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#305 - Ha you must be in a timezone close to me. I got work at 9am an… 10 hours ago on What Would They Have To Gain? 0
#120 - He sounds really stupid, but it is actually a somewhat okay qu…  [+] (3 new replies) 10 hours ago on Joe Barton, Texas... 0
User avatar #126 - Toshiro (10 hours ago) [-]
It's a very good question, granted it could have been better worded, but the question still stands.
User avatar #158 - isolovegames (8 hours ago) [-]
**isolovegames rolls 643** Honestly america's govn't is with everything as long it doesn't deduct there pay in ANY way. Think about it why wouldn't the 'A-gov' want cleaner ways to create energy? Because they would lose money on oil using energy.

*side note* I dont have time to stick around I gotta go to a party so that is why it poorly worded.
User avatar #177 - Toshiro (7 hours ago) [-]
To be fair, America isn't the only Government guilty of that.
#302 - Sorry it feels like dodging. It's just not an answerable quest…  [+] (2 new replies) 10 hours ago on What Would They Have To Gain? 0
User avatar #303 - testaburger (10 hours ago) [-]
I get it, and yet I don't get it. You get what I'm saying?
I don't get it, but I'll accept your answer.

And that lack of definitive evidence is why people such as myself are atheists.


Can we continue this some other time? It's late and I got math from 8am tomorrow, so I need sleep.
Got other stuff I wanna talk about.
#305 - trickytrickster (10 hours ago) [-]
Ha you must be in a timezone close to me. I got work at 9am anyway. I will friend you or something.

I understand why someone who wants evidence would be atheist, but to me there is more to it than just evidence.
#73 - It was the Koch brothers.  [+] (1 new reply) 10 hours ago on Autism +1
User avatar #76 - azumeow (10 hours ago) [-]
And the CIA! They JFK'd Lincoln so that AIDS!
#69 - I mean some conspiracies are right. Most aren't.  [+] (3 new replies) 10 hours ago on Autism +2
User avatar #70 - azumeow (10 hours ago) [-]
Um, don't you know?! They alien reptile jews faked the moon landing so that 9/11 chemtrails could oil!
#73 - trickytrickster (10 hours ago) [-]
It was the Koch brothers.
User avatar #76 - azumeow (10 hours ago) [-]
And the CIA! They JFK'd Lincoln so that AIDS!
#289 - But he can't. I can't answer that hypothetical question becaus…  [+] (4 new replies) 10 hours ago on What Would They Have To Gain? 0
User avatar #296 - testaburger (10 hours ago) [-]
That seems to me (as an atheist) as dodging the question, but fair enough.

So it's one big argument from incredulity (I can't imagine how this could have happened without god).

What's the difference between proving himself to 2 people versus proving himself to 200000 people?
Is it not equally "destroying" the test of life?

But you realize that the kind of evidence that scientists consider valid, is not the kind of evidence religious people can provide?
We can prove the existence of whales, for example, but we can't seem to get the same kind of evidence from god.
Hell, even black holes, which we can't observe directly, we can still prove the existence of.
The lack of evidence is genuine. (evidence being the kind that science would accept)
#302 - trickytrickster (10 hours ago) [-]
Sorry it feels like dodging. It's just not an answerable question. It's like but what if 2+2=5 instead? It can't, 2 is a set thing. Sure you could redefine 2 as 2.5, but then 2 is no longer 2, it is something totally different.

Oh I know that type of evidence is lacking. It will always be lacking. That's what I meant I guess. You will never get that evidence. You will never get to look at something and be like there, that is God, look at this chart. Even if you did, it would probably get explained away.
User avatar #303 - testaburger (10 hours ago) [-]
I get it, and yet I don't get it. You get what I'm saying?
I don't get it, but I'll accept your answer.

And that lack of definitive evidence is why people such as myself are atheists.


Can we continue this some other time? It's late and I got math from 8am tomorrow, so I need sleep.
Got other stuff I wanna talk about.
#305 - trickytrickster (10 hours ago) [-]
Ha you must be in a timezone close to me. I got work at 9am anyway. I will friend you or something.

