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#169 - That's a good car.  [+] (1 new reply) 11/15/2014 on Dodge +2
User avatar #170 - gxela (11/15/2014) [-]
Its reliable. and can tow almost anything. I have an ag hitch on it. i have pulled 500 BU of corn before.
#102 - He didn't cut it. It denied me the pleasure...  [+] (2 new replies) 11/14/2014 on Breakfast +8
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#259 - It's okay man. You're a good cunt. : D 11/13/2014 on facebook posts 0
#251 - Exactly. I'm familiar with the stand-your-ground laws…  [+] (3 new replies) 11/13/2014 on facebook posts +1
#255 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
also, keep in mind im not being serious with this comment, but im from america its my right to be a judgemental condescending cunt :p
#254 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
oh man, ima give you a thumb just because your countrys laws arent fair
User avatar #259 - thegrayfox (11/13/2014) [-]
It's okay man. You're a good cunt. : D
#236 - You are wrong. If someone pulls out a gun, says it's …  [+] (7 new replies) 11/13/2014 on facebook posts +2
#246 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
to use deadly force you must see intent and action to follow through on those intentions, him saying hes gonna shoot or kill you or even pointing the gun at you shows his intent, him pulling the hammer back or again even pointing it at you shows action to follow through on his intentions, therefore it constitutes threat to life. Keep in mind im going by American Standards of self defense, if in your country you cant retaliate with deadly force unless he fires a bullet then i say you live in a fucked up country, noones life is worth more to you than your own, you should have the right to defend your life
User avatar #251 - thegrayfox (11/13/2014) [-]
Exactly.

I'm familiar with the stand-your-ground laws in the US.

Here (Serbia) you couldn't not retaliate with deadly force, as a civilian, EVEN if someone shoots you first.

I get a gun, shoot you in the leg. The only thing you can legally do is shoot me back in the leg. The laws are stupid, I know that. But that's how it is over here.
#255 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
also, keep in mind im not being serious with this comment, but im from america its my right to be a judgemental condescending cunt :p
#254 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
oh man, ima give you a thumb just because your countrys laws arent fair
User avatar #259 - thegrayfox (11/13/2014) [-]
It's okay man. You're a good cunt. : D
#244 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
Not true, in that situation a reasonable human would feel his life is threatened and deadly force is acceptable, it also depends on your scope of training, say if someone comes after you with a knife saying they gonna kill you then you dont have to let them get to close, since i have had armed security training i have to let them get closer to me than you do before i can shoot them, and special forces has to let them get right up on them before they can defend themselves. Rape is a permanent injury i can use deadly force against someone raping my kid, or anyone elses kid. And not a damn thing will happen to me. and no the father in that case did not break the law, his actions were legal self defense, he would have gotten off even if he had blown the dudes head off.
#245 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
in a rape situation i can use deadly force no matter who is being raped, because it causes permanent injury, but if some dude is just beating up someone else i cant legally go up and shoot him, or even take a bat to his face, thats excessive force
#199 - See, that's the problem. The law isn't adequate to enforce rul…  [+] (9 new replies) 11/13/2014 on facebook posts +2
#207 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
nah man, if a person is commiting deadly force you are allowed to use deadly force, if its just assault you cant use deadly force, deadly force is force to cause death or serious bodily injury(permanent body injury or major broken bones) so just assault doesnt cut it, however if there are 3 guys assaulting you then you are allowed to use deadly force. But the courts keep all this in mind, if the guy assaulting you dies then they try to see if you maliciously intended for him to die. and if they find out you did, ie "motherfucker get off me or ima kill you" then yeah you fucked up and are going to jail
#236 - thegrayfox (11/13/2014) [-]
You are wrong.

If someone pulls out a gun, says it's loaded, cocks the hammer and points it at your head... You are not allowed to retaliate with deadly force until he fires the first bullet.

In my country, even police officers are not allowed to shoot someone, unless the criminal fires first, regardless of how armed they are or what kind of verbal threat they say.

So legally, you could only retaliate with non-lethal force when someone comes at you with a gun, which can cause further cause accidental discharge, which can lead to even more death.

