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User avatar #354 - grasman (04/29/2014) [-]
In my opinion this must happen before we can have a reasonable society:
- Remove monetary system or at least reform it.
So, that each country has it's own currency again.
In the age of digital payment this wouldn't be such a big problem as it first seems.
However, the most important thing is that banks aren't private organisations anymore.
Seriously, who ever thought that would be a good idea?
Well, the official statement is that they must be private to ensure their independence, but it effectively makes them profit oriented companies.
And for an institution that controls and regulates our money that's really, really bad. XD
- Remove religions
Religions can give some trust and help people, but if it regularly appears in the media and is unavoidable even by people who aren't interested in religion in the slightest, then it's bullshit.
And what is this shit with religion classes in school? Why do we have that obligation?
I have no problem if everybody exercises his/her religion at home.
But keep it the fuck away from the media and school.
- Remove Military
Military is a big problem.
As long as there is military there is power.
I don't see how we could convince every country to deconstruct their military and their structures for weapon development.
User avatar #353 - grasman (04/29/2014) [-]
Btw. I'm not hating to live in germany because of the history.
I mean why should I?
Effectively the history of my country has nothing to do with me.
I have mixed opinions about the history.
On the one hand the years 1933-45 were a total loss of humanity when viewed as a whole.
However, when you actually look up how germany way treated after the WWI it really was just a matter of time until something else would happen.

So, yes I got mixed feelings, not least because the jews are still suspect to me.
I mean if you look it up you will realize many of the big bankers are actually jews.
And it's no secret that america is doing everything for Israel.
Israel still gets money from us because of WWII, it's paid from our pension found.
And at the same time the minimum age for pension is getting higher and higher.

So, yeah that's that.

But to be honest I'm really not very optimistic for our society.
I think it will eventually end in a big war or a big revolution.
But I guess many will die in that act regardless of what will happen.
I highly doubt that the current drivers of the world will eventually be bored of it.
They will fight to keep their power.
#352 - taartislekker (04/29/2014) [-]
i think we should be proud of where we are now, think about where we came from as mankind, smashing each others heads in for most of history and being led by the most alpha males that had all the power and killed and fucked what they wanted to a highly civiliced society where everyone is equal and everyone can vote.
#348 - It might be a little difficult in America because of the 2 par…  [+] (6 new replies) 04/28/2014 on Why are we not funding this 0
User avatar #350 - grasman (04/28/2014) [-]
Just wanted to share this link here: www.themoneymasters.com/the-money-masters/famous-quotations-on-banking/

There are some really good quotes regarding the monetary system.
Actually I discovered this website during our conversation.
Many of them I didn't know myself until now.
User avatar #349 - grasman (04/28/2014) [-]
"Also there have been countles examples of people starting their own party to achieve something and succeeding."

I don't know a single one from germany.
Yes, that's where I live. Yes, I hate it. XD

We had some small parties here and there too.
But when the elections are coming up and after the votes are counted all you can see are the big parties, as they always existed.
None of the smaller parties where able to withstand a single year.

Well, ok. There's the "Piraten Partei" ... I guess you have them too, I believe I once saw a chart or something and that party actually spread over different countries. Or in other words equivalent parties were formed.

But what are they doing exactly? They don't even have complete plans for the unexpected case that they would gain the majority in the government.

The only big theory for a better political system I have ever read about was the "Venus Project". And that exists since the 1970s, so there you can see how far you get with good ideas for the masses XD.
#351 - taartislekker (04/29/2014) [-]
making massive changes in a democracy will take time and is a long process, history has taught us that. There are no revolotions but te tide changes gradually. your argument about the big parties that always stay big is not true for the netherlands te two biggest parties atm are both relatively new. we do however see that it takes time for a party to grow and develop into an organisation that is capable of running a country, but is this a bad thing? i think not.

the pirateparty may not be able to run a government but them existing can be a first step. In their current form they can control what the government does with regard to internet freedom and ring the bell if they don't like someone and if the majority agrees with them it will be a matter of time before the tides change and changes wil start coming, it will be a slow process but if the support is there evntually it will happen.

Regarding the venus project, i think it is an utopia that will not work in practice but its a nice idea. I think however that the animal spirit that is within al of us will prevent us from living togetyher in such a way (with no police army and no division of the world into countries).