I understand why someone who wants evidence would be atheist, but to me there is more to it than just evidence.
#109 - In June 2010, Barton questioned the wisdom of deficit spending…  [+] (5 new replies) 10 hours ago on Joe Barton, Texas... 0
User avatar #117 - Toshiro (10 hours ago) [-]
I love when people take stuff like this out of context.
#120 - trickytrickster (10 hours ago) [-]
He sounds really stupid, but it is actually a somewhat okay question. Wind turbines do slow down the wind.
User avatar #126 - Toshiro (10 hours ago) [-]
It's a very good question, granted it could have been better worded, but the question still stands.
User avatar #158 - isolovegames (8 hours ago) [-]
**isolovegames rolls 643** Honestly america's govn't is with everything as long it doesn't deduct there pay in ANY way. Think about it why wouldn't the 'A-gov' want cleaner ways to create energy? Because they would lose money on oil using energy.

*side note* I dont have time to stick around I gotta go to a party so that is why it poorly worded.
User avatar #177 - Toshiro (7 hours ago) [-]
To be fair, America isn't the only Government guilty of that.
#58 - They are such trace amounts and they are in there for a reason…  [+] (5 new replies) 10 hours ago on Autism +1
User avatar #59 - azumeow (10 hours ago) [-]
Because they think they're special because they know about a grand conspiracy. I'm paranoid about shit too.

I'm also ashamed of it because I KNOW that I'm just paranoid.
#69 - trickytrickster (10 hours ago) [-]
I mean some conspiracies are right. Most aren't.
User avatar #70 - azumeow (10 hours ago) [-]
Um, don't you know?! They alien reptile jews faked the moon landing so that 9/11 chemtrails could oil!
#73 - trickytrickster (10 hours ago) [-]
It was the Koch brothers.
User avatar #76 - azumeow (10 hours ago) [-]
And the CIA! They JFK'd Lincoln so that AIDS!
#258 - Your statement cannot be answered because God would never do t…  [+] (7 new replies) 10 hours ago on What Would They Have To Gain? 0
User avatar #265 - testaburger (10 hours ago) [-]
Humor me. Say he did, hypothetically.

" I find evidence in the work I do in genetics/bacteria"
Would you elaborate?

"it would destroy the point of faith and the test of life if we knew for a fact God was there."
But in "biblical times", god did all kinds of stuff that, today, would be indicative of a higher power. Magical plagues, killing of firstborns, creation of stone tablets, talking from a burning bush, etc. He proved his existence a bunch of times.
So why is it not okay now, but was back then?

Also, doesn't the Pope supposedly talk to god (or something like that. I'm not much into Catholicism). Isn't that effectively god proving himself to the Pope?
User avatar #314 - goldenglimmer (10 hours ago) [-]
In Biblical times, in other words "pre-Jesus" and before the fulfillment of the old prophecies described in the Scriptures, God is said to have intervened a lot more in the physical world. However, it is already established that the Bible is full of symbolism and anecdotal stories designed to help one create and maintain a moral framework, so one explanation is that these instances of interventionism are exactly that.

Although, it could also be argued that God's actions in the ancient world occurred in order to verify the life and teachings of Jesus, who fulfilled the prophecies and white-washed every human soul by dying on the cross, and rendering the effects of Original Sin null. See, the main job of Jesus was to create a bridge between God and mankind. No imperfect being and exist in a perfect world, so mankind is technically unable to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, because we are all contaminated by sin. However, God 's love for us (Greek philosophy: agape - God's eternal love) was so strong and unconditional that He gave a part of Himself (Jesus) and established the Holy Trinity, so that all those who desire life can come to Him, regardless of the severity of their sins.
Considering this, all of God's previous actions have led up to the Crucifixion and the first Easter, and so the only thing separating us from Him now is a matter of faith, and making our own decision to follow Him (I believe one can "follow" Jesus in many ways - not just through the teachings of the Church).

Regarding the Pope, I don't think it's said that God directly "talks" to him. Perhaps in some ways, but it's more of a sense, or calling, that he is given. The same thing happens to priests - they receive a calling to serve (if they're legitimate).
#289 - trickytrickster (10 hours ago) [-]
But he can't. I can't answer that hypothetical question because it is a nonsense question. I'm not dodging the question, it's just how it is. God wouldn't be God anymore if that happened. It would be agains this nature, his being. Sorry if that isn't the answer you are looking for.

