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#90911 - There's a difference between having a different sexual orienta…  [+] (13 new replies) 10/27/2014 on Religion Board +1
User avatar #90913 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
i know but this is their logical fallacy too

just because homosexuality is found in nature it does not mean it is right thing

we call it appeal for nature. we all enjoy science and evolution then if we talked about why penis exist in scientific way it is for 2 things:

1- help to pee
2- reproduction

and not to fit in assholes or mouth or in any place with non-human vagina.
User avatar #90917 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I never said it was because it's natural. I just said that you can't help the fact that you are gay. I didn't choose to be straight, so obviously my natural sexual orientation is to be straight like most people are. Some people have some kind of issues or are just born differently to where they are gay and like the same gender, or both, or none. Whatever the case may be. I just don't believe that you choose your sexual orientation, and that you shouldn't be hated or punished for it.
User avatar #90919 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
then explain to me why homosexuality is increasing. (if it is not a choice) when the west allowed homosexuality it increased too much. and time by time everyone want to be gay.
User avatar #90922 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Here in the US and around the world, being gay meant that you were an outcast, a second class citizen, and many just never came out and let it be known that they were gay. Society has become more accepting of gays in the US recently so more people are coming out then ever. But, they get a lot of attention, so you also have a bunch of 12-16 year olds who act like they're gay or Bi because it's the "cool" thing to do. Which is retarded. There are a lot of real gay people, but there are a lot of people who act gay for the attention.
User avatar #90924 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
and what is the solution for this problem? because scientifically it is wrong for humans to go at any sexual orientation except straight (male x female / female x male) only and my fetish is to use my penis for the vagina only. we all love science and now i brought you a scientific reason it is wrong.
User avatar #90927 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I've heard a lot of interesting theories about why people are gay. They range from traumatic issues as a child, to simple genetic deviation, to even an evolutionary advantage to prevent overpopulation. There have been studies that show when a species gets overcrowded, there is a larger percentage of the population prefer same sex copulation over the other gender.

And P.S. receiving oral is the bomb, if you are against that then you're missing out.
User avatar #90929 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
And P.S. receiving oral is the bomb, if you are against that then you're missing out.

i thought we should take life in a scientific way because this is what atheists are shoving it in our throat, so here it is. and scientifically we our genitals are not designed to have oral sex.

but now for the solution for homosexuality what is the solution for this.

my solution is this:
1- re-educate them.
2- if they resist we warn them a capital public punishment and it is decapitation. so if they are caught and we have 4 eye witness then the laws apply.
it is scientifically wrong. and of course no one want to allow wrong things.
User avatar #90931 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I was just adding in a little humor with that.

And while that's true, it doesn't mean that it is scientifically wrong. It only means that our bodies were not built for that purpose. I don't think sending gays to reeducation camps and killing them if they don't become straight is the correct answer. Being gay doesn't hurt anyone, why kill them over it?
User avatar #90933 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
>being gay doesnt hurt anyone.

you are joking right?

being gay will simply help to depopulate humanity. which is we are not here to help for depopulation.
User avatar #90935 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Gays aren't going to depopulate the earth. Our population has been increasing at an exponential rate. In less then a decade we will have 8 billion people on the planet. In 25 the estimate is 12 billion. If anything there are too many people.
User avatar #90936 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/research/census-lgbt-demographics-studies/how-many-people-are-lesbian-gay-bisexual-and-transgender/

tell me when those huge numbers of people die without reproducing how we will not depopulate the earth
User avatar #90939 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Those huge numbers will still have the vast majority having kids. Not all those people are gay, it said 700,000 are gay, 25 million have only experimented with the same sex. That means that only 700,000 people out of 300 million will not have their own kids. That's not enough to depopulate the earth. Not even close. I think you underestimate how good we are at pumping out babies.
User avatar #90941 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
i think you are right i must admit. but still scientifically homosexuality is wrong. and anything wrong we should put a punishment for it.
#90909 - Just made a new one for the hell of it.  [+] (15 new replies) 10/27/2014 on Religion Board 0
User avatar #90910 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
how about we listen to whatley about leftist economy???

hey whatley why leftist economy is wrong and highly inefficient?
User avatar #90916 - whatley (10/27/2014) [-]
Free markets tend to reach the optimum allocation of resources without government intervention, and government intervention is costly and usually performed inefficiently. (The only good thing about highly interventionist markets is that the supply and demand of merit and demerit goods can be controlled, leading to a higher maximum utility of society.)

The further you drift towards socialism/communism and general left wing economics the more things like profit incentive are dulled, leading to less innovation and creation of new markets, meaning your society moves forwards at a snails pace and doesn't develop effectively.

I could talk all day about severe problems in things like Keynesian economics and general left wing viewpoints but those are the biggest too things.
User avatar #90921 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
carry on. tell us more because i wanna ask some questions.
User avatar #90912 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I think it's wrong because eventually more people will find they can live off a handout, thus causing the eventual decline if a nation like we see today in the US. The SS system and welfare is set to run out of money soon, and why? Because over 50% of our country is on food stamps or government assistance. Personally I'd die of starvation before I took money from the government I didn't earn.
User avatar #90915 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
food stamps?

i thought this is a practical joke!
User avatar #90918 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Food stamps is a form of government assistance. You get a certain amount of money per month to pay for food or whatever. I know many many people who simply don't work because they know they can live off government help. They'll even have kids just to get another $1000 a month in assistance. They don't have jobs yet they have nice houses, bmw's, smart phones and random expensive shit. It's some bullshit. Takes away money from people who work for everything they have like me.
User avatar #90920 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
so i can assume there is uneducated person who get help from the government by taking people money while he is getting a blowjob in Bahamas?

da fuck is wrong with your government? and why you people arent doing anything??? this is injustice!

you know if they work it is alright to get help from the government. but if they are lazy assholes then fuck this is injustice.
User avatar #90923 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
People are starting to do things about it. Many many people are angry and the more time that goes by with a democratic president, the more people want to fix it themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if in 2016, Hillary Clinton or some other Democrat got elected, that there wouldn't be marches and riots after a while. People are ready to take matter in their own hands. I've even heard whispers of full scale rebellion in some small cases.
User avatar #90925 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
how much you gain per month?
User avatar #90928 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
How much what do I gain per month? Elaborate please.
User avatar #90930 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
how much you get paid from your job?
User avatar #90932 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Around $1000 a month, I'm in college and can only work part time right now. Once I join the guard I'll get another $250 plus school is paid for, so I'll have a ton of extra cash.
User avatar #90934 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
how much goes for the tax you pay for everything??
User avatar #90937 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
All taxes taken out of salary is something like 13-15%. And most of that is social security. So in a month I pay $150 before I even get my check.
User avatar #90940 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
good heavens we dont have tax in kuwait. and electricity and gas and fuel is pretty cheap here.

i get like 550 USD per month. my father get 30% of my gain and the 20% goes for transportation. 5% for the internet and other stuff and what is left for me
#90905 - Some people can grow out of it, others aren't gay until they b…  [+] (16 new replies) 10/27/2014 on Religion Board +1
User avatar #90908 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
actuwally this is not their answer. their only answer is this: HOMOSEXUALITY IS NATURAL!

oh yeah this is your logic?????
then cannibalism is natural
rape is natural
pedophilia is natural
murder is natural

why dont we apply this and make it legal like homosexuality.
User avatar #90914 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Or its red herring, I can't remember exactly.
User avatar #90911 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
There's a difference between having a different sexual orientation and a hankering to eat some guys tasty legs. Many of those things are mental ailments, psychopaths, pedophiles, and cannibals all usually have some kind of sadistic or sociopathic nature to them. That's a straw man argument since you enjoy fallacies.
User avatar #90913 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
i know but this is their logical fallacy too

just because homosexuality is found in nature it does not mean it is right thing

we call it appeal for nature. we all enjoy science and evolution then if we talked about why penis exist in scientific way it is for 2 things:

