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#534 - Bad english? hardly. I do like some of the points you brought …  [+] (1 new reply) 10/26/2014 on Hopefully not unpopular here 0
#539 - monkeyheadbsc (10/26/2014) [-]
Oh, I thought about physical efficiency of the energy transformation process (nuclear to electrical energy). All the conventional power plants are not that efficient since they have to comply to Carnot effectivenes. But in nuclear energy, due to the fact that it typically has to water cycles, especially so. It's in the region of 30 to 40 % tops. That actually is a problem for the environment, because the dissipated heat is often pumped in rivers, which heat up and can fuck up the ecosystem.

On cost efficiency thet might be right. I didn't read the whole article, though. Here in germany wind energy is now cheaper than nuclear. Though of course there are other problems with it, which are currently being worked on.
#291 - It is unfortunate that I must not have clarified well enough f…  [+] (1 new reply) 10/25/2014 on Hopefully not unpopular here -1
User avatar #463 - stifflimb (10/25/2014) [-]
Oh please, drop that fucking condescending act.
Who knew you turn out to be such a fucking asshole.
We're talking about viable energy resources and your best counter argument is, nah our taxes wont allow us anything better than nuclear energy then I call comeplete and utter bullshit, especially since you apparently think all countries in the world got the exact same taxes.
The content of this is you are not able to support your claims against mine properly so you give up and tells me I need to get more knowledge about another subject not tied to the viability of the technology we discussed.

Stop looking down on people cause people wont look up to you, they will look away cause people can do without assholes.
#270 - Statement: "you can often see when those times are coming…  [+] (4 new replies) 10/25/2014 on Hopefully not unpopular here 0
#417 - anon (10/25/2014) [-]
statement: ur a fagit
true: u suck dick
User avatar #278 - stifflimb (10/25/2014) [-]
The same way people predict weather for future days!

That if goverments can spend those extremly vast amounts of money on military then they do have money to spend for better energy resources but they choose not too.

Cause you said it will only happen "taxes/subsidies/changes in supply/demand make wind a more cost effective", it will happen when it's demanded.

In a country the people have more power in deciding what will really be done than the goverment does, and except very poor countries and a few others, goverments do have money.

Where the fuck does electricity cost more than rent?!?!
And if it would it's cause there is a very high demand for it, wich in turn means there's demand for electricity generating devices such as wind power plant. So then there's a bigger supply of electricity and the demand lowers and the price of it does it aswell.
#291 - swordhoard (10/25/2014) [-]
It is unfortunate that I must not have clarified well enough for you to understand the concepts. I strongly urge you look into further reading on subsidies/taxes and their role in keeping certain types of energy barely viable (wind, solar, batteries, etc).
I will leave you with a last bit of parting advice though. You should learn more about the views you are advocating. If you were to present the same argument you presented to me to someone in that field. You would likely be dismissed before you finished your claim. I wish you the best of luck in your studies.
User avatar #463 - stifflimb (10/25/2014) [-]
Oh please, drop that fucking condescending act.
Who knew you turn out to be such a fucking asshole.
We're talking about viable energy resources and your best counter argument is, nah our taxes wont allow us anything better than nuclear energy then I call comeplete and utter bullshit, especially since you apparently think all countries in the world got the exact same taxes.
The content of this is you are not able to support your claims against mine properly so you give up and tells me I need to get more knowledge about another subject not tied to the viability of the technology we discussed.

Stop looking down on people cause people wont look up to you, they will look away cause people can do without assholes.
#243 - I can tell you now the cost of long term storage is not the ma…  [+] (1 new reply) 10/25/2014 on Hopefully not unpopular here +1
User avatar #302 - shadovfox (10/25/2014) [-]
I think nucleear waste is the biggest problem, but we get bigger, better and more secure locatioans as time go by, and we will eventualy find a proper way to dispose it aswell
#156 - Statement: Coastal wind turbines provide constant predictable …  [+] (6 new replies) 10/25/2014 on Hopefully not unpopular here 0
User avatar #177 - stifflimb (10/25/2014) [-]
I said more or less, yes even at coasts there are times there is little to no wind but you can often see when those times are coming before so you can prepare for it, if you gonna use what I write as statements at least get it right.

