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    #72 - danmegaflakes (03/25/2018) [-]
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    Other Asian here, I don't even care if it is white washing, it looks perfect.
    #88 - ragnithenotfunny (04/03/2018) [-]
    I was kidding, wish I had a reaction pic for this, sorry for the misunderstandin' but that's on me.
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    #21 - oniichon (03/15/2018) [-]
    Sure, you've the point. But i don't share that you absolutly denied a potential future of the AI. ¿Can you even tell me what's the mecanism behind both "Judgment" and "Conscience"? No, you can't, because no one knows get. But this doesn't mean that in a future it still remains as a mistery.

    That's all.

    PS: Sorry for my bad english, i tried my best to write properly.
    #22 - ragnithenotfunny (03/15/2018) [-]
    Well, the mechanism is complicated because they have arisen out of many overlapping and inter-related phenomenon, such as more easily explicable things such as instinct. There's evolutionary value to these mechanisms too, that's why humans rule the world and other animals don't.
    I am not saying that there won't be a future with powerful A.I., I'm just arguing that there are a common misconception and something of a pseudo-intellectual tendency to conflate or overlap these two disparate terms. Much like how Omniscience and omnipotence are not the same things. Furthermore, a purely sentient A.I. is no threat, a threat would be found in a sapient A.I. that is NOT sentient, it has forward thought and judgment capabilities, but it DOES NOT feel, or empathize and so on.
    The future is a mystery, but I am always sceptical whenever Elon Musk or some such says A.I. is more dangerous than nuclear warheads. Sky net, USED nuclear warheads!
    But, furthermore, and to clarify, I agree with Ol' Musky about having a conversation on these topics, and I understand and respect the threat a general A.I. with some magic ability to reprogram itself and learn at that level does exist. But I do not respect needles fearmongering over science fiction that is easily several decades off, at best if not centuries out, if at all even possible! I'm not saying it's impossible, I just also won't say it is possible. And I believe that clarification and understanding are key in complex conversations especially ones like this, which is a rare example of both philosophical, moral and scientific overlap, which is nearly unprecedented.
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    John Von Neumann talked 'bout "self-replicating Automatas" 60 years ago. So... we've ragnithenfunny words against John Von Neumann ones.
    #20 - ragnithenotfunny (03/15/2018) [-]
    As I understand Neuman, he talking about a sort of machine-based evolutionary self-replication, right? It'd change over generations and mutate as the machines replicated, so sure, that's cool if you're worried about being overrun by likely-nonhumanoid, machines in a few thousand to a few million years. Maybe I misunderstood, though, which is possible.
    But I'm not afraid of robot plants, and I'm not afraid of machines that feel but have no creativity, or forward-thinking planning abilities.
    #21 - oniichon (03/15/2018) [-]
    Sure, you've the point. But i don't share that you absolutly denied a potential future of the AI. ¿Can you even tell me what's the mecanism behind both "Judgment" and "Conscience"? No, you can't, because no one knows get. But this doesn't mean that in a future it still remains as a mistery.

    That's all.

    PS: Sorry for my bad english, i tried my best to write properly.
    #22 - ragnithenotfunny (03/15/2018) [-]
    Well, the mechanism is complicated because they have arisen out of many overlapping and inter-related phenomenon, such as more easily explicable things such as instinct. There's evolutionary value to these mechanisms too, that's why humans rule the world and other animals don't.
    I am not saying that there won't be a future with powerful A.I., I'm just arguing that there are a common misconception and something of a pseudo-intellectual tendency to conflate or overlap these two disparate terms. Much like how Omniscience and omnipotence are not the same things. Furthermore, a purely sentient A.I. is no threat, a threat would be found in a sapient A.I. that is NOT sentient, it has forward thought and judgment capabilities, but it DOES NOT feel, or empathize and so on.
    The future is a mystery, but I am always sceptical whenever Elon Musk or some such says A.I. is more dangerous than nuclear warheads. Sky net, USED nuclear warheads!
    But, furthermore, and to clarify, I agree with Ol' Musky about having a conversation on these topics, and I understand and respect the threat a general A.I. with some magic ability to reprogram itself and learn at that level does exist. But I do not respect needles fearmongering over science fiction that is easily several decades off, at best if not centuries out, if at all even possible! I'm not saying it's impossible, I just also won't say it is possible. And I believe that clarification and understanding are key in complex conversations especially ones like this, which is a rare example of both philosophical, moral and scientific overlap, which is nearly unprecedented.
    #15 - aptomtwo (03/14/2018) [-]
    A strong ai doesnt need to be either sentient or sapient to become dangerous, all it needs is the ability to self improve. Take googles picture identifying ai. Given freedom to self improve It could decide that the best way to accrue information about pictures is to start accessing personal computers looking for context since we humans know what the pictures are. The problem with self improvement in strong ai is not malice or self awareness. Its that its decision making process could become alien very quickly, with unforseeable results.
    #16 - ragnithenotfunny (03/14/2018) [-]
    That's my point exactly though. That decision making, requires a judgment call, for it to make the best decision it has to judge all other possibilities against each other. I'm talking about the decision making at a fundamental level. Animals "Decide" based on needs an instinct, hunger, reproductive needs based on hormones, not because "it's fun" or because "it's for the best" they can't plan ahead. Your A.I. would need to be able to plan ahead, and that is an incredibly complicated process that requires an imagination, and that is even more complicated. How does it even "know" that humans "know" what pictures are?
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