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#16 - "by definition" its and irrational fear OR AVERSIO…  [+] (53 replies) 09/07/2016 on mods pls no ban -114
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#272 - tanuith (09/08/2016) [-]
Well the point is those being accused of islamophobia are usually not hate filled individuals but rather those worried about the safety of the country they live in.
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#266 - thevsamovies (09/08/2016) [-]
Don't try to reason with the bigoted fuckheads on fj
#253 - anon (09/08/2016) [-]
pretty sure what you got there is a new progressive definition. funny how all other phobias are strictly a fear.
#218 - anon (09/07/2016) [-]
Go back to flipping burgers, english major.
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#73 - hockeycrazysteve (09/07/2016) [-]
You know synonyms dont have to mean exacly the same thing right? hatred and fear are 2 very different things.
#61 - anon (09/07/2016) [-]
then that would make islamists everythingelsephobics...
#49 - arreatface (09/07/2016) [-]
he's right tho
#141 - tyrson (09/07/2016) [-]
I despise that white fuzz.
#216 - arreatface (09/07/2016) [-]
I love it
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#45 - Denver (09/07/2016) [-]
I see the point you are trying to make, but you are getting "an irrational fear or aversion" mixed up with "an aversion or irrational fear".

Also, synonyms are words with very similar meanings, but not identical. These words are often results of the effect of the previous words (A phobia can induce fear, dread, horror, hatred etc.) but not vice versa. There is no word I know of for words with identical meanings (twelve/dozen, elevator/lift, canine/lupine etc.)
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#17 - leonhardt (09/07/2016) [-]
The keyword being "IRRATIONAL"
Being afraid of violent subhuman sandniggers is absolutely rational.
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#251 - nigeltheoutlaw (09/08/2016) [-]
Any time anybody says "subhuman" or "nigger" unironically, their opinion is automatically invalid.
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#275 - leonhardt (09/08/2016) [-]
Doesn't look like people agree with you.
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#277 - nigeltheoutlaw (09/08/2016) [-]
That's fine. Popular sentiment doesn't make what you say more valid, and it never has.
#284 - anon (09/08/2016) [-]
you act like a smug pretentious faggot a lot.

please stop
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#287 - nigeltheoutlaw (09/08/2016) [-]
Oh sorry, I'll try to match the level of discourse most of FJ engages in.

>ahahaha what a fucking NIGGER nigger nigger NIGGER nigger black people negro niggers it's a joke because I'm saying a bad word!
>oh you disagreed with me so UR A FUCKING LIBTARD CUCK YOU FUCKING CUCK HOPE TYRONE DOESN"T FUCK YOUR MOM
>whoa man, I know I advocated for the genocide of all Muslims, but I have to say that you saying white people's cooking is bland was really racist and triggered me, so if you could be more considerate and stop making jokes I would appreciate it.

I think I got my bases covered now, hope you're happy anon.
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#282 - leonhardt (09/08/2016) [-]
Whatever you say, fam.
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#135 - zeunfunnyguy (09/07/2016) [-]
disclaimer: these are not opinions from my side wheither people hate islam or not.
just trying to understand the words.


irrational is only in one of the synonyms. in most others ( fear, dread, horror, terror, dislike, hatred, loathing, detestation, distaste, aversion, antipathy, revulsion, repulsion) there's no word "irrational" in them.

so irrational fear counts as phobia, but so does dislike or hatred.

so technically someone who dislikes islam could be defined as an islamophobe

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#119 - mrsexmuffins (09/07/2016) [-]
Wew lad
#78 - ilosearguments (09/07/2016) [-]
Do you not know what or means?
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#72 - furiousmarshmellow (09/07/2016) [-]
On an unrelated note, why is "irrational" part of the definition? Surely atomosophobia atomic explosions , carcinophobia cancer , harpaxophobia being robbed , taphephobia being buried alive , or even thanatophobia dying are all very rational fears.

I get it also defines it as extreme fear, but nearly half of all phobias are either completely rational or rational in certain normal ways.
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#237 - teddybearlove (09/08/2016) [-]
I have atomosophobia. I didn't realize it until this year when I had some really gruesome dreams about nuclear fallout.
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#283 - leonhardt (09/08/2016) [-]
Can you play fallout 4?
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#305 - teddybearlove (09/08/2016) [-]
Yeah, I can understand a video game isn't going to hurt me. But when it comes to real life I imagine nuclear explosions going off every day. So I make sure I'm living the best I can so that when(if) it does happen I'll be myself when I die. Dying is also a thing that I'm not a fan of. But that's a whole 'nother kind of thought process.
#209 - archiethesailor (09/07/2016) [-]
There are also hydrophobic substances, things that don't mix with water. Has nothing to do with rationality.
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#88 - ampharosrules (09/07/2016) [-]
If you're worried that you could get cancer or be nuked, then that's normal. If you spend all of your money to build a nuclear bunker purely out of fear of being bombed (as opposed to a hobby) or avoid anything said to lead to cancer at all costs, all the while having panic attacks from the constant worrying about getting cancer or being nuked, then that's a phobia.

