that book quest in Point Lookout.

I have no desire to read MLP fan-fiction so I'm not going to read it. You're welcome to try to explain it to me, but I'm not going to read MLP fan-fiction. I'm for fan-fiction that makes sense(I don't read fan-fiction, but if someone makes a mod that adds some then I might try it. Like Magicka Sabers in Skyrim). This MLP Fallout still is just ponies in Fallout. Regardless of having a well written story or not, the fact is that MLP has nothing in common with Fallout so it is just ridiculous to combine them.
User avatar #163 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
Well if you're too close minded to even attempt to read it, then i don't think you actually care too much about reading in the first place. So i don't think you have any reason to try and bad mouth a novel somebody poured a lot of time and effort into writing.

quick come up with three new, creative, recognizable, easy to imagine, cognizant beings to mesh into a post-apocalyptic world that was corrupted from its original peaceful utopian beginnings.
Sometimes it's easier to incorporate other ideas into a story than to try and just freeball some fresh critter and different world that only you can imagine. That's why it's a fanfic and not a stand alone book. That and the trademark laws that would interfere with anything like that being actually published....
User avatar #171 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
There is also a difference between "close-minded" and "I don't like MLP fan-fiction". Just like you wouldn't be close-minded if you didn't want to do something you had no interest in doing and it perverted what you liked.
User avatar #169 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
I never once said anything bad about the story. I only state that the ponies part is completely unnecessary. I said I have no interest in reading MLP fan-fiction, but I also said you are more than welcome to try to explain it to me.

I'm not saying it's easy to come up with that crap. I'm saying shoving ponies into it is just bad. From what you've said, the ponies are all different races and have different abilities. Why not just use human races instead of ponies that have nothing to do with the Fallout universe? They are shoving MLP ponies into something they do not belong in. Even if you wrote a very interesting story about ponies in Fallout, it still is just shoving ponies in. If the story has nothing to do wit MLP, then why use MLP as the base? If person/these people can come up with a good story with good characters, that means they have good creative minds. If they have good creative minds, I'm willing to bet they could have come up with something to use instead of ponies. Using ponies is just really weird for Fallout. Fan-fiction or not, they still do not belong in Fallout. It would be one thing to mix two post apocalyptic things like Walking Dead and Fallout, but using ponies and Fallout is just atrocious.
User avatar #172 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
because it's all been done before.
that, and it's hard to give humans the ability to fly and still try and keep it reasonably realistic to the lore and universe....

it's just something that isn't boring. it's fresh and new and it works well. That's my explanation of why people should read it. If that's not enough to convince you to read it, then i doubt anything else will either.
User avatar #173 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
>realistic to the lore and universe
>fly
>ponies

If they wrote a fan-fiction where flying magical ponies makes sense then they can obviously find a way to make humans able to do that and cut out the ponies. My whole point is that the ponies seem highly necessary. I have nothing against fan-fiction(I don't read them), but at this point it is just convert a child's cartoon about ponies into a gritty post apocalyptic universe. If it has nothing to do with the show other than the ponies, then why include them? If they wrote out a whole massive story then they can come up with something else. It's just bad to try to re-write whole stories like that. It's like a shitty crossover.
User avatar #174 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
in the MLP universe, there is their logical (illogical in real world, but logical in theirs) explanation of why each different race exists. it makes sense in their world, so it works in their world.
What reason do people have for having wings? are they even people? are they some weird animal? Why do they look so much like us? if technology was already progressed far enough to give people wings, then why didn't this seed of corruption planted by new technologies already spread before we had bird people?
There's too many questions and cause and effect trees that don't correlate to the plot.

and maybe it's not just fanfics that you have anything against (how could you, you haven't read any of them), but you most obviously have something against the MLP community. I don't know what it did to you, but it's obviously got you stuck in some rut of stereotyping that just isn't any thing worth being pulled into. ruins your perception of things and people too quickly. learn to look at something objectively rather than with your pre-disposition.
User avatar #176 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
Then it has stuff from the MLP universe and is just a crossover.

What reason do people have for having wings? are they even people? are they some weird animal? Why do they look so much like us? if technology was already progressed far enough to give people wings, then why didn't this seed of corruption planted by new technologies already spread before we had bird people?