1- help to pee
2- reproduction

and not to fit in assholes or mouth or in any place with non-human vagina.
User avatar #90917 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I never said it was because it's natural. I just said that you can't help the fact that you are gay. I didn't choose to be straight, so obviously my natural sexual orientation is to be straight like most people are. Some people have some kind of issues or are just born differently to where they are gay and like the same gender, or both, or none. Whatever the case may be. I just don't believe that you choose your sexual orientation, and that you shouldn't be hated or punished for it.
User avatar #90919 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
then explain to me why homosexuality is increasing. (if it is not a choice) when the west allowed homosexuality it increased too much. and time by time everyone want to be gay.
User avatar #90922 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Here in the US and around the world, being gay meant that you were an outcast, a second class citizen, and many just never came out and let it be known that they were gay. Society has become more accepting of gays in the US recently so more people are coming out then ever. But, they get a lot of attention, so you also have a bunch of 12-16 year olds who act like they're gay or Bi because it's the "cool" thing to do. Which is retarded. There are a lot of real gay people, but there are a lot of people who act gay for the attention.
User avatar #90924 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
and what is the solution for this problem? because scientifically it is wrong for humans to go at any sexual orientation except straight (male x female / female x male) only and my fetish is to use my penis for the vagina only. we all love science and now i brought you a scientific reason it is wrong.
User avatar #90927 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I've heard a lot of interesting theories about why people are gay. They range from traumatic issues as a child, to simple genetic deviation, to even an evolutionary advantage to prevent overpopulation. There have been studies that show when a species gets overcrowded, there is a larger percentage of the population prefer same sex copulation over the other gender.

And P.S. receiving oral is the bomb, if you are against that then you're missing out.
User avatar #90929 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
And P.S. receiving oral is the bomb, if you are against that then you're missing out.

i thought we should take life in a scientific way because this is what atheists are shoving it in our throat, so here it is. and scientifically we our genitals are not designed to have oral sex.

but now for the solution for homosexuality what is the solution for this.

my solution is this:
1- re-educate them.
2- if they resist we warn them a capital public punishment and it is decapitation. so if they are caught and we have 4 eye witness then the laws apply.
it is scientifically wrong. and of course no one want to allow wrong things.
User avatar #90931 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I was just adding in a little humor with that.

And while that's true, it doesn't mean that it is scientifically wrong. It only means that our bodies were not built for that purpose. I don't think sending gays to reeducation camps and killing them if they don't become straight is the correct answer. Being gay doesn't hurt anyone, why kill them over it?
User avatar #90933 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
>being gay doesnt hurt anyone.

you are joking right?

being gay will simply help to depopulate humanity. which is we are not here to help for depopulation.
User avatar #90935 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Gays aren't going to depopulate the earth. Our population has been increasing at an exponential rate. In less then a decade we will have 8 billion people on the planet. In 25 the estimate is 12 billion. If anything there are too many people.
User avatar #90936 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/research/census-lgbt-demographics-studies/how-many-people-are-lesbian-gay-bisexual-and-transgender/

tell me when those huge numbers of people die without reproducing how we will not depopulate the earth
User avatar #90939 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Those huge numbers will still have the vast majority having kids. Not all those people are gay, it said 700,000 are gay, 25 million have only experimented with the same sex. That means that only 700,000 people out of 300 million will not have their own kids. That's not enough to depopulate the earth. Not even close. I think you underestimate how good we are at pumping out babies.
User avatar #90941 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
i think you are right i must admit. but still scientifically homosexuality is wrong. and anything wrong we should put a punishment for it.
#90902 - Yes, but we are both very close to the center. So while I'm a …  [+] (17 new replies) 10/27/2014 on Religion Board 0
User avatar #90907 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
yeah i can see that. plus we didnt disagree with each other much so yeah maybe you are true
#90909 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Just made a new one for the hell of it.
User avatar #90910 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
how about we listen to whatley about leftist economy???

hey whatley why leftist economy is wrong and highly inefficient?
User avatar #90916 - whatley (10/27/2014) [-]
Free markets tend to reach the optimum allocation of resources without government intervention, and government intervention is costly and usually performed inefficiently. (The only good thing about highly interventionist markets is that the supply and demand of merit and demerit goods can be controlled, leading to a higher maximum utility of society.)

The further you drift towards socialism/communism and general left wing economics the more things like profit incentive are dulled, leading to less innovation and creation of new markets, meaning your society moves forwards at a snails pace and doesn't develop effectively.

I could talk all day about severe problems in things like Keynesian economics and general left wing viewpoints but those are the biggest too things.
User avatar #90921 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
carry on. tell us more because i wanna ask some questions.
User avatar #90912 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I think it's wrong because eventually more people will find they can live off a handout, thus causing the eventual decline if a nation like we see today in the US. The SS system and welfare is set to run out of money soon, and why? Because over 50% of our country is on food stamps or government assistance. Personally I'd die of starvation before I took money from the government I didn't earn.
User avatar #90915 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
food stamps?

i thought this is a practical joke!
User avatar #90918 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Food stamps is a form of government assistance. You get a certain amount of money per month to pay for food or whatever. I know many many people who simply don't work because they know they can live off government help. They'll even have kids just to get another $1000 a month in assistance. They don't have jobs yet they have nice houses, bmw's, smart phones and random expensive shit. It's some bullshit. Takes away money from people who work for everything they have like me.
User avatar #90920 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
so i can assume there is uneducated person who get help from the government by taking people money while he is getting a blowjob in Bahamas?

da fuck is wrong with your government? and why you people arent doing anything??? this is injustice!

you know if they work it is alright to get help from the government. but if they are lazy assholes then fuck this is injustice.
User avatar #90923 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
People are starting to do things about it. Many many people are angry and the more time that goes by with a democratic president, the more people want to fix it themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if in 2016, Hillary Clinton or some other Democrat got elected, that there wouldn't be marches and riots after a while. People are ready to take matter in their own hands. I've even heard whispers of full scale rebellion in some small cases.
User avatar #90925 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
how much you gain per month?
User avatar #90928 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
How much what do I gain per month? Elaborate please.
User avatar #90930 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
how much you get paid from your job?
User avatar #90932 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Around $1000 a month, I'm in college and can only work part time right now. Once I join the guard I'll get another $250 plus school is paid for, so I'll have a ton of extra cash.
User avatar #90934 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
how much goes for the tax you pay for everything??
User avatar #90937 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
All taxes taken out of salary is something like 13-15%. And most of that is social security. So in a month I pay $150 before I even get my check.
User avatar #90940 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
good heavens we dont have tax in kuwait. and electricity and gas and fuel is pretty cheap here.

i get like 550 USD per month. my father get 30% of my gain and the 20% goes for transportation. 5% for the internet and other stuff and what is left for me
#90900 - I don't think so. I don't choose to be straight. I like women …  [+] (18 new replies) 10/27/2014 on Religion Board +1
#90903 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
im ex-gay. and i know what is going with those cock suckers and their shitty illusions
User avatar #90905 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Some people can grow out of it, others aren't gay until they become older. I personally know a few days and I don't think they could just become straight on a whim.
User avatar #90908 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
actuwally this is not their answer. their only answer is this: HOMOSEXUALITY IS NATURAL!

oh yeah this is your logic?????
then cannibalism is natural
rape is natural
pedophilia is natural
murder is natural

why dont we apply this and make it legal like homosexuality.
User avatar #90914 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Or its red herring, I can't remember exactly.
User avatar #90911 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
There's a difference between having a different sexual orientation and a hankering to eat some guys tasty legs. Many of those things are mental ailments, psychopaths, pedophiles, and cannibals all usually have some kind of sadistic or sociopathic nature to them. That's a straw man argument since you enjoy fallacies.
User avatar #90913 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
i know but this is their logical fallacy too

just because homosexuality is found in nature it does not mean it is right thing

we call it appeal for nature. we all enjoy science and evolution then if we talked about why penis exist in scientific way it is for 2 things:

