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#136974 - If Trump just doesn't send me to war against Russia then I'll …  [+] (2 replies) 12/01/2016 on Politics - politics news,... 0
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#136975 - nigalthornberry (12/01/2016) [-]
I don't expect any real wars in the next few years
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#136977 - marinepenguin (12/01/2016) [-]
Hope you're right.
#136968 - There hasn't anyone more revered in the US military than him s…  [+] (4 replies) 12/01/2016 on Politics - politics news,... 0
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#136973 - nigalthornberry (12/01/2016) [-]
I feel so patriotic right now
I've had a shitty few months but Trump and all of this happening makes up for it
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#136974 - marinepenguin (12/01/2016) [-]
If Trump just doesn't send me to war against Russia then I'll have considered it a successful 4-8 years.
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#136975 - nigalthornberry (12/01/2016) [-]
I don't expect any real wars in the next few years
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#136977 - marinepenguin (12/01/2016) [-]
Hope you're right.
#136966 - General "mad dog" Mattis is now officially going to …  [+] (12 replies) 12/01/2016 on Politics - politics news,... +2
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#136979 - seniorawesomesauce (12/02/2016) [-]
Can't wait to hear about how he's racist, sexist, xenophobic, islamophobic and all around deplorable.
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#136980 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Right wing death squads inbound
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#136970 - feelythefeel (12/01/2016) [-]
Do you think Trudeau would actually let me if I offered to fuck his wife? No joke?
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#136983 - pebar (12/02/2016) [-]
No
he's a meme and nothing more
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#136972 - nigalthornberry (12/01/2016) [-]
If you say you're at minority at a disadvantage then he'll watch you do it
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#136976 - feelythefeel (12/01/2016) [-]
I identify as a black pansexual genderqueer.
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#136967 - nigalthornberry (12/01/2016) [-]
Aw fuck yes
#136968 - marinepenguin (12/01/2016) [-]
There hasn't anyone more revered in the US military than him since Chesty.


Most men would follow him onto the beaches of Normandy with nothing more than a squirt gun.
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#136973 - nigalthornberry (12/01/2016) [-]
I feel so patriotic right now
I've had a shitty few months but Trump and all of this happening makes up for it
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#136974 - marinepenguin (12/01/2016) [-]
If Trump just doesn't send me to war against Russia then I'll have considered it a successful 4-8 years.
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#136975 - nigalthornberry (12/01/2016) [-]
I don't expect any real wars in the next few years
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#136977 - marinepenguin (12/01/2016) [-]
Hope you're right.
#136965 - Yes, yes, yes, and yes. And not really. Going to pla…  [+] (1 reply) 12/01/2016 on Politics - politics news,... 0
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#136985 - theism (12/02/2016) [-]
Dismissing the conduct on the core meeting places of a movement because they're "known for racism and insensitivity" and then denying that this reflects on the movement isn't a very good argument. These places are the mainstream for the alt right and have a culture built more or less on bigotry, how does this not demonstrate racism in that community?
#136963 - Same reasons that the SJWs of the left seem to be a far larger…  [+] (3 replies) 12/01/2016 on Politics - politics news,... 0
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#136964 - theism (12/01/2016) [-]
Have you ever been to pol? Any redpill subreddit? Have you read the comments on any redpill post? Do you read breitbart? Theres quite a bit of full blown racism out there and definitely on this site.
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#136965 - marinepenguin (12/01/2016) [-]
Yes, yes, yes, and yes. And not really.

Going to places that are specifically known for their insensitivity and racism, and using them as your examples for broader racism on the internet isn't a good argument. Just because I can find a couple tumblr blogs calling for the extermination of white men doesn't mean that the whole site of tumblr even remotely agrees with it.

I don't also don't treat Breitbart as a legitimate news source, but I follow them to a degree and I don't find anything racist about them. They deal in satirical and almost clickbait headlines to purposefully get people riled up.
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#136985 - theism (12/02/2016) [-]
Dismissing the conduct on the core meeting places of a movement because they're "known for racism and insensitivity" and then denying that this reflects on the movement isn't a very good argument. These places are the mainstream for the alt right and have a culture built more or less on bigotry, how does this not demonstrate racism in that community?
#136948 - Huh, interesting. I've only really seen the alt-righ…  [+] (2 replies) 12/01/2016 on Politics - politics news,... 0
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#136951 - figatron (12/01/2016) [-]
I was just going off my experiences with people in real life. I spent a lot of time in conservative groups in college and at the time it was during the Tea Party era and most young conservatives were a fan of Ron Paul and had a renewed interest in liberty. The younger generation of republicans cared much less about banning drugs, and gay marriage than the older ones did. On the internet though it does seem like a lot of young people are getting into the alt right movement but I haven't really seen it irl.
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#136954 - marinepenguin (12/01/2016) [-]
Well I haven't either, I definitely have seen many older folks who are disenfranchised with both parties and voted for Trump just as kind of a middle finger to them, but I wouldn't qualify them quite as "alt-right". Or maybe you could, I don't know.
#136947 - The first two things you mentioned pertain the large minority …  [+] (3 replies) 12/01/2016 on Politics - politics news,... 0
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#136955 - whoozy (12/01/2016) [-]
I don't feel like I'm doing you justice right now, but I have to leave now and get some stuff done.