Those questions can all be answered if the writers are willing to actually try. It's not hard to come up with that stuff if you've got a good story. With what they have they are just adding MLP stuff into Fallout from the sound of it. I'm not the one writing the fan-fiction so I don't have to answer those questions. Those questions also wouldn't exist if it wasn't an MLP fan-fiction. If they didn't have any form of ponies it would be different. No matter what you say, ponies just don't belong in Fallout. Even if it is fan-fiction, you are still trying to completely change the whole subject(in this case ponies) into something that is completely different and has nothing to do with it(Fallout). There isn't really an in-between with those two. One is a colorful children's cartoon and the other is a post-apocalyptic RPG with a lot of death and violence. They are too drastically different.
User avatar #178 - penguinicus (08/18/2015) [-]
you're running out of reasons it shouldn't exist. you already used most of those.

I'm also running out of different ways to tell you, soooooo i'm done. you win whatever game it was you were playing. I just wanted to try and break somebody out of their shell and enjoy some literature.

Fag.
User avatar #186 - wertologist (08/18/2015) [-]
You don't seem to be getting my point. My point is that it really is out of place and that's why people are upset by it. As for my repeated examples, you haven't really acknowledged them so I brought them back up. You keep trying to defend something that has no place being where it is. Trying to get me to read MLP fan-fiction is something I have no desire to do. I do not like MLP. I do not have interest in MLP. Why would I want to read MLP fan-fiction? I like Fallout, but that doesn't mean I'll read any fan-fiction out there just because it's Fallout. You're not "trying to break somebody out of their shell". You want me to read a fan-fiction about MLP. Regardless of good writing or not, it is still MLP fan-fiction and something I have no desire to read.
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User avatar #11 - reinbowxdash (08/17/2015) [-]
But you only get an extra hour.
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User avatar #19 - manofparody (08/17/2015) [-]
Ah yes, the Flashpoint Paradox. Amazing movie.
#57 - anon (08/17/2015) [-]
Comic*

User avatar #75 - slycoop (08/17/2015) [-]
The movie adaptation was quite a bit better than the comic event though. Big events in comics usually are disappointing, and Flashpoint was no exception.
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User avatar #1289629 - yibdiy (08/17/2015) [-]
Well you'd better start googling then, you have a lot of things on your list.
#1289604 - anon (08/17/2015) [-]
#130 - Has he done anything to rectify his supposed crime other than …  [+] (1 new reply) 08/16/2015 on (untitled) +1
#131 - sooshishef (08/16/2015) [-]
I'm gonna just assume the latter.
#164 - Then I meant regular plate. I think most people knew what I meant. 08/16/2015 on Ninjas 0
#64 - Also, if he feels so guilty what has he done about it? Anyone …  [+] (6 new replies) 08/16/2015 on (untitled) 0
#70 - sooshishef (08/16/2015) [-]
Looked him up. He's a professor atShimmer College in Chicago and he's a theologist. And half the world thinks he's stupid.
User avatar #130 - wertologist (08/16/2015) [-]
Has he done anything to rectify his supposed crime other than whining or is he just talking out of his ass?
#131 - sooshishef (08/16/2015) [-]
I'm gonna just assume the latter.
#91 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (08/16/2015) [-]
How can an idiot like that become a professor at unversity?
#118 - sooshishef (08/16/2015) [-]
No clue.
User avatar #67 - newprinny (08/16/2015) [-]
He said in another tweet that all white people should commit mass suicide, and when people called him out on it, he resorted to the "j-j-j-just j-j-joking guise haha," defense, dood.
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#29 - anon (08/16/2015) [-]
My girlfriend is quite sick of compliments now, daily she'd have random guys come up to her, ask her on dates and shit. As I am quite beta as shit, I'm surprised I'm even getting anywhere with her.
#107 - oholandesvoador (08/16/2015) [-]
Trust me anon, it will not last long if you're too beta...
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User avatar #163 - baronvonhuckle (08/16/2015) [-]
The word mail refers to chainmail, and no other type of armour.