1- help to pee
2- reproduction

and not to fit in assholes or mouth or in any place with non-human vagina.
User avatar #90917 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I never said it was because it's natural. I just said that you can't help the fact that you are gay. I didn't choose to be straight, so obviously my natural sexual orientation is to be straight like most people are. Some people have some kind of issues or are just born differently to where they are gay and like the same gender, or both, or none. Whatever the case may be. I just don't believe that you choose your sexual orientation, and that you shouldn't be hated or punished for it.
User avatar #90919 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
then explain to me why homosexuality is increasing. (if it is not a choice) when the west allowed homosexuality it increased too much. and time by time everyone want to be gay.
User avatar #90922 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Here in the US and around the world, being gay meant that you were an outcast, a second class citizen, and many just never came out and let it be known that they were gay. Society has become more accepting of gays in the US recently so more people are coming out then ever. But, they get a lot of attention, so you also have a bunch of 12-16 year olds who act like they're gay or Bi because it's the "cool" thing to do. Which is retarded. There are a lot of real gay people, but there are a lot of people who act gay for the attention.
User avatar #90924 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
and what is the solution for this problem? because scientifically it is wrong for humans to go at any sexual orientation except straight (male x female / female x male) only and my fetish is to use my penis for the vagina only. we all love science and now i brought you a scientific reason it is wrong.
User avatar #90927 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I've heard a lot of interesting theories about why people are gay. They range from traumatic issues as a child, to simple genetic deviation, to even an evolutionary advantage to prevent overpopulation. There have been studies that show when a species gets overcrowded, there is a larger percentage of the population prefer same sex copulation over the other gender.

And P.S. receiving oral is the bomb, if you are against that then you're missing out.
User avatar #90929 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
And P.S. receiving oral is the bomb, if you are against that then you're missing out.

i thought we should take life in a scientific way because this is what atheists are shoving it in our throat, so here it is. and scientifically we our genitals are not designed to have oral sex.

but now for the solution for homosexuality what is the solution for this.

my solution is this:
1- re-educate them.
2- if they resist we warn them a capital public punishment and it is decapitation. so if they are caught and we have 4 eye witness then the laws apply.
it is scientifically wrong. and of course no one want to allow wrong things.
User avatar #90931 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I was just adding in a little humor with that.

And while that's true, it doesn't mean that it is scientifically wrong. It only means that our bodies were not built for that purpose. I don't think sending gays to reeducation camps and killing them if they don't become straight is the correct answer. Being gay doesn't hurt anyone, why kill them over it?
User avatar #90933 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
>being gay doesnt hurt anyone.

you are joking right?

being gay will simply help to depopulate humanity. which is we are not here to help for depopulation.
User avatar #90935 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Gays aren't going to depopulate the earth. Our population has been increasing at an exponential rate. In less then a decade we will have 8 billion people on the planet. In 25 the estimate is 12 billion. If anything there are too many people.
User avatar #90936 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/research/census-lgbt-demographics-studies/how-many-people-are-lesbian-gay-bisexual-and-transgender/

tell me when those huge numbers of people die without reproducing how we will not depopulate the earth
User avatar #90939 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Those huge numbers will still have the vast majority having kids. Not all those people are gay, it said 700,000 are gay, 25 million have only experimented with the same sex. That means that only 700,000 people out of 300 million will not have their own kids. That's not enough to depopulate the earth. Not even close. I think you underestimate how good we are at pumping out babies.
User avatar #90941 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
i think you are right i must admit. but still scientifically homosexuality is wrong. and anything wrong we should put a punishment for it.
#90897 - Not quite. We'd be very close actually. It's not like being fa…  [+] (19 new replies) 10/27/2014 on Religion Board 0
User avatar #90899 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
yes this is what i meant. you said little below left and im little up right.
User avatar #90902 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Yes, but we are both very close to the center. So while I'm a little leftist and you are a little right winged, we're both very moderate since we're in the middle. More alike than different.
User avatar #90907 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
yeah i can see that. plus we didnt disagree with each other much so yeah maybe you are true
#90909 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Just made a new one for the hell of it.
User avatar #90910 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
how about we listen to whatley about leftist economy???

hey whatley why leftist economy is wrong and highly inefficient?
User avatar #90916 - whatley (10/27/2014) [-]
Free markets tend to reach the optimum allocation of resources without government intervention, and government intervention is costly and usually performed inefficiently. (The only good thing about highly interventionist markets is that the supply and demand of merit and demerit goods can be controlled, leading to a higher maximum utility of society.)

The further you drift towards socialism/communism and general left wing economics the more things like profit incentive are dulled, leading to less innovation and creation of new markets, meaning your society moves forwards at a snails pace and doesn't develop effectively.

I could talk all day about severe problems in things like Keynesian economics and general left wing viewpoints but those are the biggest too things.
User avatar #90921 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
carry on. tell us more because i wanna ask some questions.
User avatar #90912 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I think it's wrong because eventually more people will find they can live off a handout, thus causing the eventual decline if a nation like we see today in the US. The SS system and welfare is set to run out of money soon, and why? Because over 50% of our country is on food stamps or government assistance. Personally I'd die of starvation before I took money from the government I didn't earn.
User avatar #90915 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
food stamps?

i thought this is a practical joke!
User avatar #90918 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Food stamps is a form of government assistance. You get a certain amount of money per month to pay for food or whatever. I know many many people who simply don't work because they know they can live off government help. They'll even have kids just to get another $1000 a month in assistance. They don't have jobs yet they have nice houses, bmw's, smart phones and random expensive shit. It's some bullshit. Takes away money from people who work for everything they have like me.
User avatar #90920 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
so i can assume there is uneducated person who get help from the government by taking people money while he is getting a blowjob in Bahamas?

da fuck is wrong with your government? and why you people arent doing anything??? this is injustice!

you know if they work it is alright to get help from the government. but if they are lazy assholes then fuck this is injustice.
User avatar #90923 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
People are starting to do things about it. Many many people are angry and the more time that goes by with a democratic president, the more people want to fix it themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if in 2016, Hillary Clinton or some other Democrat got elected, that there wouldn't be marches and riots after a while. People are ready to take matter in their own hands. I've even heard whispers of full scale rebellion in some small cases.
User avatar #90925 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
how much you gain per month?
User avatar #90928 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
How much what do I gain per month? Elaborate please.
User avatar #90930 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
how much you get paid from your job?
User avatar #90932 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Around $1000 a month, I'm in college and can only work part time right now. Once I join the guard I'll get another $250 plus school is paid for, so I'll have a ton of extra cash.
User avatar #90934 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
how much goes for the tax you pay for everything??
User avatar #90937 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
All taxes taken out of salary is something like 13-15%. And most of that is social security. So in a month I pay $150 before I even get my check.
User avatar #90940 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
good heavens we dont have tax in kuwait. and electricity and gas and fuel is pretty cheap here.

i get like 550 USD per month. my father get 30% of my gain and the 20% goes for transportation. 5% for the internet and other stuff and what is left for me
#90895 - Well if it's a question that no one can answer then it's an in…  [+] (1 new reply) 10/27/2014 on Religion Board 0
User avatar #90898 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
no this tricks of your wont work.

if you dont know the answer then admit you dont fucking know. dont play tricks
#90893 - So you believe that people choose to be gay then?  [+] (20 new replies) 10/27/2014 on Religion Board +1
User avatar #90896 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
all gays choose to be gays.
User avatar #90900 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I don't think so. I don't choose to be straight. I like women because that's just my natural orientation. I don't see how being gay makes that any different.

