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#67 - but why like the uchiha's they were assholes and just killed e…  [+] (1 new reply) 02/18/2015 on Anime Facts Compilation Part 7 0
User avatar #110 - lawlight (02/18/2015) [-]
it's coup d'├ętat
#2541 - whats up dude!!!  [+] (1 new reply) 02/18/2015 on Top 3 favorite FJers? +1
User avatar #2543 - creepydudewatching (02/18/2015) [-]
Nothing much man; got the apprenticeship I've always wanted and I'm finally doing great
How about you man? How's things?
#255 - i just bought a shirt with that design on it heres the link: 02/17/2015 on Would you go on a date with... 0
#4 - calm down obito 02/17/2015 on dw he a pussy +1
#32 - i personally liked deidara in the anime just saying 02/17/2015 on step up niggy +1
#196 - i see! haha sorry, the first person to really acknowledge him … 02/17/2015 on Anime Facts Compilation Part 6 0
#194 - nooo, shikamaru stated that he'd follow naruto anywhere and in…  [+] (1 new reply) 02/17/2015 on Anime Facts Compilation Part 6 0
#195 - bluemagebrilly (02/17/2015) [-]
No, no, I meant back when they were kids. Not later on.
#193 - dude its all good im down for anything, just i have so much ti…  [+] (4 new replies) 02/17/2015 on Anime Facts Compilation Part 6 0
User avatar #208 - malleusdeus (02/19/2015) [-]
Got time on your hands, huh? Well you've picked a good time to get into anime. lol Seriously I think you'll find your time well spent watching it. So, what ya studying?
User avatar #209 - thatonetyler (02/20/2015) [-]
business administration!
#210 - malleusdeus (02/20/2015) [-]
WONDERFUL! With your help FJ can conquer the business world, then nothing can stop us!

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Uhum....Rather, congrats, that's a great career choice with a lot of potential.
User avatar #211 - thatonetyler (02/22/2015) [-]
haha well i only went into since my family owns businesses and im hoping to run them when my dad decides to retire or move on to a different hobby
#192 - true that i actually just started watching fairy tale, one pie… 02/17/2015 on Anime Facts Compilation Part 6 0
#191 - well the new movie is going to show how it all happened so im … 02/17/2015 on Anime Facts Compilation Part 6 0
#157 - i like the way you think!! sakura was a good character and all…  [+] (2 new replies) 02/16/2015 on Anime Facts Compilation Part 6 0
#160 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
They definitely should have done more, I agree. But it's silly to say they didn't have anything, you know?

Naruto is just like... the icon of "wasted potential." Thankfully the show has fans for that, but it still would have been nice to see the show in the hands of someone like... like Oda, who planned everything in One Piece ahead of time rather than making it up on the spot.
User avatar #192 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
true that i actually just started watching fairy tale, one piece and death note
#151 - true then you got to think about sasuke its just one big clust…  [+] (1 new reply) 02/16/2015 on Anime Facts Compilation Part 6 0
User avatar #155 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
That's why I hate SasuSaku more than NaruHina because:
>Sasuke was portrayed as emotionless and incapable of compassion or love throughout 90% of the anime
>He's tried to kill Sakura many times so why would he suddenly fall in love with her?
>In addition to trying to kill her, abandoning her many times and treating her like shit, how could Sakura still love him?
>In parts of the manga she was actually shown almost falling for Naruto, if her love for Sasuke wavered then did she truly love him?
>Sasuke had no interest in love shown with both Sakura and Karin, what changed?

It honestly makes no sense and it's completely understandable the majority of the fans would be mad
#150 - true that, but now hes continuing the series so after the naru…  [+] (6 new replies) 02/16/2015 on Anime Facts Compilation Part 6 0
User avatar #153 - malleusdeus (02/16/2015) [-]
I originally suspected he was going to do that, hadn't followed the updates close enough to know it was confirmed. I'm actually glad. I always thought Naruto had a lot of potential and was just held back by a few bad choices. So to see it get a continuation with fresh characters and the like. Yeah, I'm game for that.

Oh, also for anime movies...sorry to keep spamming recommends to you. Though Sword of The Stranger. If you like Samurai stuff you really owe it to yourself. Also it's like...2 hours? So, I'd say make time for it.
User avatar #193 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
dude its all good im down for anything, just i have so much time on my hand since all my buddies go to college elsewhere, and i go to community college so other than work, and the gym i got nothing to do, also yeah im pretty sure if the new series goes well he might stick with naruto or just make a new spin off on his son
User avatar #208 - malleusdeus (02/19/2015) [-]
Got time on your hands, huh? Well you've picked a good time to get into anime. lol Seriously I think you'll find your time well spent watching it. So, what ya studying?
User avatar #209 - thatonetyler (02/20/2015) [-]
business administration!
#210 - malleusdeus (02/20/2015) [-]
WONDERFUL! With your help FJ can conquer the business world, then nothing can stop us!

.....

Uhum....Rather, congrats, that's a great career choice with a lot of potential.
User avatar #211 - thatonetyler (02/22/2015) [-]
haha well i only went into since my family owns businesses and im hoping to run them when my dad decides to retire or move on to a different hobby
#144 - i see yeah they should have developed it a tad more, like had …  [+] (3 new replies) 02/16/2015 on Anime Facts Compilation Part 6 0
User avatar #145 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I agree and yeah thats true, I can see how Naruto fell in love but it just seems a little far fetched, I don't mind NaruHina but I just think Sakura would've fit better.
User avatar #151 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
true then you got to think about sasuke its just one big cluster fuck, the guy who created it should have added a few filler episodes with a more romantic touch to them so you can see why the characters did what they did and fell for whoever they are with
User avatar #155 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
That's why I hate SasuSaku more than NaruHina because:
>Sasuke was portrayed as emotionless and incapable of compassion or love throughout 90% of the anime
>He's tried to kill Sakura many times so why would he suddenly fall in love with her?
>In addition to trying to kill her, abandoning her many times and treating her like shit, how could Sakura still love him?
>In parts of the manga she was actually shown almost falling for Naruto, if her love for Sasuke wavered then did she truly love him?
>Sasuke had no interest in love shown with both Sakura and Karin, what changed?

It honestly makes no sense and it's completely understandable the majority of the fans would be mad
#138 - also is fairy tale any good?  [+] (11 new replies) 02/16/2015 on Anime Facts Compilation Part 6 0
#220 - theaccelerator (02/27/2015) [-]
Fairytails 1 of my davorites b4 they ruined new season
#154 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
Sorry to interrupt, but I'm throwing my two cents in.

Fairy Tail starts pretty good, though I only read the manga, and has a good concept but ... It does get pretty 'meh' after awhile. One of those shows where they keep having speeches about friendship and power. How they can give up or this or this and then the bad guy is surprised and gets punched, then suddenly loses.

The latest manga chapters are also complete crap, but that's just my personal taste.

I'd say not to bother, personally, unless you don't mind the show turning really bad after awhile.
User avatar #221 - theaccelerator (02/27/2015) [-]
It goes 2 shit after the games b4 tht its good
#148 - malleusdeus (02/16/2015) [-]
I've followed more of the Fairy Tail manga than the anime, though yeah I enjoy it. Personally, I'd say Bleach or Naruto is better. Though it's really good.

As for what you should watch next, I'd say check out Death Note. It's not very long, and is very good.

As for Naruto's ending. Well, to be honest I sort of lost hope for Kishimoto managing to bring a good ending to Naruto. I was very pleasantly surprised. I thought that was just about as strong and good an ending as Naruto could have possibly had under the circumstances.


User avatar #150 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
true that, but now hes continuing the series so after the naruto movie: bortuo or whaterver it is called there with be 3 more season of naruto made
User avatar #153 - malleusdeus (02/16/2015) [-]
I originally suspected he was going to do that, hadn't followed the updates close enough to know it was confirmed. I'm actually glad. I always thought Naruto had a lot of potential and was just held back by a few bad choices. So to see it get a continuation with fresh characters and the like. Yeah, I'm game for that.

Oh, also for anime movies...sorry to keep spamming recommends to you. Though Sword of The Stranger. If you like Samurai stuff you really owe it to yourself. Also it's like...2 hours? So, I'd say make time for it.
User avatar #193 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
dude its all good im down for anything, just i have so much time on my hand since all my buddies go to college elsewhere, and i go to community college so other than work, and the gym i got nothing to do, also yeah im pretty sure if the new series goes well he might stick with naruto or just make a new spin off on his son
User avatar #208 - malleusdeus (02/19/2015) [-]
Got time on your hands, huh? Well you've picked a good time to get into anime. lol Seriously I think you'll find your time well spent watching it. So, what ya studying?
User avatar #209 - thatonetyler (02/20/2015) [-]
business administration!
#210 - malleusdeus (02/20/2015) [-]
WONDERFUL! With your help FJ can conquer the business world, then nothing can stop us!

.....

Uhum....Rather, congrats, that's a great career choice with a lot of potential.
User avatar #211 - thatonetyler (02/22/2015) [-]
haha well i only went into since my family owns businesses and im hoping to run them when my dad decides to retire or move on to a different hobby
#135 - theres so many, this is hard for me me haha, but i think i mig… 02/16/2015 on Anime Facts Compilation Part 6 0
#133 - WHYY!!!?? i wanted naruto and hinata to get together because s…  [+] (26 new replies) 02/16/2015 on Anime Facts Compilation Part 6 0
User avatar #139 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I really don't like Hinata as a character, she had so much potential but she ended up being there just for Naruto, the only time she was ever shown was for Naruto's purpose, she's soulless and without personality. Sakura, although I don't particularly like her, actually has a character, she's strong and has a life outside of supporting Naruto. I don't see how Naruto, after loving Sakura since he was around the age of 8 (8/9 years) could suddenly fall in love with Hinata who he barely noticed.
#152 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
Sakura mentioned. Swell with uselessness.

I don't really understand what you mean by Sakura having character or being strong. She didn't really do anything but whine and complain for 90% of the first half of the show. She was just there to be there, just like you're accusing Hinata of. Her 'life' was just Sasuke this, Sasuke that, up until the middle of the Chuunin exam where she actually did something.

But that fell off, along with many other plot devices, and she became useless again. Up until the fight with Sasori where she acted as someone's puppet rather than actually showing she got strong herself. Only thing she does is break a few puppets and rocks for the rest of Shippuden. Only 'good' thing she did was try to kill Sasuke, but she failed that too and it was dumb of her to try and do that alone anyways.

Anywho, I'd blame Kishi's writing style after the Shippuden started for how you feel about Hinata being a "souless" character. Most of the side characters were kind of pushed to the side after that. It was all about Naruto, Sasuke, and the super powerful characters. The rest were just kind of fodder and only appeared to do anything when they needed to.

Another thing you mentioned is how Naruto 'loved' Sakura, but he didn't. Just wanted attention from her and found her attractive, for some reason, when he was 12. She was super abusive, but he was needy for a friend at that point. Her staying as his 'target of affection' was just Kishi not knowing what to do with that.

Plus, it's not like Hinata / Naruto didn't have that whole thing where he stuck up for her against Neji and basically only won against the guy because of how much he wanted to prove to Neji that he, and Hinata by proxy, could beat a 'genius.' The plot device was dropped after that, as said before, but it did happen.

Plus Hinata appeared with Naruto twice in Shippuden and supported him when he really needed it. Considering his character, it seems fine to me that it stuck to him more than Sakura punching him on the head.

Anywho... I'd say just blame Kishi.
User avatar #164 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
Like I said before, I don't actually like Sakura but I prefer her to Hinata.

When I say character I mean she existed outside of Naruto and Sasuke after the first part of the anime, she became a singular character in shippuden.

She was definitely useless for the majority of the anime although towards the end and in the shinobi war I can't disagree she wasn't useful, she is only second to Tsunade as a medic ninja and is one of the only strong female ninja (For some reason Kishi doesn't create many strong female shinobi).

