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#327 - But i do see your point and i respect that and i bit you a goo… 08/16/2013 on gay law 0
#326 - what ive found so far is a link to a website of information on… 08/16/2013 on gay law 0
#323 - i cant seem to find much source material on it. Perhaps a requ…  [+] (1 new reply) 08/16/2013 on gay law 0
User avatar #349 - PEDOBEARKIDS (08/16/2013) [-]
yo man steal some scripture from my recent posts
#319 - ohhh i see. You dont think such a Census Exists? When …  [+] (5 new replies) 08/16/2013 on gay law 0
User avatar #320 - lolfire (08/16/2013) [-]
I'm not contending that census' were taken, I'm just saying that the "census of the entire Roman world" never happened and that people did not have to return to their birthplace for it.

I would look up the sources but I am seriously on my last few minutes of consciousness. If I can remember I'll get them for you tomorrow. But now...now is for sleep....
User avatar #327 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
But i do see your point and i respect that and i bit you a goodnight good sir ^_^
User avatar #326 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
what ive found so far is a link to a website of information on the documents whereabouts. it gives the location of the British museum and the inventory number of the document.
www.kchanson.com/ANCDOCS/greek/census.html
As far as seeing the actual document itself if you want to believe it exists you might have to contact the library or heck, even visit it i suppose haha
Theres also a wiki on it
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_of_Quirinius
i see on there the reason for dispute... I douno. It cant be disproved 100% that such census didn't exist. or the extent of it. theres support for and against it.
User avatar #323 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
i cant seem to find much source material on it. Perhaps a request from the British Library on more info would be in order.... But as far as i can see it reads: "Gaius Vibius Maximus, Prefect of Egypt (says): Seeing that the time has come for the house to house census, it is necessary to compel all those who for any cause whatsoever are residing out of their districts to return to their own homes, that they may both carry out the regular order of the census, and may also attend diligently to the cultivation of their allotments."
User avatar #349 - PEDOBEARKIDS (08/16/2013) [-]
yo man steal some scripture from my recent posts
#313 - Hm... i don think i recall... do you remember where it is so i…  [+] (8 new replies) 08/16/2013 on gay law 0
User avatar #315 - lolfire (08/16/2013) [-]
It's the birth story,

voices.yahoo.com/where-nativity-story-bible-reading-of-5113683.html

It's found in various scriptures but Luke's is the most known

www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/luke/2?lang=eng
User avatar #319 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
ohhh i see.
You dont think such a Census Exists?
When the Romans conquered Egypt in 30 B.C.E., the census was already a tried and tested feature of Egyptian bureaucracy. Scholars believe that the Romans adopted the Egyptian census system and applied similar procedures to the rest of their empire.
As far as an original document i believe is an edict of the Roman governor of Egypt in 104 C.E. A copy of that edict, now conserved in the British Library.
User avatar #320 - lolfire (08/16/2013) [-]
I'm not contending that census' were taken, I'm just saying that the "census of the entire Roman world" never happened and that people did not have to return to their birthplace for it.

I would look up the sources but I am seriously on my last few minutes of consciousness. If I can remember I'll get them for you tomorrow. But now...now is for sleep....
User avatar #327 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
But i do see your point and i respect that and i bit you a goodnight good sir ^_^
User avatar #326 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
what ive found so far is a link to a website of information on the documents whereabouts. it gives the location of the British museum and the inventory number of the document.
www.kchanson.com/ANCDOCS/greek/census.html
As far as seeing the actual document itself if you want to believe it exists you might have to contact the library or heck, even visit it i suppose haha
Theres also a wiki on it
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_of_Quirinius
i see on there the reason for dispute... I douno. It cant be disproved 100% that such census didn't exist. or the extent of it. theres support for and against it.
User avatar #323 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
i cant seem to find much source material on it. Perhaps a request from the British Library on more info would be in order.... But as far as i can see it reads: "Gaius Vibius Maximus, Prefect of Egypt (says): Seeing that the time has come for the house to house census, it is necessary to compel all those who for any cause whatsoever are residing out of their districts to return to their own homes, that they may both carry out the regular order of the census, and may also attend diligently to the cultivation of their allotments."
User avatar #349 - PEDOBEARKIDS (08/16/2013) [-]
yo man steal some scripture from my recent posts
#314 - lolfire has deleted their comment.
#310 - What do you mean by census? are you talking about the ancestry…  [+] (10 new replies) 08/16/2013 on gay law 0
User avatar #311 - lolfire (08/16/2013) [-]
No, I meant the census in the bible that required Mary and Joseph to return to Bethlehem.
User avatar #313 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
Hm... i don think i recall... do you remember where it is so i can take a look?
User avatar #315 - lolfire (08/16/2013) [-]
It's the birth story,