And you're wrong (at least in my country) as to what constitutes heavy injury. It doesn't have to be permanent injury, or any major broken bones. Any kind of fracture will do. Even if you manage to slightly fracture someone's rib, it constitutes heavy injury, even though it's a common injury, and in most cases, is not lethal.

You're grasping at straws really, if you think that splitting hairs in terms of what the law does and does not allow in terms of self-defense.

You get home, find out a dude is raping your 6 year old kid.
What? You're really gonna convince me, that you'd react by telling him: "Please sir, cease the vulgar and unlawful action that you are performing on my child, for I will be forced to call the police, and you will be in trouble".

And then he goes to court, gets 2 years in prison, gets out in a year and registers as a sex offender. Meanwhile your kid's mental stability is destroyed for the rest of his life.

You're telling me you wouldn't beat the shit out of the guy til he's crying for his life?
Pic related, dad caught him while he was raping his son.

In that particular case, the father was not charged, but he still did break the law. If he were to be charged, he'd be looking at prison time.
#246 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
to use deadly force you must see intent and action to follow through on those intentions, him saying hes gonna shoot or kill you or even pointing the gun at you shows his intent, him pulling the hammer back or again even pointing it at you shows action to follow through on his intentions, therefore it constitutes threat to life. Keep in mind im going by American Standards of self defense, if in your country you cant retaliate with deadly force unless he fires a bullet then i say you live in a fucked up country, noones life is worth more to you than your own, you should have the right to defend your life
User avatar #251 - thegrayfox (11/13/2014) [-]
Exactly.

I'm familiar with the stand-your-ground laws in the US.

Here (Serbia) you couldn't not retaliate with deadly force, as a civilian, EVEN if someone shoots you first.

I get a gun, shoot you in the leg. The only thing you can legally do is shoot me back in the leg. The laws are stupid, I know that. But that's how it is over here.
#255 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
also, keep in mind im not being serious with this comment, but im from america its my right to be a judgemental condescending cunt :p
#254 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
oh man, ima give you a thumb just because your countrys laws arent fair
User avatar #259 - thegrayfox (11/13/2014) [-]
It's okay man. You're a good cunt. : D
#244 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
Not true, in that situation a reasonable human would feel his life is threatened and deadly force is acceptable, it also depends on your scope of training, say if someone comes after you with a knife saying they gonna kill you then you dont have to let them get to close, since i have had armed security training i have to let them get closer to me than you do before i can shoot them, and special forces has to let them get right up on them before they can defend themselves. Rape is a permanent injury i can use deadly force against someone raping my kid, or anyone elses kid. And not a damn thing will happen to me. and no the father in that case did not break the law, his actions were legal self defense, he would have gotten off even if he had blown the dudes head off.
#245 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
in a rape situation i can use deadly force no matter who is being raped, because it causes permanent injury, but if some dude is just beating up someone else i cant legally go up and shoot him, or even take a bat to his face, thats excessive force
#160 - Okay... If you're gonna go that route... What if your…  [+] (11 new replies) 11/13/2014 on facebook posts +3
#163 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
depends on where you punched him, if its in the head that constitutes deadly force and was uncalled for, if it was in the stomach then you wont be charged because it wasnt negligent homicide, was just an act of god.
User avatar #199 - thegrayfox (11/13/2014) [-]
See, that's the problem. The law isn't adequate to enforce rules on such scenarios.

Because all humans are different, you can't know what kind of force is necessary to neutralize a threat, and it's completely different from fighting in a ring where, if you fuck up, you can just tap out. But in a street fight, if you manage to counter attack, and you fail to capitalize on that temporary advantage, the situation can reverse itself again to your disadvantage. So blows to the head/groin are almost always necessary, unless you're fighting a weakling who could get winded by a liver-shot.

As you can see, there are scenarios where you could go to prison, and it shouldn't paint a picture that you're some horrible criminal who shouldn't have friends that visit you.
#207 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
nah man, if a person is commiting deadly force you are allowed to use deadly force, if its just assault you cant use deadly force, deadly force is force to cause death or serious bodily injury(permanent body injury or major broken bones) so just assault doesnt cut it, however if there are 3 guys assaulting you then you are allowed to use deadly force. But the courts keep all this in mind, if the guy assaulting you dies then they try to see if you maliciously intended for him to die. and if they find out you did, ie "motherfucker get off me or ima kill you" then yeah you fucked up and are going to jail
#236 - thegrayfox (11/13/2014) [-]
You are wrong.