I do believe Naruto genuinely loved Sakura but to begin with only "loved her" because she liked Sasuke and like you said found her attractive and wanted her attention. I said from the age of 8 because they were all friends at that point, he started liking Sakura around the same time she liked Sasuke which is shown in an episode when they were both quite young. It could be just as easily said Naruto didn't love Hinata as shown in the The Last, Sakura is shown pushing the pair together saying to Naruto things like "You never really loved me, you just liked me because Sasuke liked me", at one point Hinata even questions why Sakura is helping her so much when she had no such reason. However I do believe towards the end of the movie, Naruto genuinely loved Hinata, I just think the transition was poorly written.

I do believe Hinata & Naruto have had their moments like you said but he also stuck up for Sakura against Ino during the chunnin exams which is the only reason Sakura beat Ino, because of Naruto's support from the side lines.

Sakura tried to save Naruto at times like when he started transforming into the 9 tails and managed a few tailed cloak, Sakura ran to stop him but yet again she was useless and just got hurt.

Hinata was much more effective and better at supporting Naruto, I can't deny that.

Lastly, I believe Sakura fitted the mould for Naruto's gf/wife better, she has many characteristics similar to Kushina, Minato even stated Sakura reminded him of Kushina.

Kishi's writing really went down hill, the only reason I believe all that above is down to the way he put things across but after all it's his manga and what he says goes.
#165 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
I prefer useful characters, even if they don't show up too often. <(' '<)

She was the only 'singular' character because she was in their team. If it was anyone else, they would have got the same thing. That's practically the reason she got to be Tsunade's apprentice over Hinata or Tenten who had more potential with it. She knew Naruto, and that's all that mattered.

That was just his thing, he forgot about all of the side characters he made, especially the female ones. Like Anko and Tenten.

They weren't friends, you know? Sakura hated the kid because of her parents and because of her obsession with Sasuke. They were never really "Friends" up until the Wave Arc. Sakura just found Naruto really annoying up until then. I haven't seen the movie, but honestly I'd take what that says with a grain of salt in regards to how Naruto and Sakura were back then. Kishi has forgotten his roots.

Sakura beating Ino with Naurto's support is a bit of a stretch, don't you think? I mean, it was an aspect, but that 'Inner Sakura' thing, which was randomly dropped as well, is the real reason she won. And he didn't go punch Ino in the face for tying with Sakura, either.

You mean when he went 4 tails? I don't really know if that counts as anything. <(' '<) She did just get smacked around. Could have tried to grab him with a tree or something... I dunno.

I think Sakura would have been great support if she could learn how to do something other than smack him in the back of the head.

I completely disagree. Naruto needed someone to offset his loudness, not match him. Someone who could help him settle down and think instead of rushing off ahead. If Sakura was going to be his wife, they'd just yell a lot and Sakura would end up punching Naruto. Abusive relationships aren't good, no matter how much anime tries to play it off.

And Kushina was an awful character anyways, way too angry and abusive just like Sakura. That character lost a lot of points for me when I found out she practically tortured Kyuubi with the chains that made up her seal. Demon or not, that's not cool, especially when the fox had already been tortured by Madara/Hashirama/Mito.

I do agree his writing went down hill and I think it's because he just kind of forgot what he was trying to make at first. It was about 'Ninja' at first, but then it was about the Sage and demons. Originally, the Ichibi and Kyuubi had no connection to each other, besides both being demons sealed inside children.

That's why the Ichibi is so different from the rest, since he was made before the idea of them being connected was put into play. Kyuubi is just based off a Kitsune. There was a lot of wasted potential, more or less.
User avatar #169 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I sometimes do haha c:

That's true. Also Sakura took the easy option by becoming the apprentice of the only available sannin after Naruto had took off with Jiraiya and Sasuke with Orochimaru. Just because she was on Team 7 she was given that oppurtunity although I can't fault her chakra control with that being necessary to work under tsunade.

I didn't particularly care for Anko but I was sad Tenten was forgotten about, it's cruel that it's a fact she gets less screentime than Tonton and for her not to get the oppurtunity to become Tsunade's apprentice was even crueler.

I probably worded that wrong, I meant the konoha 12 were friends, Shikamaru, Choji and Kiba were friends with Naruto, since Ino was always with Shikamaru and Choji, Sakura was always with them and so forth. I agree with the rest.

It was stated as a fact by Kishi that Ino would've won had Naruto not interfered but yes it's stupid but that's Kishi for you.

Yeah that's what I was refering to, I'd still say it counted, like I said, she was useless when she did it but it affected Naruto alot after he realised he hurt her.

I guess that's true but Minato's and Kushina's relationship was similar, the amount of time's she punched Minato or got all Red Habanero on him. Whenever Naruto is with Sakura he shrinks back a bit just like Minato did with Kushina. I'm not saying its a good relationship or a good thing, I'm just comparing the relationships.

I completely agree with the last two paragraphs haha
#176 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
Sakura's chakra control was only good because she had very little chakra to work with. I've said it on other posts, but it's not very impressive to be able to control a bottle of water compared to controlling a lake like the rest of the group. Or an ocean, in Naruto's case, though Kyuubi did most of that I think.

Anko's plot device of being Orochimaru's apprentice was something I wanted to have appear to help Sasuke "work through the darkness" so to speak. Being the only one who can resist the seal, despite its power, felt important... But it went no where. Plus she could have trained Sakura in poison arts or something, you know? Poor Tenten got the worst of it though, especially with how they kept teasing us. Like her getting those Sage Weapons and just... doing nothing with them.

I don't think they were really "Friends", you know? They got in trouble a lot, but Naruto never hung out with them outside of school. They just happened to be together because none of them could put up the effort in school, so Iruka scolded them together. Ino and Sakura weren't really part of that anyways. Ino only knew Chouji and Shikamaru personally because she was 'forced' into family dinners, since their fathers were teammates in the past.

I still feel like the Inner sakura thing would have been the reason she didn't win, but like I said, it was an aspect of Naruto supporting her that made Inner Sakura pop out. I think him saying that was just an excuse so he didn't have to worry about people questioning him about the 'inner.'

I get that she tried to help, but... I dunno. Doesn't really +1 her for me.

Minato and Naruto are different, though. Minato was... not as loud as Naruto, he needed someone to push him forward I think. He was just a quiet and rather casual genius of space-time seals... Though to be honest the whole idea of him just casually knowing the perfect way to seal the Kyuubi perfectly was always sketchy to me. But anyways, I think that suited him because he needed to be pushed. Naruto needs to be held back.

Kushi is still a bad character though, in my books.

But yeah, I mean... Sakura had great potential and I think all the characters, specially poor Tenten, had just been shoved to the side for 'bigger' characters. It's a shame, but what can you do?
User avatar #181 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
Great comparison, was about to say that Naruto has poor chakra control then I saw you wrote about Kyuubi haha

I think Kishi wrote off anko for helping Sasuke because he wanted him to become as dark as possible but who knows, he probably just forgot about her. Kin and Gin's weapons took alot out of Tenten but I think with time she would've been able to manage to use them efficiently, it's a shame she wasn't shown to develop or anything.

Shikaku was actually the only parent to tell Shikamaru that if he wanted to be friends with Naruto then he could, he never told Shikamaru to stay away from Naruto so they actually became friends. I'd still say InoShikaCho were friends obviously Shikamaru and Choji were closer but Ino still played and trained with them.

True.

I agree I'd still argue MinaKushi being closer to NaruSaku than NaruHina but arguably Hinata is closer to Minato whilst Naruto is so similar to his mother.

I actually love Kushina's character, she's one of the only kunoichi I actually like haha.

I agree she was wasted potential. It's quite a big issue with large shounen anime, too many side characters get created and just get dismissed after they've been used, that's why I love about Eiichiro Oda's writing, he manages to create such a large cast and still manages to reincorporate the majority of his side characters back into the main story.
#183 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
I don't have much to add on about most of what you said, but...

I personally loved Tayuya's character and Kushina + Sakura are my least favorite. And Shikamaru was too lazy to really be Naruto's friend, I think.

But the big thing about Oda compared to Kishi is that Oda wrote down most of One Piece's plot, from what I've been told Kishi just kind of made it up on the spot, like with the Ichibi and Kyuubi thing I mentioned just being completely made up after the two characters were created rather than before hand.

It's weird, but Naruto's idea may have been better off in the hands of some other writer after Kishi laid down the starting ground.
User avatar #196 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
i see! haha sorry, the first person to really acknowledge him was hinata and that is why i liked her from the start of the show, because no matter what her parents said or her other classmates she still wanted to be like him and help him, so in my opinion she rocks and im glad that it was her and naruto who ended up getting married, especially because she acts a lot like minato and he was one of my favorite characters.
User avatar #194 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
nooo, shikamaru stated that he'd follow naruto anywhere and in the war he said that he couldnt die since he would help naruto become hokage and help him do his work and what not
#195 - bluemagebrilly (02/17/2015) [-]
No, no, I meant back when they were kids. Not later on.
User avatar #187 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
There were barely any strong female characters to me, even Tsunade a kunoichi at hokage level is still considerably weaker than the other hokage and other male characters.

I like Konan but I think her potential was slightly wasted, still a good character though. I really liked Kushina, she toned down quite a lot as she got older which was nice to see too, she really fitted Minato. The only other kunoichi I can say I liked was Tenten and Ino because of how hard she worked, I remember reading a fact on her that she worked hardest out of any female, it changed my opinion of her.

I think pre-plotting is the best way to go about writing manga, Oda manages to slowly puzzle all aspects of the manga, you go through one arc or hear one thing and think what's that got to do with anything then about 300 episodes later you realise it fits in with something else. Despite being so long I don't think I'll ever get bored of One Piece due to Oda's writing. Kishi seemed to be writing Naruto half assed and created so many plot holes, I agree it may've been better off.

In regards to what you said about Minato sealing the Kyuubi before, it was said after he got with Kushina he visited the Uzumaki's and learned many fuinjutsu considering they were the best at fuinjutsu apparently, which "explains" how he's so good at sealing jutsu.
#188 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
Tayuya was strong, just had a bad match up in the forest against Temari. She almost beat Shikamaru, after all. Sort of in the same boat with Tenten, to be honest. Temari got matched up against them and was such a poor match up that it knocked them out of the plot.

Konan was pretty wasted, she didn't really do anything up until Nagato died. Which was a shame since they never really addressed the fact that she could turn into paper. I didn't like Kushina at all though, she was just another default angry female character to me.

Yeah, Oda even has plans that we're not aware of going on and they're likely to show up and completely destroy what we thought was real. I'm fully expecting Luffy to actually lose a fight hard soon, probably after Dofla is dealt with.

I think it was said Minato knew how to move really really fast before he got involved with Kushina though. I could be wrong about that, but the 'Thunder God' technique was a sealing Jutsu mixed with space-time Ninjutsu or something like that.

I get that he could know seals like the 'Death Demon Seal' or whatever, but it just felt way too perfect he had the best seal at hand. It also felt weird that he'd split the power of the Kyuubi, which is crap in my opinion and makes more plot holes, but... It just felt too perfect. Too planned, I guess. Plus he could have just sealed the Kyuubi back in his wife, but he refused.

Meh, I dunno. <(' '<)
User avatar #184 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
Thanks for using another comparison.

I get loads of mentions from you.
User avatar #186 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
>>#185

It's ok, I like it
#185 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
I don't.. I even like... tried to not.

I tried to not.

It just... It just happens. ;-;
User avatar #177 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
Thanks a lot for using a comparison, hope you have a good day.
#178 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
... One day you will be compared to someone who does not compare things!

