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#81 - People like trump cause he's not part of the establishment. Bu… 06/16/2016 on Islamic Support For Hillary... 0
#10 - Yeah now that you mention it 06/16/2016 on Mercy 76 best ship +6
#6 - Now that you mention it, man Genji got it hard.  [+] (23 new replies) 06/16/2016 on Mercy 76 best ship +55
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#7 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
It especially makes me sad because he's SO KIND and Hanzo still rejects him even though he knew Hanzo was burning incense in his memory and gave up the sword over what he had done. Like how must it feeeeeel that like you're like "oh hey my brother regrets his decision better tell him i'm alive."

"ew you aren't genji"
#67 - anon (06/16/2016) [-]
i bet hanzo could still whip genji's butt in swordfights
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#65 - confusedasian (06/16/2016) [-]
That's after he met Zenyatta. Genji before was a playboy type of person, then he was cold because he was conflicted about becoming a cyborg, but after training/meeting with Zenyatta he became the man he is now.

I would act the same way as Hanzo if my brother came back from the dead as a cyborg. I wouldn't believe it at first, and it would take me a long time to accept it.
#40 - questionableferret (06/16/2016) [-]
Luckily Genji doesn't seem to be taking it too hard.
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#97 - velzizar (06/16/2016) [-]
Yup, "Maybe I am a fool for believing there is still hope for you." Genji just gets all sassy.
#13 - anon (06/16/2016) [-]
Don't forget Widowmaker's little story too. Pretty sad if you read it. Something about neural reconditioning or something.
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#15 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
I don't feel bad about her story just because she isn't like, actually suffering from it, you know?
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#43 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
she was brainwashed and tortured into not feeling any emotions and then sent out to kill her own husband.

im pretty sure that deserves a lot of sympathy and woe.
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#71 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
Yeah, I was saying I don't feel as bad because she's a bitch now from the psychological conditioning, as opposed to actually struggling with inner turmoil
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#72 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
there isnt any room for it since her personality was destroyed. i think that is a lot sadder than just having inner turmoil.

she used to be a sweet loving wife, and now she has been tortured into a cold blooded killing machine with almost no hope for returning back to normal.
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#73 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
I get that, it's just I don't feel bad for characters much if they aren't feelin' the struggle u kno
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#74 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
thats rather cold of you.
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#75 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
I mean also I'm into dudes so like I have more feelings to spare for them
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#76 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
well that was a turn i wasnt expecting...still rather cold you would ignore an entire gender for their struggles because you arent attracted to them but...y know i wasnt expecting this turn around.
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#78 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
Eh well I just added it as a reason
I don't consider her as tragic as darth vader or bucky like you said below because the reality is she IS only Widowmaker, unlike darth and bucky who still were themselves in the end.
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#80 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
thats because you are thinking about their ending, not the middle point.

aka the point where widow is. at the same point, bucky was emotionless hitman, and vader was a sith lord that wanted to corrupt his son to the dark side and rule the galaxy with him after killing his master. they were only winter soldier and darth vader at that point as well.
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#82 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
I get that, but I don't believe Amelie exists anymore, so there's no redemption, no struggle, no end. Like it's just a sad backstory and that's it
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#85 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
same way bucky didnt exist during his brainwashed state.

or why obi wan said anakin was dead. neither of them existed by that point because of the brainwashing they had endured. didnt make them any less tragic once you learned of their past.

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#86 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
but we knew about their redemption and the end of their story, that's literally the difference between them and her

nobody considered them tragic until they found out they actually had to face the thing's they've done. Idk what more you need of an explanation to see that's what makes it different
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#87 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
we didnt feel sad for anakin because in the end he overcame the dark side and went to the light, we felt sad for him because he only wanted to help those he loved but ended up horribly maimed,brainwashed and killing those he loved.

we didnt feel sad for bucky because in the end he got free from brainwashing and went back to adventuring with cap, we felt sad for him because he used to be a noble hero, who was then brainwashed and used to further the goals of those he opposed in the past.

their redemption was not what made them tragic characters its the turmoil and fate they had before their redemption

the redemption was their happy ending, and ending to the tragedy that struck them.
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#45 - masdercheef (06/16/2016) [-]
Eh, way I see it, Amélie Lacroix is dead. She died when Talon took her and did... whatever it is they did. Turned her into a hollow shell of her former person, a living weapon. Kind of like Bucky Barnes.

