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#67 - naruhenix (06/14/2016) [-]
Ive actually never played but when i chill with my friend hes always playin it and no matter what character he is theres always a mei fuckin his game up with ice wall haha
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#74 - I have not read or studied the Quran, however I'm c…  [+] (2 new replies) 03/23/2016 on japan on terrorist attacks. -1
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#88 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
Also Jizya that you see in the suras and hadeeth on that website is the protection money i previously mentioned. In war the muslims would send out a messenger with a letter to the leader of the enemy greeting them, asking if they would accept islam. if not if they would accept jizya (protection money) if not the war would continue. Muslims didn't attack left and right, first they fought agains Quraish who tortured them before. After the muslims moved to madinah the jews fought them because the muslims where increasing and getting their own law. (mohammad and the leader of the jew tribes had an agreement that the muslims would fall under mohammads law and everyone else under the jews law) and because the shariah was much more free people would go to mohammads side and that made the jews attack the muslims. The muslims retaliated and took madinah, and a few years later meccah from the hands of quraish. Quraish went to other jew tribes and the jews went to the persians. So the persians attacked fearing the muslims would increase to much in size. During this the muslims where still growing and the romans jumped in. If you look at the numbers of the armies, the muslims where always fewer in numbers, there was 1 war where they where more in numbers and they lost that one against quraish. So it would be weird for a new formed country with fewer soldiers to attack innocent bigger countries all around them
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#83 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
These suras of the quran mostly are about their wars against quraish. for example:
"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion be only for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers."

This surah was sent down as a permission to fight quraish in mecca since mecca was a holy ground where fighting was forbidden. The website says"key note religion be only for allah"

This is wrong. The situation with quraish was that they knew that the islam was the true religion but still tortured the muslims because of greed and their high and noble position. So the muslims got permission from Allah to fight quraish in mecca, untill none of quraish was left (chasing them out) or they accepted islam. They real key note is: " But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers" which happened. Quraish ran away and the muslims stops fighting them and released all the prisoners since Quraish forfeit.


Second one is: `Are they seeking a religion other than Allah's, when every soul in the heavens and the earth has submitted to Him, willingly orby compulsion?`

This is a surah that talks about murted. So people that accepted islam and deviated from it for wealth, political position or because the muslims lost a war. A lot of people would become muslim when the muslim won a war, and deviate from islam when they would lose a war. So this surah is about them because deviating from islam is a major crime. This has nothing to do with non believers.

I can say that ALL of the suras written there are out of context. A lot of them are about the wars agains quraish, and we read them to understand the situation the muslims where in. for example:

"Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease (from disbelief) their past will be forgiven... And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do"

Fighting the fitnah. Fighting is not done only with the sword, but in multiple ways.
For example there was a poet in the time of the prophet muhammad, he would write and spread out poems talking against and belittling muhammad. Now what he does is Fitnah, but that does not mean that the muslims fought him with the sword and killed him. They simply silenced him trough bribery and pulled them over to the side of the muslims.

Fighting and things like Jihad are things that can be done multiple ways.
You can fight with the tongue, with your deeds (good manners etc) fighting with money (bribing) and with the sword etc. Jihad for example means "to struggle" you can do that with you health, wealth and familly, this does not mean that you kill and fight you familly. If you have jihad in health, that means that you are ill and are fighting/ struggling to beat the sickness.

sorry for my long text but i want to clear the misconception a lot of people have about islam. There are a lot of people that are doing things wrong naming themselves muslims. But please do not base the islam on those people. Truly islam does not enforce violence or anything. The only thing it teaches is, worship allah alone, spread out good and forbid evil.
#67 - I understand the history. But do you deny that Muslims during …  [+] (4 new replies) 03/23/2016 on japan on terrorist attacks. +2
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#69 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
I don't know about what the "muslims" do now with their prisoners, but I have studied the history of the prophet muhammad and the 4 khaliphs after him. The islam never really increased outisde of mecca and madina that much, just during the second khaliph the golden age of the muslims occured where they increased in size.

