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#82 - wow, this is one of those situations where neither party will …  [+] (1 new reply) 02/14/2015 on 50 Shades of Gay 0
#83 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
You realise that you are exactly the same right? You too sound like tumblr feminist, if I do, so do you...
And you said he's protective of his belongings... a human should never be categorized as a beloging.
And where did I go into rape? That's really a queastion I wish to have answered. If it's about the period thing, then he also raped her since she didnt want to. If it was somewhere else I'd like to know
#77 - Oh and the contract makes it so that she's submissive to him ,… 02/14/2015 on 50 Shades of Gay 0
#76 - Patience dear. You just answered your own question, "she …  [+] (5 new replies) 02/14/2015 on 50 Shades of Gay 0
#79 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
Let me tell you this, yes the contract states she is the sub and he's the dom, that doesn't mean he can make her do whatever he wants, even in the BDSM scene things can happen thet were not expected, and if something like that happens a new agreement must be made. You are basically delivering yourself on a silver platter if you a sub, and your dom will know this, and the dom should know that they should NEVER force someone into new teritorry if they aren't ready for it. Something which Grey did. Also, it's not sexual retardation if she doesn't know what the contract entrails, but he never explained to her what the points entail that he made. If you make a contract you also have to specify what it is about and not just say: You have to do this and this, and I will in return to this and that. Contracts don't work like that. Normally they get made by peopel who know about the subject at hand, she didn't know much or anything at all about it. Just because you are adult, doesn't mean you know everything, or do you know things about the BDSM scene without ever having been an active member yourself? Not to forgget he doesn't even want her to know what the contract is about until he does it with her. In the BDSM scene you would have to ask you partner to which point he/she wants can/wants to go, if they don't want to you have to respect that, not forgetting he ignores the save word a few times (Or something like that)
And I love how you say he's protective of his belongings, she is still a human person, and should not be treated like an object, not even in a master slave relationship. So him using "BDSM" as a form of mental relief is ok? No it isn't, it's actually incredibly unresponsible. Not to forget he tok advatage of her when she was intoxicated, and if only one party is infact drunk, and teh other one knows this but still takes advantage of it, it is considered rape. And no contract between sub and dom changes that.
And the fact still stands that he is controlling her life, making her dependant on him, that's what abusers do, and just because he was abused as child desn't give him a free card to do the stuff he does. (And I don't give a damn about that stupid contract, the fact stands she didn't know what every aspect of it meant, so he takes adavatage of her not knowing. And it's not like he tried to explain it to her either)
Yes many people have been pushed farher than they sometimes wanted, that doesn't mean they enjoyed it, and especially in such a delicate situation where someone demands you give them your body can lead to a mental trauma. How would you feel if your spouse told you to give them oral but you don't want to but they still force you to it? Is it still ok then? Afterall, they just wanted to push you limits a bit more... This is just an example, I'm not asuming you don't liek oral, but it was the best I could come up with, which also exists in peoples sex lives
#81 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
Ps. Sexual on your period intercourse can be unpleasant for some people, the reason vary, some don't like blood, some dislike the smell etc...
Not to forget that the blood can dry and make it incredibly unconfortable for the female/male because of the chaffing.
#80 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
And let's not forget that he reads her mails/messages (privat, just for her) without her consent or knowledge which is a criminal offence.
He also dictates who she is allowed to see in her freetime.
He hurts her even though she doens't want it, and causing her fear trough it (It doesn't matter if it's in a contract, legally it is not binding, it's a sexual contract which tells the parties how far they can go, but it can be changed anytime if necessary if one of the parties is unconfortable)
He comes to her home even though she tells him she doesn't want to see him anymore.
Instead of conforting her after the sex (which is supposed to be "BDSM" often ends with the parties envolved consoling each other, it's on occasios emotionally exhausting to be in such relationships if it isn't done right. After each BDSM session the parties will help each otehr "calm down" and mak sure he other one is alright.) Grey gets angry at her and does none of these things, that's not just sloppy, but also incredibly stupid for someone who claims to be into "BDMS".
And the fact BDSM gets traetd like dissease even though it's not, a result of his abuse. That's incredibly small minded and idiotic to write if the person doesn't know what they are writting about.