Obviously plate armour, leather armour and various others exist, but the word "mail" or "maille" refers only to armour made from linked metal rings or "chains".
User avatar #164 - wertologist (08/16/2015) [-]
Then I meant regular plate. I think most people knew what I meant.
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User avatar #211 - jjvoodoo (08/16/2015) [-]
it preforms well against platemail but is poor against chainmail
User avatar #126 - baronvonhuckle (08/16/2015) [-]
There is no such thing as platemail.

Nor leathermail

Nor scalemail.
User avatar #163 - baronvonhuckle (08/16/2015) [-]
The word mail refers to chainmail, and no other type of armour.

Obviously plate armour, leather armour and various others exist, but the word "mail" or "maille" refers only to armour made from linked metal rings or "chains".
User avatar #164 - wertologist (08/16/2015) [-]
Then I meant regular plate. I think most people knew what I meant.
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#63 - skebaba (08/16/2015) [-]
Also, the black people benefited from slavery too by that logic, since they were born to a first world country and not to some poor third world country, starving to death.
#103 - anon (08/16/2015) [-]
There are zero black countries where blacks are better off than former slave countries.
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#25 - Like Batman.  [+] (1 new reply) 08/16/2015 on (untitled) +1
User avatar #27 - captainfuckitall (08/16/2015) [-]
Yes, like Batman.
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User avatar #110 - aurareads (08/16/2015) [-]
My mom traced her side the American Revolution and even beyond and nary a slave owner ot be found. On my dad's side we only got here from Germany in the 1890's. My white guilt is zero. It would also be at zero if some great great whatever had owned slaves, because I am not responsible for the actions of people who were dead at least 100 years before I was born.
#100 - anon (08/16/2015) [-]
Mind didn't either.
#35 - newprinny (08/16/2015) [-]
You'd be surprised how stupid people are, dood.
#129 - itssakamoto (08/16/2015) [-]
My country was built upon whites enslaved by whites. I think SJWs just self-destructed.
#101 - anon (08/16/2015) [-]
Tell that to my ancestors who died fighting for the North, and their children who were left without a father to raise them.
User avatar #64 - wertologist (08/16/2015) [-]
Also, if he feels so guilty what has he done about it? Anyone happen to know anything about the guy?
#70 - sooshishef (08/16/2015) [-]
Looked him up. He's a professor atShimmer College in Chicago and he's a theologist. And half the world thinks he's stupid.
User avatar #130 - wertologist (08/16/2015) [-]
Has he done anything to rectify his supposed crime other than whining or is he just talking out of his ass?
#131 - sooshishef (08/16/2015) [-]
I'm gonna just assume the latter.
#91 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (08/16/2015) [-]
How can an idiot like that become a professor at unversity?
#118 - sooshishef (08/16/2015) [-]
No clue.
User avatar #67 - newprinny (08/16/2015) [-]
He said in another tweet that all white people should commit mass suicide, and when people called him out on it, he resorted to the "j-j-j-just j-j-joking guise haha," defense, dood.
User avatar #38 - wertologist (08/16/2015) [-]
I'm aware people can be stupid. I'm also aware there are more people like him out there. It just makes me sick. I will probably snap if one of them tries to call me out in person. They have no evidence to support anything.
#63 - skebaba (08/16/2015) [-]
Also, the black people benefited from slavery too by that logic, since they were born to a first world country and not to some poor third world country, starving to death.
#103 - anon (08/16/2015) [-]
There are zero black countries where blacks are better off than former slave countries.
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User avatar #73 - thelastamerican (08/15/2015) [-]
As a person who's been around cops all my life, yeah, cops are taught to shoot center of mass, and do as much damage as their gun will allow them to do. The reasoning behind this tactic is that, you've exhausted all the other options by the time you draw your gun. Most shootings take place inside of five feet, meaning that even if you do shoot someone in the leg they're still going to get to you, AND you've just given them a huge shot of adrenaline, OR sent them into shock, meaning that they can't feel pain like you would normally feel pain. A person can loose a leg inside of 5 feet and still beat you to death with a 2x4 before they bleed to death.