Coming to your comment, altought they DID take prisoners and slaves. Prisoners where the enemy soldiers and the slaves where the people, the slaves where shown the lifestyle of the muslims before setting them free. (showing them their way of life) after seeing this a lot of slaves rather continued staying slaves since slaves then where made with a contract. It was more of a made we have today. The prisoners could be bought free by the allies of the prisoners. And if they would accept islam they would be set free at once. THeir big enemys like quraish who tortured the muslims just for being muslims got killed. But there is no instance where the muslims forced the prisoners to be muslims. Because becoming a muslims you must testify with 100% dedication. You cant do that while forcing it. I can name every major war the moslims fought. If you have a particular war where it seems that the muslims forced islam then please let me know so i can look further into it.



Isis and those idiots you see today have nothing to do with islam nor are they acting like a muslims should during war.
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#74 - sovngarde (03/23/2016) [-]
www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/forced-conversion.aspx

I have not read or studied the Quran, however I'm curious as to if these texts are accurate or not. Also, during Muhammad's last years, did he not enforce a violent approach to Islam? Since you are Muslim, I would like your perspective.

I see you're very educated on this subject, so I'd like to apologize for my previous rashness.
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#88 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
Also Jizya that you see in the suras and hadeeth on that website is the protection money i previously mentioned. In war the muslims would send out a messenger with a letter to the leader of the enemy greeting them, asking if they would accept islam. if not if they would accept jizya (protection money) if not the war would continue. Muslims didn't attack left and right, first they fought agains Quraish who tortured them before. After the muslims moved to madinah the jews fought them because the muslims where increasing and getting their own law. (mohammad and the leader of the jew tribes had an agreement that the muslims would fall under mohammads law and everyone else under the jews law) and because the shariah was much more free people would go to mohammads side and that made the jews attack the muslims. The muslims retaliated and took madinah, and a few years later meccah from the hands of quraish. Quraish went to other jew tribes and the jews went to the persians. So the persians attacked fearing the muslims would increase to much in size. During this the muslims where still growing and the romans jumped in. If you look at the numbers of the armies, the muslims where always fewer in numbers, there was 1 war where they where more in numbers and they lost that one against quraish. So it would be weird for a new formed country with fewer soldiers to attack innocent bigger countries all around them
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#83 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
These suras of the quran mostly are about their wars against quraish. for example:
"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion be only for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers."

This surah was sent down as a permission to fight quraish in mecca since mecca was a holy ground where fighting was forbidden. The website says"key note religion be only for allah"

This is wrong. The situation with quraish was that they knew that the islam was the true religion but still tortured the muslims because of greed and their high and noble position. So the muslims got permission from Allah to fight quraish in mecca, untill none of quraish was left (chasing them out) or they accepted islam. They real key note is: " But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers" which happened. Quraish ran away and the muslims stops fighting them and released all the prisoners since Quraish forfeit.


Second one is: `Are they seeking a religion other than Allah's, when every soul in the heavens and the earth has submitted to Him, willingly orby compulsion?`

This is a surah that talks about murted. So people that accepted islam and deviated from it for wealth, political position or because the muslims lost a war. A lot of people would become muslim when the muslim won a war, and deviate from islam when they would lose a war. So this surah is about them because deviating from islam is a major crime. This has nothing to do with non believers.

I can say that ALL of the suras written there are out of context. A lot of them are about the wars agains quraish, and we read them to understand the situation the muslims where in. for example:

"Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease (from disbelief) their past will be forgiven... And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do"

Fighting the fitnah. Fighting is not done only with the sword, but in multiple ways.
For example there was a poet in the time of the prophet muhammad, he would write and spread out poems talking against and belittling muhammad. Now what he does is Fitnah, but that does not mean that the muslims fought him with the sword and killed him. They simply silenced him trough bribery and pulled them over to the side of the muslims.

