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#128 - you're* 05/30/2015 on Ayy Lmao Comrade 0
#127 - no your wrong, Marxism is a form of anarchy. Communism would n…  [+] (1 new reply) 05/30/2015 on Ayy Lmao Comrade 0
#128 - thebigbadbeest (05/30/2015) [-]
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#69 - communism is not a form of government its actually a type of anarchy  [+] (3 new replies) 05/30/2015 on Ayy Lmao Comrade -3
#71 - ainise (05/30/2015) [-]
What? No it's not. It's the exact OPPOSITE of an Anarchy. You literally couldn't be any further from what the definition by calling it an Anarchy.

Communism, as developed my Marx(which was in the past called "Marxism") is honestly a system of Slavery, with a different name. You own nothing, the government literally owns everything. Social classes are dictated by the government, income is dictated by the government. etc.

NOW, that being said, there IS a form of anarchism, called "Anarchist Communism" which does exist, but this isn't generally what people are talking about when they say Communism - they usually mean Marxism.

However, Anarchist Communism is actually just..incorrect, and misunderstands what "government" actually means at best, or trusts in humanity too much at worst. It's an inane theory that would never work in actuality, like all anarchist theories I've read, unless everyone involved is a complete fucking saint. It's so easy to exploit and so easy to conquer, I honestly can't imagine anyone who knows anything about politics to think Anarchy could work on its own.

The only place anarchy works is in societies too small to require government, and /even then/ often opts for some form of government(even if it is a single chief in a small group).
#127 - thebigbadbeest (05/30/2015) [-]
no your wrong, Marxism is a form of anarchy. Communism would never have a state. Have you ever even read Marx? He literally says that communism would be a stateless society in the Communist manifesto.
#128 - thebigbadbeest (05/30/2015) [-]
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#68 - he definitely didn't say it in the Communist Manifesto and tha…  [+] (2 new replies) 05/30/2015 on Ayy Lmao Comrade +1
User avatar #73 - angelious (05/30/2015) [-]
cant find anything solid.


he did talk about man realizing somethingsomethingsomething(twas a wall of text in small font with lots of fancy english words...) and the merits of working and bettering oneself. and something about the "need for self enjoyment loses its egoistical value"
User avatar #70 - angelious (05/30/2015) [-]
"human development"

aka change.


im reading through a few articles. give me a second.
#65 - I dont think he ever said that  [+] (4 new replies) 05/30/2015 on Ayy Lmao Comrade 0
User avatar #66 - angelious (05/30/2015) [-]
compelling argument.
#68 - thebigbadbeest (05/30/2015) [-]
he definitely didn't say it in the Communist Manifesto and that type of thought is contradictory to most of his writing. He actually Communism would happen naturally as the next step of human development. Like the transition from feudalism to capitalism.
User avatar #73 - angelious (05/30/2015) [-]
cant find anything solid.


he did talk about man realizing somethingsomethingsomething(twas a wall of text in small font with lots of fancy english words...) and the merits of working and bettering oneself. and something about the "need for self enjoyment loses its egoistical value"
User avatar #70 - angelious (05/30/2015) [-]
"human development"

aka change.


im reading through a few articles. give me a second.
#63 - when did marx say that?  [+] (12 new replies) 05/30/2015 on Ayy Lmao Comrade +1
User avatar #64 - angelious (05/30/2015) [-]
not sure.


my history teacher talked about it.when we were going over the rise of dictatorships in europe as the aftermath of ww1.
#74 - ainise (05/30/2015) [-]
I believe you're mixing the words "Communism" and "Command Economic Systems". Either that, or your history teacher was, because that is the exact opposite as something Marx would say, and MOST DEFINITELY isn't in his teachings.

Now, Many people who have given serious thought about Command Economic Systems(That is, economic systems that are dictated from the government) have said (paraphrasing) that in a time where everything is plentiful and people aren't required to work to keep the world moving, we may eventually see a time where a Command Economic System will be more heavily than is currently being used. Most people who believe in a Utopian society want a Command Economic System handled by computers, rather than the relatively heavy use of capitalism we have in America, but I digress.

Someones mixing up names, here. I can't imagine Marx ever saying something like that.
User avatar #76 - angelious (05/30/2015) [-]
nope. i was quoting from new york universitys study on marx vision of communism. and i honestly doubt any history teacher in my country would do that sort of mistake.


and you yourself actually did say something that proved the point somewhat "He actually Communism would happen naturally as the next step of human developmen"



aka humanity would need to change.


but finding direct quotes from marx is annoying. and most of his quotes that are listed and readily available are more indirect in approach to things.
#78 - ainise (05/30/2015) [-]
He thinks that, like leaving feudalism, communism is the next step, not that humanity would, at its core, need to change - but rather humanity at its core WOULD change. At least that's my understanding of it.
User avatar #79 - angelious (05/30/2015) [-]
those two are the same thing.


would and should. if you went back in time to middle ages where feudalism was a thing and tried to sell the ideal of constitutional republic as form of goverment you would get your head chopped. the change needed for populace to make the change from feudalism to more modern ideals of goverment would only happen later when these ideals become more wide spread and the idea that king is appointed by god to be the ruler of the country would change.
#83 - ainise (05/30/2015) [-]
They're not the same thing. One says that we /need/ a change to make it work. The other says the system would change people. NOT the same, but I digress, it's just semantics at this point.

User avatar #84 - angelious (05/30/2015) [-]
agreed. philosophical talk would only end up as war of view points..


and i must concede this as i cannot find proof of my claim anywhere. outside of the vague referrences that i listed above.
#65 - thebigbadbeest (05/30/2015) [-]
I dont think he ever said that
User avatar #66 - angelious (05/30/2015) [-]
compelling argument.
#68 - thebigbadbeest (05/30/2015) [-]
he definitely didn't say it in the Communist Manifesto and that type of thought is contradictory to most of his writing. He actually Communism would happen naturally as the next step of human development. Like the transition from feudalism to capitalism.
User avatar #73 - angelious (05/30/2015) [-]
cant find anything solid.


he did talk about man realizing somethingsomethingsomething(twas a wall of text in small font with lots of fancy english words...) and the merits of working and bettering oneself. and something about the "need for self enjoyment loses its egoistical value"
User avatar #70 - angelious (05/30/2015) [-]
"human development"

aka change.


im reading through a few articles. give me a second.
#125 - how do you not get that? did you read the text?  [+] (1 new reply) 05/30/2015 on Imgur 0
#126 - anon (05/30/2015) [-]
I did.

And I see no explanation as to why this insignificant city has the nation's highest taxi fares...
#86 - also i did the German imperial flag  [+] (1 new reply) 05/29/2015 on Imgur 0
User avatar #110 - germanblood (05/29/2015) [-]
What?
#85 - i don't know. i was just pointing out that the taxi ride would…  [+] (3 new replies) 05/29/2015 on Imgur 0
User avatar #109 - germanblood (05/29/2015) [-]
What?
#125 - thebigbadbeest (05/30/2015) [-]
how do you not get that? did you read the text?
#126 - anon (05/30/2015) [-]
I did.

And I see no explanation as to why this insignificant city has the nation's highest taxi fares...
#84 - Atlanta isn't really much like the rest of the south.  [+] (1 new reply) 05/29/2015 on Imgur +1
User avatar #99 - clannadqs (05/29/2015) [-]
Basically this. Atlanta and metro atlanta is nothing like what people think the south is. You are alienated pretty damn hard if you have a southern accent around Atlanta.
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