Phobias have nothing to do with WHAT you fear; it's HOW you fear them. That's where the irrationality comes in.
#111 - anon (09/07/2016) [-]
And if you harass a Muslim sitting on a bus because you're so scared of Islam, that's a phobia.
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#116 - ampharosrules (09/07/2016) [-]
Apologies, I misread exactly what you said. If you're screaming at people because you're afraid of their beliefs, then yes I would say that's a phobia. This is because that's a relatively irrational response to a danger that isn't necessarily apparent or at least hasn't presented itself yet.
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#114 - ampharosrules (09/07/2016) [-]
That's being an asshole. But that's also not quite what I was discussing. And also still not a phobia really. That's still more intolerance than a phobia. It's like saying someone who uses "gay" as an insult is homophobic. It's not really an accurate term for what's really homo-intolerance, but it's accepted as the term for it.
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#87 - checkmark (09/07/2016) [-]
Perhaps they mean fearing it to ridiculous levels? Fearing atomic bombs is normal, but being afraid to the point where you stay in a bunker for your whole life is irrational.
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#86 - royaldingo (09/07/2016) [-]
You have to mind the circumstance and the definition of 'fear'.

I quote the DSM-V, a manual for psychiatric diagnoses:
"A person who has a specific phobia disorder experiences significant and persistent fear when in the presence of, or anticipating the presence of, the object of fear, which may be an object, place or situation.

The criteria for a specific phobia are:
- Marked and out of proportion fear within an environmental or situational context to the presence or anticipation of a specific object or situation
- Exposure to the phobic stimulus provokes an immediate anxiety response, which may take the form of a situationally bound or situationally predisposed panic attack.
- The person recognizes that the fear is out of proportion.
- The phobic situation(s) is avoided or else is endured with intense anxiety or distress.

The avoidance, anxious anticipation or distress in the feared situation(s) interferes significantly with the person's normal routine, occupational (or academic) functioning, or social activities or relationships, or there is marked distress about having the phobia."

The new DSM-5 criteria states that the symptoms for all ages must have a duration of at least 6 months.
#94 - furiousmarshmellow (09/07/2016) [-]
>>#88, >>#87,
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#93 - royaldingo (09/07/2016) [-]
So while those phobias you spoke of surely occur, they should be pretty rare because
it is hard do have fear out of proportion if the fear itself is the worst thing happening to you (i.e. annihilation in all shapes and colors).

But as I said, the circumstances and definition of fear are important:
Definition:
If you live your whole life in fear of imminent death and have panic attacks when somebody talks about dying you might have thanatophobia.

If you just feel a little bit uneasy while thinking about it youre probably fine.

Circumstance:
If you live in a peaceful country that is not at war with any of the nuclear nations you would probably have atomosophobia. -If- you show symptoms for longer than 6 months that impede your everyday life.

If you are at war with russia or the us and live in the capital of your country your fear would be completely rational.
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#56 - aquaekk (09/07/2016) [-]
Yes, but it says 'extreme OR irrational', so 'extreme' would come under this.
#48 - anon (09/07/2016) [-]
True
#215 - anon (09/07/2016) [-]
I would ask as a blissfully unaware anon "what the fuck is going on in palestine between the jews and muslims" but i fear the shit storm this might cause.
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#261 - renespar (09/08/2016) [-]
well, I'll do my best essentially to explain, after WWII in the wake of the Holocaust, it was basically decided that jewish people would be given land in Palestine, since it was traditionally their homeland (whether you want to argue that or not isn't the point, this was just what the decision was based on) and a large amount of the Palestinians were relocated to make room for the jewish people moving in, the issue was Palestinians that weren't given any input on the matter and since we gave the Israeli side our support and also training and weapons, the Israeli feel that since religiously that entire nation should be theirs, they've proven to be rather... inhospitable to their neighbors, to put it lightly, and they justify bombing residential areas by saying that a group Israel consider a terrorist group (HAMAS) use schools and the like to hide weapons. Palestinians occasionally get pushed too far and will retaliate with the munitions equivalent of throwing bricks in defiance, which results in Israel's military having a massive freak out, pretend they're at risk and proceed to slaughter large numbers of supposed Palestinian "terrorists" further increasing tensions, and after every attack Israel tends to claim more of the Palestinian territory, until we've gotten to this point where Palestinians are almost refugees in their own country.
#303 - anon (09/08/2016) [-]
thanx for the rundown. I recall hearing about that situation before and how the media was making israel out to be the good guy, but wasn't sure if it was from one of fj's /pol/ posts. it sounds fucked up.
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#304 - renespar (09/08/2016) [-]
it's slightly more nuanced than what the media or /pol/ will tell you, I think the most accurate version you will get will be from groups like Secular Talk. Since as you said, the media portrays Palestinians as the aggressors while /pol/ talks how it's part of some literal full on Palestinian genocide
#22 - anon (09/07/2016) [-]
The irrationality comes from the statistically tiny likelihood of it occuring to you.

