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|#159 - Don't get your panties in a bundle, all charges have been dropped. [+] (10 new replies)||09/25/2013 on So this happened.||+2|
#186 - organiclead (09/25/2013) [-]
How's that unjustly? He was told to leave, he didn't. He had to get escorted out by a police officer.
While I don't think the school handled it well, I don't think this is a very clean cut case. In fact, the video reminds me a little bit of the infamous "don't tase me bro" incident.
#226 - psydoc (09/25/2013) [-]
Unjustly in that if the charges weren't warranted (as suggested by them dropping them).
I don't think the arrest was very clean cut either. I think he had an argument about being able to be there since it was (if it was) a public forum. There's also a question of whether or not the police officer had the authority to even force him to leave. I mean he doesn't own or run the school, so someone else had ultimate authority to make that decision. I have a feeling that person wasn't even consulted before hand. I actually believe police officers should never be allowed to work as security guards. I think it's a conflict of interests. If I had my way it would not be allowed.
As far as letting him say his peace though. I think they should have just let him speak, then answered his question. He's a stakeholder in the school, and I think he deserves to have his questions answered.
#234 - organiclead (09/25/2013) [-]
I really don't think it would have been a good choice, to be honest. You let him say his piece, then you get a bunch of other pissed off off that they didn't get to say their piece. That leads to a riot and this disruption turns into something that causes actual injury.
Granted, I also don't have a good view of people in general as soon as we have the established rules pulled out form under our feet.
#243 - psydoc (09/25/2013) [-]
Actually in retrospect, I think the administrators were at least claiming they were going to answer his question. I think maybe the security guard just jumped the gun. It they promised to get to everyone's questions, then I view that as a reasonable solution. I also view it as a reasonable solution to move to just calling on people and letting them voice their questions.
I think if I were in charge, I would have told the security guard that we're not kicking anyone out. Then let the guy know how many other questions were in front of his, and promised I wouldn't leave until we got to his question.
I think you have to admit though that a parent advocating for their child shouldn't turn into an arrest. More importantly though, this wouldn't have ever been a problem if we had school choice.
#254 - organiclead (09/25/2013) [-]
That would have been the better way to hand it all around.
It's also kind of screwed up that his concern lead to an arrest, but I can still see why someone would want to jump the gun to keep someone from riling up the audience. I don't think anyone here was an evil, mustache twirling horrible person, just a bunch of people who all made mistakes, even Small himself. They tried to say something a few times during his soapboxing, and I think it wouldn't have caused as much of an issue if he had stopped to listen.
#262 - psydoc (09/25/2013) [-]
I can't argue with that. It also occurs to me that the security may have been on edge because it looked like they were trying to have some kind of demonstration. Still, if I were in charge I'd just walk out and reschedule the forum before arresting anyone. Maybe then I'd meet with the people "causing problems" privately to listen to their concerns, then bar them from the next forum so that everyone else has a chance.
That's just me though. I wouldn't want to see someone arrested over a non-violent dispute (even if they're yelling at me), and I'd cancel the meeting first.
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