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|#33 - Im pro pot but Patrick Kennedy( the guy he interviewed)gave on… [+] (19 new replies)||04/09/2014 on Pot is a gateway drug||+3|
#44 - komandantmirkoo (04/10/2014) [-]
yeah but for how long? as soon as weed becomes widely accepted and legal everywhere, people are going to try and make the most money they can on it. product quality will drop and quantity increase. that happens to any popular product. for instance coke. coke was made from sugar but corn syrup was cheaper, so the company used it and cut it's expenses. i think it's inevitable in the long run.
#50 - AvatarAirBender (04/10/2014) [-]
I don't really think so. Its been this way in Colorado for a decade. There is so much competition, the prices are always low. There aren't very many ways to cut corners when growing marijuana. People aren't going to buy chemical covered crap, and they aren't going to buy bad bud. The biggest problem I see is smuggling mexican crap weed, and even then people aren't going to buy it.
#52 - AvatarAirBender (04/10/2014) [-]
You don't understand. There aren't ways to cut corners when growing marijuana. And if you do, people will notice a shitty product and NOT BUY IT. The point is, there are SO MANY good places to find bud. The people who produce it cheap, produce it shitty and no one buys it.
Its not like there is generic weed thats super cheap, it doesn't work like that.
#53 - komandantmirkoo (04/10/2014) [-]
i understand what you're saying. but weed like any other buissines will have investors. investors don't care about quality. they care about sales numbers. if they push the small guys out of bussines the only product that remains is the shitty one which you are forced to buy because the alternatives are few and very expensive. if it ever becomes videly accepted, weed won't defy the system just because it's weed. you can go out and buy an amazing bottle of whiskey and pay a couple hundred dollars for it. but you can also get buzzed with the $10 one from the gas station.
i think we can also expect pre-packaged joints and thc related products too. now when you think about it the market for pure marijuana buds would be kinda small because everything would be processed.
#54 - AvatarAirBender (04/10/2014) [-]
Again, if they cut corners to save money, and make a shitty product, people will not buy it. Marijuana isn't like other products. You aren't grasping that. If you lived around here you might understand better.
The prices for marijuana here are even cheaper than smuggled weed, and the quality is about 10x better. With marijuana, the cheap shit wont get you high. Its not a taste thing like alcohol. If I want to get drunk, im not going to spend 100 dollars on a bottle of whiskey, because I can get drunk off the 7 dollar bottle. But with Marijuana, it isnt like that. You buy the mexican crap weed and you wont get high, but you buy the real stuff and it gets you high.
I think you are thinking like this is a new business, when it isn't at all. There are already tons of investors investing in the dispensaries and recreational stores around here, the price isn't changing. There is so much competition, and so many different places to buy it. No one is going to want to go to the walmart of weed to buy what every one else has. The time old business plan/monopoly just wont work with marijuana.
Im not judging, but Im going to guess you don't smoke much or at all? The marijuana industry is a very different industry from the rest of them.
#55 - komandantmirkoo (04/10/2014) [-]
i come from a family of sentenced dealers so i know a little bit, but i admit im not much of a smoker myself. im just saying it's a matter of time before little shops get centralized into some monstrosity. it's innevitable. also i'm not saying that cheap weed would be weak. they could easily pump it with some synthetic bullcrap that makes it stronger. not everyone has the money to buy really good weed, and im guessing the strongest demography of smokers are college students and young adults who are not exactly known for high income. you're also forgeting that farmers would switch to growing weed in an instant if it became more profitable than let's say corn. dispensaries are not the point that i'm arguing. it's the growing process and pushing quantity over quality.
#56 - AvatarAirBender (04/10/2014) [-]
But when you push quantity over quality you end up having to sell it super cheap. And you wont make any money doing that, which brings my back to my first point, that it wont happen like that. I highly, HIGHLY doubt that any synthetic marijuana would be able to be sold legally. The streets already have one, its called K2. Its killed like hundreds of kids who have tried it.
I also you are seeing the prices we see here, we are already paying basically nothing for weed, how cheaper can it get? The recreational stores are selling the same weed as the dispensaries (Some are in the same building). But the kicker is that there is a 25 percent tax on it. So, its not the grower making those high prices, its the government.
#59 - komandantmirkoo (04/10/2014) [-]
yeah but my main point was that things change. the stores are selling it at a retail price, while buying it at a wholesale price which is dictated by taxes and supply and demand. higher demand = lower supply= cost goes up and vice versa. things are working for now. that was my main point. sooner or later one of the suppliers will come on top and monopolize the market. you can only pray that his product will be good.
#60 - AvatarAirBender (04/10/2014) [-]
Oh, i see where you are confused.
The dispensaries/recreational who sell it, grow it. They don't buy it from some mass distributor. So they FULLY dictate the price at which they will sell it, because they are the ones who produce it. Its not like retail stores where all the stores carry the same brands, but at different prices. Each dispensary has its own, unique product. That isn't going to change.
#62 - AvatarAirBender (04/10/2014) [-]
You don't get the laws. They legally can not buy the weed from someone else, and sell it as their own. If you want to sell it, you have to grow it YOURSELF. With oversight from the government. The laws aren't going to change, to make it easier to mass market it.
#64 - AvatarAirBender (04/10/2014) [-]
Alright bud. Whatever, you really don't get it. Come to Colorado and see how it is. The culture will not allow a mass distributor, thats not what the buyers want. Its like the automotive industry, you would be pissed if we all had to buy Toyota's and nothing else right? Because of the culture, there isn't room for Monopolies.
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