There is no Amélie left. Only Widowmaker.
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#46 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
yeah..her entire personality got destroyed. widowmaker is basically a mockery of who she used to be.she is a tragic character along the lines of darth vader and bucky.
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#3 - Morrison is probably the one character I feel bad for. The ent…  [+] (95 new replies) 06/16/2016 on Mercy 76 best ship +386
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#139 - lesolan (06/16/2016) [-]
I don't know anything about the game (I really don't care for the art style) but that sounds amazing.
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#134 - fffffffuuuuuuuuuuu (06/16/2016) [-]
Lorewatch Widowmaker  Overwatch Lore  Speculation I also kind of feel bad for Widowmaker.
#136 - anon (06/16/2016) [-]
implying she's not genuinely enjoying it now and completely mind broken
#137 - anon (06/16/2016) [-]
Sounds like the plot of err, "online mangas" I like to read.
#108 - anon (06/16/2016) [-]
sounds a familiar story
#148 - sirgawain (06/16/2016) [-]
Literally just finished the anime an hour ago.
Gonna watch the movies next week and start reading the manga.

Hyped for July 1st though, 'cause I was seriously disappointed when the anime left off without any explanation of how Guts ESCAPES HELL and how he only kills ONE demon in the last (first) episode.
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#143 - csgtsheep (06/16/2016) [-]
Except Jack probably didn't have his GF raped into retardation & is probably not hunted by demons every night.
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#107 - psychologyxplain (06/16/2016) [-]
Actually, it wasn't because of Reyes. Reyes' fate was because of JACK. See, Reyes (Reaper) was in charge of the Overwatch team and led it with his best friend and right hand man, Jack Morrison (SOldier 76). As things went along, however, Morrison ended up becoming idolized by the populace, and became the poster boy. Shortly after, he was promoted and Reyes was DEMOTED. This caused a strain on their relationship, which made things even worse one the Omnic crisis reached a point where the OW heroes and heroines couldn't keep up on their own, and the public blamed them for everything. It was actually the close-minded, ignorant public who ruined it.

Now, we don't know HOW or WHY Gabriel Reyes became Reaper, but I think it might have something to do with his time in Blackwatch with Mcree (The Covert-Ops portion of Overwatch), as well as some possible shit with Talon (The terrorist organization he went to, and that made Widowmaker who she is)

For more information, they have a GREAT wiki up!
overwatch.gamepedia.com/Blackwatch
overwatch.gamepedia.com/Soldier:_76
overwatch.gamepedia.com/Reaper
overwatch.gamepedia.com/Talon

Semper Praesans!
Stay Happy, Health, and Safe (And game on!)
#112 - anon (06/16/2016) [-]
You are correct on the lore itself, but saying that Reyes has become Reaper because of Jack is bullshit. Misenterpretation, nothing more.

Jack's promotion was the even that made Reyes become an edgy d-bag, but it's not like that's the only thing you do after someone is promoted in your place. Come on. Of all the goddamn options he HAD TO choose to blow up a building and kill everyone? How stuck-up and envious one has to be to react this way? Doesn't matter anyway - it was his choice and thus his burden. Jack was simply a better person for a team leader, that's not a reason to be envious about. He should've been proud of his friends' success. That's what a friend does. Instead, he did... well, this.