And then you will explode!
User avatar #179 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
Impossible!
User avatar #157 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
i like the way you think!! sakura was a good character and all but i liked hinata more because she was there for naruto more than anyone else was, especially against pain, without her everyone would have probably died, and when you reach the 4th shinobi war thats where you can see that people know hinata loves naruto, because neji tells naruto that her life is in his hands meaning that she loves him so much shed do anything for him, so they kind of developed the love story but they should have done a little more with it
#160 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
They definitely should have done more, I agree. But it's silly to say they didn't have anything, you know?

Naruto is just like... the icon of "wasted potential." Thankfully the show has fans for that, but it still would have been nice to see the show in the hands of someone like... like Oda, who planned everything in One Piece ahead of time rather than making it up on the spot.
User avatar #192 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
true that i actually just started watching fairy tale, one piece and death note
User avatar #144 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
i see yeah they should have developed it a tad more, like had more episodes with hinata and naruto to make it seem more real, but i guess thats what theyre doing in the new movie theyre showing what actually happened and its not like naruto falls straight into love, from my understanding the movie goes over a 2 year course or something like that and shows hinata and him grow together more and more
User avatar #145 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I agree and yeah thats true, I can see how Naruto fell in love but it just seems a little far fetched, I don't mind NaruHina but I just think Sakura would've fit better.
User avatar #151 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
true then you got to think about sasuke its just one big cluster fuck, the guy who created it should have added a few filler episodes with a more romantic touch to them so you can see why the characters did what they did and fell for whoever they are with
User avatar #155 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
That's why I hate SasuSaku more than NaruHina because:
>Sasuke was portrayed as emotionless and incapable of compassion or love throughout 90% of the anime
>He's tried to kill Sakura many times so why would he suddenly fall in love with her?
>In addition to trying to kill her, abandoning her many times and treating her like shit, how could Sakura still love him?
>In parts of the manga she was actually shown almost falling for Naruto, if her love for Sasuke wavered then did she truly love him?
>Sasuke had no interest in love shown with both Sakura and Karin, what changed?

It honestly makes no sense and it's completely understandable the majority of the fans would be mad
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User avatar #189 - Furubatsu (02/16/2015) [-]
it was interesting, some of the jobs/lives/couples at the end seemed really left-field but otherwise nothing to complain about
User avatar #191 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
well the new movie is going to show how it all happened so im excited for june
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User avatar #122 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
how it ended
User avatar #189 - Furubatsu (02/16/2015) [-]
it was interesting, some of the jobs/lives/couples at the end seemed really left-field but otherwise nothing to complain about
User avatar #191 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
well the new movie is going to show how it all happened so im excited for june
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User avatar #132 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I disliked the fact Naruto & Hinata got together and REALLYdislike the fact Sasuke & Sakura ended up together
User avatar #133 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
WHYY!!!?? i wanted naruto and hinata to get together because sakura only put naruto down and hinata only wanted the best for naruto and even save his life against pain, so in my book im glad it was those two!
User avatar #139 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I really don't like Hinata as a character, she had so much potential but she ended up being there just for Naruto, the only time she was ever shown was for Naruto's purpose, she's soulless and without personality. Sakura, although I don't particularly like her, actually has a character, she's strong and has a life outside of supporting Naruto. I don't see how Naruto, after loving Sakura since he was around the age of 8 (8/9 years) could suddenly fall in love with Hinata who he barely noticed.
#152 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
Sakura mentioned. Swell with uselessness.

I don't really understand what you mean by Sakura having character or being strong. She didn't really do anything but whine and complain for 90% of the first half of the show. She was just there to be there, just like you're accusing Hinata of. Her 'life' was just Sasuke this, Sasuke that, up until the middle of the Chuunin exam where she actually did something.

But that fell off, along with many other plot devices, and she became useless again. Up until the fight with Sasori where she acted as someone's puppet rather than actually showing she got strong herself. Only thing she does is break a few puppets and rocks for the rest of Shippuden. Only 'good' thing she did was try to kill Sasuke, but she failed that too and it was dumb of her to try and do that alone anyways.

Anywho, I'd blame Kishi's writing style after the Shippuden started for how you feel about Hinata being a "souless" character. Most of the side characters were kind of pushed to the side after that. It was all about Naruto, Sasuke, and the super powerful characters. The rest were just kind of fodder and only appeared to do anything when they needed to.

Another thing you mentioned is how Naruto 'loved' Sakura, but he didn't. Just wanted attention from her and found her attractive, for some reason, when he was 12. She was super abusive, but he was needy for a friend at that point. Her staying as his 'target of affection' was just Kishi not knowing what to do with that.

Plus, it's not like Hinata / Naruto didn't have that whole thing where he stuck up for her against Neji and basically only won against the guy because of how much he wanted to prove to Neji that he, and Hinata by proxy, could beat a 'genius.' The plot device was dropped after that, as said before, but it did happen.

Plus Hinata appeared with Naruto twice in Shippuden and supported him when he really needed it. Considering his character, it seems fine to me that it stuck to him more than Sakura punching him on the head.

Anywho... I'd say just blame Kishi.
User avatar #164 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
Like I said before, I don't actually like Sakura but I prefer her to Hinata.

When I say character I mean she existed outside of Naruto and Sasuke after the first part of the anime, she became a singular character in shippuden.

She was definitely useless for the majority of the anime although towards the end and in the shinobi war I can't disagree she wasn't useful, she is only second to Tsunade as a medic ninja and is one of the only strong female ninja (For some reason Kishi doesn't create many strong female shinobi).

I do believe Naruto genuinely loved Sakura but to begin with only "loved her" because she liked Sasuke and like you said found her attractive and wanted her attention. I said from the age of 8 because they were all friends at that point, he started liking Sakura around the same time she liked Sasuke which is shown in an episode when they were both quite young. It could be just as easily said Naruto didn't love Hinata as shown in the The Last, Sakura is shown pushing the pair together saying to Naruto things like "You never really loved me, you just liked me because Sasuke liked me", at one point Hinata even questions why Sakura is helping her so much when she had no such reason. However I do believe towards the end of the movie, Naruto genuinely loved Hinata, I just think the transition was poorly written.

I do believe Hinata & Naruto have had their moments like you said but he also stuck up for Sakura against Ino during the chunnin exams which is the only reason Sakura beat Ino, because of Naruto's support from the side lines.

Sakura tried to save Naruto at times like when he started transforming into the 9 tails and managed a few tailed cloak, Sakura ran to stop him but yet again she was useless and just got hurt.

Hinata was much more effective and better at supporting Naruto, I can't deny that.

Lastly, I believe Sakura fitted the mould for Naruto's gf/wife better, she has many characteristics similar to Kushina, Minato even stated Sakura reminded him of Kushina.

Kishi's writing really went down hill, the only reason I believe all that above is down to the way he put things across but after all it's his manga and what he says goes.
#165 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
I prefer useful characters, even if they don't show up too often. <(' '<)

She was the only 'singular' character because she was in their team. If it was anyone else, they would have got the same thing. That's practically the reason she got to be Tsunade's apprentice over Hinata or Tenten who had more potential with it. She knew Naruto, and that's all that mattered.

That was just his thing, he forgot about all of the side characters he made, especially the female ones. Like Anko and Tenten.

They weren't friends, you know? Sakura hated the kid because of her parents and because of her obsession with Sasuke. They were never really "Friends" up until the Wave Arc. Sakura just found Naruto really annoying up until then. I haven't seen the movie, but honestly I'd take what that says with a grain of salt in regards to how Naruto and Sakura were back then. Kishi has forgotten his roots.

Sakura beating Ino with Naurto's support is a bit of a stretch, don't you think? I mean, it was an aspect, but that 'Inner Sakura' thing, which was randomly dropped as well, is the real reason she won. And he didn't go punch Ino in the face for tying with Sakura, either.

You mean when he went 4 tails? I don't really know if that counts as anything. <(' '<) She did just get smacked around. Could have tried to grab him with a tree or something... I dunno.

I think Sakura would have been great support if she could learn how to do something other than smack him in the back of the head.

I completely disagree. Naruto needed someone to offset his loudness, not match him. Someone who could help him settle down and think instead of rushing off ahead. If Sakura was going to be his wife, they'd just yell a lot and Sakura would end up punching Naruto. Abusive relationships aren't good, no matter how much anime tries to play it off.

And Kushina was an awful character anyways, way too angry and abusive just like Sakura. That character lost a lot of points for me when I found out she practically tortured Kyuubi with the chains that made up her seal. Demon or not, that's not cool, especially when the fox had already been tortured by Madara/Hashirama/Mito.

I do agree his writing went down hill and I think it's because he just kind of forgot what he was trying to make at first. It was about 'Ninja' at first, but then it was about the Sage and demons. Originally, the Ichibi and Kyuubi had no connection to each other, besides both being demons sealed inside children.

That's why the Ichibi is so different from the rest, since he was made before the idea of them being connected was put into play. Kyuubi is just based off a Kitsune. There was a lot of wasted potential, more or less.
User avatar #169 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I sometimes do haha c:

That's true. Also Sakura took the easy option by becoming the apprentice of the only available sannin after Naruto had took off with Jiraiya and Sasuke with Orochimaru. Just because she was on Team 7 she was given that oppurtunity although I can't fault her chakra control with that being necessary to work under tsunade.

I didn't particularly care for Anko but I was sad Tenten was forgotten about, it's cruel that it's a fact she gets less screentime than Tonton and for her not to get the oppurtunity to become Tsunade's apprentice was even crueler.

I probably worded that wrong, I meant the konoha 12 were friends, Shikamaru, Choji and Kiba were friends with Naruto, since Ino was always with Shikamaru and Choji, Sakura was always with them and so forth. I agree with the rest.

It was stated as a fact by Kishi that Ino would've won had Naruto not interfered but yes it's stupid but that's Kishi for you.

Yeah that's what I was refering to, I'd still say it counted, like I said, she was useless when she did it but it affected Naruto alot after he realised he hurt her.

I guess that's true but Minato's and Kushina's relationship was similar, the amount of time's she punched Minato or got all Red Habanero on him. Whenever Naruto is with Sakura he shrinks back a bit just like Minato did with Kushina. I'm not saying its a good relationship or a good thing, I'm just comparing the relationships.

I completely agree with the last two paragraphs haha
#176 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
Sakura's chakra control was only good because she had very little chakra to work with. I've said it on other posts, but it's not very impressive to be able to control a bottle of water compared to controlling a lake like the rest of the group. Or an ocean, in Naruto's case, though Kyuubi did most of that I think.

Anko's plot device of being Orochimaru's apprentice was something I wanted to have appear to help Sasuke "work through the darkness" so to speak. Being the only one who can resist the seal, despite its power, felt important... But it went no where. Plus she could have trained Sakura in poison arts or something, you know? Poor Tenten got the worst of it though, especially with how they kept teasing us. Like her getting those Sage Weapons and just... doing nothing with them.

I don't think they were really "Friends", you know? They got in trouble a lot, but Naruto never hung out with them outside of school. They just happened to be together because none of them could put up the effort in school, so Iruka scolded them together. Ino and Sakura weren't really part of that anyways. Ino only knew Chouji and Shikamaru personally because she was 'forced' into family dinners, since their fathers were teammates in the past.

I still feel like the Inner sakura thing would have been the reason she didn't win, but like I said, it was an aspect of Naruto supporting her that made Inner Sakura pop out. I think him saying that was just an excuse so he didn't have to worry about people questioning him about the 'inner.'

I get that she tried to help, but... I dunno. Doesn't really +1 her for me.

Minato and Naruto are different, though. Minato was... not as loud as Naruto, he needed someone to push him forward I think. He was just a quiet and rather casual genius of space-time seals... Though to be honest the whole idea of him just casually knowing the perfect way to seal the Kyuubi perfectly was always sketchy to me. But anyways, I think that suited him because he needed to be pushed. Naruto needs to be held back.

Kushi is still a bad character though, in my books.