I think you raise good points but i think its a shame you have such a negative view. you hate to live in Germany but you should realise that 90% of the world would happily change positions with you. Humans are animals that have a goal of reproducing and surviving, to do this we look for power and posessions that can help us survive and attract women. People will constantly try to be the monkey on the top of the hill. considering our nature and how we have been living in the past , and how the majority of africa and other third world areas live,
User avatar #354 - grasman (04/29/2014) [-]
In my opinion this must happen before we can have a reasonable society:
- Remove monetary system or at least reform it.
So, that each country has it's own currency again.
In the age of digital payment this wouldn't be such a big problem as it first seems.
However, the most important thing is that banks aren't private organisations anymore.
Seriously, who ever thought that would be a good idea?
Well, the official statement is that they must be private to ensure their independence, but it effectively makes them profit oriented companies.
And for an institution that controls and regulates our money that's really, really bad. XD
- Remove religions
Religions can give some trust and help people, but if it regularly appears in the media and is unavoidable even by people who aren't interested in religion in the slightest, then it's bullshit.
And what is this shit with religion classes in school? Why do we have that obligation?
I have no problem if everybody exercises his/her religion at home.
But keep it the fuck away from the media and school.
- Remove Military
Military is a big problem.
As long as there is military there is power.
I don't see how we could convince every country to deconstruct their military and their structures for weapon development.
User avatar #353 - grasman (04/29/2014) [-]
Btw. I'm not hating to live in germany because of the history.
I mean why should I?
Effectively the history of my country has nothing to do with me.
I have mixed opinions about the history.
On the one hand the years 1933-45 were a total loss of humanity when viewed as a whole.
However, when you actually look up how germany way treated after the WWI it really was just a matter of time until something else would happen.

So, yes I got mixed feelings, not least because the jews are still suspect to me.
I mean if you look it up you will realize many of the big bankers are actually jews.
And it's no secret that america is doing everything for Israel.
Israel still gets money from us because of WWII, it's paid from our pension found.
And at the same time the minimum age for pension is getting higher and higher.

So, yeah that's that.

But to be honest I'm really not very optimistic for our society.
I think it will eventually end in a big war or a big revolution.
But I guess many will die in that act regardless of what will happen.
I highly doubt that the current drivers of the world will eventually be bored of it.
They will fight to keep their power.
#352 - taartislekker (04/29/2014) [-]
i think we should be proud of where we are now, think about where we came from as mankind, smashing each others heads in for most of history and being led by the most alpha males that had all the power and killed and fucked what they wanted to a highly civiliced society where everyone is equal and everyone can vote.
#346 - If i was against it i could start a party, if other people in …  [+] (8 new replies) 04/28/2014 on Why are we not funding this 0
User avatar #347 - grasman (04/28/2014) [-]
Yeah in theory this stuff should be possible.
But I don't think it would be possible.
At some point the military industrial complex would just stop your movement, because it's inconvenient to them.

A new political system or direction is probably connected to changes in law.
Big companies don't want that shit. And the big companies are the ones that have all the power.

Obama doesn't have power.
Obama just gets his monthly payments from exxon, bp & co.
And his one and only job is to calm down the people and tell them "We will always be a AAA country."

In our society it doesn't matter what the 95% want.
It's always about what the 5% want.
The big companies, the established institutions, the whole monetary system and the bankers who drive it.

It's basically all bullshit, it's all a game that has little to nothing to do with reality or what humanity would need the most.
It's literally a big game, that looks far to complicated to understand on purpose.

“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and money system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
- Henry Ford

“Money is a new form of slavery, and distinguishable from the old simply by the fact that it is impersonal – that there is no human relation between master and slave.”
- Leo Tolstoy

I'm sure if one would try to form a movement and actually change something, it would be over before it even started.
#348 - taartislekker (04/28/2014) [-]
It might be a little difficult in America because of the 2 party system and the system where winners are chosen per state, so you can't really grow as a new party. the US is not a top democracy because of this, also there seems to be alot of influence from lobbies from big corporations that fund politicians and thus influence them, so i agree with you in the case of the US.