You couldn't pay me enough to act like I was attracted to other men.
#90903 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
im ex-gay. and i know what is going with those cock suckers and their shitty illusions
User avatar #90905 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Some people can grow out of it, others aren't gay until they become older. I personally know a few days and I don't think they could just become straight on a whim.
User avatar #90908 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
actuwally this is not their answer. their only answer is this: HOMOSEXUALITY IS NATURAL!

oh yeah this is your logic?????
then cannibalism is natural
rape is natural
pedophilia is natural
murder is natural

why dont we apply this and make it legal like homosexuality.
User avatar #90914 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Or its red herring, I can't remember exactly.
User avatar #90911 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
There's a difference between having a different sexual orientation and a hankering to eat some guys tasty legs. Many of those things are mental ailments, psychopaths, pedophiles, and cannibals all usually have some kind of sadistic or sociopathic nature to them. That's a straw man argument since you enjoy fallacies.
User avatar #90913 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
i know but this is their logical fallacy too

just because homosexuality is found in nature it does not mean it is right thing

we call it appeal for nature. we all enjoy science and evolution then if we talked about why penis exist in scientific way it is for 2 things:

1- help to pee
2- reproduction

and not to fit in assholes or mouth or in any place with non-human vagina.
User avatar #90917 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I never said it was because it's natural. I just said that you can't help the fact that you are gay. I didn't choose to be straight, so obviously my natural sexual orientation is to be straight like most people are. Some people have some kind of issues or are just born differently to where they are gay and like the same gender, or both, or none. Whatever the case may be. I just don't believe that you choose your sexual orientation, and that you shouldn't be hated or punished for it.
User avatar #90919 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
then explain to me why homosexuality is increasing. (if it is not a choice) when the west allowed homosexuality it increased too much. and time by time everyone want to be gay.
User avatar #90922 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Here in the US and around the world, being gay meant that you were an outcast, a second class citizen, and many just never came out and let it be known that they were gay. Society has become more accepting of gays in the US recently so more people are coming out then ever. But, they get a lot of attention, so you also have a bunch of 12-16 year olds who act like they're gay or Bi because it's the "cool" thing to do. Which is retarded. There are a lot of real gay people, but there are a lot of people who act gay for the attention.
User avatar #90924 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
and what is the solution for this problem? because scientifically it is wrong for humans to go at any sexual orientation except straight (male x female / female x male) only and my fetish is to use my penis for the vagina only. we all love science and now i brought you a scientific reason it is wrong.
User avatar #90927 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I've heard a lot of interesting theories about why people are gay. They range from traumatic issues as a child, to simple genetic deviation, to even an evolutionary advantage to prevent overpopulation. There have been studies that show when a species gets overcrowded, there is a larger percentage of the population prefer same sex copulation over the other gender.

And P.S. receiving oral is the bomb, if you are against that then you're missing out.
User avatar #90929 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
And P.S. receiving oral is the bomb, if you are against that then you're missing out.

i thought we should take life in a scientific way because this is what atheists are shoving it in our throat, so here it is. and scientifically we our genitals are not designed to have oral sex.

but now for the solution for homosexuality what is the solution for this.

my solution is this:
1- re-educate them.
2- if they resist we warn them a capital public punishment and it is decapitation. so if they are caught and we have 4 eye witness then the laws apply.
it is scientifically wrong. and of course no one want to allow wrong things.
User avatar #90931 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I was just adding in a little humor with that.

And while that's true, it doesn't mean that it is scientifically wrong. It only means that our bodies were not built for that purpose. I don't think sending gays to reeducation camps and killing them if they don't become straight is the correct answer. Being gay doesn't hurt anyone, why kill them over it?
User avatar #90933 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
>being gay doesnt hurt anyone.

you are joking right?

being gay will simply help to depopulate humanity. which is we are not here to help for depopulation.
User avatar #90935 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Gays aren't going to depopulate the earth. Our population has been increasing at an exponential rate. In less then a decade we will have 8 billion people on the planet. In 25 the estimate is 12 billion. If anything there are too many people.
User avatar #90936 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/research/census-lgbt-demographics-studies/how-many-people-are-lesbian-gay-bisexual-and-transgender/

tell me when those huge numbers of people die without reproducing how we will not depopulate the earth
User avatar #90939 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Those huge numbers will still have the vast majority having kids. Not all those people are gay, it said 700,000 are gay, 25 million have only experimented with the same sex. That means that only 700,000 people out of 300 million will not have their own kids. That's not enough to depopulate the earth. Not even close. I think you underestimate how good we are at pumping out babies.
User avatar #90941 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
i think you are right i must admit. but still scientifically homosexuality is wrong. and anything wrong we should put a punishment for it.
#90892 - I don't have the screenshot from when I took it last, but I wa…  [+] (21 new replies) 10/27/2014 on Religion Board 0
User avatar #90894 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
opposite of me then
User avatar #90897 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Not quite. We'd be very close actually. It's not like being far left or far right.
User avatar #90899 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
yes this is what i meant. you said little below left and im little up right.
User avatar #90902 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Yes, but we are both very close to the center. So while I'm a little leftist and you are a little right winged, we're both very moderate since we're in the middle. More alike than different.
User avatar #90907 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
yeah i can see that. plus we didnt disagree with each other much so yeah maybe you are true
#90909 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Just made a new one for the hell of it.
User avatar #90910 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
how about we listen to whatley about leftist economy???

hey whatley why leftist economy is wrong and highly inefficient?
User avatar #90916 - whatley (10/27/2014) [-]
Free markets tend to reach the optimum allocation of resources without government intervention, and government intervention is costly and usually performed inefficiently. (The only good thing about highly interventionist markets is that the supply and demand of merit and demerit goods can be controlled, leading to a higher maximum utility of society.)

The further you drift towards socialism/communism and general left wing economics the more things like profit incentive are dulled, leading to less innovation and creation of new markets, meaning your society moves forwards at a snails pace and doesn't develop effectively.

I could talk all day about severe problems in things like Keynesian economics and general left wing viewpoints but those are the biggest too things.
User avatar #90921 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
carry on. tell us more because i wanna ask some questions.
User avatar #90912 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I think it's wrong because eventually more people will find they can live off a handout, thus causing the eventual decline if a nation like we see today in the US. The SS system and welfare is set to run out of money soon, and why? Because over 50% of our country is on food stamps or government assistance. Personally I'd die of starvation before I took money from the government I didn't earn.
User avatar #90915 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
food stamps?

i thought this is a practical joke!
User avatar #90918 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Food stamps is a form of government assistance. You get a certain amount of money per month to pay for food or whatever. I know many many people who simply don't work because they know they can live off government help. They'll even have kids just to get another $1000 a month in assistance. They don't have jobs yet they have nice houses, bmw's, smart phones and random expensive shit. It's some bullshit. Takes away money from people who work for everything they have like me.
User avatar #90920 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
so i can assume there is uneducated person who get help from the government by taking people money while he is getting a blowjob in Bahamas?

da fuck is wrong with your government? and why you people arent doing anything??? this is injustice!

you know if they work it is alright to get help from the government. but if they are lazy assholes then fuck this is injustice.
User avatar #90923 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
People are starting to do things about it. Many many people are angry and the more time that goes by with a democratic president, the more people want to fix it themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if in 2016, Hillary Clinton or some other Democrat got elected, that there wouldn't be marches and riots after a while. People are ready to take matter in their own hands. I've even heard whispers of full scale rebellion in some small cases.
User avatar #90925 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
how much you gain per month?
User avatar #90928 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
How much what do I gain per month? Elaborate please.
User avatar #90930 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
how much you get paid from your job?
User avatar #90932 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Around $1000 a month, I'm in college and can only work part time right now. Once I join the guard I'll get another $250 plus school is paid for, so I'll have a ton of extra cash.
User avatar #90934 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
how much goes for the tax you pay for everything??
User avatar #90937 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
All taxes taken out of salary is something like 13-15%. And most of that is social security. So in a month I pay $150 before I even get my check.
User avatar #90940 - syrianassassin (10/27/2014) [-]
good heavens we dont have tax in kuwait. and electricity and gas and fuel is pretty cheap here.