#82 - puppett (02/14/2015) [-]
wow, this is one of those situations where neither party will agree on one thing. honestly you sound like a tumblr feminist to me, completely oblivious to the story and only focuses on 'her group". Ill try to break it down as briefly as possible, and please do not expect me to reply to anymore of your posts, i am done. Youre welcome to conclude this conversation. Grey was abused, the contract (you can find it online), i dont believe it says anywhere about BDSM, its an assumption and a deduction. The contract only states dom and sub roles. He shows her the room, she asks all the questions, she asks what all of that shit does and his past experiences. He explains as much as he can, and she reads the god damn contract which describes that she is there for him for a period of time. She has control over him and she can leave at any time she wants. When you are given a contract, it is your responsibility to know what youre are signing... only your lawyer will read it for you and tell you what it is, if a lawyer isnt present, it is all up to you.... I did not say anything about her being an object, i said hes protective, just like a mother is protective of her kids. She signed a contract that stated she belongs to him, there was no wiggle room unless stated before hand. It is not a legally binding contract, its a relationship contract, we all make those verbally. BDSM is a form of a mental relief.... and then you went into rape. I wish you best of luck.
#83 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
You realise that you are exactly the same right? You too sound like tumblr feminist, if I do, so do you...
And you said he's protective of his belongings... a human should never be categorized as a beloging.
And where did I go into rape? That's really a queastion I wish to have answered. If it's about the period thing, then he also raped her since she didnt want to. If it was somewhere else I'd like to know
#64 - You should gain a sense of perception. He didn't know that she…  [+] (9 new replies) 02/14/2015 on 50 Shades of Gay 0
#73 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
come on, answer me, how about we have a little reasoning for our opinions? I will tell you what I think and you can hit right back at me...
#72 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
I have perception. And why did he still go into contract with her? I know he had flower sex, but that doesn't change the fact that she was exually unexpirienced when she entered the contract. If you want to enter a bdsm relationship, your partner will want to you (maybe even deman) that you have prior knowledge of the scene.
And I don't give two craps about him having a mental problem. I have was abused when I was a child and I got help from proffesinals, why shouldn't he? He has the money.
And about the protecting thing? She is an adult woman, why should she need for someone to choose what she has to do. And it wasn't like he gave her a choice, it was either she obliges and listens or she can leave him, that mental abuse, she doesn't want to leave him for whatever reason, I woud have dumped his ass imidiatly so she accepts his rules.
And why don't we talk about the fact that he often pushed her farther than she wanted? She din't want to have sex on her period, yet still he did it with her.
#77 - puppett (02/14/2015) [-]
Oh and the contract makes it so that she's submissive to him , so she had no say in that anyway
#76 - puppett (02/14/2015) [-]
Patience dear. You just answered your own question, "she is an adult woman", exactly the reason as to why she had full knowledge of what the contract involved. Being sexually inexperienced doesn't mean that you're sexually retarded or even the slightest bit mentally challenged to not understand what the contract entails?

You were abused? I'm sure that if that was the case - you'd know that getting help from professionals doesn't actually rectify anything. What I meant by protecting is the fact that he was abused, and therefore is vulnerable and protective towards his belongings. His abuse turned him into a control freak, and that's the person he is? Why not question Anastasia's lack of perception? Why do you have to blame Christian? He does nothing but make his needs appropriate..

Also, I'm pretty sure we've all been pushed to do things that we haven't wanted to do, that's one of the most crucial steps towards any kind of new experience/learning.. Plus, having sex on her period is pushing her too far? Oh please..
#79 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
Let me tell you this, yes the contract states she is the sub and he's the dom, that doesn't mean he can make her do whatever he wants, even in the BDSM scene things can happen thet were not expected, and if something like that happens a new agreement must be made. You are basically delivering yourself on a silver platter if you a sub, and your dom will know this, and the dom should know that they should NEVER force someone into new teritorry if they aren't ready for it. Something which Grey did. Also, it's not sexual retardation if she doesn't know what the contract entrails, but he never explained to her what the points entail that he made. If you make a contract you also have to specify what it is about and not just say: You have to do this and this, and I will in return to this and that. Contracts don't work like that. Normally they get made by peopel who know about the subject at hand, she didn't know much or anything at all about it. Just because you are adult, doesn't mean you know everything, or do you know things about the BDSM scene without ever having been an active member yourself? Not to forgget he doesn't even want her to know what the contract is about until he does it with her. In the BDSM scene you would have to ask you partner to which point he/she wants can/wants to go, if they don't want to you have to respect that, not forgetting he ignores the save word a few times (Or something like that)
And I love how you say he's protective of his belongings, she is still a human person, and should not be treated like an object, not even in a master slave relationship. So him using "BDSM" as a form of mental relief is ok? No it isn't, it's actually incredibly unresponsible. Not to forget he tok advatage of her when she was intoxicated, and if only one party is infact drunk, and teh other one knows this but still takes advantage of it, it is considered rape. And no contract between sub and dom changes that.