If someone pulls out a gun, says it's loaded, cocks the hammer and points it at your head... You are not allowed to retaliate with deadly force until he fires the first bullet.

In my country, even police officers are not allowed to shoot someone, unless the criminal fires first, regardless of how armed they are or what kind of verbal threat they say.

So legally, you could only retaliate with non-lethal force when someone comes at you with a gun, which can cause further cause accidental discharge, which can lead to even more death.

And you're wrong (at least in my country) as to what constitutes heavy injury. It doesn't have to be permanent injury, or any major broken bones. Any kind of fracture will do. Even if you manage to slightly fracture someone's rib, it constitutes heavy injury, even though it's a common injury, and in most cases, is not lethal.

You're grasping at straws really, if you think that splitting hairs in terms of what the law does and does not allow in terms of self-defense.

You get home, find out a dude is raping your 6 year old kid.
What? You're really gonna convince me, that you'd react by telling him: "Please sir, cease the vulgar and unlawful action that you are performing on my child, for I will be forced to call the police, and you will be in trouble".

And then he goes to court, gets 2 years in prison, gets out in a year and registers as a sex offender. Meanwhile your kid's mental stability is destroyed for the rest of his life.

You're telling me you wouldn't beat the shit out of the guy til he's crying for his life?
Pic related, dad caught him while he was raping his son.

In that particular case, the father was not charged, but he still did break the law. If he were to be charged, he'd be looking at prison time.
#246 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
to use deadly force you must see intent and action to follow through on those intentions, him saying hes gonna shoot or kill you or even pointing the gun at you shows his intent, him pulling the hammer back or again even pointing it at you shows action to follow through on his intentions, therefore it constitutes threat to life. Keep in mind im going by American Standards of self defense, if in your country you cant retaliate with deadly force unless he fires a bullet then i say you live in a fucked up country, noones life is worth more to you than your own, you should have the right to defend your life
User avatar #251 - thegrayfox (11/13/2014) [-]
Exactly.

I'm familiar with the stand-your-ground laws in the US.

Here (Serbia) you couldn't not retaliate with deadly force, as a civilian, EVEN if someone shoots you first.

I get a gun, shoot you in the leg. The only thing you can legally do is shoot me back in the leg. The laws are stupid, I know that. But that's how it is over here.
#255 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
also, keep in mind im not being serious with this comment, but im from america its my right to be a judgemental condescending cunt :p
#254 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
oh man, ima give you a thumb just because your countrys laws arent fair
User avatar #259 - thegrayfox (11/13/2014) [-]
It's okay man. You're a good cunt. : D
#244 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
Not true, in that situation a reasonable human would feel his life is threatened and deadly force is acceptable, it also depends on your scope of training, say if someone comes after you with a knife saying they gonna kill you then you dont have to let them get to close, since i have had armed security training i have to let them get closer to me than you do before i can shoot them, and special forces has to let them get right up on them before they can defend themselves. Rape is a permanent injury i can use deadly force against someone raping my kid, or anyone elses kid. And not a damn thing will happen to me. and no the father in that case did not break the law, his actions were legal self defense, he would have gotten off even if he had blown the dudes head off.
#245 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
in a rape situation i can use deadly force no matter who is being raped, because it causes permanent injury, but if some dude is just beating up someone else i cant legally go up and shoot him, or even take a bat to his face, thats excessive force
#157 - 1. False imprisonment. Do you think 100% of the people in …  [+] (13 new replies) 11/13/2014 on facebook posts +2
#158 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
yeah but thats not what im saying, im saying there is no reason to be in prison that is good, people who were falsly imprisioned were stupid to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, like being alone in the room with some drunk girl, even if you didnt touch her its still opening doors to get a rape charge, you gotta be smart about this stuff
User avatar #160 - thegrayfox (11/13/2014) [-]
Okay... If you're gonna go that route...

What if your girlfriend is being assaulted?
You try and defend her. Punch a guy, he falls over, breaks his skull open on the curb.
You go to prison.