Nah, man. It's Reyes' fault, not anyone else's.
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#114 - psychologyxplain (06/16/2016) [-]
I didn't mean that he turned Reyes into Reaper, that was poor wording on my part. I can see where you're coming from, but I personally would blame the actual Overwatch higher-ups. I mean, just because Morrison was a pretty boy (Not to say he's not a skilled combatant, he's a highly skilled killing machine and obviously a good tactician/leader to have lead OW as long as he did) he get's HIS face on the poster. Then they put him in Reyes place. Now, I'd be lying if I said that I thought Reyes acted as a normal, well-adjusted man should when he gets demoted, but I'd still place most of the blame on the public and the higher-ups.

Also, thank you for being able to have and discuss a differing opinion than mine without calling me names and throwing tricks from the Basket of Logical Fallacies at me. It's nice to discuss similar interests with people, especially when your opinions differ, because if you pay enough attention, you'll learn something new

Semper Praesans
Stay Happy, Healthy, and Safe
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#133 - zers (06/16/2016) [-]
I believe Overwatch wasn't actually a fully fledged organization until after the Omnic crisis. Reyes was only leading the group because he was simply the oldest. Morrison was the one that shaped the group and kept everyone together. When it finally came time for the group to become official Morrison was chosen because of his actions in the group, etc. This caused Reyes to turn into a 5 year old and resent Morrison.
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#156 - TimUsher (06/17/2016) [-]
This is correct. Overwatch was more of a task force during the First Omnic Crisis. After the crisis was averted Jack became the official head of Overwatch and Reyes became the head of Blackwatch. This lead to Jack receiving more attention since his side of the organization was more public when compared to Reyes' black-ops division. This eventually led to an explosive confrontation. The resent Reyes felt was built up overtime and released all at once.
#106 - topcommentmime (06/16/2016) [-]
Morrison is probably the one character I feel bad for. The entire organization he strived to make successful was brought down by his best friend. He lost almost everything, yet he keeps fighting to bring those who brought down his organization to justice. He's like if Captain America had everyone turn against him and turned into the Punisher.
#147 - anon (06/16/2016) [-]
Mimes are silent asshole. You're giving mimes everywhere a bad name.
#145 - thegrimgenius (06/16/2016) [-]
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#157 - advice (06/17/2016) [-]
best show.
#102 - monsoons (06/16/2016) [-]
where is it you have found all of this information back story I would really like to know and read it all as ive only seen the cinematics
#127 - anon (06/16/2016) [-]
Go look on the wiki, there are backstories for everyone there and they have sources so you can find the originals.
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#94 - timmity (06/16/2016) [-]
Ignoring the comment completely and focusing on the picture.
He is both older and more stereotypically american than that. Way more.
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#66 - ridleycougar (06/16/2016) [-]
widowmaker was brainwashed using torture to murder her husband who she loved then augmented to never feel emotion again
I guess she's bucky, to continue with the marvel analogies
#90 - wattlegobbler (06/16/2016) [-]
You know, she could have taken vengence on those who forced her to do so by killing every member of their Company
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#113 - ridleycougar (06/16/2016) [-]
she got a washed brain yo, and her emotions are also kaput
did my bucky barns analogy not help?
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#110 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
>>#104, she was already emotionless and brainwashed by the time she killed her husband.

athena was trained, she was tortured,mutilated,experimented on and brainwashed to become an assassin.
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#111 - wattlegobbler (06/16/2016) [-]
But also drilled like widowmaker. It's only a question of will and someone you need a close one to break out
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#115 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
but she wasnt brainwashed tortured and had all her emotions destroyed via drugs and then had her very body altered via surgery.


she didnt go through even nearly as bad training as widow was.
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#95 - twiceasfun (06/16/2016) [-]
No emotion means no will to take vengeance
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#104 - wattlegobbler (06/16/2016) [-]
Because she's dumb as fuck. She became emotionless after she killed her husband while Athena was trained to be a asassin for Atlas since her childhood and destroyed the Company after she was forced to kill her own Sister.
#48 - tiinuyama (06/16/2016) [-]
ok that sounds badass
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#54 - Trashcat (06/16/2016) [-]
i would pay to see that movie
#44 - anon (06/16/2016) [-]
Not sure if anyones said this, but where do you guys get the lore from? I havent looked hard but i cant really find much
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#96 - velzizar (06/16/2016) [-]
There is the overwatch wiki. It has lore on every character. If you think of starting off, better do it now, as it isn't that much. Don't let Blizzard build up that wall of lore on you. You will be lost in it.
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#51 - krygas (06/16/2016) [-]
The playlist is inverse, so go from the lowest videos to the top.