And the fact still stands that he is controlling her life, making her dependant on him, that's what abusers do, and just because he was abused as child desn't give him a free card to do the stuff he does. (And I don't give a damn about that stupid contract, the fact stands she didn't know what every aspect of it meant, so he takes adavatage of her not knowing. And it's not like he tried to explain it to her either)
Yes many people have been pushed farher than they sometimes wanted, that doesn't mean they enjoyed it, and especially in such a delicate situation where someone demands you give them your body can lead to a mental trauma. How would you feel if your spouse told you to give them oral but you don't want to but they still force you to it? Is it still ok then? Afterall, they just wanted to push you limits a bit more... This is just an example, I'm not asuming you don't liek oral, but it was the best I could come up with, which also exists in peoples sex lives
#81 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
Ps. Sexual on your period intercourse can be unpleasant for some people, the reason vary, some don't like blood, some dislike the smell etc...
Not to forget that the blood can dry and make it incredibly unconfortable for the female/male because of the chaffing.
#80 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
And let's not forget that he reads her mails/messages (privat, just for her) without her consent or knowledge which is a criminal offence.
He also dictates who she is allowed to see in her freetime.
He hurts her even though she doens't want it, and causing her fear trough it (It doesn't matter if it's in a contract, legally it is not binding, it's a sexual contract which tells the parties how far they can go, but it can be changed anytime if necessary if one of the parties is unconfortable)
He comes to her home even though she tells him she doesn't want to see him anymore.
Instead of conforting her after the sex (which is supposed to be "BDSM" often ends with the parties envolved consoling each other, it's on occasios emotionally exhausting to be in such relationships if it isn't done right. After each BDSM session the parties will help each otehr "calm down" and mak sure he other one is alright.) Grey gets angry at her and does none of these things, that's not just sloppy, but also incredibly stupid for someone who claims to be into "BDMS".
And the fact BDSM gets traetd like dissease even though it's not, a result of his abuse. That's incredibly small minded and idiotic to write if the person doesn't know what they are writting about.
#82 - puppett (02/14/2015) [-]
wow, this is one of those situations where neither party will agree on one thing. honestly you sound like a tumblr feminist to me, completely oblivious to the story and only focuses on 'her group". Ill try to break it down as briefly as possible, and please do not expect me to reply to anymore of your posts, i am done. Youre welcome to conclude this conversation. Grey was abused, the contract (you can find it online), i dont believe it says anywhere about BDSM, its an assumption and a deduction. The contract only states dom and sub roles. He shows her the room, she asks all the questions, she asks what all of that shit does and his past experiences. He explains as much as he can, and she reads the god damn contract which describes that she is there for him for a period of time. She has control over him and she can leave at any time she wants. When you are given a contract, it is your responsibility to know what youre are signing... only your lawyer will read it for you and tell you what it is, if a lawyer isnt present, it is all up to you.... I did not say anything about her being an object, i said hes protective, just like a mother is protective of her kids. She signed a contract that stated she belongs to him, there was no wiggle room unless stated before hand. It is not a legally binding contract, its a relationship contract, we all make those verbally. BDSM is a form of a mental relief.... and then you went into rape. I wish you best of luck.
#83 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
You realise that you are exactly the same right? You too sound like tumblr feminist, if I do, so do you...
And you said he's protective of his belongings... a human should never be categorized as a beloging.
And where did I go into rape? That's really a queastion I wish to have answered. If it's about the period thing, then he also raped her since she didnt want to. If it was somewhere else I'd like to know
#38 - this might land me a lot of thumb downs. First of all, is this…  [+] (15 new replies) 02/14/2015 on 50 Shades of Gay 0
User avatar #60 - martialnorris (02/14/2015) [-]
was gonna make fun of you for reading, but then you ruined it
#54 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
You really should read the book...¨¨

Let me mention a few things from it: He makes a contract with her about how far they go alright, but she was a virgin and sexaully inexpirienced.
