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#69 - anon (03/28/2015) [-]
Such a shame it was so disappointing.
|#7 - Yes, cause violence is only aimed at women. [+] (40 new replies)||03/25/2015 on Justice||+115|
#50 - perzona (03/26/2015) [-]
#93 - lolgonewrong (03/26/2015) [-]
THATS LITERALLY WHAT JOKER DOES
AND ITS BEEN DONE TO BATMAN TOO
BATMANS BEEN BROUGHT TO TEARS BEFORE.
HE BREAKS PEOPLE AND BRINGS OUT THE WORST IN THEM
AND THIS ISEN'T EVEN CLOSE TO THE WORST THINGS JOKER HAS DONE
WHAT IF THIS WAS SOME OTHER STRONG DC CHARACTER?
#157 - angelusprimus (03/26/2015) [-]
So basically what you are saying is:
"I don't read these comics, I don't know much if anything about the characters, but I understand what the controversy is about and you idiots don't"
Except my friend, I've been reading this comics for decades and the problem isn't the cover. Problem are people like you who don't know the full backstory of the characters, don't know the history of the comics and get offended for seeing her scared and freaked out by the Joker. Even though its the Joker month of alternate covers and half the characters in them are in similar situations.
And now you are trying to shift the narative that "cover doesn't represent what's in the comic acurately" Which is true. Its also irrelevant since alt covers are mainly for the collectors and rarely if ever have much to do with whats in the comic. Few years ago every alt cover had main characters as babies. And no one was babified in the comic.
You pulled Jason Todd as an example of how male characters are not treated like that, which shown you never actually read those comics, because Jason Todd very much came back heavily traumatized. And ended up unable to even move when he thought Joker will kill him again.
People like you, people who know shit about the topic, are only reason controversy exists. People who actually read the comics know the backstory, know what alt covers are and know why this cover should never have been controversial at all.
#162 - perzona (03/26/2015) [-]
I've read the news stories on this, feminists are complaining that it's a cover that makes her character seem weak, not that violence against women is bad.
I admit that their argument is dumb, there are plenty of other superheroes who have been broken down like she was, but making a fake complaint that they made about it being under controversy for showing violence against women just to fit your argument like he did is just as dumb.
#167 - angelusprimus (03/26/2015) [-]
Problem is, it doesn't make her look weak, it makes her look human.
Next month, when Joker alt covers come dozens of characters will be in similar situations. And no one cares. Because its JOKER, who even other villains are afraid of.
Only people who don't read comics, don't understand the character and don't want to spoil their narrative with understanding whats going on can think this is in any way controversial.
And this isn't like Ferguson. This is like someone claiming that there is a small town in New England where there is horrible racial discrimination, and when news go to the town they find one guy claiming its happening. And everyone who knows whats going on, black or white are going "Nah, that's just Mike, he got drunk and tried to grope the waitress and he got thrown out of the restorant, nothing to do with race." But journalists don't want to spoil their narrative so they still make an article claiming its racial.
#168 - perzona (03/27/2015) [-]
That's not what my initial argument was about. I just said I admit it was dumb to say other superheroes haven't been through her trauma, but what I said in the beginning was the guy was a retard for saying the controversy was about a woman being a victim in an act of violence.
#172 - angelusprimus (03/27/2015) [-]
Because I've read about two dozen articles like this:
Which say otherwise.
#173 - perzona (03/27/2015) [-]
It was a cover that payed homage to a time when girl characters were merely love interests and damsels in distress, a time that feminists don't want to remember. They aren't mad that she was beaten up so there's no point in the comparison between that robin picture and the pulled cover.
#176 - angelusprimus (03/27/2015) [-]
"Wasn't Robin kind of beaten to death by a crowbar? I didn't see covers of him crying with a terrified look"
That's your quote by the way.
When I proven that wrong, now you are going that there is no point in comparison.
Then there is your entire claim that its because she is out of character.
Which is bullshit. In her few encounters with Joker since she was shot, she was always freaked out and terrified. Like any fucking person in the world would be when faced with a homocidal maniac that has hurt them in the past.
Like in Joker's return storyline where she is completely freaked out and terrified until Joker kidnaps her mother and she is more pissed than scared.
Literally all those things HAPPENED in the comics and only an moral outrage moron who never read any Batman or Batgirl comics could see a controversy there.
#178 - perzona (03/27/2015) [-]
Furthermore, I would be completely fine with this if he showed a picture of her crying side by side with a picture of joker psychologically breaking batman or robin with a comment like "Yes, because only women in comics are broken down on a psychological level" or something like that. But no, he changed what they were mad about to make a strawman rebuttal.