Lorewatch The Omnic Crisis  Overwatch Lore  Speculation
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#52 - krygas (06/16/2016) [-]
Turns out funnyjunk annihilates playlists. You can just find it on the guy's channel.
#8 - greyblade (06/16/2016) [-]
He's like if Captain America had everyone turn against him


a bit like the civil war comics.
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#88 - temporalguardian (06/16/2016) [-]
You forgot the everyone bit
#121 - greyblade (06/16/2016) [-]
true, but that's the closest example I got.
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#10 - themarineelite (06/16/2016) [-]
Yeah now that you mention it
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#5 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
I feel bad for a lot of characters
Winston, Genji, Morrison and Reyes namely.
#50 - kinginthenorth (06/16/2016) [-]
While the backstory is sad, he did get a kick-ass cyborg body / booty out of it.
I dont care what it'd take, but if i could get a cyborg body like Genji's i'd do it in a heartbeat.
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#18 - nurucio (06/16/2016) [-]
I love Reyes so much. I really feel like he was manipulated, probably Talon inside Blackwatch starting shit.
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#19 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
I'm extremely obsessed with Reaper/Reyes
(like, I'm 24 and for the first time in 8 years writing fanfic about Reaper)

But no yeah I definitely think Reyes' feelings were played on and then he got super fucked up when Mercy tried to play God
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#160 - hourlyb (06/27/2016) [-]
I got a random question for you, given you are a writer.
What's your readout of Reaper76? Like it, hate it, whatever.
Because I really dislike it. I know it's really autistic to be mad over a ship, but I still just hate how much angst and "ugghhhhh we shudln't be tugethur but we are and we're so angsty and bleghhehhehheeddhehe" most of (read; ALL) the story lines are.
Honestly, it just feels like what a 14 year old girl would write. And not to mention, S76 isn't really a angsty character, or at least in the way that people write him as. I personally see Jack and Gabriel as being bros and then something happens to turn them against each other.
I'm also writing a fic, mostly Mercy76, maybe some others, and I think I got the perfect reason.
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#162 - renegademimi (06/27/2016) [-]
oh also it's not that big of a deal to be mad about a ship
Mercykill makes me super angry because Reaper hates Mercy because she fucked him up and blames her for the fucked up curse he has, so when people are like "omg let's draw reaper and mercy being fluffy together" i'm just like

no pls stop
#161 - renegademimi (06/27/2016) [-]
I'm kind of on the edge for Reaper76
On the one hand, I totally get that they were super close at one point, and totally support the idea of people shipping them on the basis of that, simply because I support ships that could have made sense, characters that have been close in the first place being together. So I fully accept Gabe/Jack specifically.

On the other hand, it IS a bunch of angst filled shit when it's Reaper and Soldier in present time. At best, I'd consider Reaper76 in like, non-consensual terms because I hate that people don't take a character's dislike for someone seriously. This is why I also hate Reaper/Mercy and Tracer/Widowmaker. But in Gabe/Jack case we know they didn't always hate each other u feel me.

So I guess basically i'm not anti Reap76 so much as I'm anti how people write it, because I don't believe that Soldier would want to be with Reaper, and if Reaper wanted to be with soldier it would solely be in the sexual sense of trying to break him. So more power than want.

Also I'm too busy hating McHanzo and Mercykill to really care about Reaper76 much.