i get like 550 USD per month. my father get 30% of my gain and the 20% goes for transportation. 5% for the internet and other stuff and what is left for me
#90891 - Real weirdos with issues. 10/27/2014 on Religion Board 0
#19957 - Tnation and Professor X mentioned. Swell with pride. 10/27/2014 on Fitness - muscle and... 0
#19955 - Basically, yeah. Most of what I'm doing focuses around 5x5. 10/27/2014 on Fitness - muscle and... 0
#19950 - I know what you mean. A guy named mexicanfood used to just mak…  [+] (3 new replies) 10/27/2014 on Fitness - muscle and... 0
User avatar #19951 - unncommon (10/27/2014) [-]
I remember mexicanfood. Pretty sure he was a wrestler or swimmer or some shit. Guy knew his stuff. I think he went from the fitness board to the gay board and I think that's where me might reside now if anywhere.
#20087 - mexicanfood (10/30/2014) [-]
water polo player, but close enough
#20116 - unncommon (17 hours ago) [-]
Is that pic recent? If so I think I might have you beat (except for bf%)
Also why the abandonment of the fitness board?
#19947 - Eat big, focus on a lot of compound movements.  [+] (9 new replies) 10/27/2014 on Fitness - muscle and... +2
User avatar #19948 - unncommon (10/27/2014) [-]
I wish that they would sticky one of our damn posts because it seems like we just repeat ourselves a lot.
User avatar #19952 - jokerjack (10/27/2014) [-]
Other forum I go to, one focused around training for mma, has a really good sticky section highlighting all these points, the best beginner and intermediate programs, signs of over training, ect.

Someone posts a generic question like this it just turns into a "read the FAQ, do that. Then come back and ask specifics"
User avatar #19953 - jokerjack (10/27/2014) [-]
Many times, I've felt like just posting URLs to those informative posts there. Especially the How to Design a Diet, in the dieting and supplement sub forum
User avatar #19956 - unncommon (10/27/2014) [-]
Is the sticky similar to /fit/'s? Link it because I'm always down for reads like that.
User avatar #19978 - jokerjack (10/28/2014) [-]
This is the strength one. Get's a little long and wordy but ctr+F for a person with a basic question works, at least enough to ask a real question
forums.sherdog.com/forums/f13/strength-power-faq-v2-0-a-1339105/

This is the How to Design a Diet that would be amazing to have around here.
forums.sherdog.com/forums/f15/how-design-diet-2409159/

User avatar #19950 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
I know what you mean. A guy named mexicanfood used to just make a ton of long posts and ask admin to sticky them. He always repeated the same shit too.
User avatar #19951 - unncommon (10/27/2014) [-]
I remember mexicanfood. Pretty sure he was a wrestler or swimmer or some shit. Guy knew his stuff. I think he went from the fitness board to the gay board and I think that's where me might reside now if anywhere.
#20087 - mexicanfood (10/30/2014) [-]
water polo player, but close enough
#20116 - unncommon (17 hours ago) [-]
Is that pic recent? If so I think I might have you beat (except for bf%)
Also why the abandonment of the fitness board?
#19942 - Oh okay I understand. 10/27/2014 on Fitness - muscle and... +1
#19941 - Then I would advise to just continue getting stronger, faster,… 10/27/2014 on Fitness - muscle and... 0
#19940 - Cardio supplemented with a weight training regiment to keep yo… 10/27/2014 on Fitness - muscle and... 0
#19937 - It's harder to gain mass and get stronger during the football … 10/27/2014 on Fitness - muscle and... 0
#19935 - Are you really big enough to actually be cutting? Because if y…  [+] (2 new replies) 10/27/2014 on Fitness - muscle and... 0
User avatar #19939 - teoberry (10/27/2014) [-]
No lol, I'm nowhere close to chubby. And that is true, both football and rugby have conditioning so that should take care of itself.
User avatar #19941 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Then I would advise to just continue getting stronger, faster, and more explosive. The quicker and stronger you are, the better all around football you will be (and I'm assuming rugby won't hurt from that as well, never played rugby).
#19932 - What would you even talk about on the finesse board?  [+] (2 new replies) 10/27/2014 on Fitness - muscle and... +1
User avatar #19938 - adunsaveme (10/27/2014) [-]
finesse

obviously
User avatar #19942 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Oh okay I understand.
#19931 - For football just focus on strength, size, and speed. Explosiv…  [+] (6 new replies) 10/27/2014 on Fitness - muscle and... 0
User avatar #19934 - teoberry (10/27/2014) [-]
Also, a question for working out during the season. When I was in Cali, we toured a high school and for practices they be 45 mins on the field, 45 in the gym. For during the season, should I focus more on cardio/football related stuff (like hitting a sled) rather than just gaining mass
User avatar #19937 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
It's harder to gain mass and get stronger during the football season. The smart thing to do would be to focus on the main lifts and try to improve on those during the season. Sled work, sprints, and power cleans will help with your overall explosiveness and quickness. Being on the line, you'll need explosiveness if you don't want to get pancaked on your ass by a guy bigger then you.
User avatar #19933 - teoberry (10/27/2014) [-]
I'm out of school for most of January leading up to the start of the season. If I put in a lot of work in Nov and Dec would january be a good time to start cutting?
User avatar #19935 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Are you really big enough to actually be cutting? Because if you aren't chubby status yet then you really don't need to cut.

Honestly unless you are cutting down to fit better into a position then you don't need to cut. But if you really need to cut then sure. You'll probably lose weight during the season though, so just keep that in mind.
User avatar #19939 - teoberry (10/27/2014) [-]
No lol, I'm nowhere close to chubby. And that is true, both football and rugby have conditioning so that should take care of itself.
User avatar #19941 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Then I would advise to just continue getting stronger, faster, and more explosive. The quicker and stronger you are, the better all around football you will be (and I'm assuming rugby won't hurt from that as well, never played rugby).
#19930 - I've deloaded twice, but I don't really have any need to switc…  [+] (2 new replies) 10/27/2014 on Fitness - muscle and... 0
User avatar #19954 - Draigor (10/27/2014) [-]
Ight. You running SL 5x5?
User avatar #19955 - marinepenguin (10/27/2014) [-]
Basically, yeah. Most of what I'm doing focuses around 5x5.
#19929 - Thanks man. 10/27/2014 on Fitness - muscle and... 0
#9890216 - At least I got a peppermint. 10/26/2014 on sfw random board +1
#9890214 - Picture  [+] (2 new replies) 10/26/2014 on sfw random board +1
User avatar #9890216 - marinepenguin (10/26/2014) [-]
At least I got a peppermint.
User avatar #9890215 - therealsuperderpy (10/26/2014) [-]
no
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User avatar #180 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/24/2014) [-]
Do you want an extra copy of Payday 1, I bought a 4 pack and have 1 left.
As in if you don't have it let me give you a free copy as gratitude.
User avatar #181 to #180 - marinepenguin ONLINE (10/24/2014) [-]
What is payday?
User avatar #183 to #182 - marinepenguin ONLINE (10/24/2014) [-]
On steam I'm assuming?

Well I won't turn down a free game if you want to give it to me. Personally I'm glad you are asking questions and I'm excited to see how you progress.
User avatar #164 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/13/2014) [-]
I'm thinking I need around 120g protein/day if I weigh 135lb now. I don't think my diet however it has transformed to be incredibly more healthy, as in I used to eat McD and hot pockets 24/7 and now the worst I'll have is subway has enough protein so I wanna buy some protein powder for shakes. You got any good, cheap product you know of and also any recipes? Like how much should I add? How much grams of protein should be in my shake anyhow? 50/ 75 over kill?

Also is it bad to have pizza pizza every friday? It's a family dinner thing but I can drop it if it's really bad. I'm sure 8 slices gives a lot of calories though.
User avatar #165 to #164 - marinepenguin ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
You can never really get too much protein. After a certain point your body just doesn't use it to repair muscle anymore and the extra goes into your waste. So just get some whey protein, 20-40 grams per shake is pretty normal.

