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#105 - Actually, did you know that the origin of the dinner table is …  [+] (14 replies) 05/09/2013 on Communism 0
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#109 - toastedspikes (05/09/2013) [-]
That's ridiculous, all you have to do is look at every single tribe today and how they share their food. Look at the many cultures worldwide whose dinner table consists of meals everyone shares. Even the Western dinner table is a completely shared experience. Everyone eats from the same pots and pans, and the portions are equal.
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#111 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/09/2013) [-]
Isn't that what I said?
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#113 - toastedspikes (05/09/2013) [-]
You said the complete opposite. I'm arguing that meals are inherently communal, which they are, and you're arguing they're completely selfish.

Also, you're wrong in saying all animals only care about themselves. This hasn't been an idea since the 1800's and is very obviously observable to be the contrary.
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#116 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/09/2013) [-]
That's the exact opposite of what I'm saying though.

I was arguing that in a tribe of people, immediate family shared with immediate family, and even if someone outside of that group was more "deserving" of food, the family communally cared about themselves. Also, when I say tribes I'm talking Neolithic Era. Cave People.

Also, I'm not saying Animals only care about themselves personally, rather, they care about themselves and those they consider part of their family.
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#119 - toastedspikes (05/09/2013) [-]
Ah, right, I misconstrued that then. But yes I would agree, though it is not an argument against communism.
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#121 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/09/2013) [-]
I wasn't really arguing against Communism. I support the idea; rather, I think the problem with Communism in practice is the essence of greed in mankind. People constantly need new stimulus, it's a survival tactic, and desiring more and more, even when they have enough to be perfectly happy, is an unfortunate side effect of that.
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#122 - toastedspikes (05/09/2013) [-]
Aye, but as proven by numerous experiments, altruism is the default state, not greed. Communists argue that it is better (not perfect, mind you) to have system which discourages greed and encourages altruism, than a system in the opposite.
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#126 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/09/2013) [-]
Perhaps so, but to eradicate greed entirely would be a herculean task. If there is even a seed of it in the right person it can cause way for problems and corruption. That's where communism reaches a problematic point; the only way to rid greed entirely is complete control and suppression. However, complete control and suppression is no longer altruism, creating more of a problem in the attempt to remove it, not to mention that if successful things go down the route of 1984 and no one is ever capable of free thought.
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#131 - toastedspikes (05/09/2013) [-]
Communists do not aim to eradicate greed, rather class relations. Even then I think you'd be hard pressed to find a communist who thinks "full communism" is realistic at all.
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#137 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/09/2013) [-]
Right, but for, as you put it, "full communism" to work, you'd need to eradicate greed. That said, could you explain to me how partial communism might work as opposed to full communism?
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#141 - toastedspikes (05/09/2013) [-]
Partial communism, which communists just call communism, is basically exactly the same as "full communism". Except that "full communism" is the utopian version where there is complete absence of class and state structure. It's the same as saying that there is no such thing as ultimate totalitarianism, as there cannot possibly be one person in control of everything. There is always a degree of freedom no matter how small.
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#143 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/09/2013) [-]
Ah, alright. Still, I feel the sense of Greed would keep a class system for ever properly being abolished.
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#147 - toastedspikes (05/09/2013) [-]
I see your point, and I agree. I'm pretty sure most communists would agree too, but that's not the whole point of communist theory. "Well at least it's better than capitalism".

I do see some charm in market socialism and mutualism though, doing some reading on those subjects atm.
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#148 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/09/2013) [-]
Ah, right. Well, I'm no political mind myself. It's just come up quite frequently recently.
#131 - I like it. Seems kinky, and if her boyfriend is in a high payi…  [+] (4 replies) 05/09/2013 on Can it get worse? -5
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#160 - Nameloc (05/09/2013) [-]
Her boyfriend is a tattoo artist.
Hence forth the reason she got the tattoo.
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#161 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/09/2013) [-]
I don't know what they make, to be honest.
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#162 - Nameloc (05/09/2013) [-]
How much money they make in a year?
I don't think it entirely matters, either way if she doesn't stick with him for the rest of her life, she's fucked.
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#163 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/09/2013) [-]
Well, that just depends on how many men named Rustle there are out there.
#66 - Because that's what Europeans do to water.  [+] (1 reply) 05/09/2013 on Milkshake +3
#75 - anon (05/09/2013) [-]
I'm European and I can confirm this.
#63 - He might've just done a **** job because the whole point of it…  [+] (2 replies) 05/09/2013 on Wanna play a game? +1
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#78 - fuush (05/09/2013) [-]
"Getting paid to do it properly" - rofl, an educated welder can hardly do such a bad work on purpose ;)
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#79 - sorrowofdaedalus (05/09/2013) [-]
Well, I guess you found one that can.
#7 - You know, I don't think the rainbow bridge was a good idea on …  [+] (2 replies) 05/07/2013 on genius +1
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#14 - thetattooedone (05/07/2013) [-]
What he said.vvvvvvv
#9 - wolvebane (05/07/2013) [-]
Gannon didn't make the rainbow bridge, the sage's did.
#8 - Actually, yeah it does. It totally does, you liberal faggot. …  [+] (2 replies) 05/07/2013 on Anon needs to shit -1
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#9 - bostonbruins (05/07/2013) [-]
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#12 - deathcampforjewtie (05/09/2013) [-]
I love your username, especially considering what just happened a few seconds ago.