voices.yahoo.com/where-nativity-story-bible-reading-of-5113683.html

It's found in various scriptures but Luke's is the most known

www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/luke/2?lang=eng
User avatar #319 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
ohhh i see.
You dont think such a Census Exists?
When the Romans conquered Egypt in 30 B.C.E., the census was already a tried and tested feature of Egyptian bureaucracy. Scholars believe that the Romans adopted the Egyptian census system and applied similar procedures to the rest of their empire.
As far as an original document i believe is an edict of the Roman governor of Egypt in 104 C.E. A copy of that edict, now conserved in the British Library.
User avatar #320 - lolfire (08/16/2013) [-]
I'm not contending that census' were taken, I'm just saying that the "census of the entire Roman world" never happened and that people did not have to return to their birthplace for it.

I would look up the sources but I am seriously on my last few minutes of consciousness. If I can remember I'll get them for you tomorrow. But now...now is for sleep....
User avatar #327 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
But i do see your point and i respect that and i bit you a goodnight good sir ^_^
User avatar #326 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
what ive found so far is a link to a website of information on the documents whereabouts. it gives the location of the British museum and the inventory number of the document.
www.kchanson.com/ANCDOCS/greek/census.html
As far as seeing the actual document itself if you want to believe it exists you might have to contact the library or heck, even visit it i suppose haha
Theres also a wiki on it
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_of_Quirinius
i see on there the reason for dispute... I douno. It cant be disproved 100% that such census didn't exist. or the extent of it. theres support for and against it.
User avatar #323 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
i cant seem to find much source material on it. Perhaps a request from the British Library on more info would be in order.... But as far as i can see it reads: "Gaius Vibius Maximus, Prefect of Egypt (says): Seeing that the time has come for the house to house census, it is necessary to compel all those who for any cause whatsoever are residing out of their districts to return to their own homes, that they may both carry out the regular order of the census, and may also attend diligently to the cultivation of their allotments."
User avatar #349 - PEDOBEARKIDS (08/16/2013) [-]
yo man steal some scripture from my recent posts
#314 - lolfire has deleted their comment.
#305 - Im very sorry i didnt mean when i said "Everyone has thei… 08/16/2013 on gay law 0
#302 - Well i see where you're coming from... at first glance the bib…  [+] (13 new replies) 08/16/2013 on gay law 0
User avatar #309 - lolfire (08/16/2013) [-]
However, I am very, very drunk so i shall be falling asleep right about now.
User avatar #306 - lolfire (08/16/2013) [-]
History can be altered.

Things are changed to fit the prophecies.
For example, the census that brought Mary and Joseph to their home town ?
Never happened.

There was no census of the entire Roman world, and the idea that each would have to return to their birth town is ridiculous. It was changed so that the "messiah" could be born from "the stem of Jesse"
It lies in ruins because anyone who tries to develop land there is berated and sometimes killed by religious fanatics.
People have known the Earth was round of thousands of years. The Egyptians knew it, the Mayans knew it, basically everyone knew it. The whole "They thought the Earth was flat" is just nonsense.