In my country however (the netherlands) the example i used in my previous post is s perfectly possible. You hardly need any money to set up a party and you don't need to rely on sugardaddy's (corporations or rich individuals) that can demand influence. als o we have a system with multiple parties, and the media is mostly independent (no media like fox that is very close with the republican party and practicly makes propaganda for them) . If the people support your views in my country no corporation, rich person or organisation will be able to stop you. Also there have been countles examples of people starting their own party to achieve something and succeeding.
User avatar #350 - grasman (04/28/2014) [-]
Just wanted to share this link here: www.themoneymasters.com/the-money-masters/famous-quotations-on-banking/

There are some really good quotes regarding the monetary system.
Actually I discovered this website during our conversation.
Many of them I didn't know myself until now.
User avatar #349 - grasman (04/28/2014) [-]
"Also there have been countles examples of people starting their own party to achieve something and succeeding."

I don't know a single one from germany.
Yes, that's where I live. Yes, I hate it. XD

We had some small parties here and there too.
But when the elections are coming up and after the votes are counted all you can see are the big parties, as they always existed.
None of the smaller parties where able to withstand a single year.

Well, ok. There's the "Piraten Partei" ... I guess you have them too, I believe I once saw a chart or something and that party actually spread over different countries. Or in other words equivalent parties were formed.

But what are they doing exactly? They don't even have complete plans for the unexpected case that they would gain the majority in the government.

The only big theory for a better political system I have ever read about was the "Venus Project". And that exists since the 1970s, so there you can see how far you get with good ideas for the masses XD.
#351 - taartislekker (04/29/2014) [-]
making massive changes in a democracy will take time and is a long process, history has taught us that. There are no revolotions but te tide changes gradually. your argument about the big parties that always stay big is not true for the netherlands te two biggest parties atm are both relatively new. we do however see that it takes time for a party to grow and develop into an organisation that is capable of running a country, but is this a bad thing? i think not.

the pirateparty may not be able to run a government but them existing can be a first step. In their current form they can control what the government does with regard to internet freedom and ring the bell if they don't like someone and if the majority agrees with them it will be a matter of time before the tides change and changes wil start coming, it will be a slow process but if the support is there evntually it will happen.

Regarding the venus project, i think it is an utopia that will not work in practice but its a nice idea. I think however that the animal spirit that is within al of us will prevent us from living togetyher in such a way (with no police army and no division of the world into countries).

I think you raise good points but i think its a shame you have such a negative view. you hate to live in Germany but you should realise that 90% of the world would happily change positions with you. Humans are animals that have a goal of reproducing and surviving, to do this we look for power and posessions that can help us survive and attract women. People will constantly try to be the monkey on the top of the hill. considering our nature and how we have been living in the past , and how the majority of africa and other third world areas live,
User avatar #354 - grasman (04/29/2014) [-]
In my opinion this must happen before we can have a reasonable society:
- Remove monetary system or at least reform it.
So, that each country has it's own currency again.
In the age of digital payment this wouldn't be such a big problem as it first seems.
However, the most important thing is that banks aren't private organisations anymore.
Seriously, who ever thought that would be a good idea?
Well, the official statement is that they must be private to ensure their independence, but it effectively makes them profit oriented companies.
And for an institution that controls and regulates our money that's really, really bad. XD
- Remove religions
Religions can give some trust and help people, but if it regularly appears in the media and is unavoidable even by people who aren't interested in religion in the slightest, then it's bullshit.
And what is this shit with religion classes in school? Why do we have that obligation?
I have no problem if everybody exercises his/her religion at home.
But keep it the fuck away from the media and school.
- Remove Military
Military is a big problem.
As long as there is military there is power.
I don't see how we could convince every country to deconstruct their military and their structures for weapon development.
User avatar #353 - grasman (04/29/2014) [-]
Btw. I'm not hating to live in germany because of the history.
I mean why should I?
Effectively the history of my country has nothing to do with me.
I have mixed opinions about the history.
On the one hand the years 1933-45 were a total loss of humanity when viewed as a whole.
However, when you actually look up how germany way treated after the WWI it really was just a matter of time until something else would happen.

