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#31 - No, thats terrible logic. That means abortion must either be w…  [+] (9 replies) 11/08/2016 on division +2
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#36 - limberlarry (11/08/2016) [-]
The argument is that abortion is murder. If that is really the case then its never ok. If its not murder, then its ok under any circumstance
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#65 - alarubra (11/08/2016) [-]
Abortion at the point it is currently legal to perform is not murder because a fully functioning life with real brain activity hasn't actually formed yet. You aren't ending a sentient life, you're preventing one. It's no different than the morning after pill,from a moral standpoint.
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#105 - limberlarry (11/08/2016) [-]
I'm not arguing as to which position is correct, just framing the argument as it usually is. Those against abortion claim that aborition is equavlent to/is murder, those in favour claim that it is not.

I was pointing out the logical consequences of characterising it as murder
#90 - anon (11/08/2016) [-]
the moral standpoint is different for everyone but no one really thinks it is equal to the pill
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#72 - elsanna (11/08/2016) [-]
My problem is that even on day 1 of a baby's life, they are incapable of taking care of themselves and have no complex thought.
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#73 - alarubra (11/08/2016) [-]
But they have brain activity, and an awareness of their surroundings. They're a sentient being, just in an early stage of life.
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#74 - elsanna (11/08/2016) [-]
But at that point you're still losing nothing on day 1.

And how is a fetus not a sentient being in an early stage of life? Just because it isn't sentient yet doesn't mean it isn't going to become one.
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#75 - alarubra (11/08/2016) [-]
"You aren't ending a sentient life, you're preventing one." It's brain activity that's the real big line for me. I don't see an abortion pre-brain activity as murder, because you're not ending a mind that's already forming, you're just stopping one from existing in the first place. (Same as if you stopped someone from getting pregnant in the first place by wearing a condom, or taking birth control/morning after pills.) Once that mind starts forming though, you're no longer preventing life, you're ending it.
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#76 - elsanna (11/08/2016) [-]
>because you're not ending a mind that's already forming

You are doing exactly that. To the letter. By aborting a fetus you are ending a mind that is forming. The process has begun and nothing can stop it short of intentional intervention or a medical problem. There is no functional difference between stopping a sentient life from forming and ending it after it has formed.

Millions of sperm die a day. Most women's eggs fall out of them without being used. These are processes that would happen no matter what, you can not possibly use all your eggs or all your sperm. Saying "using the condom is the same as abortion" is ridiculous, because for that to be true then not doing your absolute best to impregnate as many women as possible every day would be the same as abortion because you're wasting sperm/eggs.

The morning after pill is nearly the same as abortion, but it's a grey area, because there was no guarantee that a life was going to form.
#8 - Thats a dangerous game. I remember some frat guy went to visi…  [+] (1 reply) 11/08/2016 on They just loved having them... +24
#46 - anon (11/08/2016) [-]
that happend like a year ago, but yeah...years...
#38 - Its actually the end of the bar for the machine behind him  [+] (2 replies) 10/06/2016 on Girl +4
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#43 - gammelmand (10/06/2016) [-]
Well observed my good fella
#39 - cooletto (10/06/2016) [-]
#36 - Then I will share with you what I learned by spending too much…  [+] (4 replies) 10/06/2016 on Girl +4
#37 - gammelmand (10/06/2016) [-]
Might i inquire how you came to that conclusion?
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#38 - oceanmist (10/06/2016) [-]
Its actually the end of the bar for the machine behind him
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#43 - gammelmand (10/06/2016) [-]
Well observed my good fella
#39 - cooletto (10/06/2016) [-]
#27 - I spent way too much time wondering why that guy brought a hea…  [+] (7 replies) 10/06/2016 on Girl +3
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#41 - tittylovin (10/06/2016) [-]
Maybe bluetooths don't sit right in his ears. Nigga's just chilling, let him be.
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#33 - gammelmand (10/06/2016) [-]
Gym instructor? Not all things are complicated bruh
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#36 - oceanmist (10/06/2016) [-]
Then I will share with you what I learned by spending too much time - its not a microphone.
#37 - gammelmand (10/06/2016) [-]
Might i inquire how you came to that conclusion?
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#38 - oceanmist (10/06/2016) [-]
Its actually the end of the bar for the machine behind him
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#43 - gammelmand (10/06/2016) [-]
Well observed my good fella
#39 - cooletto (10/06/2016) [-]
#31 - Its steel though.  [+] (3 replies) 03/30/2016 on Iowa +1
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#36 - elsenortamatoe (03/30/2016) [-]
Woah, I didn't even notice. Here we use wood, and concrete mostly.
So that would come out to ~ $41250
$1.25 a pound
25 pounds a foot
10 feet per section
3 sections per frame
and 44 frames
But those are solid steel parts.
Sheet metal would be
3 sections a frame
44 frames
for a total of 128 sheets They conviently sell 4'X10' sheets

They sell for $63 a sheet, so a total of $8,064.00
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#38 - iqequalzero (03/30/2016) [-]
Did you factor work costs? Cause thats gonna be a whole heap more.
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#42 - elsenortamatoe (03/30/2016) [-]
Highest rate per welder i could find is $36.52 www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=welder%20hourly%20rate
Welding per foot is 3.5 Feet per hour up to 4.5 with best tools www.millerwelds.com/resources/communities/mboard/forum/welding-discussions/11545-weld-feet-per-hour post #7
30' of welds per frame
44 frames
=1320' of welds
That 293.33- 377.148 Man hours of welds
For a cost of welding the frames together ~ $10,712.41-$13,773.45 for assembly
Assuming ~1 hour per frame for erection www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=construction%20worker%20hourly%20wage ~$2231.68 44 hours for construction worker and 44 for welder
for a grand total of $12944.09-$16005.13
But this is assuming that you use labor not already accounted for in the original construction of the bridge.