Was that being stupid? Being at the wrong place at the wrong time sure.
But you didn't instigate the fight, you were defending someone else.
Could you pick up your girl and fun away Forest Gump style? I doubt it.
Leave the girl and run away? Disgusting.

Many laws don't cover self-defense properly.
In my country, you are not allowed to hurt your assailant while defending yourself.
So what do you do? Run away? What if you trip or get tired and the guy catches up to you? You're in no shape to defend yourself at that point, so you're dead.

I've trained a martial art for 7 years, I can tell you, unless you're fighting someone who is immensely weaker than you, there is no way to subdue them in 2 seconds like they do in the movies. You have to deal some damage.

So, you go to prison, because you defender yourself against an attacker.

The law doesn't cover everything.
#163 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
depends on where you punched him, if its in the head that constitutes deadly force and was uncalled for, if it was in the stomach then you wont be charged because it wasnt negligent homicide, was just an act of god.
User avatar #199 - thegrayfox (11/13/2014) [-]
See, that's the problem. The law isn't adequate to enforce rules on such scenarios.

Because all humans are different, you can't know what kind of force is necessary to neutralize a threat, and it's completely different from fighting in a ring where, if you fuck up, you can just tap out. But in a street fight, if you manage to counter attack, and you fail to capitalize on that temporary advantage, the situation can reverse itself again to your disadvantage. So blows to the head/groin are almost always necessary, unless you're fighting a weakling who could get winded by a liver-shot.

As you can see, there are scenarios where you could go to prison, and it shouldn't paint a picture that you're some horrible criminal who shouldn't have friends that visit you.
#207 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
nah man, if a person is commiting deadly force you are allowed to use deadly force, if its just assault you cant use deadly force, deadly force is force to cause death or serious bodily injury(permanent body injury or major broken bones) so just assault doesnt cut it, however if there are 3 guys assaulting you then you are allowed to use deadly force. But the courts keep all this in mind, if the guy assaulting you dies then they try to see if you maliciously intended for him to die. and if they find out you did, ie "motherfucker get off me or ima kill you" then yeah you fucked up and are going to jail
#236 - thegrayfox (11/13/2014) [-]
You are wrong.

If someone pulls out a gun, says it's loaded, cocks the hammer and points it at your head... You are not allowed to retaliate with deadly force until he fires the first bullet.

In my country, even police officers are not allowed to shoot someone, unless the criminal fires first, regardless of how armed they are or what kind of verbal threat they say.

So legally, you could only retaliate with non-lethal force when someone comes at you with a gun, which can cause further cause accidental discharge, which can lead to even more death.

And you're wrong (at least in my country) as to what constitutes heavy injury. It doesn't have to be permanent injury, or any major broken bones. Any kind of fracture will do. Even if you manage to slightly fracture someone's rib, it constitutes heavy injury, even though it's a common injury, and in most cases, is not lethal.

You're grasping at straws really, if you think that splitting hairs in terms of what the law does and does not allow in terms of self-defense.

You get home, find out a dude is raping your 6 year old kid.
What? You're really gonna convince me, that you'd react by telling him: "Please sir, cease the vulgar and unlawful action that you are performing on my child, for I will be forced to call the police, and you will be in trouble".

And then he goes to court, gets 2 years in prison, gets out in a year and registers as a sex offender. Meanwhile your kid's mental stability is destroyed for the rest of his life.

You're telling me you wouldn't beat the shit out of the guy til he's crying for his life?
Pic related, dad caught him while he was raping his son.

In that particular case, the father was not charged, but he still did break the law. If he were to be charged, he'd be looking at prison time.
#246 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
to use deadly force you must see intent and action to follow through on those intentions, him saying hes gonna shoot or kill you or even pointing the gun at you shows his intent, him pulling the hammer back or again even pointing it at you shows action to follow through on his intentions, therefore it constitutes threat to life. Keep in mind im going by American Standards of self defense, if in your country you cant retaliate with deadly force unless he fires a bullet then i say you live in a fucked up country, noones life is worth more to you than your own, you should have the right to defend your life
User avatar #251 - thegrayfox (11/13/2014) [-]
Exactly.

I'm familiar with the stand-your-ground laws in the US.