As for the pizza, if you are wanting to gain size, 8 pieces of pizza aren't going to kill you. Remember that in bulking periods as long as you are eating decent most of the time, you'll be okay. A pizza or fast food a few times a week may actually be good, it's cheap easy calories that can help you put on size. Just don't make fast food a habit all the time. Subway is actually pretty good.
User avatar #168 to #165 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/13/2014) [-]
there is soo many different whey protein brands to choose from, is there any difference really between them? Should i try to get the cheapest price for most amount?
User avatar #169 to #168 - marinepenguin ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
I would find a brand somewhere in the middle. Get something from GMC preferably. If you get something cheaper it'll have a lot of filler **** in there that isn't the best. The super high quality stuff isn't worth the cash. Elite Whey Protein from GMC is okay.
User avatar #170 to #169 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/13/2014) [-]
ca.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/whey.html for something like this. It just says 24grams of protein, is that per serving? And how many scoops is something like 2 or 5lb of protein anyhow?
User avatar #173 to #170 - marinepenguin ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
It says 74 servings. So if you have two scoops a day that leaves you 37 days worth if you get a 5 pound tub.
User avatar #174 to #173 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/13/2014) [-]
damn so 5lb - 37 days - $80 x 10 periods of time in a year = $800 a year approx. **** that's a lot but I guess it's worth it.
User avatar #175 to #174 - marinepenguin ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
Yea protein can be expensive for sure.
User avatar #176 to #175 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/13/2014) [-]
actually more like 900-1k if +tax and shipping, i wonder if there are stores I can get this **** from so i dont pay shipping. Do they sell this **** in stores?
User avatar #177 to #176 - marinepenguin ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
I get my stuff from Wal-Mart.
User avatar #178 to #177 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/13/2014) [-]
good i live 150m from one. imma go check some out there, thanks a lot for all your help
User avatar #179 to #178 - marinepenguin ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
No problem. They're normally in the pharmacy section. Usually around 20 bucks a pop.
User avatar #172 to #170 - marinepenguin ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
But I'm not sure how big that thing is in comparison to what I get.
User avatar #171 to #170 - marinepenguin ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
That would work just fine.

Normally 1 serving is 1 scoop. I almost always have 2 scoops.

And I don't know exactly how much there is in each one, but normally one of those things will last me a week or two. Depending if I have one shake or two a day.
User avatar #166 to #165 - lulzformalaysiaair (10/13/2014) [-]
I don't think I get enough calories in my diet. Have any high calorie but good food in mind? The ones without the bad-for-you fat like McD.

Also thoughts on eating lots of fruit/berries?
User avatar #167 to #166 - marinepenguin ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
Honestly I can't think of any foods that have a lot of calories, a lot of protein and are good for you. That's why a burger from dairy queen or whatever won't kill you every couple days. Berries and fruits obviously can't be bad things.
User avatar #119 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/14/2014) [-]
how long did it take you to go from a normal body to a fit (6 pack type) looking one? Implying you exercised right and ate correctly/alot.
User avatar #120 to #119 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/14/2014) [-]
I've always been athletic and had a six pack after hitting puberty. Although I was considered under weight at my height.

145lbs at 6'3

It took me a year to gain 50 pounds though.
User avatar #159 to #120 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/18/2014) [-]
how do you feel about sugar (23g for 2.6L) and non-sugar orange juice (that 100% pure **** ). Is it bad if I drink like 2L a week?
When i started working out I stopped drinking cola which i used to drink like 3L a week. I crave juice sometimes.v
User avatar #160 to #159 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/18/2014) [-]
Not all sugar is bad. Orange juice is fine. You don't have to dial in in your diet that badly.
User avatar #162 to #160 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/19/2014) [-]
Also do you happen to know how bad pizza is from fast food pizza joints? It aint deep fried, thats a start.
User avatar #163 to #162 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/19/2014) [-]
Fast food isn't too bad for you every now and then. It's very calorie dense and it can help you get in more calories a day. So while having a pizza or burger every couple days won't hurt, don't go overboard.
User avatar #161 to #160 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/19/2014) [-]
I just realized I ****** up, its 23g PER 250 ml. Nah **** thats too much especially since I got addicted and drank it all in a day.
User avatar #121 to #120 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/14/2014) [-]
Do you mind if i ask you a bunch of fitness related questions either today or tommorow?
User avatar #122 to #121 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/15/2014) [-]
Not at all
User avatar #123 to #122 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
How is your diet like? I'm guessing you track calories and make sure to eat the recommended amount needed to gain muscle at your current height/weight/age.

I have a lot of time on my hands this semester and I've been working out everyday for the past 2 weeks. I'v been repeating
1. Abs, legs (main focus is abs though)
2. Chest and Back area
3. Shoulders, Biceps and Triceps
but I've noticed that I feel using my Arm muscles during focus on the Chest/back area so I should probably go about doing a upper body/leg split where I alternate? Giving my chest, back, abs and arms just enough time for the protein synthesis window, the next day focusing on legs? I really am OK with working out everyday, I truly have the time for it, I have only 4 hours of class. So basically do you think this split is ok? Most people on /fit/ see no problem with it? inb4 beginurs suldnt do so moch, no pls
User avatar #124 to #123 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
I work out 1.5 hrs each day, at home also. About to get a bench that is incline-able.
User avatar #125 to #124 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/15/2014) [-]
My diet has become a bit more relaxed recently, but when I was seriously into the diet I made sure I ate 4000 calories a day and had 200+ grams of protein a day.

Now I'm probably doing about 3500 a day while eating 180ish grams of protein a day and still seeing some steady gains.

My tip is, if you aren't too much into getting HUGE and super strong, then you don't have to worry TOO much about diet, just eat enough, and avoid the ******** foods, and get enough protein without overtraining and you'll be fine.

I'll continue with training in the next comment.
User avatar #128 to #125 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/15/2014) [-]
Training wise, everyone is different, you'll have to experiment (and more then likely fail horribly) with what you think works best for your body type. I'm tall, so I did a ton of volume with a lot of compound movements, and that's what worked for me for a while.

Now in my opinion with your workout, I wouldn't worry about abs, most if not all of the big movements need the abs to stabilize the movement, so they'll grow and get strong along with every other part of your body.

I would also recommend a separate day for Chest, shoulders, back, and legs. With what you are doing you are working out your triceps and biceps 2 days in a row, with workouts specifically geared towards them. Not necessary. When you do chest or shoulders you'll also be working your triceps, and on back day you'll be doing biceps.

I honestly have no experience with an upper and lower body split, but I can imagine that if you are doing dozens of sets during a workout you are on a road to overtraining. You should really work one muscle with no more then 14 total sets, that includes movements where the muscle is only a secondary mover, like bench would include working triceps.

If I were you, I would continue to do something similar like you are doing now, except cut out ab work, do back and chest separately, and dedicate one day to shoulders. On chest and shoulder days throw in a few tricep movements, on back day throw in a few bicep movements. Focus on the big lifts, I cannot stress this enough, want to see serious size and strength gains? Center your workouts around Bench, Squat, Deadlift, and Overhead press. Improve your lifts every week in some way.
User avatar #132 to #128 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
"and dedicate one day to shoulders"
Are you sure, that's pretty hard especially since the shoulder is like a secondary muscle to many of the other upper body workout and vice-versa. Most of the shoulder workouts i've done give me the biggest burn in the bicep/tricep muscle area anyways.
User avatar #133 to #132 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/15/2014) [-]
The shoulder is a primary muscle, it is responsible for a massive amount of movements when it comes to upper body. I neglected shoulders with that same kind of thinking for a long time, and now that I've dedicated a day to shoulders and overhead pressing, my shoulders have grown and nearly doubled in strength. That in turn has increased my bench, making my chest larger, and my triceps larger and stronger.