I agree with a lot of what you say and disagree with some.

Before I go there is just one thing I want to briefly comment on. I very much agree that we need a form of middle ground. Going too far left is bad. Going too far right is also bad. If we can strike a balance then perhaps we eventually can calm the eternal conflict of the left and right.
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#136949 - whoozy (12/01/2016) [-]
Glad we agree on the first points at least.

I'm not going to hide anything to make my views look good.
You're absolutely right. Government companies is inherently more costly and inefficient than private business. Private insurance will be cheaper and more effective. That being said I've never seen a society where "everyone" can afford healthcare on their own. There's ALWAYS outliers. I think it's very wrong to just let these outliers suffer.
Insurance companies HAVE to make a profit. This is why life becomes hell for people with expensive conditions.

This is why I support both. We have a pretty good free healthcare system and an even better, but expensive private sector. If you want free healthcare you'll have to accept that it's slower and less efficient. If you want it faster you're more than free to pay for it yourself.

I wasn't aware that it was a difference between the two (the debt based currency and capitalism). I have a hard time imagining capitalism without it.
One of the main problems with unchecked capitalism is that we produce way more than we need. A lot of resources are just thrown away. It is no secret that we're reaching the limit of what our planet can handle.
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#136953 - marinepenguin (12/01/2016) [-]
I've always believed that one role of government is to provide a safety net for the most impoverished or the disabled. My problem is with a massive welfare state.

Well sure, but in an largely unregulated society I believe that the number of people who can't afford these things will become smaller. Again, the most impoverished people should have some sort of option to try and lead them to a greater quality of life.

That's a decent middle ground, there are similar systems in Canada I'm pretty sure, but I still see it as a largely immoral practice to take money from citizens who would otherwise want to opt out of such a system. I also think that the poor tend to fare better from individual and private charity from a more free society, compared to government welfare.

Well yeah, there are plenty of countries who have debt based currencies that are largely not capitalistic, the EU nations are an example of that. I highly doubt that even Norway has a currency based on something like Gold or Silver.

A surplus of product should be a great thing about Capitalism! The fact that we produce far more than we need ISN'T a problem, the problem of being inefficient with these resources is a problem of society in general, not an economic one. If we learned to make the most of the abundance of resources that we are able to produce, we would be able to far more easily increase our "bottom line" of our quality of life for the most abject poor.
#136943 - I don't think pure capitalism is a 100% great either. But the …  [+] (7 replies) 12/01/2016 on Politics - politics news,... 0
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#136944 - whoozy (12/01/2016) [-]
I don't believe it does. For example I think healthcare should be free for everyone. It's unfair for a person to be screwed over financially for life if they happen to be born with an expensive illness. Life always comes before money for me.

If someone can't get a job I believe they should be given the the minimum for a decent life. We have more than enough money to pay for that. The poor are treated awfully in most of the world. I think we can do better.

One last thing about capitalism that it's important to remember is that it is dependent on continuous growth.
Sooner or later we have to stop growing. There isn't infinite resources.
Sooner or later it has to stop.
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#136950 - figatron (12/01/2016) [-]
Heathcare isn't free regardless. There's no such thing as free. The easiest way to make healthcare cheaper for everyone is to dismantle the huge relationship between government and insurance companies. We might be better off eliminating insurance altogether(except for a minimal catastrophic care package). You go into a doctor's office and pay for what you need. It makes costs more flexible for doctor and patient.

That drives up costs for everyone. A man who flunked out of high school gets paid $30,000 a year because he deserves a decent life and doesn't work because why should he? Costs of living must necessarily go up because now demand has gone up because the poor can now afford new things. What happens to an entry level college graduate who used to work for the same wage but now must also do so with an increase in the cost of living? Someone who had a good academic record and did everything he was supposed to must now live in semi-poverty barely affording rent and food.