Here (Serbia) you couldn't not retaliate with deadly force, as a civilian, EVEN if someone shoots you first.

I get a gun, shoot you in the leg. The only thing you can legally do is shoot me back in the leg. The laws are stupid, I know that. But that's how it is over here.
#255 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
also, keep in mind im not being serious with this comment, but im from america its my right to be a judgemental condescending cunt :p
#254 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
oh man, ima give you a thumb just because your countrys laws arent fair
User avatar #259 - thegrayfox (11/13/2014) [-]
It's okay man. You're a good cunt. : D
#244 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
Not true, in that situation a reasonable human would feel his life is threatened and deadly force is acceptable, it also depends on your scope of training, say if someone comes after you with a knife saying they gonna kill you then you dont have to let them get to close, since i have had armed security training i have to let them get closer to me than you do before i can shoot them, and special forces has to let them get right up on them before they can defend themselves. Rape is a permanent injury i can use deadly force against someone raping my kid, or anyone elses kid. And not a damn thing will happen to me. and no the father in that case did not break the law, his actions were legal self defense, he would have gotten off even if he had blown the dudes head off.
#245 - karrotj (11/13/2014) [-]
in a rape situation i can use deadly force no matter who is being raped, because it causes permanent injury, but if some dude is just beating up someone else i cant legally go up and shoot him, or even take a bat to his face, thats excessive force
#2 - I really do hate some of the double-standards that exist in th…  [+] (14 new replies) 11/13/2014 on #MeninistTwitter Comp P2 +99
User avatar #32 - crispymcpee (11/14/2014) [-]
double-standards on the topic of double-standards...
#31 - Womens Study Major (11/14/2014) [-]
not going to lie but men are usually the ones pushing against the change...
Oh he talked about his feelings...? GAY
Oh bro you didn't get raped, that chick was totally hot even though you said no multiple times. When there are male rape victim articles on this site, a lot of comments are about being "jealous". Jealous of a fucking rape victim.

Honestly I think a lot of mens issues are going to need to be patched up by men. Raise your sons and tell them it's OKAY if they don't follow certain standards.... It's OKAY to want to be a stay at home dad (they're becoming more common).
also in part 1, ejaculation doesn't mean consent... consent means consent...
User avatar #26 - bothemastaofall (11/14/2014) [-]
that's cause we're better and hold ourselves to a higher standard
#22 - mrbobert (11/14/2014) [-]
take this
#12 - nopefarther (11/14/2014) [-]
Best thing to do is not to care.
User avatar #11 - llanox (11/14/2014) [-]
reminds me of a video with a very misleading title - "why rape is hilarious", I believe it was called
#28 - HAMMATIMEZ (11/14/2014) [-]
Every god damn time.
#6 - Womens Study Major (11/13/2014) [-]
Men came up with all the standards for each sex. Remember that.
#17 - andrakian (11/14/2014) [-]
That's actually not true at all. Men may have created gender standards in the ancient era or whatever, but they are kept in place by both sexes.

If a woman starts behaving in a "wrong way", chances are her female friends will comment and bicker about it much more than her male friends. You wouldn't believe how cruel and petty women actually are to each other, and that behavior is responsible by a huge part of gender roles.
#24 - superafromanxd (11/14/2014) [-]
i always say, a woman's greatest enemy is other women.
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#7 - Womens Study Major (11/13/2014) [-]
Because patriarchy!
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User avatar #8 - kievaughnb (02/18/2014) [-]
Her ass makes me wanna bury my nose in it and take a huge deep breath.
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DUDE, DUUUUUUDE!
DUDE, DUUUUUUDE!
#3 to #2 - theorangefox ONLINE (09/24/2013) [-]
HOW HAVE I NOT SEEN YOU ALL THESE YEARS!?
#4 to #3 - thegrayfox (09/24/2013) [-]
Stealth Camouflage.
#5 to #4 - theorangefox ONLINE (09/24/2013) [-]
I see, how cunning of you.

I can't believe I found another!
#6 to #5 - thegrayfox (09/24/2013) [-]
Let's band together, find the others and take over the world!
User avatar #7 to #6 - theorangefox ONLINE (09/24/2013) [-]
Oh god, that picture is awesome!

We must assemble the others, for Fox-kind!
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