Fighting and things like Jihad are things that can be done multiple ways.
You can fight with the tongue, with your deeds (good manners etc) fighting with money (bribing) and with the sword etc. Jihad for example means "to struggle" you can do that with you health, wealth and familly, this does not mean that you kill and fight you familly. If you have jihad in health, that means that you are ill and are fighting/ struggling to beat the sickness.

sorry for my long text but i want to clear the misconception a lot of people have about islam. There are a lot of people that are doing things wrong naming themselves muslims. But please do not base the islam on those people. Truly islam does not enforce violence or anything. The only thing it teaches is, worship allah alone, spread out good and forbid evil.
#59 - The only reason Islam spread was due to violence and war.  [+] (6 new replies) 03/23/2016 on japan on terrorist attacks. 0
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#64 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
I suggest you read into the history. The muslims got attacked and once they had a base of operations they retaliated. And even then they never enforced people islam. countries had 3 options before the muslims attacked. 1st was them accepting islam, then no war would occur. 2nd was protection. The country that was being targeted would pay the islamic country/state a fee and that country would fall under the protection of the muslims (they didnt need to accept islam, they could continue as their own county but as a allience of the islamic country) and if the islamic country/state can't defend or help the country then they are not obliged to pay anymore. And the 3rd option was war, and that was not weird since the persians romans where going to war to the muslims because they where increasing in size in an alarming rate after the muslims defeated the arabs and took back mecca.
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#67 - sovngarde (03/23/2016) [-]
I understand the history. But do you deny that Muslims during conquests would forcibly convert those whom they captured and the nations they took over?
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#69 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
I don't know about what the "muslims" do now with their prisoners, but I have studied the history of the prophet muhammad and the 4 khaliphs after him. The islam never really increased outisde of mecca and madina that much, just during the second khaliph the golden age of the muslims occured where they increased in size.

Coming to your comment, altought they DID take prisoners and slaves. Prisoners where the enemy soldiers and the slaves where the people, the slaves where shown the lifestyle of the muslims before setting them free. (showing them their way of life) after seeing this a lot of slaves rather continued staying slaves since slaves then where made with a contract. It was more of a made we have today. The prisoners could be bought free by the allies of the prisoners. And if they would accept islam they would be set free at once. THeir big enemys like quraish who tortured the muslims just for being muslims got killed. But there is no instance where the muslims forced the prisoners to be muslims. Because becoming a muslims you must testify with 100% dedication. You cant do that while forcing it. I can name every major war the moslims fought. If you have a particular war where it seems that the muslims forced islam then please let me know so i can look further into it.



Isis and those idiots you see today have nothing to do with islam nor are they acting like a muslims should during war.
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#74 - sovngarde (03/23/2016) [-]
www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/forced-conversion.aspx

I have not read or studied the Quran, however I'm curious as to if these texts are accurate or not. Also, during Muhammad's last years, did he not enforce a violent approach to Islam? Since you are Muslim, I would like your perspective.

I see you're very educated on this subject, so I'd like to apologize for my previous rashness.
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#88 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
Also Jizya that you see in the suras and hadeeth on that website is the protection money i previously mentioned. In war the muslims would send out a messenger with a letter to the leader of the enemy greeting them, asking if they would accept islam. if not if they would accept jizya (protection money) if not the war would continue. Muslims didn't attack left and right, first they fought agains Quraish who tortured them before. After the muslims moved to madinah the jews fought them because the muslims where increasing and getting their own law. (mohammad and the leader of the jew tribes had an agreement that the muslims would fall under mohammads law and everyone else under the jews law) and because the shariah was much more free people would go to mohammads side and that made the jews attack the muslims. The muslims retaliated and took madinah, and a few years later meccah from the hands of quraish. Quraish went to other jew tribes and the jews went to the persians. So the persians attacked fearing the muslims would increase to much in size. During this the muslims where still growing and the romans jumped in. If you look at the numbers of the armies, the muslims where always fewer in numbers, there was 1 war where they where more in numbers and they lost that one against quraish. So it would be weird for a new formed country with fewer soldiers to attack innocent bigger countries all around them
User avatar
#83 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
These suras of the quran mostly are about their wars against quraish. for example:
"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion be only for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers."