#177 - perzona (03/27/2015) [-]
The original comment was "yes, cause violence is only aimed at women" when that's not the controversy at all, so making a comparison between the two pictures he put side by side is retarded.
Their entire claim that she is out of character is retarded (I already said this), but the original comment was making fun of how they're mad that she was beaten up by joker, which isn't the case at all. The original commenter is retarded because he's bending what they said to try to make his shitty argument valid.
#181 - angelusprimus (03/27/2015) [-]
If you are only rebutting the original content, ok.
I argued with you because I thought you are supporting the reasons why this controversy exists.
Which are manufactured and don't have anything to do with actual comics, and are made by people who don't read the comics in the first place.
#79 - thedarkestrogue (03/26/2015) [-]
he fucking destroyed every aspect of her character and her life
of course shes a terrified little fucking girl
he beat her down, paralyzed her and then sent fucking pictures to her father.
If that doesnt fuck you up then there's something wrong with you.
Its not out opf character its perfectly in character.
#74 - newprinny (03/26/2015) [-]
No, no they really didn't have a point, dood. The original complaint was that it was implying violence against women and implied rape or something and they said "they never show a man being put in such a vulnerable position!" then countless examples of that very thing were shown and they moved the goalpost and said "w-well she looks scared and that is what we're angry about!"
#54 - anon (03/26/2015) [-]
He shot her in the spine...I would look terrified too if something like that happened to me...I would probably be dead too but that's another thing
#70 - monozo (03/26/2015) [-]
#29 - questionableferret (03/26/2015) [-]
Yeah, but as cool an image as that is that's not what Barbara is about in the comics, and she's also not a little bitch either. He may be the Joker but there is nothing I could think of for him to have on Barbara that would have her making that face.
It's a great image but it was the guy who drew it who figured it was a bad idea and I kinda agree. It's great and all that the Joker can strike terror into peoples hearts and he is a total fucking psycho but at the same time that picture comes at the cost of Barbara and... well... Barbara is the point of the comic, not the Joker. It's kinda like the sacrificial lion trope.
To put it in perspective, it'd be a lot cooler if it had happened when Barbara was a less experienced hero.
#58 - angelusprimus (03/26/2015) [-]
You do understand that its a Joker alternate page month and that half the characters, male as well, got a picture that shows them freaked out.
And considering what they've done with Barbara in 52, how they made her juvenile and took away her self control and maturity she had as Oracle, this is very appropriate.
#33 - questionableferret (03/26/2015) [-]
I think that was just trying -WAY- too hard... like... seriously, I fucking hate that development. Way to cripple (in more ways than one) a really cool and interesting character and push her into the background.
As for what it means in relation to Barbara and that image? Bitch, Barbara would be grabbing that arm and flipping the Joker over and then breaking every bone in his body she could get away with breaking. (Probably not, she'd be less 'Punisher' than that, but you get the sentiment.) Barbara wouldn't just fall to pieces because the Joker showed up. That's not who she was raised to be. That's not who she wants to be. That's not who she is.
Would Red Hood fall to pieces because the Joker showed up and he basically killed him? I wouldn't stand for that shit. I would love to see a series where Barbara was more fragile than she is and where that cover-page would make more sense but that's not the series we're getting and whilst it's not what I'd like best it's good enough for me.
#57 - angelusprimus (03/26/2015) [-]
Did you even READ comics at that time?
Batgirl at the time was little more than a love interest for Grayson. She was constantly losing and getting in trouble for Batman to save her.
She was a minor and fairly uninteresting character.
and then she gets crippled. And through years of stories she is made in one of the best strongest, most mature and capable characters in DC, of any gender.
And now she is about taking selfies and being late for class. She was a fucking TA and a respected scientist few years ago.
they made her less intelligent, less mature, more infantile and are now going "She is a feminine power icon!" no she fucking isn't.
Oracle was. Batgirl is now that chick in Starbucks complaining about her pumpkin latte.
Oh, and when faced with Joker, who had upper hand, Todd went into a complete panic and couldn't face him. Because, you know, men can have traumas but women can't.
#35 - urbanloser (03/26/2015) [-]
It's an alt-cover. Alt-covers are just for fun collecting. They don't have to do with what's going on in the actual comic. They put out lego variant covers all the goddamn time. It was a tribute to the time that he did in pretty much all ways fuck her up. It doesn't matter if shes all hyped up in the new 52.
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