But yeah, I mean... Sakura had great potential and I think all the characters, specially poor Tenten, had just been shoved to the side for 'bigger' characters. It's a shame, but what can you do?
User avatar #181 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
Great comparison, was about to say that Naruto has poor chakra control then I saw you wrote about Kyuubi haha

I think Kishi wrote off anko for helping Sasuke because he wanted him to become as dark as possible but who knows, he probably just forgot about her. Kin and Gin's weapons took alot out of Tenten but I think with time she would've been able to manage to use them efficiently, it's a shame she wasn't shown to develop or anything.

Shikaku was actually the only parent to tell Shikamaru that if he wanted to be friends with Naruto then he could, he never told Shikamaru to stay away from Naruto so they actually became friends. I'd still say InoShikaCho were friends obviously Shikamaru and Choji were closer but Ino still played and trained with them.

True.

I agree I'd still argue MinaKushi being closer to NaruSaku than NaruHina but arguably Hinata is closer to Minato whilst Naruto is so similar to his mother.

I actually love Kushina's character, she's one of the only kunoichi I actually like haha.

I agree she was wasted potential. It's quite a big issue with large shounen anime, too many side characters get created and just get dismissed after they've been used, that's why I love about Eiichiro Oda's writing, he manages to create such a large cast and still manages to reincorporate the majority of his side characters back into the main story.
#183 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
I don't have much to add on about most of what you said, but...

I personally loved Tayuya's character and Kushina + Sakura are my least favorite. And Shikamaru was too lazy to really be Naruto's friend, I think.

But the big thing about Oda compared to Kishi is that Oda wrote down most of One Piece's plot, from what I've been told Kishi just kind of made it up on the spot, like with the Ichibi and Kyuubi thing I mentioned just being completely made up after the two characters were created rather than before hand.

It's weird, but Naruto's idea may have been better off in the hands of some other writer after Kishi laid down the starting ground.
User avatar #196 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
i see! haha sorry, the first person to really acknowledge him was hinata and that is why i liked her from the start of the show, because no matter what her parents said or her other classmates she still wanted to be like him and help him, so in my opinion she rocks and im glad that it was her and naruto who ended up getting married, especially because she acts a lot like minato and he was one of my favorite characters.
User avatar #194 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
nooo, shikamaru stated that he'd follow naruto anywhere and in the war he said that he couldnt die since he would help naruto become hokage and help him do his work and what not
#195 - bluemagebrilly (02/17/2015) [-]
No, no, I meant back when they were kids. Not later on.
User avatar #187 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
There were barely any strong female characters to me, even Tsunade a kunoichi at hokage level is still considerably weaker than the other hokage and other male characters.

I like Konan but I think her potential was slightly wasted, still a good character though. I really liked Kushina, she toned down quite a lot as she got older which was nice to see too, she really fitted Minato. The only other kunoichi I can say I liked was Tenten and Ino because of how hard she worked, I remember reading a fact on her that she worked hardest out of any female, it changed my opinion of her.

I think pre-plotting is the best way to go about writing manga, Oda manages to slowly puzzle all aspects of the manga, you go through one arc or hear one thing and think what's that got to do with anything then about 300 episodes later you realise it fits in with something else. Despite being so long I don't think I'll ever get bored of One Piece due to Oda's writing. Kishi seemed to be writing Naruto half assed and created so many plot holes, I agree it may've been better off.

In regards to what you said about Minato sealing the Kyuubi before, it was said after he got with Kushina he visited the Uzumaki's and learned many fuinjutsu considering they were the best at fuinjutsu apparently, which "explains" how he's so good at sealing jutsu.
#188 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
Tayuya was strong, just had a bad match up in the forest against Temari. She almost beat Shikamaru, after all. Sort of in the same boat with Tenten, to be honest. Temari got matched up against them and was such a poor match up that it knocked them out of the plot.

Konan was pretty wasted, she didn't really do anything up until Nagato died. Which was a shame since they never really addressed the fact that she could turn into paper. I didn't like Kushina at all though, she was just another default angry female character to me.

Yeah, Oda even has plans that we're not aware of going on and they're likely to show up and completely destroy what we thought was real. I'm fully expecting Luffy to actually lose a fight hard soon, probably after Dofla is dealt with.

I think it was said Minato knew how to move really really fast before he got involved with Kushina though. I could be wrong about that, but the 'Thunder God' technique was a sealing Jutsu mixed with space-time Ninjutsu or something like that.

I get that he could know seals like the 'Death Demon Seal' or whatever, but it just felt way too perfect he had the best seal at hand. It also felt weird that he'd split the power of the Kyuubi, which is crap in my opinion and makes more plot holes, but... It just felt too perfect. Too planned, I guess. Plus he could have just sealed the Kyuubi back in his wife, but he refused.

Meh, I dunno. <(' '<)
User avatar #184 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
Thanks for using another comparison.

I get loads of mentions from you.
User avatar #186 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
>>#185

It's ok, I like it
#185 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
I don't.. I even like... tried to not.

I tried to not.

It just... It just happens. ;-;
User avatar #177 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
Thanks a lot for using a comparison, hope you have a good day.
#178 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
... One day you will be compared to someone who does not compare things!

And then you will explode!
User avatar #179 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
Impossible!
User avatar #157 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
i like the way you think!! sakura was a good character and all but i liked hinata more because she was there for naruto more than anyone else was, especially against pain, without her everyone would have probably died, and when you reach the 4th shinobi war thats where you can see that people know hinata loves naruto, because neji tells naruto that her life is in his hands meaning that she loves him so much shed do anything for him, so they kind of developed the love story but they should have done a little more with it
#160 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
They definitely should have done more, I agree. But it's silly to say they didn't have anything, you know?

Naruto is just like... the icon of "wasted potential." Thankfully the show has fans for that, but it still would have been nice to see the show in the hands of someone like... like Oda, who planned everything in One Piece ahead of time rather than making it up on the spot.
User avatar #192 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
true that i actually just started watching fairy tale, one piece and death note
User avatar #144 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
i see yeah they should have developed it a tad more, like had more episodes with hinata and naruto to make it seem more real, but i guess thats what theyre doing in the new movie theyre showing what actually happened and its not like naruto falls straight into love, from my understanding the movie goes over a 2 year course or something like that and shows hinata and him grow together more and more
User avatar #145 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I agree and yeah thats true, I can see how Naruto fell in love but it just seems a little far fetched, I don't mind NaruHina but I just think Sakura would've fit better.
User avatar #151 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
true then you got to think about sasuke its just one big cluster fuck, the guy who created it should have added a few filler episodes with a more romantic touch to them so you can see why the characters did what they did and fell for whoever they are with
User avatar #155 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
That's why I hate SasuSaku more than NaruHina because:
>Sasuke was portrayed as emotionless and incapable of compassion or love throughout 90% of the anime
>He's tried to kill Sakura many times so why would he suddenly fall in love with her?
>In addition to trying to kill her, abandoning her many times and treating her like shit, how could Sakura still love him?
>In parts of the manga she was actually shown almost falling for Naruto, if her love for Sasuke wavered then did she truly love him?
>Sasuke had no interest in love shown with both Sakura and Karin, what changed?

It honestly makes no sense and it's completely understandable the majority of the fans would be mad
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User avatar #117 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I didn't particularly like the ending but ah well and same x 3
User avatar #120 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
what about the ending did you not like? Im just glad naruto and hinata got together in the show and that lee is still alive haha
User avatar #132 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I disliked the fact Naruto & Hinata got together and REALLYdislike the fact Sasuke & Sakura ended up together
User avatar #133 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
WHYY!!!?? i wanted naruto and hinata to get together because sakura only put naruto down and hinata only wanted the best for naruto and even save his life against pain, so in my book im glad it was those two!
User avatar #139 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I really don't like Hinata as a character, she had so much potential but she ended up being there just for Naruto, the only time she was ever shown was for Naruto's purpose, she's soulless and without personality. Sakura, although I don't particularly like her, actually has a character, she's strong and has a life outside of supporting Naruto. I don't see how Naruto, after loving Sakura since he was around the age of 8 (8/9 years) could suddenly fall in love with Hinata who he barely noticed.
#152 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
Sakura mentioned. Swell with uselessness.

I don't really understand what you mean by Sakura having character or being strong. She didn't really do anything but whine and complain for 90% of the first half of the show. She was just there to be there, just like you're accusing Hinata of. Her 'life' was just Sasuke this, Sasuke that, up until the middle of the Chuunin exam where she actually did something.

But that fell off, along with many other plot devices, and she became useless again. Up until the fight with Sasori where she acted as someone's puppet rather than actually showing she got strong herself. Only thing she does is break a few puppets and rocks for the rest of Shippuden. Only 'good' thing she did was try to kill Sasuke, but she failed that too and it was dumb of her to try and do that alone anyways.

Anywho, I'd blame Kishi's writing style after the Shippuden started for how you feel about Hinata being a "souless" character. Most of the side characters were kind of pushed to the side after that. It was all about Naruto, Sasuke, and the super powerful characters. The rest were just kind of fodder and only appeared to do anything when they needed to.

Another thing you mentioned is how Naruto 'loved' Sakura, but he didn't. Just wanted attention from her and found her attractive, for some reason, when he was 12. She was super abusive, but he was needy for a friend at that point. Her staying as his 'target of affection' was just Kishi not knowing what to do with that.

Plus, it's not like Hinata / Naruto didn't have that whole thing where he stuck up for her against Neji and basically only won against the guy because of how much he wanted to prove to Neji that he, and Hinata by proxy, could beat a 'genius.' The plot device was dropped after that, as said before, but it did happen.

Plus Hinata appeared with Naruto twice in Shippuden and supported him when he really needed it. Considering his character, it seems fine to me that it stuck to him more than Sakura punching him on the head.

Anywho... I'd say just blame Kishi.
User avatar #164 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
Like I said before, I don't actually like Sakura but I prefer her to Hinata.

When I say character I mean she existed outside of Naruto and Sasuke after the first part of the anime, she became a singular character in shippuden.

She was definitely useless for the majority of the anime although towards the end and in the shinobi war I can't disagree she wasn't useful, she is only second to Tsunade as a medic ninja and is one of the only strong female ninja (For some reason Kishi doesn't create many strong female shinobi).

I do believe Naruto genuinely loved Sakura but to begin with only "loved her" because she liked Sasuke and like you said found her attractive and wanted her attention. I said from the age of 8 because they were all friends at that point, he started liking Sakura around the same time she liked Sasuke which is shown in an episode when they were both quite young. It could be just as easily said Naruto didn't love Hinata as shown in the The Last, Sakura is shown pushing the pair together saying to Naruto things like "You never really loved me, you just liked me because Sasuke liked me", at one point Hinata even questions why Sakura is helping her so much when she had no such reason. However I do believe towards the end of the movie, Naruto genuinely loved Hinata, I just think the transition was poorly written.

I do believe Hinata & Naruto have had their moments like you said but he also stuck up for Sakura against Ino during the chunnin exams which is the only reason Sakura beat Ino, because of Naruto's support from the side lines.

Sakura tried to save Naruto at times like when he started transforming into the 9 tails and managed a few tailed cloak, Sakura ran to stop him but yet again she was useless and just got hurt.

Hinata was much more effective and better at supporting Naruto, I can't deny that.

Lastly, I believe Sakura fitted the mould for Naruto's gf/wife better, she has many characteristics similar to Kushina, Minato even stated Sakura reminded him of Kushina.

Kishi's writing really went down hill, the only reason I believe all that above is down to the way he put things across but after all it's his manga and what he says goes.
#165 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
I prefer useful characters, even if they don't show up too often. <(' '<)

She was the only 'singular' character because she was in their team. If it was anyone else, they would have got the same thing. That's practically the reason she got to be Tsunade's apprentice over Hinata or Tenten who had more potential with it. She knew Naruto, and that's all that mattered.