So yeah, cops shoot for the kill, because they're trained to, and because it statistically keeps the cops safer. Usually an ambulance is on site within minutes of an officer making deadly contact, because the cop can't really tell weather or not they're injured. Between the adrenaline rush of being in danger, and the shock of having just killed someone medics need to check them out.

Now, put yourself in a cop's shoes. Mace is a double edged sward. You mace someone, you also mace yourself, and everyone within 10 feet. Your tazer will probably work, but you only get one shot with your tazer. A pistol will probably take down the person you're shooting at, AND you get 13 tries to make it count. The piddly 9mm round that most cops carry won't take a chunk out of your leg the way a .45 will. You can actually be shot several times in the extremities before you can't go any more.

Now be the cop. You're being charged, let's say from 10 feet away, and the dude has a knife, or he's reaching for his waist line. Or he's just flailing his fists. There are civilians around. You can try for the taze, OR you can try for the hand gun. If you fail, everyone in the immediate vicinity is in danger, and you are in danger NOW. What do you do?
User avatar #71 - frichein (08/15/2015) [-]
www.pfoa.co.uk/110/shooting-to-wound

www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/19/police-deadly-force_n_5693020.html

Just two, they may be biased, just a quick google look.

But BLUF is, there is no guarantee the threat will be eliminated. Remember Michael Brown? Wasn't he shot like 8 times before he went down? What if he was charging a citizen instead of the cop? What if the officer missed a few times?
(If thats the wrong guy, then idk which dude.)
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User avatar #35 - frichein (08/15/2015) [-]
Hey, just food for thought. Police are always trained to shoot to kill with their firearms. It is very unheard of for police to shoot to wound.
User avatar #104 - policexplain (08/15/2015) [-]
You're wrong there. Police are taught to shoot to stop the threat. That might mean that the threat only stops when they're dead, or maybe it means they stop after the first bullet and they survive. 86% of people in the US who are shot with a handgun survive.
User avatar #107 - frichein (08/15/2015) [-]
Please read my comment below... and Thelastamerican's But to reiterate on that here:

You don't know if the 300 lbs. gorilla that is charging at the helpless child with an ax, will be stopped by two shots to the shoulder and one to the leg. These situations call for stopping the threat, not hoping that you will be able to aim to stun. But please read the comments below here.
User avatar #109 - policexplain (08/15/2015) [-]
I read them. I still think there's an important distinction between shooting to kill and shooting to stop. (Also, I never said anything about shooting to stun).
We are trained to shoot center of mass. Why? Because it is the largest target, thus the easiest to hit, and it's filled with structures, blood vessels and nerves that maximize our chances of getting a structural, hemorrhagic or psychological stop.
If we were trained to shoot to kill, we would practice mostly head shots, and we would continue to shoot once the person fell down, until we were sure he was dead. We don't do those things because our goal isn't to kill, it is to stop. That might sound like a strange distinction, but it's an important one. Cops aren't executioners, but we can use lethal force when necessary to defend ourselves or others or to make an arrest when no other means are available.
User avatar #114 - frichein (08/15/2015) [-]
Not sure on a response here. I suppose the agreement is that firing towards center mass is what to do. I was referencing that in the terminology of "shoot to kill" to show a clear delineation between firing center mass, and firing at an extremity, to stop, stun, give pause to, etc. in my comment to Wertologist.
User avatar #118 - policexplain (08/15/2015) [-]
Sorry for the confusion. I was replying to your comment "police are always trained to shoot to kill." No, we're trained to shoot to stop, as I mentioned. Once the threat is stopped, even if the person is still alive, we don't keep shooting.

"It's very unheard of for police to shoot to wound." This is completely true. We're not trained to merely wound, but to stop the threat. It might be that the suspect stops once he becomes wounded, at which point we stop shooting. Or it might be that the suspect only stops when he is killed (like Mike Brown).
User avatar #120 - frichein (08/15/2015) [-]
Cheers for an intellectual discussion.
User avatar #122 - policexplain (08/15/2015) [-]
For sure, bro!
I know there's a lot of confusion over "kill" vs "stop" because the cases you hear about are the ones where the person didn't stop until they were dead. Also, there's a lot of bullshit out there about "how come the cops didn't shoot the knife out of his hand?" Or "why couldn't the cops just shoot him in the knee?" Etc. It's clear that you understand that stuff, all I was trying to point out is that there's an important legal distinction between the intent to kill and the intent to stop.