Also if you're writing fics, I love me some fics so if you're posting them on AO3 or Tumblr i'd be happy to support more fic writers
#163 - hourlyb (06/28/2016) [-]
Yeah, I suppose that does make sense.
I guess it's also just that Jack is supposed to be this salt of the earth American, do good and help the weak, blonde hair, blue eyes soldier. He's the 'standard' basically, like Captain America, and that character generally isn't gay/bi. Accepting sure, but usually he is straight for the purposes of relatability. Prolly a bit homophobic, but that's just what I think. Plus, Jack and Angela make a really cute couple. I can def see Reyes as bi, though. Nobody who buys that much Hot Topic can be 100% straight
I agree with you on Mercykill, it makes no sense for him to not hate her, it's pretty much her fault he's a bunch of smoke and not much else. Same for WidowTracer, like Widow fucking murders someone Tracer reveres, like Jesus level shit, bet that's making Tracer real hot. And McHanzo just looks cute, something for girls to gush over. I hate it from a character point of view, but I kinda get it from a purely masturbatory view.
Generally I stay way away from rape/non-con shit. I think the closest I got was a REALLLLLLLLLLLY shit fic I did between Shepard and Miranda where it was femdom and she takes it too far, stops and it gets all mushy from there.
I don't think I even have it anymore. I don't have the talent or drive to really go into that territory, honestly. I kinda want to start posting my fics on Tumblr, but it isn't finished yet. Might do chapters or some shit.
Anyway sorry about the wait, I just started Fallout 4.
But my idea for the story is pretty good imo, especially with why Reaper turns.
Basically, I'm making Reyes Pharah's dad and Ana's husband. Jack makes a call that get's Ana killed (something like either save a group of civi's or save her) and Reyes takes it that Jack has become a glory hound, putting his fame above the lives of others. Reyes goes to Talon, everything from there is history.
Also, what is your opinion on a Pharah/McCree pair? I think it could work, both of them being justice crazy. She'd be dominant, and he'd just kinda be laid back.
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#164 - renegademimi (06/28/2016) [-]
I get your point about the Jack/Captain America thing, but keep in mind that even if Jack is meant to embody similar things, Overwatch is 60 years in the future, and as it CURRENTLY stands there are already people who have similar character as Jack does who aren't straight, so while I can get why Captain America WOULD be totally not into dudes, Jack was born in a different time. Probably around 2025 to be specific, so like, who knows you know?

Anyways I just started writing after like, years, so you shouldn't feel too uncertain about what you write, i'm sure it'll work out well for you. I've only been writing for like 2 weeks after years of nothing and I'm getting a lot of praise basically, I'm even seeing people on OTHER websites who are like "Oh I know you!"

I like your ideas, they seem good.

While the Pharah/McCree thing seems a bit unusual, I can totally get where you're coming from. The only thing that makes me feel a little weird about it is that I see McCree as a dirty, dirty man but Pharah as a clean cut woman, u kno?

And yeah, McHanzo is so obviously masturbatory material, and the art is so good and so hot, I just wish people like, understood it's clearly for a "damn that's hot" sake as opposed to actually even remotely realistic.
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#166 - hourlyb (06/28/2016) [-]
Also, the fact that they are polar opposites can be used, given that they don't hate each other.
You working on any other fics, outside of the self-insert one's you posted earlier?
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#167 - renegademimi (06/28/2016) [-]
I totally believe with the way society is going that gay is definitely becoming much more common though. Anyways, i wouldn't call it homophobic like you said about being so against? the idea of Jack being gay but i think your reasons are silly since Overwatch is putting so much depth into their characters