In the contract he makes it so that he decides what she eats, what she wears, what doctor she has to visit, how often she has to do training in a week. He stalks her phone, so that he always knows where she is , he sells her old car and buys her a new one without her consent. He doesn't want her to be with her male friend anyore because he gets jealous. He got a anger outbreak when he found out she had planned to leave him to visit her mother withour asking him firt.
He even had sex with her on her period even though she didn't want to.

Read the book before you say something, that book is a pure nightmare. Everything about it screamed abuse.
#64 - puppett (02/14/2015) [-]
You should gain a sense of perception. He didn't know that she was a virgin, she didn't tell him. When he found out, he was extremely shocked and had vanilla sex with her. He had never had vanilla sex before and made an exception for her. He was very slow and kind to her, and he didn't force her into signing the contract. The reason as to why the contract binds her to him with all of those rules is for his and her safety, he doesn't decide WHAT she eats, he decides how many TIMES she eats, to ensure that she is healthy. He likes to choose what she wears because he's a sophisticated man who ensures that his women are up to par. He was really kind with her the entire time and protected her. You need to understand that Christian was the innocent and vulnerable one all along, all he did was protect what was his. He never intentionally hurt her, but only for his own comfort on which they both agreed on.. You need to remember that he was abused and there are a lot of fucked up people who can relate to the story. So, perhaps you need to re-read the book without your idiotic and closed-minded judgment.
#73 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
come on, answer me, how about we have a little reasoning for our opinions? I will tell you what I think and you can hit right back at me...
#72 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
I have perception. And why did he still go into contract with her? I know he had flower sex, but that doesn't change the fact that she was exually unexpirienced when she entered the contract. If you want to enter a bdsm relationship, your partner will want to you (maybe even deman) that you have prior knowledge of the scene.
And I don't give two craps about him having a mental problem. I have was abused when I was a child and I got help from proffesinals, why shouldn't he? He has the money.
And about the protecting thing? She is an adult woman, why should she need for someone to choose what she has to do. And it wasn't like he gave her a choice, it was either she obliges and listens or she can leave him, that mental abuse, she doesn't want to leave him for whatever reason, I woud have dumped his ass imidiatly so she accepts his rules.
And why don't we talk about the fact that he often pushed her farther than she wanted? She din't want to have sex on her period, yet still he did it with her.
#77 - puppett (02/14/2015) [-]
Oh and the contract makes it so that she's submissive to him , so she had no say in that anyway
#76 - puppett (02/14/2015) [-]
Patience dear. You just answered your own question, "she is an adult woman", exactly the reason as to why she had full knowledge of what the contract involved. Being sexually inexperienced doesn't mean that you're sexually retarded or even the slightest bit mentally challenged to not understand what the contract entails?

You were abused? I'm sure that if that was the case - you'd know that getting help from professionals doesn't actually rectify anything. What I meant by protecting is the fact that he was abused, and therefore is vulnerable and protective towards his belongings. His abuse turned him into a control freak, and that's the person he is? Why not question Anastasia's lack of perception? Why do you have to blame Christian? He does nothing but make his needs appropriate..

Also, I'm pretty sure we've all been pushed to do things that we haven't wanted to do, that's one of the most crucial steps towards any kind of new experience/learning.. Plus, having sex on her period is pushing her too far? Oh please..
#79 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
Let me tell you this, yes the contract states she is the sub and he's the dom, that doesn't mean he can make her do whatever he wants, even in the BDSM scene things can happen thet were not expected, and if something like that happens a new agreement must be made. You are basically delivering yourself on a silver platter if you a sub, and your dom will know this, and the dom should know that they should NEVER force someone into new teritorry if they aren't ready for it. Something which Grey did. Also, it's not sexual retardation if she doesn't know what the contract entrails, but he never explained to her what the points entail that he made. If you make a contract you also have to specify what it is about and not just say: You have to do this and this, and I will in return to this and that. Contracts don't work like that. Normally they get made by peopel who know about the subject at hand, she didn't know much or anything at all about it. Just because you are adult, doesn't mean you know everything, or do you know things about the BDSM scene without ever having been an active member yourself? Not to forgget he doesn't even want her to know what the contract is about until he does it with her. In the BDSM scene you would have to ask you partner to which point he/she wants can/wants to go, if they don't want to you have to respect that, not forgetting he ignores the save word a few times (Or something like that)
And I love how you say he's protective of his belongings, she is still a human person, and should not be treated like an object, not even in a master slave relationship. So him using "BDSM" as a form of mental relief is ok? No it isn't, it's actually incredibly unresponsible. Not to forget he tok advatage of her when she was intoxicated, and if only one party is infact drunk, and teh other one knows this but still takes advantage of it, it is considered rape. And no contract between sub and dom changes that.