I brought that up cause you brought up the cost of these things.
However in the real world it happens when people make it happen, enough people pushing through for it forces goverments to invest in it even if they dont wanna.
The power is and always will be in with the people not the goverment.
And there is always a demand of energy and supply for wind power plants exist in vast amounts.
#270 - swordhoard (10/25/2014) [-]
Statement: "you can often see when those times are coming before so you can prepare for it..."
Could you please elaborate further on how this is accomplished?

Statement: "I brought that up cause you brought up the cost of these things."
I still do not see the relevance in comparing the size of military budget spending to justify the existence of money available to fund more sustainable practices. There are vast amounts of money put into research and subsidies in order to lower the cost of renewable energy practices. Until that happens, the cheapest product will be used.

Statement: "...enough people pushing through for it forces goverments to invest in it..."
There is already a tremendous amount of investment in sustainable resources due to its positive impact on the environment and push from public opinion. I fail to see the point of this statement.

Statement: "The power is and always will be in with the people not the goverment."
I hate to break it to you, but the people and the government have no power without money and the belief that their economy is stable. Ben Bernanke truthfully has far more power and influence than any president or government body.

Statement: "... always a demand of energy and supply for wind power plants exist in vast amounts."
Yes, the demand exists. But if I told you electricity now costs more than a months rent each billing period so the company can make the same profit as they did with coal. How will your morals about sustainability hold up? Could you convince enough people in this 'real world' of yours that a company would take the risk and offer an extremely noncompetitive price after spending an immense amount of money to implement? If you're stumped, the answer is no.

If you have any more questions, please ask. This is a good learning experience for others too.

#417 - anon (10/25/2014) [-]
statement: ur a fagit
true: u suck dick
User avatar #278 - stifflimb (10/25/2014) [-]
The same way people predict weather for future days!

That if goverments can spend those extremly vast amounts of money on military then they do have money to spend for better energy resources but they choose not too.

Cause you said it will only happen "taxes/subsidies/changes in supply/demand make wind a more cost effective", it will happen when it's demanded.

In a country the people have more power in deciding what will really be done than the goverment does, and except very poor countries and a few others, goverments do have money.

Where the fuck does electricity cost more than rent?!?!
And if it would it's cause there is a very high demand for it, wich in turn means there's demand for electricity generating devices such as wind power plant. So then there's a bigger supply of electricity and the demand lowers and the price of it does it aswell.
#291 - swordhoard (10/25/2014) [-]
It is unfortunate that I must not have clarified well enough for you to understand the concepts. I strongly urge you look into further reading on subsidies/taxes and their role in keeping certain types of energy barely viable (wind, solar, batteries, etc).
I will leave you with a last bit of parting advice though. You should learn more about the views you are advocating. If you were to present the same argument you presented to me to someone in that field. You would likely be dismissed before you finished your claim. I wish you the best of luck in your studies.
User avatar #463 - stifflimb (10/25/2014) [-]
Oh please, drop that fucking condescending act.
Who knew you turn out to be such a fucking asshole.
We're talking about viable energy resources and your best counter argument is, nah our taxes wont allow us anything better than nuclear energy then I call comeplete and utter bullshit, especially since you apparently think all countries in the world got the exact same taxes.
The content of this is you are not able to support your claims against mine properly so you give up and tells me I need to get more knowledge about another subject not tied to the viability of the technology we discussed.

Stop looking down on people cause people wont look up to you, they will look away cause people can do without assholes.
#103 - I agree with your distaste for his argument. I was also likely… 10/25/2014 on Hopefully not unpopular here 0
#98 - Engineering masters here to explain any and all questions you …  [+] (2 new replies) 10/25/2014 on Hopefully not unpopular here 0
#99 - kanedam (10/25/2014) [-]
thanks for the explanation. but its not like i dont know how it works.
i just found it stupid for that guy to argument like that... "if you are against it you just dont understand it". of course one can understand it and still be against it.

and from all i know (reviews, studies, interviews, and so on from people who worked in nuclear power plants) there is a big risk and there are several serious issues with the technology.
thats why i posted the question list in comment #95 when someone said they work in that field
#103 - swordhoard (10/25/2014) [-]
I agree with your distaste for his argument. I was also likely still typing my response when you posted your questions.

