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#43 - mendelevium (03/22/2015) [-]
Except for if anyone knows anything about the water cycle...
The reason its a drought is not because water is being taken away from its source, its because water is not being given to the source.
Almost no water relatively evaporates from California.
meaning that would not at all effect the amount of rain California receives.
Most if not all rain is just evaporated sea water.
And the oceans look pretty fine to me.
#64 - hackmon (03/22/2015) [-]
The water supply in a system is based on its input and its output, not just its input....
i.e, their problems arise from both fluctuations in input, and constant output
Also, is English your second language? because I have no idea what you're trying to say in that last part...mind explaining what you mean by that?
#68 - mendelevium (03/22/2015) [-]
Most if not all rain is just evaporated sea water.
And the oceans look pretty fine to me.
Is English your second language?
California holds less then a tenth of a tenth of a tenth of a tenth of f a tenth ect
of the worlds water supply.
and evaporated water turns into clouds, clouds move
therefor the water IN California never STAYS in California
The problem is not that water is leaving, its that water is not coming.
#70 - hackmon (03/22/2015) [-]
a) none of that was clear in >>#43,your first two points are just restated verbatim and probably copy and pasted, with no effort to expand on what the fuck you mean
b) your first point is 100% incorrect
c) the proportion of the world's water that California holds is not at all relevant to this.
d) the rest is irrelevant or wrong
don't bother replying, you are clearly incapable of making sense of this....
#129 - hackmon (03/23/2015) [-]
He is most certainly not right. If you read what I said, and were capable of comprehending it, then you'd know that your comment is useless. Point out the part where I said a drought was something else? I merely said that the problem was from fluctuations in input here's where drought would go! as well as constant output. As I said that the system is based on the relationship between input and output, you may realize that it is possible for water shortage problems to arise from a combination of both lower than normal input, and steady output (through acquifer pumping, etc.)! It is a simple equation, ya dingus
#73 - mendelevium (03/22/2015) [-]
You are just calling me wrong with out stating why.
You're just shouting "NO SHUT UP YOUR WRONG"
A) I dont know how to make it any more clear that I was stating that the bottle companies weren't effecting the water cycle because the oceans have not changed.
B) if anything it was an understatement, the water is probably less then .000000000000000000001 of the earths water.
C)Re read B
D) here you are shouting I'm wrong for no reason without any evidence or proof or sources.
#192 - hackmon (03/23/2015) [-]
I see what you mean, from my perspective of course I didn't see it necessary to explain to you, but I can see why you'd want it. Okay, I'll explain why you're wrong.
You're talking about the water cycle, which is vital to, but isn't the only factor contributing to the state of a system's water balance/budget. This budget is based on the relationship between the system's input (precipitation, runoff, etc.) and its output (evaporation, evapotranspiration, runoff, extraction from acquifers, etc.). You'll notice runoff is on both sides of the equation, this is because it can be an input to things like lakes and rivers, but an output as well because some water can run off into the ocean, sewers etc.
If there is less than normal input (say, due to a drought), and constant output through water extraction from acquifers, then you can have a shortage, which can be very serious (people may have their residential water supplies limited so as to maintain water supplies for irrigation of crops; a big deal in a place like California).
a) You're saying that the oceans have not changed, therefore bottle companies are not affecting the water cycle. What you're missing here is that it is the water budget that is important here, because the water cycle is constant; it is always underway, but the budget is not always constant. Also, what is your evidence for "the oceans have not changed"? In what way do you think the oceans changing within reasonable possible changes would have an impact here? The ocean is the source of moisture for much of the West Coast of North America. The water evaporates from the ocean, and falls as precipitation on the land.