So, yes I got mixed feelings, not least because the jews are still suspect to me.
I mean if you look it up you will realize many of the big bankers are actually jews.
And it's no secret that america is doing everything for Israel.
Israel still gets money from us because of WWII, it's paid from our pension found.
And at the same time the minimum age for pension is getting higher and higher.

So, yeah that's that.

But to be honest I'm really not very optimistic for our society.
I think it will eventually end in a big war or a big revolution.
But I guess many will die in that act regardless of what will happen.
I highly doubt that the current drivers of the world will eventually be bored of it.
They will fight to keep their power.
#352 - taartislekker (04/29/2014) [-]
i think we should be proud of where we are now, think about where we came from as mankind, smashing each others heads in for most of history and being led by the most alpha males that had all the power and killed and fucked what they wanted to a highly civiliced society where everyone is equal and everyone can vote.
#300 - dude the us military is anywhere on this planet they have doze…  [+] (10 new replies) 04/23/2014 on Why are we not funding this +3
#345 - grasman (04/28/2014) [-]
So you had a chance to vote against the membership in the NATO?
Because in europe nobody asked for our opinions.
And I bet you weren't asked either.

The assholes are doing what they want anyways.
Democracy is the biggest lie of humanity until now.
#346 - taartislekker (04/28/2014) [-]
If i was against it i could start a party, if other people in my country would agree they would vote for me, my party would become part of the government and i could get my country out of the NATO. It is all possible, why is democracy a lie? the fact that no party has taken this view and nobody has started a political movement prove that people dont care and like the nato the way it is.

the part where you say: "where you asked about it?" doesnt make sense, off course i wasnt alsked, thats not how western democracy works. You vote for someone to represent yourself, someone that you will let speak for you, and that will negotiate on your behalf.

if you prefer a democracy based on refernda than nobody stops you to start a party and promote it. If you manage to get enough votes you can change the constitution and change the democratic system, thats the beauty of democracy! as long as you have fair elections and voters are rational and take informed decisions when voting (which is sadly not always the case) everybody has influence in their country and the assholes don't just do what they want (unless you are from an eastern european country where the leaders are corrupt assholes and democracy doesn't funtion properly)


User avatar #347 - grasman (04/28/2014) [-]
Yeah in theory this stuff should be possible.
But I don't think it would be possible.
At some point the military industrial complex would just stop your movement, because it's inconvenient to them.

A new political system or direction is probably connected to changes in law.
Big companies don't want that shit. And the big companies are the ones that have all the power.

Obama doesn't have power.
Obama just gets his monthly payments from exxon, bp & co.
And his one and only job is to calm down the people and tell them "We will always be a AAA country."

In our society it doesn't matter what the 95% want.
It's always about what the 5% want.
The big companies, the established institutions, the whole monetary system and the bankers who drive it.

It's basically all bullshit, it's all a game that has little to nothing to do with reality or what humanity would need the most.
It's literally a big game, that looks far to complicated to understand on purpose.

“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and money system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
- Henry Ford

“Money is a new form of slavery, and distinguishable from the old simply by the fact that it is impersonal – that there is no human relation between master and slave.”
- Leo Tolstoy

I'm sure if one would try to form a movement and actually change something, it would be over before it even started.
#348 - taartislekker (04/28/2014) [-]
It might be a little difficult in America because of the 2 party system and the system where winners are chosen per state, so you can't really grow as a new party. the US is not a top democracy because of this, also there seems to be alot of influence from lobbies from big corporations that fund politicians and thus influence them, so i agree with you in the case of the US.

In my country however (the netherlands) the example i used in my previous post is s perfectly possible. You hardly need any money to set up a party and you don't need to rely on sugardaddy's (corporations or rich individuals) that can demand influence. als o we have a system with multiple parties, and the media is mostly independent (no media like fox that is very close with the republican party and practicly makes propaganda for them) . If the people support your views in my country no corporation, rich person or organisation will be able to stop you. Also there have been countles examples of people starting their own party to achieve something and succeeding.
User avatar #350 - grasman (04/28/2014) [-]
Just wanted to share this link here: www.themoneymasters.com/the-money-masters/famous-quotations-on-banking/

There are some really good quotes regarding the monetary system.
Actually I discovered this website during our conversation.
Many of them I didn't know myself until now.
User avatar #349 - grasman (04/28/2014) [-]
"Also there have been countles examples of people starting their own party to achieve something and succeeding."