And the fact still stands that he is controlling her life, making her dependant on him, that's what abusers do, and just because he was abused as child desn't give him a free card to do the stuff he does. (And I don't give a damn about that stupid contract, the fact stands she didn't know what every aspect of it meant, so he takes adavatage of her not knowing. And it's not like he tried to explain it to her either)
Yes many people have been pushed farher than they sometimes wanted, that doesn't mean they enjoyed it, and especially in such a delicate situation where someone demands you give them your body can lead to a mental trauma. How would you feel if your spouse told you to give them oral but you don't want to but they still force you to it? Is it still ok then? Afterall, they just wanted to push you limits a bit more... This is just an example, I'm not asuming you don't liek oral, but it was the best I could come up with, which also exists in peoples sex lives
#81 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
Ps. Sexual on your period intercourse can be unpleasant for some people, the reason vary, some don't like blood, some dislike the smell etc...
Not to forget that the blood can dry and make it incredibly unconfortable for the female/male because of the chaffing.
#80 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
And let's not forget that he reads her mails/messages (privat, just for her) without her consent or knowledge which is a criminal offence.
He also dictates who she is allowed to see in her freetime.
He hurts her even though she doens't want it, and causing her fear trough it (It doesn't matter if it's in a contract, legally it is not binding, it's a sexual contract which tells the parties how far they can go, but it can be changed anytime if necessary if one of the parties is unconfortable)
He comes to her home even though she tells him she doesn't want to see him anymore.
Instead of conforting her after the sex (which is supposed to be "BDSM" often ends with the parties envolved consoling each other, it's on occasios emotionally exhausting to be in such relationships if it isn't done right. After each BDSM session the parties will help each otehr "calm down" and mak sure he other one is alright.) Grey gets angry at her and does none of these things, that's not just sloppy, but also incredibly stupid for someone who claims to be into "BDMS".
And the fact BDSM gets traetd like dissease even though it's not, a result of his abuse. That's incredibly small minded and idiotic to write if the person doesn't know what they are writting about.
#82 - puppett (02/14/2015) [-]
wow, this is one of those situations where neither party will agree on one thing. honestly you sound like a tumblr feminist to me, completely oblivious to the story and only focuses on 'her group". Ill try to break it down as briefly as possible, and please do not expect me to reply to anymore of your posts, i am done. Youre welcome to conclude this conversation. Grey was abused, the contract (you can find it online), i dont believe it says anywhere about BDSM, its an assumption and a deduction. The contract only states dom and sub roles. He shows her the room, she asks all the questions, she asks what all of that shit does and his past experiences. He explains as much as he can, and she reads the god damn contract which describes that she is there for him for a period of time. She has control over him and she can leave at any time she wants. When you are given a contract, it is your responsibility to know what youre are signing... only your lawyer will read it for you and tell you what it is, if a lawyer isnt present, it is all up to you.... I did not say anything about her being an object, i said hes protective, just like a mother is protective of her kids. She signed a contract that stated she belongs to him, there was no wiggle room unless stated before hand. It is not a legally binding contract, its a relationship contract, we all make those verbally. BDSM is a form of a mental relief.... and then you went into rape. I wish you best of luck.
#83 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
You realise that you are exactly the same right? You too sound like tumblr feminist, if I do, so do you...
And you said he's protective of his belongings... a human should never be categorized as a beloging.
And where did I go into rape? That's really a queastion I wish to have answered. If it's about the period thing, then he also raped her since she didnt want to. If it was somewhere else I'd like to know
User avatar #51 - platinumaltaria (02/14/2015) [-]
She signs a contract without being told exactly what it entails, which is awful. BDSM relationships revolve around communication, never secrecy. The whole point is that both people are really into it. The movie is a drastic failure, the book is an abomination that continues to persuade women to engage in dangerous relationships with, to put it gently, raging psychopaths. To be fair, it does play to the ultimate female fantasy; taming a man who is otherwise uncontrollable.
#57 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
Don't forget that she hadn't had sex before she signed the contract, and so she didn't have the necessary knowledge to actually set up her own rules.
Or that he more than once oversteps the boundaries of the parts of the contract they had.
#42 - anonexplains (02/14/2015) [-]
You obviously didn't read the book faggot
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