b) The proportion of water in an area compared to total water on Earth is meaningless to talk about in this case. What is important is the amount of water in that region, not elsewhere on Earth. Do you think it makes a difference to the people of an area experiencing drought? What do you think would be their response if you were to say something like "Hey don't worry about your problems, the amount of water that sustains your economy and livelihood is a mere fraction of the total water on Earth." you guessed it; that doesn't matter to them, because it is irrelevant to their situation
c) The trouble with constant removal of a system's water supply from an acquifer is that they are draining them faster than they can be replenished (i.e they are draining them at an unsustainable rate, and this is obviously problematic for a region that depends on a constant supply of water
d) tl;dr we both agree that the fact that water is not coming (drought) is a problem, the difference is you seem to think it is the only issue, when there are other factors at play; see above
shoutout to beatya for calling me a retard for no good reason
#338 - anonymous (03/23/2015) [-]
damn bro you're a real nignog
#80 - angelusprimus (03/23/2015) [-]
You are wrong because you don't understand the concept and use of ground water.
Ground water stays underground, and keeps lower layers of earth wet.
So when rain falls, upper levels are soaked and since there is adequate water underneath, topsoil water evaporates, but ground water stays.
But if you pump out too much ground water, than rains can't replenish the total water in area and most of it evaporates, messing up the needs of agriculture and drinking water needs.
Ground water is the strategic reserve that must be kept at certain levels. If it drops below those levels cycle is changed.
#86 - mendelevium (03/23/2015) [-]
No sources, but what ever I also took 6th grade geography.
And the problem isn't that the rain can't replenish the water, its that there is no fucking rain. And the fact that there is no rain is NOT AT ALL INVOLVED WITH THE WATER COMPANY, THIS KINDA SHIT IS THE SAME THING AS "Vaccines cause autism"
#91 - angelusprimus (03/23/2015) [-]
Ok let me try to be simpler.
One of the things ground waters do, is cool the ground.
When ground is too warm, even when rains fall, the water evaporates too fast to feed the plants.
But there is another factor with too hot land. When ground gets too hot, it creates hot updrafts, which prevent formation of... clouds.
And where do rains come from?
You can't remove massive amounts of water from an enviroment that has limited amounts in the first place and not mess up the natural cycle.
#95 - mendelevium (03/23/2015) [-]
ment to put this link in spoiler
#94 - mendelevium (03/23/2015) [-]
Except for the rain in California doesn't come from California.
I wasn't disagreeing with the first statement, I know how the water cycle works.
But I also know how trade winds work
The rain in California comes from the Ocean, however for some reason it is not getting that rain.
But the reason is unrelated to bottling water.
#99 - angelusprimus (03/23/2015) [-]
The clouds that would be rain carriers are being pushed away.
Its great if you want to go parasailing in california right now, you can stay up for nearly ever, but if you are hoping for rain it sucks.
There are plans for massive pipes carrying ocean water around them, not for any use just to reduce ground heating.
That's the problem. Not that we have less water, because wahts pumped out is not actually that much, its what the secondary job that pumped water does. Cools the ground.
#101 - mendelevium (03/23/2015) [-]
Did you even look at that link?
THE PROBLEM IS THE RAIN YOU FUCK
I DONT KNOW HOW I CAN MAKE IT ANY MORE CLEAR
#315 - anonymous (03/23/2015) [-]
And so the caps have come
#103 - angelusprimus (03/23/2015) [-]
And I don't know how more clear I can be you FUCKING IDIOT;
YOU CANT HAVE THE FUCKING RAIN IF THE FUCKING GRUOND IS TOO HOT AND CREATES FUCKING UPDRAFT THAT PUSHES THE CLOUDS AWAY.
RAIN CANT MAGICALLY FALL IF THE CLOUDS CANT FUCKING REACH THE AREA.
ARE YOU FUCKING ILLITERATE OR JUST TOO FUCKING STUPID TO UNDERSTAND WHAT FUCKING UPDRAFTS ARE?
#46 - rainfire (03/22/2015) [-]
I wasn't connecting it to the droughts in California, just what OP's point about Nestle was. I don't understand why it's correlated with CA rather than where they actually pump the ground. The link I meant to post is here www.bottledlifefilm.com/index.php/the-story.html Again, it's biased, but still a pretty good read.
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