The only thing that I would keep an eye on, is make sure you don't do a lot of pressing movements. Especially if you decided to do chest and shoulders on the same day, terrible programming and really **** with your shoulders, and shoulder health is something that you struggle to get back when you lose it.

Here's an example of my general shoulder workout.

Overhead press 5x5
Landmine press 5x8
Leaning side raise 5x8

That's it, and I'm an intermediate lifter. You don't have to spend 3 hours in the gym and do 15 movements to see results, those guys you see that do that tend to look the same every year.
User avatar #136 to #133 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
Well see to me that seems so.. easy I hate to say it. I feel much more soreness from like 15-20 reps + then from just 5-8, you barely even feel the muscle pain. You more so feel the inability to lift such a heavy object, I can't describe it so well, but its a totally different feeling for me.
User avatar #140 to #136 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/15/2014) [-]
If you are lifting a weight that is heavy enough to where you are struggling on the last rep or two, you will still feel sore at first. Eventually you won't get very sore.

You'll have to get into your mind the soreness does not always equal a good workout. It's easy for a trainer to trash someone and make them feel like they did something, it's hard to make them actually see results.

If you do what you are doing now, you will see some results, because you are a novice and your body will adapt and become bigger and stronger. Do that consistently for a year with a good diet and you may gain 20 pounds, but then after 3 more years you could be the same weight. If you did it right and kept things simple, you'll put on 40+ pounds of weight in a year if you eat enough. Then you should gain 10 pounds at the absolute minimum every year after that. Trust me, I've seen it happen again and again, with friends I've helped train, with my brother, and with myself.
User avatar #150 to #140 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/16/2014) [-]
Sorry for asking so much questions, just need to finish understanding this **** so I can finally get to work without being paranoid of doing it wrong.
User avatar #149 to #140 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/16/2014) [-]
Ok thanks for the advice.
So, I guess I just have a couple other questions to get me on tract.

Do you have any schedule in mind that has me working out every day? (Like I said I really have the time for it).
You said I should have one day just for shoulders, that would mean I couldn't do the split day workouts right? How would that work with other muscle groups though?
I guess this comes back to the do you have a schedule in mind for me. And what kinda shoulder exercises should I do on shoulder day if that's the way I should go, the one's you wrote above I'm guessing^?
If you are to make a schedule could you please specify the number of sets I should have (and how much should I rest in between sets anyways?)?

So far I've been doing high volume **** like I said.
Like for example on Bicep, Tricep Shoulder day I had like:
______ 3 sets to failure
_______ 3 sets to failure
______ 3 sets to failure
______ 3 sets to failure
_______ 3 sets to failure
_______ 3 sets to failure
______ 3 sets to failure

But after reading your advice and gaining knowledge on the internet, I know now that's obv not the best way to go about it.
User avatar #154 to #149 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/16/2014) [-]
You really shouldn't work out EVERY day, your body will need rest, even when you are only stressing certain muscles on certain days.

I know what you mean though, because I don't like working out every other day even because I feel like I can do more. So I go 4 days in a row. Back, Chest, Legs, Shoulders, then have an off day before starting again. If you want to do something like that then you would have to lower the amount of work you would do each day, because like I've said before, over training could be an issue.

In any given workout, the general rule is to do no more then 12-14 sets per muscle group. And that doesn't mean just the primary muscles, it means the secondary movers in the lift too. So for Bench you would include triceps in there as well, along with a little shoulders (I would worry about that so much unless you are doing shoulders the same day as chest).

The only shoulder movement that I would highly highly recommend is the overhead press, although since some peoples shoulders may not be healthy that lifts pains them, if you cannot do overhead presses (which I'd bet money that you'll have no issues), I would do landmine shoulder presses instead. But make overhead press your priority, then add in a few movements (like 2 or 3) that work different angles of the shoulder (Front, side, and rear)

As for your high volume workout, never ever ever ever go to failure that many times in a workout. I haven't gone to failure in a lift for at least a few months, not once. As for resting between sets, 90 seconds is usually the rule, but I never time my rest periods, I just go with how I feel, and don't let myself lose focus or get out of the zone.

One tip I just thought of, a BIG one. Keep a training journal. Write down all your lifts, how much you do and how many sets and reps you do. Keep track of your workouts.
User avatar #155 to #154 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/16/2014) [-]
OK thanks man.

So you do Back, Chest, Legs, Shoulders, Rest and repeat? Doesn't that overwork your arms because usually a lot of the shoulder/chest/back workouts use it as a secondary muscle? and your doing them 3 in a row.
User avatar #156 to #155 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/16/2014) [-]
Yes that is my routine.

And your arms are not one muscle group. You can't work your biceps and triceps at the same time in one movement. So When I do back I'll be working biceps, thus my triceps get a break. On Chest day I work Triceps, so Biceps get a break. On legs both get a break. And on shoulders I don't implement any tricep working movements other then overhead presses, so they really don't get a ton of work. The days where they get the most work are on Back (and bicep) day, and chest (and tricep) day. Understand?
User avatar #157 to #156 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/16/2014) [-]
Yeah, do you literally make sure to work on Back and Bicep/Chest and tricep (individually) or do they just usually go together in an exercise?
User avatar #158 to #157 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/16/2014) [-]
You can throw in some curls on back day, but a lot of back movements work biceps as well. I tend to make chest a tricep day as well, so I throw in some skullcrushers or close grip bench presses.
User avatar #151 to #149 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/16/2014) [-]
Well if you start off right (when 99% of people don't) you'll definitely create a great base of strength and size within a year. I'm actually starting my back day right now, so I'll answer your post in full when I'm finished.
User avatar #152 to #151 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/16/2014) [-]
(Seems like you are working out pretty late, 9:30 I'm assuming, does it make a better difference to work out earlier like 4,5,6?).
User avatar #153 to #152 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/16/2014) [-]
Nah, I just work out whenever I have the time. Between my job and school I sometimes wait until late.
User avatar #134 to #133 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/15/2014) [-]
Landmine lateral raise* my bad
User avatar #126 to #125 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
"My tip is, if you aren't too much into getting HUGE and super strong"

To be honest though, I'd really like that. Going into uni next year so I'd like to get as fit is possible. Should I maybe even go above the recommended amount of daily calories and protein. I am afterall going to be working out everyday and my to put a lot of soreness on my muscles. I usually keep switching between exercises till it pains me to much to continue for the whole day.
User avatar #127 to #126 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
*and am going to put a lot of soreness on my muscles
User avatar #131 to #127 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/15/2014) [-]
out
User avatar #130 to #127 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/15/2014) [-]
I'm gonna take a shower so I'll read your response after that.
User avatar #129 to #127 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/15/2014) [-]
Not necessary, it'll take years to reach the point where you will be considered an advanced lifter. If you eat any more then 4000 calories (which may be too many for you if you are shorter) you will gain fat, you can't just gain as much muscle as you want. Work to get good at the movements, then worry about size gains. Honestly I could write a book about this and I'm trying to keep this short and sweet, so bear with me if I take a while.

And honestly you really don't need to do any more then 4-6 movements per workout, depending on what you are doing and how far along you are.
User avatar #135 to #129 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
i never understood that, why do only 4-6 movements per workout when you can do so much more, doesnt it confuse your muscle. Doesn't it need originality and dont you need different movements for most muscle groups that target them specifically?
User avatar #137 to #135 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/15/2014) [-]
I completely understand why it's confusing, and it's something I really struggled with until recently.

A muscle doesn't need to be confused, it needs consistent and ever increasing stress. "Muscle confusion" only prevents you from making any major progress, because adapting to a stress is what makes you get stronger and bigger, so you keep the workout the same while increasing the weight, which is a way of increasing the stress on your body. I increase the weights on all my lifts by 5 pounds every week, I've been doing this for about 2 months now since I switch programs, and I went from benching 150 for 5 sets of 5 reps, to 185 of the same sets and reps. I went from benching 205 to 230.