That was just his thing, he forgot about all of the side characters he made, especially the female ones. Like Anko and Tenten.

They weren't friends, you know? Sakura hated the kid because of her parents and because of her obsession with Sasuke. They were never really "Friends" up until the Wave Arc. Sakura just found Naruto really annoying up until then. I haven't seen the movie, but honestly I'd take what that says with a grain of salt in regards to how Naruto and Sakura were back then. Kishi has forgotten his roots.

Sakura beating Ino with Naurto's support is a bit of a stretch, don't you think? I mean, it was an aspect, but that 'Inner Sakura' thing, which was randomly dropped as well, is the real reason she won. And he didn't go punch Ino in the face for tying with Sakura, either.

You mean when he went 4 tails? I don't really know if that counts as anything. <(' '<) She did just get smacked around. Could have tried to grab him with a tree or something... I dunno.

I think Sakura would have been great support if she could learn how to do something other than smack him in the back of the head.

I completely disagree. Naruto needed someone to offset his loudness, not match him. Someone who could help him settle down and think instead of rushing off ahead. If Sakura was going to be his wife, they'd just yell a lot and Sakura would end up punching Naruto. Abusive relationships aren't good, no matter how much anime tries to play it off.

And Kushina was an awful character anyways, way too angry and abusive just like Sakura. That character lost a lot of points for me when I found out she practically tortured Kyuubi with the chains that made up her seal. Demon or not, that's not cool, especially when the fox had already been tortured by Madara/Hashirama/Mito.

I do agree his writing went down hill and I think it's because he just kind of forgot what he was trying to make at first. It was about 'Ninja' at first, but then it was about the Sage and demons. Originally, the Ichibi and Kyuubi had no connection to each other, besides both being demons sealed inside children.

That's why the Ichibi is so different from the rest, since he was made before the idea of them being connected was put into play. Kyuubi is just based off a Kitsune. There was a lot of wasted potential, more or less.
User avatar #169 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I sometimes do haha c:

That's true. Also Sakura took the easy option by becoming the apprentice of the only available sannin after Naruto had took off with Jiraiya and Sasuke with Orochimaru. Just because she was on Team 7 she was given that oppurtunity although I can't fault her chakra control with that being necessary to work under tsunade.

I didn't particularly care for Anko but I was sad Tenten was forgotten about, it's cruel that it's a fact she gets less screentime than Tonton and for her not to get the oppurtunity to become Tsunade's apprentice was even crueler.

I probably worded that wrong, I meant the konoha 12 were friends, Shikamaru, Choji and Kiba were friends with Naruto, since Ino was always with Shikamaru and Choji, Sakura was always with them and so forth. I agree with the rest.

It was stated as a fact by Kishi that Ino would've won had Naruto not interfered but yes it's stupid but that's Kishi for you.

Yeah that's what I was refering to, I'd still say it counted, like I said, she was useless when she did it but it affected Naruto alot after he realised he hurt her.

I guess that's true but Minato's and Kushina's relationship was similar, the amount of time's she punched Minato or got all Red Habanero on him. Whenever Naruto is with Sakura he shrinks back a bit just like Minato did with Kushina. I'm not saying its a good relationship or a good thing, I'm just comparing the relationships.

I completely agree with the last two paragraphs haha
#176 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
Sakura's chakra control was only good because she had very little chakra to work with. I've said it on other posts, but it's not very impressive to be able to control a bottle of water compared to controlling a lake like the rest of the group. Or an ocean, in Naruto's case, though Kyuubi did most of that I think.

Anko's plot device of being Orochimaru's apprentice was something I wanted to have appear to help Sasuke "work through the darkness" so to speak. Being the only one who can resist the seal, despite its power, felt important... But it went no where. Plus she could have trained Sakura in poison arts or something, you know? Poor Tenten got the worst of it though, especially with how they kept teasing us. Like her getting those Sage Weapons and just... doing nothing with them.

I don't think they were really "Friends", you know? They got in trouble a lot, but Naruto never hung out with them outside of school. They just happened to be together because none of them could put up the effort in school, so Iruka scolded them together. Ino and Sakura weren't really part of that anyways. Ino only knew Chouji and Shikamaru personally because she was 'forced' into family dinners, since their fathers were teammates in the past.

I still feel like the Inner sakura thing would have been the reason she didn't win, but like I said, it was an aspect of Naruto supporting her that made Inner Sakura pop out. I think him saying that was just an excuse so he didn't have to worry about people questioning him about the 'inner.'

I get that she tried to help, but... I dunno. Doesn't really +1 her for me.

Minato and Naruto are different, though. Minato was... not as loud as Naruto, he needed someone to push him forward I think. He was just a quiet and rather casual genius of space-time seals... Though to be honest the whole idea of him just casually knowing the perfect way to seal the Kyuubi perfectly was always sketchy to me. But anyways, I think that suited him because he needed to be pushed. Naruto needs to be held back.

Kushi is still a bad character though, in my books.

But yeah, I mean... Sakura had great potential and I think all the characters, specially poor Tenten, had just been shoved to the side for 'bigger' characters. It's a shame, but what can you do?
User avatar #181 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
Great comparison, was about to say that Naruto has poor chakra control then I saw you wrote about Kyuubi haha

I think Kishi wrote off anko for helping Sasuke because he wanted him to become as dark as possible but who knows, he probably just forgot about her. Kin and Gin's weapons took alot out of Tenten but I think with time she would've been able to manage to use them efficiently, it's a shame she wasn't shown to develop or anything.

Shikaku was actually the only parent to tell Shikamaru that if he wanted to be friends with Naruto then he could, he never told Shikamaru to stay away from Naruto so they actually became friends. I'd still say InoShikaCho were friends obviously Shikamaru and Choji were closer but Ino still played and trained with them.

True.

I agree I'd still argue MinaKushi being closer to NaruSaku than NaruHina but arguably Hinata is closer to Minato whilst Naruto is so similar to his mother.

I actually love Kushina's character, she's one of the only kunoichi I actually like haha.

I agree she was wasted potential. It's quite a big issue with large shounen anime, too many side characters get created and just get dismissed after they've been used, that's why I love about Eiichiro Oda's writing, he manages to create such a large cast and still manages to reincorporate the majority of his side characters back into the main story.
#183 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
I don't have much to add on about most of what you said, but...

I personally loved Tayuya's character and Kushina + Sakura are my least favorite. And Shikamaru was too lazy to really be Naruto's friend, I think.

But the big thing about Oda compared to Kishi is that Oda wrote down most of One Piece's plot, from what I've been told Kishi just kind of made it up on the spot, like with the Ichibi and Kyuubi thing I mentioned just being completely made up after the two characters were created rather than before hand.

It's weird, but Naruto's idea may have been better off in the hands of some other writer after Kishi laid down the starting ground.
User avatar #196 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
i see! haha sorry, the first person to really acknowledge him was hinata and that is why i liked her from the start of the show, because no matter what her parents said or her other classmates she still wanted to be like him and help him, so in my opinion she rocks and im glad that it was her and naruto who ended up getting married, especially because she acts a lot like minato and he was one of my favorite characters.
User avatar #194 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
nooo, shikamaru stated that he'd follow naruto anywhere and in the war he said that he couldnt die since he would help naruto become hokage and help him do his work and what not
#195 - bluemagebrilly (02/17/2015) [-]
No, no, I meant back when they were kids. Not later on.
User avatar #187 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
There were barely any strong female characters to me, even Tsunade a kunoichi at hokage level is still considerably weaker than the other hokage and other male characters.

I like Konan but I think her potential was slightly wasted, still a good character though. I really liked Kushina, she toned down quite a lot as she got older which was nice to see too, she really fitted Minato. The only other kunoichi I can say I liked was Tenten and Ino because of how hard she worked, I remember reading a fact on her that she worked hardest out of any female, it changed my opinion of her.

I think pre-plotting is the best way to go about writing manga, Oda manages to slowly puzzle all aspects of the manga, you go through one arc or hear one thing and think what's that got to do with anything then about 300 episodes later you realise it fits in with something else. Despite being so long I don't think I'll ever get bored of One Piece due to Oda's writing. Kishi seemed to be writing Naruto half assed and created so many plot holes, I agree it may've been better off.

In regards to what you said about Minato sealing the Kyuubi before, it was said after he got with Kushina he visited the Uzumaki's and learned many fuinjutsu considering they were the best at fuinjutsu apparently, which "explains" how he's so good at sealing jutsu.
#188 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
Tayuya was strong, just had a bad match up in the forest against Temari. She almost beat Shikamaru, after all. Sort of in the same boat with Tenten, to be honest. Temari got matched up against them and was such a poor match up that it knocked them out of the plot.

Konan was pretty wasted, she didn't really do anything up until Nagato died. Which was a shame since they never really addressed the fact that she could turn into paper. I didn't like Kushina at all though, she was just another default angry female character to me.

Yeah, Oda even has plans that we're not aware of going on and they're likely to show up and completely destroy what we thought was real. I'm fully expecting Luffy to actually lose a fight hard soon, probably after Dofla is dealt with.

I think it was said Minato knew how to move really really fast before he got involved with Kushina though. I could be wrong about that, but the 'Thunder God' technique was a sealing Jutsu mixed with space-time Ninjutsu or something like that.

I get that he could know seals like the 'Death Demon Seal' or whatever, but it just felt way too perfect he had the best seal at hand. It also felt weird that he'd split the power of the Kyuubi, which is crap in my opinion and makes more plot holes, but... It just felt too perfect. Too planned, I guess. Plus he could have just sealed the Kyuubi back in his wife, but he refused.

Meh, I dunno. <(' '<)
User avatar #184 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
Thanks for using another comparison.

I get loads of mentions from you.
User avatar #186 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
>>#185

It's ok, I like it
#185 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
I don't.. I even like... tried to not.

I tried to not.

It just... It just happens. ;-;
User avatar #177 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
Thanks a lot for using a comparison, hope you have a good day.
#178 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
... One day you will be compared to someone who does not compare things!

And then you will explode!
User avatar #179 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
Impossible!
User avatar #157 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
i like the way you think!! sakura was a good character and all but i liked hinata more because she was there for naruto more than anyone else was, especially against pain, without her everyone would have probably died, and when you reach the 4th shinobi war thats where you can see that people know hinata loves naruto, because neji tells naruto that her life is in his hands meaning that she loves him so much shed do anything for him, so they kind of developed the love story but they should have done a little more with it
#160 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
They definitely should have done more, I agree. But it's silly to say they didn't have anything, you know?

Naruto is just like... the icon of "wasted potential." Thankfully the show has fans for that, but it still would have been nice to see the show in the hands of someone like... like Oda, who planned everything in One Piece ahead of time rather than making it up on the spot.
User avatar #192 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
true that i actually just started watching fairy tale, one piece and death note
User avatar #144 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
i see yeah they should have developed it a tad more, like had more episodes with hinata and naruto to make it seem more real, but i guess thats what theyre doing in the new movie theyre showing what actually happened and its not like naruto falls straight into love, from my understanding the movie goes over a 2 year course or something like that and shows hinata and him grow together more and more
User avatar #145 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I agree and yeah thats true, I can see how Naruto fell in love but it just seems a little far fetched, I don't mind NaruHina but I just think Sakura would've fit better.
User avatar #151 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
true then you got to think about sasuke its just one big cluster fuck, the guy who created it should have added a few filler episodes with a more romantic touch to them so you can see why the characters did what they did and fell for whoever they are with
User avatar #155 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
That's why I hate SasuSaku more than NaruHina because:
>Sasuke was portrayed as emotionless and incapable of compassion or love throughout 90% of the anime
>He's tried to kill Sakura many times so why would he suddenly fall in love with her?
>In addition to trying to kill her, abandoning her many times and treating her like shit, how could Sakura still love him?
>In parts of the manga she was actually shown almost falling for Naruto, if her love for Sasuke wavered then did she truly love him?
>Sasuke had no interest in love shown with both Sakura and Karin, what changed?