That third thing has largely been proven false. They've been saying ability to produce food will not keep up with population growth since Malthus hundreds of years ago. The point where we do not produce enough for the population has never even come close to being true. The reason is the technological innovation makes food production more efficient and new ways to produce goods become available. Scarcity won't be the death of capitalism, it's the very reason it works.
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#136952 - whoozy (12/01/2016) [-]
Of course not. Everyone understands this. A collective safety net just makes sure that the poorest of us still get help. No one is left to suffering. Your system would be fine for those that can afford what they need. If you can't... well you've got a whole lot of pain ahead of you.

When I said a decent life I meant enough to get by with some sort of dignity. People want to work because jobs pay A LOT more than not working. I think you'll find that those with a good academic record is very grateful for this system. A lot of them wouldn't have been able to go to university without it.

False how? Population has shown absolutely no sign of slowing down. We're growing exponentially faster every year. The rainforests are dying quicker than ever.
Even of you disregard all of this it should be obvious that a planet can only provide a set amount of resources. We cannot have as many humans on the planet as we want.
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#136947 - marinepenguin (12/01/2016) [-]
The first two things you mentioned pertain the large minority of people, in terms of those who are terminally ill or can't get a job due to health concerns. That's where the idea of a safety net SHOULD be used.

My whole problem with government sponsored ANYTHING is that it's always more costly and inefficient compared to private options. I don't want "free" government healthcare that everyone has to pay for regardless of whether you're using it, I want competitive and high quality private healthcare that's cheap enough to where anyone can afford it. There are so many regulations on private healthcare that something like 80% of costs are for the overhead to just run the hospital or pharmaceutical company.

Same goes for college within the US. College costs were easily affordable until the US government started subsidizing student loans, that's when costs began to skyrocket exponentially, not because capitalism failed.

And even if there weren't essentially infinite resources and wealth within the universe or even our solar system, capitalism doesn't require infinite growth, our current system of debt based currency does. Capitalism is essentially just built upon voluntary transactions and competition to create the highest quality product for the lowest possible price.
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#136955 - whoozy (12/01/2016) [-]
I don't feel like I'm doing you justice right now, but I have to leave now and get some stuff done.

I agree with a lot of what you say and disagree with some.

Before I go there is just one thing I want to briefly comment on. I very much agree that we need a form of middle ground. Going too far left is bad. Going too far right is also bad. If we can strike a balance then perhaps we eventually can calm the eternal conflict of the left and right.
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#136949 - whoozy (12/01/2016) [-]
Glad we agree on the first points at least.

I'm not going to hide anything to make my views look good.
You're absolutely right. Government companies is inherently more costly and inefficient than private business. Private insurance will be cheaper and more effective. That being said I've never seen a society where "everyone" can afford healthcare on their own. There's ALWAYS outliers. I think it's very wrong to just let these outliers suffer.
Insurance companies HAVE to make a profit. This is why life becomes hell for people with expensive conditions.

This is why I support both. We have a pretty good free healthcare system and an even better, but expensive private sector. If you want free healthcare you'll have to accept that it's slower and less efficient. If you want it faster you're more than free to pay for it yourself.

I wasn't aware that it was a difference between the two (the debt based currency and capitalism). I have a hard time imagining capitalism without it.
One of the main problems with unchecked capitalism is that we produce way more than we need. A lot of resources are just thrown away. It is no secret that we're reaching the limit of what our planet can handle.
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#136953 - marinepenguin (12/01/2016) [-]
I've always believed that one role of government is to provide a safety net for the most impoverished or the disabled. My problem is with a massive welfare state.

Well sure, but in an largely unregulated society I believe that the number of people who can't afford these things will become smaller. Again, the most impoverished people should have some sort of option to try and lead them to a greater quality of life.

That's a decent middle ground, there are similar systems in Canada I'm pretty sure, but I still see it as a largely immoral practice to take money from citizens who would otherwise want to opt out of such a system. I also think that the poor tend to fare better from individual and private charity from a more free society, compared to government welfare.

Well yeah, there are plenty of countries who have debt based currencies that are largely not capitalistic, the EU nations are an example of that. I highly doubt that even Norway has a currency based on something like Gold or Silver.

A surplus of product should be a great thing about Capitalism! The fact that we produce far more than we need ISN'T a problem, the problem of being inefficient with these resources is a problem of society in general, not an economic one. If we learned to make the most of the abundance of resources that we are able to produce, we would be able to far more easily increase our "bottom line" of our quality of life for the most abject poor.