Anywho not really, i just keep doing "WhateverCharacterXFemale Reader" fics, seems to be working out, lots of people read them, most of them are smutty
I just haven't REALLY fallen for an actual in game ship enough to write about it yet
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#169 - hourlyb (07/10/2016) [-]
Hey, bit late, but I've finally started posting my fic on ao3 and tumblr.
Lemme know what you think, thanks!
archiveofourown.org/works/7445920/chapters/16917316
hourlyb.tumblr.com/post/146817485930/overwatch-cant-make-a-good-name-for-a-fanfic
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#168 - hourlyb (06/28/2016) [-]
I dunno. I would agree with you if being gay was a choice, but it isn't. It's a result of several factors. I think that since being gay is more acceptable in today's society, and people are more open about their sexualities, it seems like the amount of people who are gay is increasing. But that doesn't mean that it actually is.
But I mean, straight characters can have depth. You don't need to be LGBT to be an interesting character with a good backstory and plot.
I only really ship mercy76 at this point, I also like Russian Winter (Zarya/Mei) and Tracer/Lucio. I haven't written any smut yet, not sure if that's unfortunate or not, honestly.
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#165 - hourlyb (06/28/2016) [-]
True, but gay people have always existed, it is a biological trait, and just because it is more acceptable to be gay doesn't necessarily mean that more people will be gay.
I guess I'm saying that if you have a "standard" type character, meant to be relatable to a large portion of the world, and given that about 95% of the world is straight, he's more than likely going to be straight, or have a heavy preference for women.
McCree could be the rogue desperado with a penchant for street justice and a silver tongue/arm and Pharah the up tight officer that has studied the law to the letter.
He teaches her about following the spirit of the law, and she give him discipline and a partner.
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#20 - nurucio (06/16/2016) [-]
Link? I haven't read fanfic in years but Overwatch has turned me into a complete loser. Do you like Hanzo as well?
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#21 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
S-sorry but
it's blatant smut written for female readers. like reaperxreader stuff

I'm fuckin dirty
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#22 - nurucio (06/16/2016) [-]
Nigga I'm a woman
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#92 - wattlegobbler (06/16/2016) [-]
Women, i'm a nigger
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#24 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
Also pls don't judge my mediocre writing
My Soldier: 76 stuff is better than my Reaper stuff... so far.
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#25 - nurucio (06/16/2016) [-]
Hey I actually read the Reaper one!
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#26 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
O-Oh I see
that's embarrassing
anyways I'm actually writing up another chapter right now
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#27 - nurucio (06/16/2016) [-]
I liked it
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#28 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
O, well thank
Yeah I'm really enjoying writing and reading OW fics, and there were too few for my taste so i decided to make my own
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#30 - nurucio (06/16/2016) [-]
I love the stories people can come up with. I can come up with them myself, but can never put them to words. Always been envious of people like you. I love smutty and non smutty ones alike.
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#31 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
I totally get that, it's pretty much for that reason I haven't written anything in years.
I hope to get more into writing and reading now tho (I also haven't READ fanfics in a long time) esp since I love all the qt men of Overwatch, you know, Reaper, Genji, Soldier, Hanzo, and McCree.

I'm hoping to write something with one of the Shimadas soon since I've done Soldier, McCree and Reaper so far.
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#32 - nurucio (06/16/2016) [-]
Oh man, my man Hanzo. I love him and Reyes dearly, they just need the biggest hugs. Morrison too.
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#33 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
Hanzo was my fav until Reaper grew on me. Now I just love like, all of them
There was one specific McCree fic that made me like him a bunch and Genji is a serious case of I wan't to fuck the robot. They all have so many qualities between the 5 of them that I just can't handle it, it's like each one was designed with a specific desire of mine in mind.
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#34 - nurucio (06/16/2016) [-]
It doesn't help that Genji has a booty that won't quit and Reyes has godly thighs
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#35 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
And Hanzo got the firm tiddies.
I wonder how many FJers are gonna see this degenerate conversation ahah...
#63 - toguro (06/16/2016) [-]
I SEE ALL
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#36 - nurucio (06/16/2016) [-]
That he does, and an inferiority complex that makes me want to shake him silly. Meh, let em judge if they so wish. People are entitled to their opinions.
#37 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
I keep praying in my weak heart that since it's summer Blizzard would come out with a beach-themed set of skins for everything. I need reaper thighs in something like this but I know it would never happen
#39 - nurucio (06/16/2016) [-]
That crotch tho, reminds me of the Blackwatch skin
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#6 - themarineelite (06/16/2016) [-]
Now that you mention it, man Genji got it hard.
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#7 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
It especially makes me sad because he's SO KIND and Hanzo still rejects him even though he knew Hanzo was burning incense in his memory and gave up the sword over what he had done. Like how must it feeeeeel that like you're like "oh hey my brother regrets his decision better tell him i'm alive."