It honestly makes no sense and it's completely understandable the majority of the fans would be mad
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User avatar #114 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
no problem, yeah I have, the fillers are frustrating, Naruto fillers weren't too bad because they were fairly funny and fitted the story but naruto shippuden fillers are just so bad and out of place.
User avatar #115 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
agreed, but im glad how naruto ends, im also happy theyre doing a movie to show what happens after the war, and also im glad that theyre doing another movie about narutos son, and another 1-3 seasons of naruto too
User avatar #117 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I didn't particularly like the ending but ah well and same x 3
User avatar #120 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
what about the ending did you not like? Im just glad naruto and hinata got together in the show and that lee is still alive haha
User avatar #132 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I disliked the fact Naruto & Hinata got together and REALLYdislike the fact Sasuke & Sakura ended up together
User avatar #133 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
WHYY!!!?? i wanted naruto and hinata to get together because sakura only put naruto down and hinata only wanted the best for naruto and even save his life against pain, so in my book im glad it was those two!
User avatar #139 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I really don't like Hinata as a character, she had so much potential but she ended up being there just for Naruto, the only time she was ever shown was for Naruto's purpose, she's soulless and without personality. Sakura, although I don't particularly like her, actually has a character, she's strong and has a life outside of supporting Naruto. I don't see how Naruto, after loving Sakura since he was around the age of 8 (8/9 years) could suddenly fall in love with Hinata who he barely noticed.
#152 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
Sakura mentioned. Swell with uselessness.

I don't really understand what you mean by Sakura having character or being strong. She didn't really do anything but whine and complain for 90% of the first half of the show. She was just there to be there, just like you're accusing Hinata of. Her 'life' was just Sasuke this, Sasuke that, up until the middle of the Chuunin exam where she actually did something.

But that fell off, along with many other plot devices, and she became useless again. Up until the fight with Sasori where she acted as someone's puppet rather than actually showing she got strong herself. Only thing she does is break a few puppets and rocks for the rest of Shippuden. Only 'good' thing she did was try to kill Sasuke, but she failed that too and it was dumb of her to try and do that alone anyways.

Anywho, I'd blame Kishi's writing style after the Shippuden started for how you feel about Hinata being a "souless" character. Most of the side characters were kind of pushed to the side after that. It was all about Naruto, Sasuke, and the super powerful characters. The rest were just kind of fodder and only appeared to do anything when they needed to.

Another thing you mentioned is how Naruto 'loved' Sakura, but he didn't. Just wanted attention from her and found her attractive, for some reason, when he was 12. She was super abusive, but he was needy for a friend at that point. Her staying as his 'target of affection' was just Kishi not knowing what to do with that.

Plus, it's not like Hinata / Naruto didn't have that whole thing where he stuck up for her against Neji and basically only won against the guy because of how much he wanted to prove to Neji that he, and Hinata by proxy, could beat a 'genius.' The plot device was dropped after that, as said before, but it did happen.

Plus Hinata appeared with Naruto twice in Shippuden and supported him when he really needed it. Considering his character, it seems fine to me that it stuck to him more than Sakura punching him on the head.

Anywho... I'd say just blame Kishi.
User avatar #164 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
Like I said before, I don't actually like Sakura but I prefer her to Hinata.

When I say character I mean she existed outside of Naruto and Sasuke after the first part of the anime, she became a singular character in shippuden.

She was definitely useless for the majority of the anime although towards the end and in the shinobi war I can't disagree she wasn't useful, she is only second to Tsunade as a medic ninja and is one of the only strong female ninja (For some reason Kishi doesn't create many strong female shinobi).

I do believe Naruto genuinely loved Sakura but to begin with only "loved her" because she liked Sasuke and like you said found her attractive and wanted her attention. I said from the age of 8 because they were all friends at that point, he started liking Sakura around the same time she liked Sasuke which is shown in an episode when they were both quite young. It could be just as easily said Naruto didn't love Hinata as shown in the The Last, Sakura is shown pushing the pair together saying to Naruto things like "You never really loved me, you just liked me because Sasuke liked me", at one point Hinata even questions why Sakura is helping her so much when she had no such reason. However I do believe towards the end of the movie, Naruto genuinely loved Hinata, I just think the transition was poorly written.

I do believe Hinata & Naruto have had their moments like you said but he also stuck up for Sakura against Ino during the chunnin exams which is the only reason Sakura beat Ino, because of Naruto's support from the side lines.

Sakura tried to save Naruto at times like when he started transforming into the 9 tails and managed a few tailed cloak, Sakura ran to stop him but yet again she was useless and just got hurt.

Hinata was much more effective and better at supporting Naruto, I can't deny that.

Lastly, I believe Sakura fitted the mould for Naruto's gf/wife better, she has many characteristics similar to Kushina, Minato even stated Sakura reminded him of Kushina.

Kishi's writing really went down hill, the only reason I believe all that above is down to the way he put things across but after all it's his manga and what he says goes.
#165 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
I prefer useful characters, even if they don't show up too often. <(' '<)

She was the only 'singular' character because she was in their team. If it was anyone else, they would have got the same thing. That's practically the reason she got to be Tsunade's apprentice over Hinata or Tenten who had more potential with it. She knew Naruto, and that's all that mattered.

That was just his thing, he forgot about all of the side characters he made, especially the female ones. Like Anko and Tenten.

They weren't friends, you know? Sakura hated the kid because of her parents and because of her obsession with Sasuke. They were never really "Friends" up until the Wave Arc. Sakura just found Naruto really annoying up until then. I haven't seen the movie, but honestly I'd take what that says with a grain of salt in regards to how Naruto and Sakura were back then. Kishi has forgotten his roots.

Sakura beating Ino with Naurto's support is a bit of a stretch, don't you think? I mean, it was an aspect, but that 'Inner Sakura' thing, which was randomly dropped as well, is the real reason she won. And he didn't go punch Ino in the face for tying with Sakura, either.

You mean when he went 4 tails? I don't really know if that counts as anything. <(' '<) She did just get smacked around. Could have tried to grab him with a tree or something... I dunno.

I think Sakura would have been great support if she could learn how to do something other than smack him in the back of the head.

I completely disagree. Naruto needed someone to offset his loudness, not match him. Someone who could help him settle down and think instead of rushing off ahead. If Sakura was going to be his wife, they'd just yell a lot and Sakura would end up punching Naruto. Abusive relationships aren't good, no matter how much anime tries to play it off.

And Kushina was an awful character anyways, way too angry and abusive just like Sakura. That character lost a lot of points for me when I found out she practically tortured Kyuubi with the chains that made up her seal. Demon or not, that's not cool, especially when the fox had already been tortured by Madara/Hashirama/Mito.

I do agree his writing went down hill and I think it's because he just kind of forgot what he was trying to make at first. It was about 'Ninja' at first, but then it was about the Sage and demons. Originally, the Ichibi and Kyuubi had no connection to each other, besides both being demons sealed inside children.

That's why the Ichibi is so different from the rest, since he was made before the idea of them being connected was put into play. Kyuubi is just based off a Kitsune. There was a lot of wasted potential, more or less.
User avatar #169 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I sometimes do haha c:

That's true. Also Sakura took the easy option by becoming the apprentice of the only available sannin after Naruto had took off with Jiraiya and Sasuke with Orochimaru. Just because she was on Team 7 she was given that oppurtunity although I can't fault her chakra control with that being necessary to work under tsunade.

I didn't particularly care for Anko but I was sad Tenten was forgotten about, it's cruel that it's a fact she gets less screentime than Tonton and for her not to get the oppurtunity to become Tsunade's apprentice was even crueler.

I probably worded that wrong, I meant the konoha 12 were friends, Shikamaru, Choji and Kiba were friends with Naruto, since Ino was always with Shikamaru and Choji, Sakura was always with them and so forth. I agree with the rest.

It was stated as a fact by Kishi that Ino would've won had Naruto not interfered but yes it's stupid but that's Kishi for you.

Yeah that's what I was refering to, I'd still say it counted, like I said, she was useless when she did it but it affected Naruto alot after he realised he hurt her.

I guess that's true but Minato's and Kushina's relationship was similar, the amount of time's she punched Minato or got all Red Habanero on him. Whenever Naruto is with Sakura he shrinks back a bit just like Minato did with Kushina. I'm not saying its a good relationship or a good thing, I'm just comparing the relationships.

I completely agree with the last two paragraphs haha
#176 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
Sakura's chakra control was only good because she had very little chakra to work with. I've said it on other posts, but it's not very impressive to be able to control a bottle of water compared to controlling a lake like the rest of the group. Or an ocean, in Naruto's case, though Kyuubi did most of that I think.

Anko's plot device of being Orochimaru's apprentice was something I wanted to have appear to help Sasuke "work through the darkness" so to speak. Being the only one who can resist the seal, despite its power, felt important... But it went no where. Plus she could have trained Sakura in poison arts or something, you know? Poor Tenten got the worst of it though, especially with how they kept teasing us. Like her getting those Sage Weapons and just... doing nothing with them.

I don't think they were really "Friends", you know? They got in trouble a lot, but Naruto never hung out with them outside of school. They just happened to be together because none of them could put up the effort in school, so Iruka scolded them together. Ino and Sakura weren't really part of that anyways. Ino only knew Chouji and Shikamaru personally because she was 'forced' into family dinners, since their fathers were teammates in the past.

I still feel like the Inner sakura thing would have been the reason she didn't win, but like I said, it was an aspect of Naruto supporting her that made Inner Sakura pop out. I think him saying that was just an excuse so he didn't have to worry about people questioning him about the 'inner.'

I get that she tried to help, but... I dunno. Doesn't really +1 her for me.

Minato and Naruto are different, though. Minato was... not as loud as Naruto, he needed someone to push him forward I think. He was just a quiet and rather casual genius of space-time seals... Though to be honest the whole idea of him just casually knowing the perfect way to seal the Kyuubi perfectly was always sketchy to me. But anyways, I think that suited him because he needed to be pushed. Naruto needs to be held back.

Kushi is still a bad character though, in my books.

But yeah, I mean... Sakura had great potential and I think all the characters, specially poor Tenten, had just been shoved to the side for 'bigger' characters. It's a shame, but what can you do?
User avatar #181 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
Great comparison, was about to say that Naruto has poor chakra control then I saw you wrote about Kyuubi haha

I think Kishi wrote off anko for helping Sasuke because he wanted him to become as dark as possible but who knows, he probably just forgot about her. Kin and Gin's weapons took alot out of Tenten but I think with time she would've been able to manage to use them efficiently, it's a shame she wasn't shown to develop or anything.

Shikaku was actually the only parent to tell Shikamaru that if he wanted to be friends with Naruto then he could, he never told Shikamaru to stay away from Naruto so they actually became friends. I'd still say InoShikaCho were friends obviously Shikamaru and Choji were closer but Ino still played and trained with them.

True.

I agree I'd still argue MinaKushi being closer to NaruSaku than NaruHina but arguably Hinata is closer to Minato whilst Naruto is so similar to his mother.

I actually love Kushina's character, she's one of the only kunoichi I actually like haha.

I agree she was wasted potential. It's quite a big issue with large shounen anime, too many side characters get created and just get dismissed after they've been used, that's why I love about Eiichiro Oda's writing, he manages to create such a large cast and still manages to reincorporate the majority of his side characters back into the main story.
#183 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
I don't have much to add on about most of what you said, but...

I personally loved Tayuya's character and Kushina + Sakura are my least favorite. And Shikamaru was too lazy to really be Naruto's friend, I think.

But the big thing about Oda compared to Kishi is that Oda wrote down most of One Piece's plot, from what I've been told Kishi just kind of made it up on the spot, like with the Ichibi and Kyuubi thing I mentioned just being completely made up after the two characters were created rather than before hand.