This surah was sent down as a permission to fight quraish in mecca since mecca was a holy ground where fighting was forbidden. The website says"key note religion be only for allah"

This is wrong. The situation with quraish was that they knew that the islam was the true religion but still tortured the muslims because of greed and their high and noble position. So the muslims got permission from Allah to fight quraish in mecca, untill none of quraish was left (chasing them out) or they accepted islam. They real key note is: " But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers" which happened. Quraish ran away and the muslims stops fighting them and released all the prisoners since Quraish forfeit.


Second one is: `Are they seeking a religion other than Allah's, when every soul in the heavens and the earth has submitted to Him, willingly orby compulsion?`

This is a surah that talks about murted. So people that accepted islam and deviated from it for wealth, political position or because the muslims lost a war. A lot of people would become muslim when the muslim won a war, and deviate from islam when they would lose a war. So this surah is about them because deviating from islam is a major crime. This has nothing to do with non believers.

I can say that ALL of the suras written there are out of context. A lot of them are about the wars agains quraish, and we read them to understand the situation the muslims where in. for example:

"Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease (from disbelief) their past will be forgiven... And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do"

Fighting the fitnah. Fighting is not done only with the sword, but in multiple ways.
For example there was a poet in the time of the prophet muhammad, he would write and spread out poems talking against and belittling muhammad. Now what he does is Fitnah, but that does not mean that the muslims fought him with the sword and killed him. They simply silenced him trough bribery and pulled them over to the side of the muslims.

Fighting and things like Jihad are things that can be done multiple ways.
You can fight with the tongue, with your deeds (good manners etc) fighting with money (bribing) and with the sword etc. Jihad for example means "to struggle" you can do that with you health, wealth and familly, this does not mean that you kill and fight you familly. If you have jihad in health, that means that you are ill and are fighting/ struggling to beat the sickness.

sorry for my long text but i want to clear the misconception a lot of people have about islam. There are a lot of people that are doing things wrong naming themselves muslims. But please do not base the islam on those people. Truly islam does not enforce violence or anything. The only thing it teaches is, worship allah alone, spread out good and forbid evil.
#56 - >Don't enforce Islam Boy Muhammad ****** up there.  [+] (8 new replies) 03/23/2016 on japan on terrorist attacks. +4
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#58 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
how so?
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#59 - sovngarde (03/23/2016) [-]
The only reason Islam spread was due to violence and war.
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#64 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
I suggest you read into the history. The muslims got attacked and once they had a base of operations they retaliated. And even then they never enforced people islam. countries had 3 options before the muslims attacked. 1st was them accepting islam, then no war would occur. 2nd was protection. The country that was being targeted would pay the islamic country/state a fee and that country would fall under the protection of the muslims (they didnt need to accept islam, they could continue as their own county but as a allience of the islamic country) and if the islamic country/state can't defend or help the country then they are not obliged to pay anymore. And the 3rd option was war, and that was not weird since the persians romans where going to war to the muslims because they where increasing in size in an alarming rate after the muslims defeated the arabs and took back mecca.
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#67 - sovngarde (03/23/2016) [-]
I understand the history. But do you deny that Muslims during conquests would forcibly convert those whom they captured and the nations they took over?
User avatar
#69 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
I don't know about what the "muslims" do now with their prisoners, but I have studied the history of the prophet muhammad and the 4 khaliphs after him. The islam never really increased outisde of mecca and madina that much, just during the second khaliph the golden age of the muslims occured where they increased in size.

Coming to your comment, altought they DID take prisoners and slaves. Prisoners where the enemy soldiers and the slaves where the people, the slaves where shown the lifestyle of the muslims before setting them free. (showing them their way of life) after seeing this a lot of slaves rather continued staying slaves since slaves then where made with a contract. It was more of a made we have today. The prisoners could be bought free by the allies of the prisoners. And if they would accept islam they would be set free at once. THeir big enemys like quraish who tortured the muslims just for being muslims got killed. But there is no instance where the muslims forced the prisoners to be muslims. Because becoming a muslims you must testify with 100% dedication. You cant do that while forcing it. I can name every major war the moslims fought. If you have a particular war where it seems that the muslims forced islam then please let me know so i can look further into it.