"ew you aren't genji"
#67 - anon (06/16/2016) [-]
i bet hanzo could still whip genji's butt in swordfights
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#65 - confusedasian (06/16/2016) [-]
That's after he met Zenyatta. Genji before was a playboy type of person, then he was cold because he was conflicted about becoming a cyborg, but after training/meeting with Zenyatta he became the man he is now.

I would act the same way as Hanzo if my brother came back from the dead as a cyborg. I wouldn't believe it at first, and it would take me a long time to accept it.
#40 - questionableferret (06/16/2016) [-]
Luckily Genji doesn't seem to be taking it too hard.
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#97 - velzizar (06/16/2016) [-]
Yup, "Maybe I am a fool for believing there is still hope for you." Genji just gets all sassy.
#13 - anon (06/16/2016) [-]
Don't forget Widowmaker's little story too. Pretty sad if you read it. Something about neural reconditioning or something.
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#15 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
I don't feel bad about her story just because she isn't like, actually suffering from it, you know?
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#43 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
she was brainwashed and tortured into not feeling any emotions and then sent out to kill her own husband.

im pretty sure that deserves a lot of sympathy and woe.
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#71 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
Yeah, I was saying I don't feel as bad because she's a bitch now from the psychological conditioning, as opposed to actually struggling with inner turmoil
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#72 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
there isnt any room for it since her personality was destroyed. i think that is a lot sadder than just having inner turmoil.

she used to be a sweet loving wife, and now she has been tortured into a cold blooded killing machine with almost no hope for returning back to normal.
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#73 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
I get that, it's just I don't feel bad for characters much if they aren't feelin' the struggle u kno
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#74 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
thats rather cold of you.
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#75 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
I mean also I'm into dudes so like I have more feelings to spare for them
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#76 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
well that was a turn i wasnt expecting...still rather cold you would ignore an entire gender for their struggles because you arent attracted to them but...y know i wasnt expecting this turn around.
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#78 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
Eh well I just added it as a reason
I don't consider her as tragic as darth vader or bucky like you said below because the reality is she IS only Widowmaker, unlike darth and bucky who still were themselves in the end.
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#80 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
thats because you are thinking about their ending, not the middle point.

aka the point where widow is. at the same point, bucky was emotionless hitman, and vader was a sith lord that wanted to corrupt his son to the dark side and rule the galaxy with him after killing his master. they were only winter soldier and darth vader at that point as well.
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#82 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
I get that, but I don't believe Amelie exists anymore, so there's no redemption, no struggle, no end. Like it's just a sad backstory and that's it
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#85 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
same way bucky didnt exist during his brainwashed state.

or why obi wan said anakin was dead. neither of them existed by that point because of the brainwashing they had endured. didnt make them any less tragic once you learned of their past.

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#86 - renegademimi (06/16/2016) [-]
but we knew about their redemption and the end of their story, that's literally the difference between them and her

nobody considered them tragic until they found out they actually had to face the thing's they've done. Idk what more you need of an explanation to see that's what makes it different
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#87 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
we didnt feel sad for anakin because in the end he overcame the dark side and went to the light, we felt sad for him because he only wanted to help those he loved but ended up horribly maimed,brainwashed and killing those he loved.

we didnt feel sad for bucky because in the end he got free from brainwashing and went back to adventuring with cap, we felt sad for him because he used to be a noble hero, who was then brainwashed and used to further the goals of those he opposed in the past.

their redemption was not what made them tragic characters its the turmoil and fate they had before their redemption

the redemption was their happy ending, and ending to the tragedy that struck them.
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#45 - masdercheef (06/16/2016) [-]
Eh, way I see it, Amélie Lacroix is dead. She died when Talon took her and did... whatever it is they did. Turned her into a hollow shell of her former person, a living weapon. Kind of like Bucky Barnes.