I tend to draw my knowledge of life from outside a single piece of secondary evidence recorded centuries after any of the events apparently took place.
And as they had no knowledge of mental health back then then "visions" and hearing "god's voice" are as simple as marking them down as malfunctioning auditory and visual centers in the brain which happened to be taken seriously.

But, each to their own and I'm not going to berate you for your beliefs.
User avatar #310 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
What do you mean by census? are you talking about the ancestry line from Adam to Jesus?
User avatar #311 - lolfire (08/16/2013) [-]
No, I meant the census in the bible that required Mary and Joseph to return to Bethlehem.
User avatar #313 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
Hm... i don think i recall... do you remember where it is so i can take a look?
User avatar #315 - lolfire (08/16/2013) [-]
It's the birth story,

voices.yahoo.com/where-nativity-story-bible-reading-of-5113683.html

It's found in various scriptures but Luke's is the most known

www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/luke/2?lang=eng
User avatar #319 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
ohhh i see.
You dont think such a Census Exists?
When the Romans conquered Egypt in 30 B.C.E., the census was already a tried and tested feature of Egyptian bureaucracy. Scholars believe that the Romans adopted the Egyptian census system and applied similar procedures to the rest of their empire.
As far as an original document i believe is an edict of the Roman governor of Egypt in 104 C.E. A copy of that edict, now conserved in the British Library.
User avatar #320 - lolfire (08/16/2013) [-]
I'm not contending that census' were taken, I'm just saying that the "census of the entire Roman world" never happened and that people did not have to return to their birthplace for it.

I would look up the sources but I am seriously on my last few minutes of consciousness. If I can remember I'll get them for you tomorrow. But now...now is for sleep....
User avatar #327 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
But i do see your point and i respect that and i bit you a goodnight good sir ^_^
User avatar #326 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
what ive found so far is a link to a website of information on the documents whereabouts. it gives the location of the British museum and the inventory number of the document.
www.kchanson.com/ANCDOCS/greek/census.html
As far as seeing the actual document itself if you want to believe it exists you might have to contact the library or heck, even visit it i suppose haha
Theres also a wiki on it
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_of_Quirinius
i see on there the reason for dispute... I douno. It cant be disproved 100% that such census didn't exist. or the extent of it. theres support for and against it.
User avatar #323 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
i cant seem to find much source material on it. Perhaps a request from the British Library on more info would be in order.... But as far as i can see it reads: "Gaius Vibius Maximus, Prefect of Egypt (says): Seeing that the time has come for the house to house census, it is necessary to compel all those who for any cause whatsoever are residing out of their districts to return to their own homes, that they may both carry out the regular order of the census, and may also attend diligently to the cultivation of their allotments."
User avatar #349 - PEDOBEARKIDS (08/16/2013) [-]
yo man steal some scripture from my recent posts
#314 - lolfire has deleted their comment.
#285 - True Jesus himself never said anything about homosexuality. Ho…  [+] (17 new replies) 08/16/2013 on gay law 0
User avatar #290 - lolfire (08/16/2013) [-]
(it's just a book, it's not supposed to be taken literally)
User avatar #343 - PEDOBEARKIDS (08/16/2013) [-]
thank you now i know not to believe my history book at school because its just a book
User avatar #305 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
Im very sorry i didnt mean when i said "Everyone has their own opinion" to come across as rude...
I respect everyones beliefs ^_^
But at the same time i want to share clarification with people some misconceptions that pop up about the bible some times
User avatar #302 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
Well i see where you're coming from... at first glance the bible does just seem like a story book.
But the more you look the more you see about Prophecies that were fulfilled such as the destruction of Babylon which was foretold 200 years of years ahead of time. It even was foretold exactly how it would be taken and even the very king Cyrus who would take it.
And it even said that it would never be inhabited again ever. Isaiah 13:20 "She will never be inhabited, nor will she reside for generation after generation"
And it still isn't down to this day. the Ancient city of Babylon still lies in ruins uninhabited.
Also the Bible says that the earth is round WAY before it was ever conceived of being so Isiah 40:22 "There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth"
Also that the earth floats in space and hangs on nothing. - Job 26:7 "He is stretching out the north over the empty place, Hanging the earth upon nothing"
Everyone has their own opinion but i myself see the bible as extremely accurate and true.
User avatar #309 - lolfire (08/16/2013) [-]
However, I am very, very drunk so i shall be falling asleep right about now.
User avatar #306 - lolfire (08/16/2013) [-]
History can be altered.

