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#4 - sarahsa (11/07/2011) [-]
Gay love is beautiful and you are a dick for thinking otherwise.
User avatar #5 to #4 - sorrowofdaedalus (11/07/2011) [-]
Ooh, I'm a monster and a dick for thinking differently, that just screams "respect my opinions". Try reading my reply all the way through before posting ignorant ******** on my profile.
User avatar #6 to #5 - sarahsa (11/07/2011) [-]
I know it is your opinion, but it pisses me off when people think it is sick and wrong >_> There is nothing wrong with loving people.
User avatar #7 to #6 - sorrowofdaedalus (11/07/2011) [-]
Anatomy and History suggest otherwise, Like I said in my reply though, just because it is unnatural, doesn't mean it isn't part of who you are. You need to accept that. I'm a sick and unnatural person, but I accept that, I practice it, and I'm happy because I do. There is no point in changing what can't be changed, and there is no point in trying to make something that is wrong seem right.
User avatar #8 to #7 - sarahsa (11/07/2011) [-]
Anatomy and history aren't necessarily correct though, now are they? And you realize it is not just humans that are gay, they have seen a number of species of birds also practicing homosexual acts, among other species. And I'm not saying you have to change, but even if you keep think it is unnatural, doesn't mean it is. And are you saying that being gay is wrong and you can't make it right?
User avatar #9 to #8 - sorrowofdaedalus (11/07/2011) [-]
Well, the basics, yes, they are. And you realize new species are discovered every day, which means that being gay among the animals is still unnatural and different comparatively?
What I am saying is that it IS unnatural, but that doesn't mean you need to change it, and it is just ridiculous to try to say it is normal when it's not. I'm saying that being gay is something that you must accept, realize is different, and revel in that difference. I'm in to watersports and bondage, I realize it is sick and wrong, I accept that, I live out my fetish because it is part of me, and it makes me happy. Gays shouldn't try to force others to think something is right when it clearly isn't, they should simply accept the fact that they are gay, and that is different, and be happy the way they are.
User avatar #10 to #9 - sarahsa (11/07/2011) [-]
Does it matter if something is different? No, it doesn't, nor does it make it wrong.
And what is wrong with having those sort of fetishes? I don't think it is wrong if it makes you happy.
And gays aren't trying to force people that being gay is right, they are just trying to be accepted. So many gay people kill themselves because they are called unnatural and gross. So who is more sick, the guy that happens to like another guy, or the people driving them to kill themselves?
As long as there happy, people should just accept them as they are.
User avatar #11 to #10 - sorrowofdaedalus (11/07/2011) [-]
Being a psychologist, I can hardly say that someone who has a belief that is negative is any more sick than a person who has an unnatural sexual preference.
Something that is unnatural is wrong, but there should not be unhappiness because you are wrong. There should be acceptance of it. Wrong and bad are two different things, and that is what I think is the mistake people make.
It is wrong to have the fetishes I have because they aren't normal or natural, and aren't beneficial to reproduction, it is only out of happiness and pleasure that I do it, it is wrong, but I accept that, it isn't bad, just because it's wrong.
User avatar #12 to #11 - sarahsa (11/07/2011) [-]
Why is being gay even labled as 'unnatural'? What about it makes it that? Because it doesn't help with reproduction? Alright, you say your fetish is wrong because it doesn't help reproduction, but if you haven't noticed, we just hit 7o billion people. We don't need to keep reproducing.
User avatar #13 to #12 - sorrowofdaedalus (11/07/2011) [-]
We don't NEED to, but reproduction is the only natural reason for sex. It is labeled as unnatural because it IS. Like I said, science proves so. I'm not sure if you read my other comments at all, but I mentioned I am a hellenic polytheist. The ancient greeks were known for being openly gay, but the religion also shares a philosophy of accepting that just because something isn't unnatural, doesn't make bad, and true happiness can only be found through acceptance of what is unnatural, you need to accept what is wrong with you the same way you accept what is right about you.
User avatar #14 to #13 - sarahsa (11/09/2011) [-]
I understand that, but still, just because science proves something, doesn't make it correct. Anyway, that is actually pretty cool that you are a hellenic polytheist, and I get what you mean when you say just because something is unnatural, doesn't make it bad, and that you just have to accept something to be happy even if it is 'unnatural'.
Even though you don't support gays, you are clearly not overly against it, and you actually have some very interesting views, so I apologize for insulting you earlier :)
User avatar #15 to #14 - sorrowofdaedalus (11/09/2011) [-]
Thank you for your apology. Please understand that I don't support what isn't meant to be, but I will ALWAYS support love, even if it isn't "right". If I may ask, why is it that you so fervently support homosexuality?
User avatar #16 to #15 - sarahsa (11/10/2011) [-]
Well, I'm glad you support love always. I'm not sure, I just feel that no matter what the gender of the people, if they love each other, then it shouldn't matter, and it may also be because I think it is really cute.
User avatar #17 to #16 - sorrowofdaedalus (11/10/2011) [-]
That fair enough. But, you catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar. Believe it or not, even people that are homophobic or put up an angry first impression are willing to appeal to reason if you probe them with questions, reply in a generally calm manner, and make strong points. Isn't the point of the argument to get the other party to see your side?
User avatar #18 to #17 - sarahsa (11/12/2011) [-]
I see you point, but I have met plenty of people who won't listen to reason >_>
User avatar #19 to #18 - sorrowofdaedalus (11/13/2011) [-]
Reason tempered with zeal often strikes down understanding.
User avatar #20 to #19 - sarahsa (11/14/2011) [-]
Yeah, I suppose, I just wish some people could open there eye more.
User avatar #21 to #21 - sorrowofdaedalus (11/14/2011) [-]
People will listen, you just need to be patient. Being angry just makes people close their eyes more.
User avatar #22 to #22 - sarahsa (11/15/2011) [-]
People may eventually listen, but that doesn't mean it won't go through one ear and out the other.
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