Good talk!
User avatar #52 - wertologist (08/15/2015) [-]
Are you sure? I've never heard that one before. Even so, I can't imagine a trained officer couldn't shoot someone in the leg. It's not like they HAVE to kill(although some are better off dead because when released they'll just do it again).
User avatar #73 - thelastamerican (08/15/2015) [-]
As a person who's been around cops all my life, yeah, cops are taught to shoot center of mass, and do as much damage as their gun will allow them to do. The reasoning behind this tactic is that, you've exhausted all the other options by the time you draw your gun. Most shootings take place inside of five feet, meaning that even if you do shoot someone in the leg they're still going to get to you, AND you've just given them a huge shot of adrenaline, OR sent them into shock, meaning that they can't feel pain like you would normally feel pain. A person can loose a leg inside of 5 feet and still beat you to death with a 2x4 before they bleed to death.

So yeah, cops shoot for the kill, because they're trained to, and because it statistically keeps the cops safer. Usually an ambulance is on site within minutes of an officer making deadly contact, because the cop can't really tell weather or not they're injured. Between the adrenaline rush of being in danger, and the shock of having just killed someone medics need to check them out.

Now, put yourself in a cop's shoes. Mace is a double edged sward. You mace someone, you also mace yourself, and everyone within 10 feet. Your tazer will probably work, but you only get one shot with your tazer. A pistol will probably take down the person you're shooting at, AND you get 13 tries to make it count. The piddly 9mm round that most cops carry won't take a chunk out of your leg the way a .45 will. You can actually be shot several times in the extremities before you can't go any more.

Now be the cop. You're being charged, let's say from 10 feet away, and the dude has a knife, or he's reaching for his waist line. Or he's just flailing his fists. There are civilians around. You can try for the taze, OR you can try for the hand gun. If you fail, everyone in the immediate vicinity is in danger, and you are in danger NOW. What do you do?
User avatar #71 - frichein (08/15/2015) [-]
www.pfoa.co.uk/110/shooting-to-wound

www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/19/police-deadly-force_n_5693020.html

Just two, they may be biased, just a quick google look.

But BLUF is, there is no guarantee the threat will be eliminated. Remember Michael Brown? Wasn't he shot like 8 times before he went down? What if he was charging a citizen instead of the cop? What if the officer missed a few times?
(If thats the wrong guy, then idk which dude.)
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User avatar #11 - nikolaier (08/15/2015) [-]
As I said, its nonsense, but I had fun thinking up that nonsense.

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User avatar #18 - wholesomeburn (09/15/2014) [-]
GREETINGS MORTAL... I REQUIRE YOUR AID... Some random guy said you knew a bunch of good mods for fallout NV, mind sharing?
User avatar #12 - sirbrentcoe (08/26/2014) [-]
thanks for the add mate, can't wait to see the next castle post!
User avatar #13 to #12 - wertologist ONLINE (08/26/2014) [-]
No problem. I loved your McDisiasters as well. May be a while til the next one though. I have to be in the mood to play Sims. It takes roughly 30 minutes just to get in the game to kill people.
User avatar #15 to #13 - sirbrentcoe (08/26/2014) [-]
oh, and thanks for liking my content!
User avatar #14 to #13 - sirbrentcoe (08/26/2014) [-]
i know man, i got the sims 2 free on origin, all dlc and everything, still not interesting enough for me. i play minecraft instead, haha
User avatar #16 to #14 - wertologist ONLINE (08/26/2014) [-]
I play Minecraft and Battlefront 2 (mods galore)mostly. I got a good server to play on for minecraft. If you'd like, I can PM you the IP.
User avatar #17 to #16 - sirbrentcoe (08/26/2014) [-]
sure, also a list of mods and forge version. I tried to play on Phanact's server, but i would rather eat a bullet.
User avatar #11 - thewitchking (07/10/2014) [-]
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dumbass
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dumbass
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Why are you such a dumbass?
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