Things are changed to fit the prophecies.
For example, the census that brought Mary and Joseph to their home town ?
Never happened.

There was no census of the entire Roman world, and the idea that each would have to return to their birth town is ridiculous. It was changed so that the "messiah" could be born from "the stem of Jesse"
It lies in ruins because anyone who tries to develop land there is berated and sometimes killed by religious fanatics.
People have known the Earth was round of thousands of years. The Egyptians knew it, the Mayans knew it, basically everyone knew it. The whole "They thought the Earth was flat" is just nonsense.

I tend to draw my knowledge of life from outside a single piece of secondary evidence recorded centuries after any of the events apparently took place.
And as they had no knowledge of mental health back then then "visions" and hearing "god's voice" are as simple as marking them down as malfunctioning auditory and visual centers in the brain which happened to be taken seriously.

But, each to their own and I'm not going to berate you for your beliefs.
User avatar #310 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
What do you mean by census? are you talking about the ancestry line from Adam to Jesus?
User avatar #311 - lolfire (08/16/2013) [-]
No, I meant the census in the bible that required Mary and Joseph to return to Bethlehem.
User avatar #313 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
Hm... i don think i recall... do you remember where it is so i can take a look?
User avatar #315 - lolfire (08/16/2013) [-]
It's the birth story,

voices.yahoo.com/where-nativity-story-bible-reading-of-5113683.html

It's found in various scriptures but Luke's is the most known

www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/luke/2?lang=eng
User avatar #319 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
ohhh i see.
You dont think such a Census Exists?
When the Romans conquered Egypt in 30 B.C.E., the census was already a tried and tested feature of Egyptian bureaucracy. Scholars believe that the Romans adopted the Egyptian census system and applied similar procedures to the rest of their empire.
As far as an original document i believe is an edict of the Roman governor of Egypt in 104 C.E. A copy of that edict, now conserved in the British Library.
User avatar #320 - lolfire (08/16/2013) [-]
I'm not contending that census' were taken, I'm just saying that the "census of the entire Roman world" never happened and that people did not have to return to their birthplace for it.

I would look up the sources but I am seriously on my last few minutes of consciousness. If I can remember I'll get them for you tomorrow. But now...now is for sleep....
User avatar #327 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
But i do see your point and i respect that and i bit you a goodnight good sir ^_^
User avatar #326 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
what ive found so far is a link to a website of information on the documents whereabouts. it gives the location of the British museum and the inventory number of the document.
www.kchanson.com/ANCDOCS/greek/census.html
As far as seeing the actual document itself if you want to believe it exists you might have to contact the library or heck, even visit it i suppose haha
Theres also a wiki on it
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_of_Quirinius
i see on there the reason for dispute... I douno. It cant be disproved 100% that such census didn't exist. or the extent of it. theres support for and against it.
User avatar #323 - mathalomule (08/16/2013) [-]
i cant seem to find much source material on it. Perhaps a request from the British Library on more info would be in order.... But as far as i can see it reads: "Gaius Vibius Maximus, Prefect of Egypt (says): Seeing that the time has come for the house to house census, it is necessary to compel all those who for any cause whatsoever are residing out of their districts to return to their own homes, that they may both carry out the regular order of the census, and may also attend diligently to the cultivation of their allotments."
User avatar #349 - PEDOBEARKIDS (08/16/2013) [-]
yo man steal some scripture from my recent posts
#314 - lolfire has deleted their comment.
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