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#148 - To be fair, there's also the theory that, although ISIS is cla…  [+] (5 new replies) 07/26/2016 on Anon on the recent machete... +1
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#154 - Nekatroz (07/26/2016) [-]
A few months ago I commented before on how extremely convenient is to have ISIS around for the First World countries. Risking myself to be called conspiracy theorist, and thus, a skinnier Alex Jones, I leave that comment.

For starters, there has been a lot of stuff related to associating DAESH (calling them ISIS is a way to legitimize their actions as a state) with US funding. The thing with training, weapons and general logistics have been going on for a while.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq
www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881

In a second thing, the area of Sirya has a geopolitcal importance that dates back to the Cold War; not only because its access to oil, but because its borders, among other things. The importance of Syria as a leverage of power goes back into suggesting that you can control pretty much the whole middle east by taking power there, and given that Israel, Saudi Arabia and Turkey are NATO allies, and being Iran and Syria, Russian allias, it seems that this shit has keeps going.
www.news-decoder.com/2015/10/06/why-syria-is-so-important2/
www.businessinsider.com/russias-big-move-in-the-middle-east-2015-9
www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881
jah.oxfordjournals.org/content/99/1/208.full

Last, but no least, it is related to the function of refugees. Currently, Europe and US (China and Japan too, but are not current players) are facing an economical crisis that strives in a way disproportionate amount of state backed benefits and a de-industrialization of their economies, related to the higher wages of unionzed and better educated workers, and because of that, a reduced labor market. Japan has already implemented policies in education to add more technical workers ( www.theguardian.com/higher-education-network/2015/sep/25/japans-humanities-chop-sends-shivers-down-academic-spines ), and that's why outsourcing and lower wages have become a common lingo in political debates.

Now, the double function of DAESH is not only debilitating the power of Russia in the Middle East, but create a group of cheap labor workers for this countries. Now, of course, a sudden and uncontrolled migration calls for a lack of assimilation into the new country (including murdery stuff in the Q'oran and the animalistic reaction towards women that arent covered by curtains), creates a mass of uneducated potential (if not already) marginalized refugees. Of course, given the little job opportunities and the benefits given by the welfare state, you have economical leeches that rely on either sitting in their homes waiting for the money or thievery and vandalism.

Now, since the 2008's crisis, there have been a strong position of the first world working classes to have better jobs or just having them (the ascending unemployment is startling), thus, being distrusting of common polititians of the bipartisan system. Of course, that gave a great support to either far left or far right movements and parties, and with a little more accent in the former.

Of course, rather than a sudden surge of "intolerance", I think of this as a engineered social crisis, in which leaders like Merkel deliberately make a blind eye to refugees fuck-ups in order to keep them without control and make more powerful the xenophobic groups; this way, this cheap labor worker wont count with support for asking either political rights or labor rights when the dust settles.
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#196 - chokolocco (07/27/2016) [-]
I.. can you refrain from using complicated sentences in questionable ways and just convey your points in a comprehensive manner?
I read your paragraphs 3 times and every time I get to near the bottom of it I lose you.
Do you simply mean that these 1st world countries kinda wished for an influx of refugees, hoping they would work for low pays in their ever growing expensive labour market?
BTW where do you come from your English is really confusing
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#203 - Nekatroz (07/27/2016) [-]
I'm a spanish speaker, and mostly, self-taught english speaker.

"Do you simply mean that these 1st world countries kinda wished for an influx of refugees, hoping they would work for low pays in their ever growing expensive labour market?"

That and the geopolitical issue of Russia presence in the Middle East, through Syria.

Killing two birds with one stone, 1st world countries got oil, cheap labor and "less Russia" in the map.
#177 - anon (07/26/2016) [-]
So... WTF was your point with all that?
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#180 - Nekatroz (07/26/2016) [-]
Albeit, not completely staged, the existence of ISIS is extremely convenient for our dear leaders, and they are doing their best to keep it around as long they need to.
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#1218445 - kothaex (07/17/2016) [-]
so
being in the position of having watched 1's anime (and enjoying it) and nothing else
what do i do
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#490 - I give England one year. Because by then, Scotland has lef… 06/24/2016 on RIP EU +4