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#1 - trappedtime (05/20/2012) [-]
I have a challenge for you.
Since I have no "proof" of demons, you find proof of physics being broken.
#2 to #1 - satyrn (05/20/2012) [-]
That seems a little counter-intuitive. I believe that the laws of physics apply in all situations. Why am I trying to disprove them again?

There's a theory that the laws of physics don't apply past the event horizon of a black hole, but since the event horizon is literally impossible to escape, even by the most basic information such as electro-magnetic radiation, there's is no way to ever prove that theory.
#3 to #2 - trappedtime (05/20/2012) [-]
Therefore, I have no proof of demons, and you have no proof that the laws of physics apply everywhere at all times.
#4 to #3 - satyrn (05/20/2012) [-]
I have proof of the laws of physics applying in any situation you could care to mention. The only possible exception can never actually be proved as such, so we can hardly count that. You, on the other hand, have no quantifiable proof whatsoever. There's no comparison between the two at all.
#5 to #4 - trappedtime (05/20/2012) [-]
You can't go to space, now can you? So you have no prove of anything beyond earth.

You can grab an apple, and drop it. Gravity.
I can use a ouiji board, and get a response. Demons.
Do you honestly think that people lie about hauntings/possessions?
#6 to #5 - satyrn (05/20/2012) [-]
I think they're mistaken, or lying. Believe me, I've actually done some very extensive testing on ouiji boards. Funnily enough, if we sneakily placed a low friction surface between the "players" hands and the glass on the board, the players would continue to move the surface and the cup would stay put, indicating that all the movement was being actuated by the players hands and not by an outside force, or any combination of such.
Once again, you show me irrefutable proof that the laws of physics don't apply in a certain situation, and I'll consider your arguments. Preferably without the human aspect of the proof to introduce all the errors associated with it.
#7 to #6 - trappedtime (05/20/2012) [-]
"...move the surface..."

I just realized we shouldn't be arguing at all. Physics and demons have absolutely nothing in common. Physics are something you can actually test yourself, anytime, anywhere; while demons have to be coaxed, angered, told off, in order to produce a reaction. I'm sorry for bringing this up, what was I thinking....
#8 to #7 - satyrn (05/20/2012) [-]
A surface, such as a very thin sheet of perspex or glass, so that the players *think* they're still playing properly but they're not. And you're right, we shouldn't be arguing this. I doubt either of us is going to change our minds, so we may as well leave it at that.

Just as a final parting question, are you a literal believer in the bible, or do you take it as a metaphor of sorts?
#9 to #8 - trappedtime (05/20/2012) [-]
Believer in the Bible? What kind of question is that? The Bible is an object, not a religion, get that straight.

And no. I am not. I only accept that God exists and that believing in/loving/acception/etc. him will get you into heaven, nothing more. The Bible, however, is something else. Honestly, through your logic, I have no proof anything in it actually happened. However, how else would it exist?

Plus, have you heard of a story about a man who wrote a book in less than a day? Apparently he had help from Satan himself. The book exists, yet no one knows what really happened, I can't remember the name of it though. It's supossedly very "anti-christian", with drawings of demonic creatures and what-not. i wish i remembered the freaking name of it...
#10 to #9 - satyrn (05/20/2012) [-]
I'm not going to argue with you about the bible, but suffice to say I believe that it defines christianity, and therefore is almost synonymous with the religion itself. It exists for the same reason as the meso-american long count calender, the qu'ran, and any other artifact of the like. It's somewhere for people to write down stories, true, false, embellished or otherwise.

I've never heard of a man writing a book with the help of satan. Might be worth reading...
#11 to #10 - trappedtime (05/20/2012) [-]
Key word "defines", not saying it is a religion itself.

And yes, I'm trying to find the story about it now.
#12 to #11 - satyrn (05/20/2012) [-]
Well, tell me when you do, if that's not a problem. You've got me interested.
#14 to #12 - trappedtime (05/20/2012) [-]
Here, you can even browse the entire book online:

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#13 to #12 - trappedtime (05/20/2012) [-]

Go to "Legend", the story about it is there.