There is no Amélie left. Only Widowmaker.
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#46 - angelious (06/16/2016) [-]
yeah..her entire personality got destroyed. widowmaker is basically a mockery of who she used to be.she is a tragic character along the lines of darth vader and bucky.
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#38 - nationalanthem (06/15/2016) [-]
oh, i see.. the problem isn't that it's politic posts.. the problem is that you're left-wing, and you're mad right-wing is gaining ground in a place you like? that's just sad OP

maybe people are getting sick and tired of leftwing political correctness? maybe you should wake up and smell the shit on your knees? or maybe you should at least respect other opinions than your own?
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#39 - themarineelite (06/15/2016) [-]
I'M SICK AND FUCKING TIRED OF PEOPLE CALLING ME LEFT WING.
I SUPPORT THE 2ND AMENDMENT
I THINK THE FUCKING IMMIGRANTS COMING FROM THE MIDDLE EAST SHOULD FUCK OFF
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I'm not even politically correct, It's not that the right is gaining ground, it's that the fucking extremists on the right side are gaining ground. People are calling for another fucking hitler to show up to deal with the problem in Europe and it's sickening. I'll respect opinions that don't fuck with morality.
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#36 - creamymcgee (06/15/2016) [-]
I get my news from websites that pull links and articles from a multitude of sources. I'm not sticking to a single left leaning source for all my news. Funnyjunk is a fucking awful place to get your news since everything you see is based on if it gets thumbs up. Funnyjunk is a decent place to discuss politics and current world events though
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#37 - themarineelite (06/15/2016) [-]
It is a good place to discuss politics and current world events. But yeah the thumbs that causes something to show up on the front page is bullshit though.
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#32 - creamymcgee (06/15/2016) [-]
Thats it? Just one source? You really are living with your head in the sand then.
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#34 - themarineelite (06/15/2016) [-]
This is what I was talking about
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#36 - creamymcgee (06/15/2016) [-]
I get my news from websites that pull links and articles from a multitude of sources. I'm not sticking to a single left leaning source for all my news. Funnyjunk is a fucking awful place to get your news since everything you see is based on if it gets thumbs up. Funnyjunk is a decent place to discuss politics and current world events though
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#37 - themarineelite (06/15/2016) [-]
It is a good place to discuss politics and current world events. But yeah the thumbs that causes something to show up on the front page is bullshit though.
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#33 - nationalanthem (06/15/2016) [-]
what makes you so sure your sources have the full picture? better yet! what makes you think they actually share it with you?
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#30 - creamymcgee (06/15/2016) [-]
I'm not the one on trial here. All I asked is some common sources of news from you.
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#31 - themarineelite (06/15/2016) [-]
Fine if you really want to know I listen to CNN.
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#32 - creamymcgee (06/15/2016) [-]
Thats it? Just one source? You really are living with your head in the sand then.
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#34 - themarineelite (06/15/2016) [-]
This is what I was talking about
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#36 - creamymcgee (06/15/2016) [-]
I get my news from websites that pull links and articles from a multitude of sources. I'm not sticking to a single left leaning source for all my news. Funnyjunk is a fucking awful place to get your news since everything you see is based on if it gets thumbs up. Funnyjunk is a decent place to discuss politics and current world events though
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#37 - themarineelite (06/15/2016) [-]
It is a good place to discuss politics and current world events. But yeah the thumbs that causes something to show up on the front page is bullshit though.