It's weird, but Naruto's idea may have been better off in the hands of some other writer after Kishi laid down the starting ground.
User avatar #196 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
i see! haha sorry, the first person to really acknowledge him was hinata and that is why i liked her from the start of the show, because no matter what her parents said or her other classmates she still wanted to be like him and help him, so in my opinion she rocks and im glad that it was her and naruto who ended up getting married, especially because she acts a lot like minato and he was one of my favorite characters.
User avatar #194 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
nooo, shikamaru stated that he'd follow naruto anywhere and in the war he said that he couldnt die since he would help naruto become hokage and help him do his work and what not
#195 - bluemagebrilly (02/17/2015) [-]
No, no, I meant back when they were kids. Not later on.
User avatar #187 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
There were barely any strong female characters to me, even Tsunade a kunoichi at hokage level is still considerably weaker than the other hokage and other male characters.

I like Konan but I think her potential was slightly wasted, still a good character though. I really liked Kushina, she toned down quite a lot as she got older which was nice to see too, she really fitted Minato. The only other kunoichi I can say I liked was Tenten and Ino because of how hard she worked, I remember reading a fact on her that she worked hardest out of any female, it changed my opinion of her.

I think pre-plotting is the best way to go about writing manga, Oda manages to slowly puzzle all aspects of the manga, you go through one arc or hear one thing and think what's that got to do with anything then about 300 episodes later you realise it fits in with something else. Despite being so long I don't think I'll ever get bored of One Piece due to Oda's writing. Kishi seemed to be writing Naruto half assed and created so many plot holes, I agree it may've been better off.

In regards to what you said about Minato sealing the Kyuubi before, it was said after he got with Kushina he visited the Uzumaki's and learned many fuinjutsu considering they were the best at fuinjutsu apparently, which "explains" how he's so good at sealing jutsu.
#188 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
Tayuya was strong, just had a bad match up in the forest against Temari. She almost beat Shikamaru, after all. Sort of in the same boat with Tenten, to be honest. Temari got matched up against them and was such a poor match up that it knocked them out of the plot.

Konan was pretty wasted, she didn't really do anything up until Nagato died. Which was a shame since they never really addressed the fact that she could turn into paper. I didn't like Kushina at all though, she was just another default angry female character to me.

Yeah, Oda even has plans that we're not aware of going on and they're likely to show up and completely destroy what we thought was real. I'm fully expecting Luffy to actually lose a fight hard soon, probably after Dofla is dealt with.

I think it was said Minato knew how to move really really fast before he got involved with Kushina though. I could be wrong about that, but the 'Thunder God' technique was a sealing Jutsu mixed with space-time Ninjutsu or something like that.

I get that he could know seals like the 'Death Demon Seal' or whatever, but it just felt way too perfect he had the best seal at hand. It also felt weird that he'd split the power of the Kyuubi, which is crap in my opinion and makes more plot holes, but... It just felt too perfect. Too planned, I guess. Plus he could have just sealed the Kyuubi back in his wife, but he refused.

Meh, I dunno. <(' '<)
User avatar #184 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
Thanks for using another comparison.

I get loads of mentions from you.
User avatar #186 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
>>#185

It's ok, I like it
#185 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
I don't.. I even like... tried to not.

I tried to not.

It just... It just happens. ;-;
User avatar #177 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
Thanks a lot for using a comparison, hope you have a good day.
#178 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
... One day you will be compared to someone who does not compare things!

And then you will explode!
User avatar #179 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
Impossible!
User avatar #157 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
i like the way you think!! sakura was a good character and all but i liked hinata more because she was there for naruto more than anyone else was, especially against pain, without her everyone would have probably died, and when you reach the 4th shinobi war thats where you can see that people know hinata loves naruto, because neji tells naruto that her life is in his hands meaning that she loves him so much shed do anything for him, so they kind of developed the love story but they should have done a little more with it
#160 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
They definitely should have done more, I agree. But it's silly to say they didn't have anything, you know?

Naruto is just like... the icon of "wasted potential." Thankfully the show has fans for that, but it still would have been nice to see the show in the hands of someone like... like Oda, who planned everything in One Piece ahead of time rather than making it up on the spot.
User avatar #192 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
true that i actually just started watching fairy tale, one piece and death note
User avatar #144 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
i see yeah they should have developed it a tad more, like had more episodes with hinata and naruto to make it seem more real, but i guess thats what theyre doing in the new movie theyre showing what actually happened and its not like naruto falls straight into love, from my understanding the movie goes over a 2 year course or something like that and shows hinata and him grow together more and more
User avatar #145 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I agree and yeah thats true, I can see how Naruto fell in love but it just seems a little far fetched, I don't mind NaruHina but I just think Sakura would've fit better.
User avatar #151 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
true then you got to think about sasuke its just one big cluster fuck, the guy who created it should have added a few filler episodes with a more romantic touch to them so you can see why the characters did what they did and fell for whoever they are with
User avatar #155 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
That's why I hate SasuSaku more than NaruHina because:
>Sasuke was portrayed as emotionless and incapable of compassion or love throughout 90% of the anime
>He's tried to kill Sakura many times so why would he suddenly fall in love with her?
>In addition to trying to kill her, abandoning her many times and treating her like shit, how could Sakura still love him?
>In parts of the manga she was actually shown almost falling for Naruto, if her love for Sasuke wavered then did she truly love him?
>Sasuke had no interest in love shown with both Sakura and Karin, what changed?

It honestly makes no sense and it's completely understandable the majority of the fans would be mad
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User avatar #110 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
Bleach is really good but it has alot of filler, if you want to watch without the filler then use bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Episodes it tells you which episodes are normal, filler, omake etc
User avatar #111 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
thanks man, i take it you watched naruto, when i got to shippuden i was getting upset because there were so many damn fillers and im still upset since there is like 20 episodes left so ill have to wait till juneish until theyre done with the anime then i can watch the last movie
User avatar #114 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
no problem, yeah I have, the fillers are frustrating, Naruto fillers weren't too bad because they were fairly funny and fitted the story but naruto shippuden fillers are just so bad and out of place.
User avatar #115 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
agreed, but im glad how naruto ends, im also happy theyre doing a movie to show what happens after the war, and also im glad that theyre doing another movie about narutos son, and another 1-3 seasons of naruto too
User avatar #117 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I didn't particularly like the ending but ah well and same x 3
User avatar #120 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
what about the ending did you not like? Im just glad naruto and hinata got together in the show and that lee is still alive haha
User avatar #132 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I disliked the fact Naruto & Hinata got together and REALLYdislike the fact Sasuke & Sakura ended up together
User avatar #133 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
WHYY!!!?? i wanted naruto and hinata to get together because sakura only put naruto down and hinata only wanted the best for naruto and even save his life against pain, so in my book im glad it was those two!
User avatar #139 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I really don't like Hinata as a character, she had so much potential but she ended up being there just for Naruto, the only time she was ever shown was for Naruto's purpose, she's soulless and without personality. Sakura, although I don't particularly like her, actually has a character, she's strong and has a life outside of supporting Naruto. I don't see how Naruto, after loving Sakura since he was around the age of 8 (8/9 years) could suddenly fall in love with Hinata who he barely noticed.
#152 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
Sakura mentioned. Swell with uselessness.

I don't really understand what you mean by Sakura having character or being strong. She didn't really do anything but whine and complain for 90% of the first half of the show. She was just there to be there, just like you're accusing Hinata of. Her 'life' was just Sasuke this, Sasuke that, up until the middle of the Chuunin exam where she actually did something.

But that fell off, along with many other plot devices, and she became useless again. Up until the fight with Sasori where she acted as someone's puppet rather than actually showing she got strong herself. Only thing she does is break a few puppets and rocks for the rest of Shippuden. Only 'good' thing she did was try to kill Sasuke, but she failed that too and it was dumb of her to try and do that alone anyways.

Anywho, I'd blame Kishi's writing style after the Shippuden started for how you feel about Hinata being a "souless" character. Most of the side characters were kind of pushed to the side after that. It was all about Naruto, Sasuke, and the super powerful characters. The rest were just kind of fodder and only appeared to do anything when they needed to.

Another thing you mentioned is how Naruto 'loved' Sakura, but he didn't. Just wanted attention from her and found her attractive, for some reason, when he was 12. She was super abusive, but he was needy for a friend at that point. Her staying as his 'target of affection' was just Kishi not knowing what to do with that.

Plus, it's not like Hinata / Naruto didn't have that whole thing where he stuck up for her against Neji and basically only won against the guy because of how much he wanted to prove to Neji that he, and Hinata by proxy, could beat a 'genius.' The plot device was dropped after that, as said before, but it did happen.

Plus Hinata appeared with Naruto twice in Shippuden and supported him when he really needed it. Considering his character, it seems fine to me that it stuck to him more than Sakura punching him on the head.

Anywho... I'd say just blame Kishi.
User avatar #164 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
Like I said before, I don't actually like Sakura but I prefer her to Hinata.

When I say character I mean she existed outside of Naruto and Sasuke after the first part of the anime, she became a singular character in shippuden.

She was definitely useless for the majority of the anime although towards the end and in the shinobi war I can't disagree she wasn't useful, she is only second to Tsunade as a medic ninja and is one of the only strong female ninja (For some reason Kishi doesn't create many strong female shinobi).

I do believe Naruto genuinely loved Sakura but to begin with only "loved her" because she liked Sasuke and like you said found her attractive and wanted her attention. I said from the age of 8 because they were all friends at that point, he started liking Sakura around the same time she liked Sasuke which is shown in an episode when they were both quite young. It could be just as easily said Naruto didn't love Hinata as shown in the The Last, Sakura is shown pushing the pair together saying to Naruto things like "You never really loved me, you just liked me because Sasuke liked me", at one point Hinata even questions why Sakura is helping her so much when she had no such reason. However I do believe towards the end of the movie, Naruto genuinely loved Hinata, I just think the transition was poorly written.

I do believe Hinata & Naruto have had their moments like you said but he also stuck up for Sakura against Ino during the chunnin exams which is the only reason Sakura beat Ino, because of Naruto's support from the side lines.

Sakura tried to save Naruto at times like when he started transforming into the 9 tails and managed a few tailed cloak, Sakura ran to stop him but yet again she was useless and just got hurt.

Hinata was much more effective and better at supporting Naruto, I can't deny that.

Lastly, I believe Sakura fitted the mould for Naruto's gf/wife better, she has many characteristics similar to Kushina, Minato even stated Sakura reminded him of Kushina.

Kishi's writing really went down hill, the only reason I believe all that above is down to the way he put things across but after all it's his manga and what he says goes.
#165 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
I prefer useful characters, even if they don't show up too often. <(' '<)

She was the only 'singular' character because she was in their team. If it was anyone else, they would have got the same thing. That's practically the reason she got to be Tsunade's apprentice over Hinata or Tenten who had more potential with it. She knew Naruto, and that's all that mattered.

That was just his thing, he forgot about all of the side characters he made, especially the female ones. Like Anko and Tenten.

They weren't friends, you know? Sakura hated the kid because of her parents and because of her obsession with Sasuke. They were never really "Friends" up until the Wave Arc. Sakura just found Naruto really annoying up until then. I haven't seen the movie, but honestly I'd take what that says with a grain of salt in regards to how Naruto and Sakura were back then. Kishi has forgotten his roots.

Sakura beating Ino with Naurto's support is a bit of a stretch, don't you think? I mean, it was an aspect, but that 'Inner Sakura' thing, which was randomly dropped as well, is the real reason she won. And he didn't go punch Ino in the face for tying with Sakura, either.

You mean when he went 4 tails? I don't really know if that counts as anything. <(' '<) She did just get smacked around. Could have tried to grab him with a tree or something... I dunno.

I think Sakura would have been great support if she could learn how to do something other than smack him in the back of the head.