I could be terrified of sharks which is fine when im alone in the sea bleeding. Less so if I'm stood in an aquarium shitting my pants.

The chance of you actually being affected by Islamic extremism is still tiny.
#23 - jacg (09/07/2016) [-]
Tell that to Europe...
#24 - anon (09/07/2016) [-]
So taking the countries with worst attacks of 2016, as of July: France, Germany, Belgium.
Total deaths: 129
Total Injuries: 548

Let's round it generously up to 10000 for shits and giggles.

Total Population: 157,850,000

So the chance of being injured or killed by Islamic extremism is, with our inflated number, is 6.3 x 10^-5 .

Also known as 'statistically insignificant.' You're more likely to injur yourself from failing at walking and just tripping. But yeah, there's nothing 'irrational' at obsessively being in pant-shitting fear of terrorism.
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#38 - wdparsell (09/07/2016) [-]
if you actually account every murder and terrorist attack, like you should, you get very different numbers. www.thereligionofpeace.com

The fact is, while still not likely to die from terrorist attack, the terrorist attacks still happen. Fearing a religion of suicide bombings and honor killings is not irrational.
#54 - dyelfagget (09/07/2016) [-]
I would trust that website on the topic of Muslims about has well as I would trust the Daily Stormer about Jewish people.
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#57 - wdparsell (09/07/2016) [-]
they literally have sources for all the numbers they have with dates and short descriptions.
#59 - dyelfagget (09/07/2016) [-]
I understand that. But looking at the sources for even just one of the first attacks they list about a bombing in Thailand. The only time the word Muslim is even listed in the source material is in reference to the victim of the attack. The perpatrators were militant separatists and were not religiously motivated. I feel like a site that starts off by telling you Muslims bad is probably going to put a slant. It's like visiting MSNBC and not expecting a liberal bias.
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#32 - frutus (09/07/2016) [-]
You are mathematically correct (I assume, I didn't check it out)
But you are forgetting something important.
The risk/chance of it happening has dramatically increased with an increased islamic population. That is the problem. That's why it's rational to be afraid of muslims.

Also they're very violent by culture, their definition of honor is very different from ours, which people tend to forget.
#26 - anon (09/07/2016) [-]
You're only counting spree killings and premeditated terrorist attacks and ignoring the massively rising theft, assault and sexual assault rates in these countries. You're working with only one angle of a complex matter, made worse by them largely refusing to release crime rates anymore. No one does that if the numbers are getting lower.

It's irrational to fear snakes in ireland. It's not irrational to get scared when you're getting predictions of having Somalia's rape rate within thirty years.
#27 - anon (09/07/2016) [-]
I based it on available numbers, inflated to give benefit of the doubt.

If you'd like to present a factually-based counter then I welcome it.

Let's be generous and give 1% as the threshold for statistical significance. You need to prove 1.5 million people in those 3 countries directly affected by crime caused specifically by Islamic extremism.
#30 - dwarfinhourglass (09/07/2016) [-]
Also the chance of getting kilked/injured or assaulted is rising for lets say another thing that would do the same (car craches, animal attacks and so one). Also you alone cant stop these things happening unlike these other things that have fairly stable yearly stats.

Socomparing that being afraid of a mass bombing in public crouded place in centeral europe is way more rational (because thosevare the targets) or a woman walking alone in sweden at night than grtting hit by a car. Because getting hit by a car you your self can predict and possibly dodge but you cant predict acts of terror.

Sorry for bad english. Walking doge and typin on phone with one hand. Also wrong image and cant change it.
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#81 - thegamepixel (09/07/2016) [-]
But this is an animal attack.
#43 - dwarfinhourglass (09/07/2016) [-]
Wow that was badly writte...
#28 - anon (09/07/2016) [-]
You based it on barely relevant stats of a specific issue caused by this larger one, then just spitballed another one out to actually use. They're suddenly refusing to release the stats on how many people are being hurt by this, after years of diligent record keeping.

You have all the reasons to be scared when the people who are supposed to be protecting you are obviously trying to cover for how bad things are. If it wasn't, they'd release them and prove you right, and they know they can't. The fact that your numbers don't exist is the reason people are scared.
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#20 - emopandaxox (09/07/2016) [-]
I mean as long as that suit protects him better then a cloth one and is advanced like the batman beyond suit that could work
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#24 - spunkmckullins (08/25/2016) [-]
Not really. It's fun tbh.
#13 - and even further into this, what if two rubies fused to make a…  [+] (2 replies) 08/22/2016 on The horror 0
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#14 - professorrowan (08/22/2016) [-]
it's still just a ruby so they would make a garnet but with two rubies it would be a more aggressive garnet, but if ruby and sapphire fused first then another ruby fused with them it would probably make a different gem.
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#15 - englishwitch (08/22/2016) [-]
Probably. Although now I have the mental image of a Garnet as big and buff as Jasper. Always an entertaining image.

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