This is of course my opinion only. As a Catholic who believes in evolution and genetics and the big bang(all approved by the Church/created by priests), just learning about something as complex as polymerase, or the process of transcription, or just how it all got started, for that to happen randomly by chance, I don't think enough time in the world has passed. I mean first off some form of transcription or some form of replication or some form of energy production would have to occur somehow first before these things could even happen, also by chance. It's just sooooo ridiculously complex. And that's just at the molecular level. I am a person who believes in a God-guided evolution, and I think the level of complexity of life validates that idea more than it just happening by mutation, etc.

He proved his existance to select people yes, but never in a mass produced widespread thing. Even with the plagues, etc, did the Egyptians all become Jews? Nope. Even when faced with obvious evidence, people reject it.

Also God doesn't talk to anyone more or less than anyone else. The Pope is simply the head of the church. He can speak with infallibility, which has only happened like 2 times ever, one of which was Mary being a virgin, and it is only on faith based things. God proves himself to people all the time, but it's on a personal basis, not a widespread basis. I mean God came down from heaven and lived life as a man for crying out loud lol. He obviously proved himself doing miracles(which he still ended up getting killed). I simply meant there will always be people who question evidence and so on.
User avatar #296 - testaburger (10 hours ago) [-]
That seems to me (as an atheist) as dodging the question, but fair enough.

So it's one big argument from incredulity (I can't imagine how this could have happened without god).

What's the difference between proving himself to 2 people versus proving himself to 200000 people?
Is it not equally "destroying" the test of life?

But you realize that the kind of evidence that scientists consider valid, is not the kind of evidence religious people can provide?
We can prove the existence of whales, for example, but we can't seem to get the same kind of evidence from god.
Hell, even black holes, which we can't observe directly, we can still prove the existence of.
The lack of evidence is genuine. (evidence being the kind that science would accept)
#302 - trickytrickster (10 hours ago) [-]
Sorry it feels like dodging. It's just not an answerable question. It's like but what if 2+2=5 instead? It can't, 2 is a set thing. Sure you could redefine 2 as 2.5, but then 2 is no longer 2, it is something totally different.

Oh I know that type of evidence is lacking. It will always be lacking. That's what I meant I guess. You will never get that evidence. You will never get to look at something and be like there, that is God, look at this chart. Even if you did, it would probably get explained away.
User avatar #303 - testaburger (10 hours ago) [-]
I get it, and yet I don't get it. You get what I'm saying?
I don't get it, but I'll accept your answer.

And that lack of definitive evidence is why people such as myself are atheists.


Can we continue this some other time? It's late and I got math from 8am tomorrow, so I need sleep.
Got other stuff I wanna talk about.
#305 - trickytrickster (10 hours ago) [-]
Ha you must be in a timezone close to me. I got work at 9am anyway. I will friend you or something.

I understand why someone who wants evidence would be atheist, but to me there is more to it than just evidence.
#55 - I will sum this up by saying, you get more arsenic/mercury/for…  [+] (7 new replies) 10 hours ago on Autism 0
User avatar #56 - azumeow (10 hours ago) [-]
It's also inert. And a preservative.

But GOD FUCKING FORBID these people ever actually look up this crap.
#58 - trickytrickster (10 hours ago) [-]
They are such trace amounts and they are in there for a reason. It's basic science but a lot of people want to get all tinfoil hats about it.
User avatar #59 - azumeow (10 hours ago) [-]
Because they think they're special because they know about a grand conspiracy. I'm paranoid about shit too.

I'm also ashamed of it because I KNOW that I'm just paranoid.
#69 - trickytrickster (10 hours ago) [-]
I mean some conspiracies are right. Most aren't.
User avatar #70 - azumeow (10 hours ago) [-]
Um, don't you know?! They alien reptile jews faked the moon landing so that 9/11 chemtrails could oil!
#73 - trickytrickster (10 hours ago) [-]
It was the Koch brothers.
User avatar #76 - azumeow (10 hours ago) [-]
And the CIA! They JFK'd Lincoln so that AIDS!

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