I don't know a single one from germany.
Yes, that's where I live. Yes, I hate it. XD

We had some small parties here and there too.
But when the elections are coming up and after the votes are counted all you can see are the big parties, as they always existed.
None of the smaller parties where able to withstand a single year.

Well, ok. There's the "Piraten Partei" ... I guess you have them too, I believe I once saw a chart or something and that party actually spread over different countries. Or in other words equivalent parties were formed.

But what are they doing exactly? They don't even have complete plans for the unexpected case that they would gain the majority in the government.

The only big theory for a better political system I have ever read about was the "Venus Project". And that exists since the 1970s, so there you can see how far you get with good ideas for the masses XD.
#351 - taartislekker (04/29/2014) [-]
making massive changes in a democracy will take time and is a long process, history has taught us that. There are no revolotions but te tide changes gradually. your argument about the big parties that always stay big is not true for the netherlands te two biggest parties atm are both relatively new. we do however see that it takes time for a party to grow and develop into an organisation that is capable of running a country, but is this a bad thing? i think not.

the pirateparty may not be able to run a government but them existing can be a first step. In their current form they can control what the government does with regard to internet freedom and ring the bell if they don't like someone and if the majority agrees with them it will be a matter of time before the tides change and changes wil start coming, it will be a slow process but if the support is there evntually it will happen.

Regarding the venus project, i think it is an utopia that will not work in practice but its a nice idea. I think however that the animal spirit that is within al of us will prevent us from living togetyher in such a way (with no police army and no division of the world into countries).

I think you raise good points but i think its a shame you have such a negative view. you hate to live in Germany but you should realise that 90% of the world would happily change positions with you. Humans are animals that have a goal of reproducing and surviving, to do this we look for power and posessions that can help us survive and attract women. People will constantly try to be the monkey on the top of the hill. considering our nature and how we have been living in the past , and how the majority of africa and other third world areas live,
User avatar #354 - grasman (04/29/2014) [-]
In my opinion this must happen before we can have a reasonable society:
- Remove monetary system or at least reform it.
So, that each country has it's own currency again.
In the age of digital payment this wouldn't be such a big problem as it first seems.
However, the most important thing is that banks aren't private organisations anymore.
Seriously, who ever thought that would be a good idea?
Well, the official statement is that they must be private to ensure their independence, but it effectively makes them profit oriented companies.
And for an institution that controls and regulates our money that's really, really bad. XD
- Remove religions
Religions can give some trust and help people, but if it regularly appears in the media and is unavoidable even by people who aren't interested in religion in the slightest, then it's bullshit.
And what is this shit with religion classes in school? Why do we have that obligation?
I have no problem if everybody exercises his/her religion at home.
But keep it the fuck away from the media and school.
- Remove Military
Military is a big problem.
As long as there is military there is power.
I don't see how we could convince every country to deconstruct their military and their structures for weapon development.
User avatar #353 - grasman (04/29/2014) [-]
Btw. I'm not hating to live in germany because of the history.
I mean why should I?
Effectively the history of my country has nothing to do with me.
I have mixed opinions about the history.
On the one hand the years 1933-45 were a total loss of humanity when viewed as a whole.
However, when you actually look up how germany way treated after the WWI it really was just a matter of time until something else would happen.

So, yes I got mixed feelings, not least because the jews are still suspect to me.
I mean if you look it up you will realize many of the big bankers are actually jews.
And it's no secret that america is doing everything for Israel.
Israel still gets money from us because of WWII, it's paid from our pension found.
And at the same time the minimum age for pension is getting higher and higher.

So, yeah that's that.

But to be honest I'm really not very optimistic for our society.
I think it will eventually end in a big war or a big revolution.
But I guess many will die in that act regardless of what will happen.
I highly doubt that the current drivers of the world will eventually be bored of it.
They will fight to keep their power.
#352 - taartislekker (04/29/2014) [-]
i think we should be proud of where we are now, think about where we came from as mankind, smashing each others heads in for most of history and being led by the most alpha males that had all the power and killed and fucked what they wanted to a highly civiliced society where everyone is equal and everyone can vote.
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