Unfortunately, I do not work at a plant, so I can't describe standard procedure to you (I don't know if they can either cause of company NDA). My specialty is in creating the metals to resist nuclear radiation for 60+ years and how to identify problem cracks/swelling that occurs from prolonged neutron bombardment.

Radiation exposure is strictly enforced (of that I can guarantee) with routine checks to keep exposure levels below a government standard. There are also several redundancies in place for systems to ensure proper readings/operation, ESPECIALLY regarding the nuclear poison rods. Concrete is used primarily in storage applications due to its ability to soak up radiation like a god but isn't very good at staying leakproof. Which is why they keep it as a lining.

Which tanks are you referring to in your third question? Leaks are an inevitable part as a plant ages, but they are identified quickly and dealt with. Waste storage varies significantly from plant to plant. But almost all involve dry cask storage until the waste is ready for reprocessing (depending on the degree of radioactivity).

If I missed anything major or you want more detail let me know!

#89 - Keep in mind how wind energy is received and stored. Just like…  [+] (8 new replies) 10/25/2014 on Hopefully not unpopular here 0
User avatar #126 - stifflimb (10/25/2014) [-]
Yes I'm aware of that, but there are places where there is more or less an constant surge of the energy, like at the coast, no not always but still very predictable.
Also I the issue with money I dont even wanna touch, cause putting money in priorety over sustainable energy is just pure stupid seeing how much money is put into military (and I know most of the modern inventions used by people do come from military research).
Creating in time vast amounts of waste that dont stop being dangerous for a couple of 10 thousand years is not very reliable either, putting it inside big moutains might sound good but we do not know what it will affect in all those years.
#156 - swordhoard (10/25/2014) [-]
Statement: Coastal wind turbines provide constant predictable electrical output.
False: Coastal wind supply is greater on average, but not constant. See graph (KWh generated over time).

Statement: sustainability should take priority over cost. (why even bring up military funding?)
True: However, in the real world it will only happen when taxes/subsidies/changes in supply/demand make wind a more cost effective means of energy generation.

Statement: Long storage times of nuclear waste is problematic and long-term effects are not well known.
True: No extremely viable means has been established for long term storage of nuclear waste. This is one primary reason we don't see nuclear plants everywhere.

Hopefully this clarifies some of the misconceptions surrounding the topic.
User avatar #177 - stifflimb (10/25/2014) [-]
I said more or less, yes even at coasts there are times there is little to no wind but you can often see when those times are coming before so you can prepare for it, if you gonna use what I write as statements at least get it right.

I brought that up cause you brought up the cost of these things.
However in the real world it happens when people make it happen, enough people pushing through for it forces goverments to invest in it even if they dont wanna.
The power is and always will be in with the people not the goverment.
And there is always a demand of energy and supply for wind power plants exist in vast amounts.
#270 - swordhoard (10/25/2014) [-]
Statement: "you can often see when those times are coming before so you can prepare for it..."
Could you please elaborate further on how this is accomplished?

Statement: "I brought that up cause you brought up the cost of these things."
I still do not see the relevance in comparing the size of military budget spending to justify the existence of money available to fund more sustainable practices. There are vast amounts of money put into research and subsidies in order to lower the cost of renewable energy practices. Until that happens, the cheapest product will be used.

Statement: "...enough people pushing through for it forces goverments to invest in it..."
There is already a tremendous amount of investment in sustainable resources due to its positive impact on the environment and push from public opinion. I fail to see the point of this statement.

Statement: "The power is and always will be in with the people not the goverment."
I hate to break it to you, but the people and the government have no power without money and the belief that their economy is stable. Ben Bernanke truthfully has far more power and influence than any president or government body.