The absolute best way to build muscle is to focus on the movements that target huge groups of muscles, like Bench, Squat, Deadlift, overhead press, power clean, cleans, snatches, etc.
User avatar #139 to #137 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
also is getting a lot of sleep SUPER important? If so I will but i prefer to get around 8 hours. Too little?
Also thanks for answering all my ****
User avatar #142 to #139 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/15/2014) [-]
Sleep is very important, always try to get at LEAST 6 hours of sleep. But as long as you don't stay up til 2 or 3 every morning and get a decent nights rest every night it should never be an issue.
User avatar #138 to #137 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
Well I could do it, my only small problem is that i wont have anyone watching over me because I workout at home...
#141 to #138 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/15/2014) [-]
So do I. Do you have some solid weights? This is what my home gym looks like. I can do all the major lifts and more here. And I have over 500 pounds of weights.
User avatar #143 to #141 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
Of course I got solid weights, barbell and dumbells and like i said im gonna get a incline-able bench

You ever get to the point where you lift such a heavy weight that you may not be able to move it to the proper place, a.k.a why people have watchmen?
User avatar #146 to #143 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/15/2014) [-]
I need to get to bed, I have college in the morning, so if you have any other questions then I'll answer them at some point tomorrow.
User avatar #148 to #146 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
Yeah thats cool man thanks. I was about to go to bed too anyhow
User avatar #145 to #143 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/15/2014) [-]
What is your weight and height btw? Along with how much body fat you have?
User avatar #147 to #145 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
5'9, 130 lb.as for body fat, I'm not really sure but i'm not fat, slightly skinny if anything.
User avatar #144 to #143 - marinepenguin ONLINE (09/15/2014) [-]
I only use a spotter whenever I am maxing out on a lifts. So I don't have a spotter while benching 185, but I do when I'm doing 215 for 2 reps.

If you are confident that you can get the weight without issues then you don't really need one. You probably aren't lifting enough right now to merit concern to be honest.
#118 - syrianassassin ONLINE (09/13/2014) [-]
i like how the JIDF working about the thing we had talked
User avatar #111 - donnybergerstory (08/09/2014) [-]
No homo, can you post a pic of your arms. Or just your muscles, this sounds so gay but I'm just curious as to how ripped you are.
#112 to #111 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
No worries bro, I've seen you on Fitness some, so I can see why you'd be curious.

I'm about upper 180s in this photo. Currently in the lower 190s now. I wouldn't say I'm ripped, but I'm trying to get there.

My goal is to reach a lean 200, and I have more fat on me now then I'd like.
User avatar #113 to #112 - donnybergerstory (08/09/2014) [-]
What supplements you on?
User avatar #114 to #113 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
I only take Whey Protein
User avatar #115 to #114 - donnybergerstory (08/09/2014) [-]
Oh. I just started taking 100% Whey Protein. I used to take this: www.gnc.com/GNC-Total-Lean-Lean-Shake-BURN-Chocolate-Fudge/product.jsp?productId=33755596

Then I dropped 15 lbs and I am onto whey protein.
User avatar #116 to #115 - marinepenguin ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
That's cool. I've only every used Whey, I'm not going to start trying to actually slim down until I hit around 210 or if I put on too much fat in the process. I'm not sure how big I could get while staying natty though.
User avatar #117 to #116 - donnybergerstory (08/09/2014) [-]
Well good luck bro. Keep at it.
User avatar #102 - derpityhurr (07/29/2014) [-]
Hey, I hope you dont mind answering some questions of mine, you seem to be pretty smart about all this workout stuff and im just starting out
User avatar #103 to #102 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/29/2014) [-]
Well I'm flattered! I'm sure I could help you, what are you wanting to know exactly?
User avatar #104 to #103 - derpityhurr (07/29/2014) [-]
Well I wanted some advice on a few aspects of the workouts ive been doing the past month
I've run a mile everyday before lifting as a bit of cardio and to warm up; I don't run longer (which i easily could) because I dont want to be fatigued for my actual workout
Do you think this beneficial? I'm aiming to be a bit more muscular and to lose my excess fat
Also, I wanted advice on the exercises that I've been doing; should i post them all?
User avatar #105 to #104 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/29/2014) [-]
Well first off, running a mile before lifting isn't a terrible idea, it'll help condition you and keep your cardiovascular system in good shape. BUT, jogging is hell on your knees and if you do too much you can actually impair your ability to gain lean muscle mass. So if I were you, I would do about 3 or 4 40 yard sprints for a warmup instead. It'll condition you, burn fat, builds muscle throughout your body, and isn't hard on the joints.

As for the exercises, post away.
User avatar #106 to #105 - derpityhurr (07/29/2014) [-]
So here's what ive been doing:
Back:
4x10 Lat Pulldowns,
4x10 seated Low row,
4x10 Bent-over dumbbell row,
4x10 Back extensions,
4x10 of this byebyebodyfatbridge.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/969.jpg,
4x10 of this www.osu-tulsa.okstate.edu/wellness/equipment/reverse-flies-lg.jpg,
Shoulder:
4x10 dumbbell shrugs, 4x10 dumbbell shoulder press, 4x10 shoulder press machine, 4x10 front dumbbell raise,
Abs:
4x10 decline weighted sit-ups, 4x10 of this www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/exerciseImages/sequences/340/Male/l/340_2.jpg , 4x10 of this one machine, cant find it, 4x10 of this other machine,
Legs:
4x10 seated leg press, 4x10 of this s1.hubimg.com/u/2775218_f520.jpg , 4x10 of this www.biokineticspt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/VR1-Leg-Extension_13050.jpg , 4x10 one-legged dumbbell calf raises,
Chest:
4x10 dumbbell press, 4x10 bench press, 4x10 of this www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2012/rise-of-the-machines-15-assisted-exercises-that-work_e.jpg, 4x10 incline bench press,
Biceps:
4x10 curls,
4x10 reverse grip pull-up,
4x10 www.nationalfitnessequipments.com/images/Bicep_Machine_Curl.jpg ,
4x10 seated curl bar,
Tricep:
4x10 lying-down dumbbell tricep extension, 4x10 dips,
4x10 arm extension machine, 4x10 triceps push down
User avatar #108 to #106 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/29/2014) [-]
Couple tips here. You have a TON of volume, and it's really unnecessary. You should really only have 4-6 movements per workout max, usually centered around one big lift, which you don't seem to be doing any of those besides bench. So say for back, I'd do Deadlifts, then pull-ups (instead of lat pulldowns), bent over rows (barbell preferable), and some kind of rear delt movement, and then I would probably add in one bicep movement.

You also seem to use a ton of machine work, does the gym you go to have any free weights or barbells? Those will have more carryover to real life and a higher amount of strength and size gain compared to machines.

Lastly, switch it up from 4x10 sometimes man, throw in some 5x5 (considered the best combination of strength and size), 5/3/1 (second best), 10x3 (yes, 10 sets of 3, lots of size gain, lots of strength gain). Toy around with the sets and reps, stick with one for a few months and see how you grow. Find out what works best for you. I'm really tall for a lifter so 5x5 tends to work best for me.
User avatar #109 to #108 - derpityhurr (07/29/2014) [-]
I feel like I should haveve included this; I do all these over 5 days, with back on Monday, abs and shoulders on Tuesday, legs on Wednesday, chest on Thursday, and triceps and biceps on Friday
Do you still feel that I should do less movements?
User avatar #110 to #109 - marinepenguin ONLINE (07/29/2014) [-]
Yes, I had assumed that you split it up.

Like I said, you only really need 4-6 movements centered around one main lift. Any more then that and you risk overtraining, especially when you work out 5 days a week. I would know, I used to do what you are doing, except I went 6 days a week. After awhile I would start getting hurt, my lower back, then my upper back, then my hip, or my knee. Now that I toned it down I have absolutely no injuries and I feel better then ever.
User avatar #107 to #106 - derpityhurr (07/29/2014) [-]
Hopefully that wasnt too cringey
Also about the sprinting, it seems like a good idea
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