I completely disagree. Naruto needed someone to offset his loudness, not match him. Someone who could help him settle down and think instead of rushing off ahead. If Sakura was going to be his wife, they'd just yell a lot and Sakura would end up punching Naruto. Abusive relationships aren't good, no matter how much anime tries to play it off.

And Kushina was an awful character anyways, way too angry and abusive just like Sakura. That character lost a lot of points for me when I found out she practically tortured Kyuubi with the chains that made up her seal. Demon or not, that's not cool, especially when the fox had already been tortured by Madara/Hashirama/Mito.

I do agree his writing went down hill and I think it's because he just kind of forgot what he was trying to make at first. It was about 'Ninja' at first, but then it was about the Sage and demons. Originally, the Ichibi and Kyuubi had no connection to each other, besides both being demons sealed inside children.

That's why the Ichibi is so different from the rest, since he was made before the idea of them being connected was put into play. Kyuubi is just based off a Kitsune. There was a lot of wasted potential, more or less.
User avatar #169 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I sometimes do haha c:

That's true. Also Sakura took the easy option by becoming the apprentice of the only available sannin after Naruto had took off with Jiraiya and Sasuke with Orochimaru. Just because she was on Team 7 she was given that oppurtunity although I can't fault her chakra control with that being necessary to work under tsunade.

I didn't particularly care for Anko but I was sad Tenten was forgotten about, it's cruel that it's a fact she gets less screentime than Tonton and for her not to get the oppurtunity to become Tsunade's apprentice was even crueler.

I probably worded that wrong, I meant the konoha 12 were friends, Shikamaru, Choji and Kiba were friends with Naruto, since Ino was always with Shikamaru and Choji, Sakura was always with them and so forth. I agree with the rest.

It was stated as a fact by Kishi that Ino would've won had Naruto not interfered but yes it's stupid but that's Kishi for you.

Yeah that's what I was refering to, I'd still say it counted, like I said, she was useless when she did it but it affected Naruto alot after he realised he hurt her.

I guess that's true but Minato's and Kushina's relationship was similar, the amount of time's she punched Minato or got all Red Habanero on him. Whenever Naruto is with Sakura he shrinks back a bit just like Minato did with Kushina. I'm not saying its a good relationship or a good thing, I'm just comparing the relationships.

I completely agree with the last two paragraphs haha
#176 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
Sakura's chakra control was only good because she had very little chakra to work with. I've said it on other posts, but it's not very impressive to be able to control a bottle of water compared to controlling a lake like the rest of the group. Or an ocean, in Naruto's case, though Kyuubi did most of that I think.

Anko's plot device of being Orochimaru's apprentice was something I wanted to have appear to help Sasuke "work through the darkness" so to speak. Being the only one who can resist the seal, despite its power, felt important... But it went no where. Plus she could have trained Sakura in poison arts or something, you know? Poor Tenten got the worst of it though, especially with how they kept teasing us. Like her getting those Sage Weapons and just... doing nothing with them.

I don't think they were really "Friends", you know? They got in trouble a lot, but Naruto never hung out with them outside of school. They just happened to be together because none of them could put up the effort in school, so Iruka scolded them together. Ino and Sakura weren't really part of that anyways. Ino only knew Chouji and Shikamaru personally because she was 'forced' into family dinners, since their fathers were teammates in the past.

I still feel like the Inner sakura thing would have been the reason she didn't win, but like I said, it was an aspect of Naruto supporting her that made Inner Sakura pop out. I think him saying that was just an excuse so he didn't have to worry about people questioning him about the 'inner.'

I get that she tried to help, but... I dunno. Doesn't really +1 her for me.

Minato and Naruto are different, though. Minato was... not as loud as Naruto, he needed someone to push him forward I think. He was just a quiet and rather casual genius of space-time seals... Though to be honest the whole idea of him just casually knowing the perfect way to seal the Kyuubi perfectly was always sketchy to me. But anyways, I think that suited him because he needed to be pushed. Naruto needs to be held back.

Kushi is still a bad character though, in my books.

But yeah, I mean... Sakura had great potential and I think all the characters, specially poor Tenten, had just been shoved to the side for 'bigger' characters. It's a shame, but what can you do?
User avatar #181 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
Great comparison, was about to say that Naruto has poor chakra control then I saw you wrote about Kyuubi haha

I think Kishi wrote off anko for helping Sasuke because he wanted him to become as dark as possible but who knows, he probably just forgot about her. Kin and Gin's weapons took alot out of Tenten but I think with time she would've been able to manage to use them efficiently, it's a shame she wasn't shown to develop or anything.

Shikaku was actually the only parent to tell Shikamaru that if he wanted to be friends with Naruto then he could, he never told Shikamaru to stay away from Naruto so they actually became friends. I'd still say InoShikaCho were friends obviously Shikamaru and Choji were closer but Ino still played and trained with them.

True.

I agree I'd still argue MinaKushi being closer to NaruSaku than NaruHina but arguably Hinata is closer to Minato whilst Naruto is so similar to his mother.

I actually love Kushina's character, she's one of the only kunoichi I actually like haha.

I agree she was wasted potential. It's quite a big issue with large shounen anime, too many side characters get created and just get dismissed after they've been used, that's why I love about Eiichiro Oda's writing, he manages to create such a large cast and still manages to reincorporate the majority of his side characters back into the main story.
#183 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
I don't have much to add on about most of what you said, but...

I personally loved Tayuya's character and Kushina + Sakura are my least favorite. And Shikamaru was too lazy to really be Naruto's friend, I think.

But the big thing about Oda compared to Kishi is that Oda wrote down most of One Piece's plot, from what I've been told Kishi just kind of made it up on the spot, like with the Ichibi and Kyuubi thing I mentioned just being completely made up after the two characters were created rather than before hand.

It's weird, but Naruto's idea may have been better off in the hands of some other writer after Kishi laid down the starting ground.
User avatar #196 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
i see! haha sorry, the first person to really acknowledge him was hinata and that is why i liked her from the start of the show, because no matter what her parents said or her other classmates she still wanted to be like him and help him, so in my opinion she rocks and im glad that it was her and naruto who ended up getting married, especially because she acts a lot like minato and he was one of my favorite characters.
User avatar #194 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
nooo, shikamaru stated that he'd follow naruto anywhere and in the war he said that he couldnt die since he would help naruto become hokage and help him do his work and what not
#195 - bluemagebrilly (02/17/2015) [-]
No, no, I meant back when they were kids. Not later on.
User avatar #187 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
There were barely any strong female characters to me, even Tsunade a kunoichi at hokage level is still considerably weaker than the other hokage and other male characters.

I like Konan but I think her potential was slightly wasted, still a good character though. I really liked Kushina, she toned down quite a lot as she got older which was nice to see too, she really fitted Minato. The only other kunoichi I can say I liked was Tenten and Ino because of how hard she worked, I remember reading a fact on her that she worked hardest out of any female, it changed my opinion of her.

I think pre-plotting is the best way to go about writing manga, Oda manages to slowly puzzle all aspects of the manga, you go through one arc or hear one thing and think what's that got to do with anything then about 300 episodes later you realise it fits in with something else. Despite being so long I don't think I'll ever get bored of One Piece due to Oda's writing. Kishi seemed to be writing Naruto half assed and created so many plot holes, I agree it may've been better off.

In regards to what you said about Minato sealing the Kyuubi before, it was said after he got with Kushina he visited the Uzumaki's and learned many fuinjutsu considering they were the best at fuinjutsu apparently, which "explains" how he's so good at sealing jutsu.
#188 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
Tayuya was strong, just had a bad match up in the forest against Temari. She almost beat Shikamaru, after all. Sort of in the same boat with Tenten, to be honest. Temari got matched up against them and was such a poor match up that it knocked them out of the plot.

Konan was pretty wasted, she didn't really do anything up until Nagato died. Which was a shame since they never really addressed the fact that she could turn into paper. I didn't like Kushina at all though, she was just another default angry female character to me.

Yeah, Oda even has plans that we're not aware of going on and they're likely to show up and completely destroy what we thought was real. I'm fully expecting Luffy to actually lose a fight hard soon, probably after Dofla is dealt with.

I think it was said Minato knew how to move really really fast before he got involved with Kushina though. I could be wrong about that, but the 'Thunder God' technique was a sealing Jutsu mixed with space-time Ninjutsu or something like that.

I get that he could know seals like the 'Death Demon Seal' or whatever, but it just felt way too perfect he had the best seal at hand. It also felt weird that he'd split the power of the Kyuubi, which is crap in my opinion and makes more plot holes, but... It just felt too perfect. Too planned, I guess. Plus he could have just sealed the Kyuubi back in his wife, but he refused.

Meh, I dunno. <(' '<)
User avatar #184 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
Thanks for using another comparison.

I get loads of mentions from you.
User avatar #186 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
>>#185

It's ok, I like it
#185 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
I don't.. I even like... tried to not.

I tried to not.

It just... It just happens. ;-;
User avatar #177 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
Thanks a lot for using a comparison, hope you have a good day.
#178 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
... One day you will be compared to someone who does not compare things!

And then you will explode!
User avatar #179 - compared (02/16/2015) [-]
Impossible!
User avatar #157 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
i like the way you think!! sakura was a good character and all but i liked hinata more because she was there for naruto more than anyone else was, especially against pain, without her everyone would have probably died, and when you reach the 4th shinobi war thats where you can see that people know hinata loves naruto, because neji tells naruto that her life is in his hands meaning that she loves him so much shed do anything for him, so they kind of developed the love story but they should have done a little more with it
#160 - bluemagebrilly (02/16/2015) [-]
They definitely should have done more, I agree. But it's silly to say they didn't have anything, you know?

Naruto is just like... the icon of "wasted potential." Thankfully the show has fans for that, but it still would have been nice to see the show in the hands of someone like... like Oda, who planned everything in One Piece ahead of time rather than making it up on the spot.
User avatar #192 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
true that i actually just started watching fairy tale, one piece and death note
User avatar #144 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
i see yeah they should have developed it a tad more, like had more episodes with hinata and naruto to make it seem more real, but i guess thats what theyre doing in the new movie theyre showing what actually happened and its not like naruto falls straight into love, from my understanding the movie goes over a 2 year course or something like that and shows hinata and him grow together more and more
User avatar #145 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
I agree and yeah thats true, I can see how Naruto fell in love but it just seems a little far fetched, I don't mind NaruHina but I just think Sakura would've fit better.
User avatar #151 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
true then you got to think about sasuke its just one big cluster fuck, the guy who created it should have added a few filler episodes with a more romantic touch to them so you can see why the characters did what they did and fell for whoever they are with
User avatar #155 - ichigoichie (02/16/2015) [-]
That's why I hate SasuSaku more than NaruHina because:
>Sasuke was portrayed as emotionless and incapable of compassion or love throughout 90% of the anime
>He's tried to kill Sakura many times so why would he suddenly fall in love with her?
>In addition to trying to kill her, abandoning her many times and treating her like shit, how could Sakura still love him?
>In parts of the manga she was actually shown almost falling for Naruto, if her love for Sasuke wavered then did she truly love him?
>Sasuke had no interest in love shown with both Sakura and Karin, what changed?

It honestly makes no sense and it's completely understandable the majority of the fans would be mad
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User avatar #119 - Furubatsu (02/16/2015) [-]
Manga, anime's have way too many filler/fan-service arcs for my personal liking
User avatar #121 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
i see, yeah i just skipped the fillers. did you like how the show ended?
User avatar #122 - thatonetyler (02/16/2015) [-]
how it ended
User avatar #189 - Furubatsu (02/16/2015) [-]
it was interesting, some of the jobs/lives/couples at the end seemed really left-field but otherwise nothing to complain about
User avatar #191 - thatonetyler (02/17/2015) [-]
well the new movie is going to show how it all happened so im excited for june
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