Statement: "... always a demand of energy and supply for wind power plants exist in vast amounts."
Yes, the demand exists. But if I told you electricity now costs more than a months rent each billing period so the company can make the same profit as they did with coal. How will your morals about sustainability hold up? Could you convince enough people in this 'real world' of yours that a company would take the risk and offer an extremely noncompetitive price after spending an immense amount of money to implement? If you're stumped, the answer is no.

If you have any more questions, please ask. This is a good learning experience for others too.

#417 - anon (10/25/2014) [-]
statement: ur a fagit
true: u suck dick
User avatar #278 - stifflimb (10/25/2014) [-]
The same way people predict weather for future days!

That if goverments can spend those extremly vast amounts of money on military then they do have money to spend for better energy resources but they choose not too.

Cause you said it will only happen "taxes/subsidies/changes in supply/demand make wind a more cost effective", it will happen when it's demanded.

In a country the people have more power in deciding what will really be done than the goverment does, and except very poor countries and a few others, goverments do have money.

Where the fuck does electricity cost more than rent?!?!
And if it would it's cause there is a very high demand for it, wich in turn means there's demand for electricity generating devices such as wind power plant. So then there's a bigger supply of electricity and the demand lowers and the price of it does it aswell.
#291 - swordhoard (10/25/2014) [-]
It is unfortunate that I must not have clarified well enough for you to understand the concepts. I strongly urge you look into further reading on subsidies/taxes and their role in keeping certain types of energy barely viable (wind, solar, batteries, etc).
I will leave you with a last bit of parting advice though. You should learn more about the views you are advocating. If you were to present the same argument you presented to me to someone in that field. You would likely be dismissed before you finished your claim. I wish you the best of luck in your studies.
User avatar #463 - stifflimb (10/25/2014) [-]
Oh please, drop that fucking condescending act.
Who knew you turn out to be such a fucking asshole.
We're talking about viable energy resources and your best counter argument is, nah our taxes wont allow us anything better than nuclear energy then I call comeplete and utter bullshit, especially since you apparently think all countries in the world got the exact same taxes.
The content of this is you are not able to support your claims against mine properly so you give up and tells me I need to get more knowledge about another subject not tied to the viability of the technology we discussed.

Stop looking down on people cause people wont look up to you, they will look away cause people can do without assholes.
#87 - Engineering masters reporting in. Nuclear fuel is inc…  [+] (4 new replies) 10/25/2014 on Hopefully not unpopular here +8
#181 - anon (10/25/2014) [-]
The thing is, you probably could store the waste longterm and safe too. But no one wants to bear the cost of that. You would have to build (above ground) easy to inspect bunkers which are leak proof and so on. ofc you would have to inspect them too in intervals. No one who owns a nuclear powerplant wants to pay that cost...

In Germany they stuff the (not very active) waste into old salt domes. The big Problem is that it's underground, can't easily be relocated, potentially leaking (already btw) and close to groundwater... That's cheap but not a good solution.
#243 - swordhoard (10/25/2014) [-]
I can tell you now the cost of long term storage is not the main concern. We have placed billions of dollars in yucca alone and a tremendous amount more in research simply because a solution will pay it back in spades.

Regarding the easy to inspect and leakproof aspects of the storage; these are contradictory statements. You want your storage completely sealed from any access whatsoever for ideally thousands of years to contain the worst of the worst radioactive material. Fighting earthquakes, water seeping into storage containers/facility, thieves, etc is not a simple one and done solution.

If you're still interested in the topic I could pull some good papers to read that might elaborate better than I have.
User avatar #302 - shadovfox (10/25/2014) [-]
I think nucleear waste is the biggest problem, but we get bigger, better and more secure locatioans as time go by, and we will eventualy find a proper way to dispose it aswell
#90 - kolumkolum (10/25/2014) [-]
Engineering bachelor backing this comment!
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User avatar #11 - mcstorms (09/19/2014) [-]
love how accurate this is
#8 - ryles (09/19/2014) [-]
fuck now i cant unsee it 0.0
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