Isis and those idiots you see today have nothing to do with islam nor are they acting like a muslims should during war.
User avatar
#74 - sovngarde (03/23/2016) [-]
www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/forced-conversion.aspx

I have not read or studied the Quran, however I'm curious as to if these texts are accurate or not. Also, during Muhammad's last years, did he not enforce a violent approach to Islam? Since you are Muslim, I would like your perspective.

I see you're very educated on this subject, so I'd like to apologize for my previous rashness.
User avatar
#88 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
Also Jizya that you see in the suras and hadeeth on that website is the protection money i previously mentioned. In war the muslims would send out a messenger with a letter to the leader of the enemy greeting them, asking if they would accept islam. if not if they would accept jizya (protection money) if not the war would continue. Muslims didn't attack left and right, first they fought agains Quraish who tortured them before. After the muslims moved to madinah the jews fought them because the muslims where increasing and getting their own law. (mohammad and the leader of the jew tribes had an agreement that the muslims would fall under mohammads law and everyone else under the jews law) and because the shariah was much more free people would go to mohammads side and that made the jews attack the muslims. The muslims retaliated and took madinah, and a few years later meccah from the hands of quraish. Quraish went to other jew tribes and the jews went to the persians. So the persians attacked fearing the muslims would increase to much in size. During this the muslims where still growing and the romans jumped in. If you look at the numbers of the armies, the muslims where always fewer in numbers, there was 1 war where they where more in numbers and they lost that one against quraish. So it would be weird for a new formed country with fewer soldiers to attack innocent bigger countries all around them
User avatar
#83 - imaan (03/23/2016) [-]
These suras of the quran mostly are about their wars against quraish. for example:
"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion be only for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers."

This surah was sent down as a permission to fight quraish in mecca since mecca was a holy ground where fighting was forbidden. The website says"key note religion be only for allah"

This is wrong. The situation with quraish was that they knew that the islam was the true religion but still tortured the muslims because of greed and their high and noble position. So the muslims got permission from Allah to fight quraish in mecca, untill none of quraish was left (chasing them out) or they accepted islam. They real key note is: " But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers" which happened. Quraish ran away and the muslims stops fighting them and released all the prisoners since Quraish forfeit.


Second one is: `Are they seeking a religion other than Allah's, when every soul in the heavens and the earth has submitted to Him, willingly orby compulsion?`

This is a surah that talks about murted. So people that accepted islam and deviated from it for wealth, political position or because the muslims lost a war. A lot of people would become muslim when the muslim won a war, and deviate from islam when they would lose a war. So this surah is about them because deviating from islam is a major crime. This has nothing to do with non believers.

I can say that ALL of the suras written there are out of context. A lot of them are about the wars agains quraish, and we read them to understand the situation the muslims where in. for example:

"Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease (from disbelief) their past will be forgiven... And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do"

Fighting the fitnah. Fighting is not done only with the sword, but in multiple ways.
For example there was a poet in the time of the prophet muhammad, he would write and spread out poems talking against and belittling muhammad. Now what he does is Fitnah, but that does not mean that the muslims fought him with the sword and killed him. They simply silenced him trough bribery and pulled them over to the side of the muslims.

Fighting and things like Jihad are things that can be done multiple ways.
You can fight with the tongue, with your deeds (good manners etc) fighting with money (bribing) and with the sword etc. Jihad for example means "to struggle" you can do that with you health, wealth and familly, this does not mean that you kill and fight you familly. If you have jihad in health, that means that you are ill and are fighting/ struggling to beat the sickness.

sorry for my long text but i want to clear the misconception a lot of people have about islam. There are a lot of people that are doing things wrong naming themselves muslims. But please do not base the islam on those people. Truly islam does not enforce violence or anything. The only thing it teaches is, worship allah alone, spread out good and forbid evil.
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