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#33 - Wars are only won by boots on the ground. Missiles and bombs w…  [+] (42 replies) 12/02/2016 on War... Has Changed +2
#35 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Come again..?
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#44 - DaCrazyOne (12/02/2016) [-]
A mainland invasion of Japan would have cost tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands more lives of both American soldiers and Japanese soldiers/civilians.

The Atomic bombs were a sound choice at the time, but with most countries already armed with nuclear arms plus the restrictions of the SALT and SALT II treaties on nuclear arms, they simply aren't viable in this day and age.

The best we got is precision guided munitions and boots/vehicles on the ground to secure the area.
#604 - anon (12/03/2016) [-]
Most countries are NOT armed with nukes, just the ones that matter and a couple that don't
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#52 - sgtmajjohnson (12/02/2016) [-]
The number you're looking for is "millions." 29 million between all Allied and Japanese civilian and troop losses was considered a reasonable estimate by American officers at the time.

And yeah, you're right. He overestimates the usefulness of pure firepower in modern war.
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#56 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Well you know what they say. Peace through mutually assured destruction. Ever think about where all those world-domination mindsets went after the cold war ended..?
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#59 - sgtmajjohnson (12/02/2016) [-]
Yeah, until you get some idiot who's fanatical enough to push the button in power, or some rogue state manages to find one of the many nukes the Soviets just "misplaced."

But either way, we need to win wars WITHOUT genociding whole populations and exposing ourselves to nukes. Our conflicts aren't just with other nuclear-armed powers; in fact, we have never fought a war with another nuclear states, and we've had 5(?) wars since the invention of the bomb.
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#61 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
"until you get some idiot who's fanatical enough to push the button in power" So you do understand my concern for warmongering.

Like I said, peace through mutually assured destruction. But yeah ground troops are a necessity. But just like with nukes, you want the one's with their fingers on the switches to be of VERY sound mind.
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#51 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
This was my comment #50, so I'm just gonna copy paste

Yeah that's true. But someone with some sense decided to drop 2 bombs instead.

They don't, I'm just saying that Japan isn't the first nor last of that kind. It takes a little more that blind testosterone for nations as well as military's to survive.
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#60 - DaCrazyOne (12/02/2016) [-]
Are you saying Mattis still doesn't have a sound tactical mindset?

He's definitely got more than 'blind testosterone' m8. I know what blind testosterone looks like, you should see some of the meatheads that I gotta work with...yoked mother fuckers, but they can be pretty fuckin' dumb sometimes. Plus, it takes more than just 'blind testosterone' to make it up that high in the ranks, you gotta have a sound fucking head on your shoulders and some brass fucking balls to do what needs to be done.
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#64 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Mmm, from what I've seen from my service... You just gotta know how to work the shaft and cup the balls. Having brass one's yourself doesn't seem to be part of the equation. Though they can help.
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#68 - DaCrazyOne (12/02/2016) [-]
And what did you do in your time? Honestly curious.
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#73 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Mostly minded my own business and did my job. Crazy how the world and our military works huh..?
#77 - DaCrazyOne (12/02/2016) [-]
I meant your job, I know you know what I meant.
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#90 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
You know what? You seem like the type to pick a fight no matter what I say. So what I did is none of your business?
#97 - DaCrazyOne (12/02/2016) [-]
Come oooon, tell me~
You know you want to.
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#46 - precision (12/02/2016) [-]
Yeah man I guided those munitions, we're good.
#47 - DaCrazyOne (12/02/2016) [-]
My nigga.
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#39 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Any other nation would have surrendered by then. They weren't even going to surrender then, until it took the unprecedented involvement of the Emperor to demand the war end. The alternative was an invasion of mainland Japan.
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#42 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Oh, sitting in a plane. My bad
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#41 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
And we all know that every man woman and child in Japan would have fought to the death, despite how many troops we poured into it. So someone sitting in a bunker and turning a key did what all the troops in america couldn't. I think Isis prescribes to that same zealot idealism...
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#49 - sgtmajjohnson (12/02/2016) [-]
At the time, it was actually guys flying in bombers and manually dropping them. And yeah, the bombs were what prompted Japan to surrender, but only after the war had been long made unwinnable through conventional war. Besides, no one whose sane is going to be using nukes anymore, now that so many countries have them. We dropped the equivalent in tonnage of 20 atomic bombs during one 2-month engagement in Vietnam alone. Did we win in Vietnam? What good did all our bombs do us there?
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#45 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
There's no doubt we could have taken the island, though only with tremendous cost.

ISIS doesn't have nearly the same manpower and I would probably argue they don't even have the fervor. I wouldn't compare a Japanese soldier and their warrior code to that of Islam.
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#54 - DaCrazyOne (12/02/2016) [-]
But here's the kicker, the Japanese fought using conventional tactics which, by now, we have utterly mastered, that ISIS could not hope to utilize against us.

Conventional as in standard uniforms, military organization, armor, etc.

So ISIS works with what they have, unconventional tactics. The same broad spectrum of tactics that lost us Vietnam. We've had plenty of time to learn and adapt in-between then and now, but the point still stands.
Comparing Japanese soldiers to ISIS 'warriors' is simply illogical, two totally different mindsets when it comes to combat.
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#57 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
That's true, though they did resort to guerrilla tactics quite often after we'd beaten them back conventionally.

There were both components involved in Vietnam though, with the NVA being a conventional army. The reason we didn't "win" in Vietnam was because we didn't start bombing the NVAs industrial centers and ports until the very end of the war, and when we started doing that a nearly decade long war only took 2 more weeks until they requested peace. We fought in Vietnam with our hands and feet tied together.

The problem with ISIS isn't even beating them, it's what to do after to ensure that if we leave, another group doesn't come in and take their place.
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#65 - DaCrazyOne (12/02/2016) [-]
Well, we tried helping their conventional government and their armies pick up the pieces after we cut down the amount of our troops we put in the sandbox, and that obviously didn't fucking work because when ISIS reared its ugly fucking maw they just turned and fucking ran. That's probably due to their shitty leadership that we tried in vain to fix, but I digress.

And we can't just wipe them all out, then more people will get pissed off and join their cause because we'll be even more demonized by their media....decisions, decisions...
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#70 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
We should have just maintained a semi-permanent presence there like we did in Europe and Japan after WW2.
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#75 - DaCrazyOne (12/02/2016) [-]
We did, we just cut down the troops we had there and didn't send out so many presence patrols. Guess they got all uppity and started shooting shit now that not so many guys were out to hunt 'em down.
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#50 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Yeah that's true. But someone with some sense decided to drop 2 bombs instead.

They don't, I'm just saying that Japan isn't the first nor last of that kind. It takes a little more that blind testosterone for nations as well as military's to survive.
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#55 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Not arguing that. You don't become a full General though "blind testosterone", though it does take nearly so to actually survive a combat zone.
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#69 - DaCrazyOne (12/02/2016) [-]
Adrenaline, Rip-Its, and maybe a pinch of luck I'm sure.
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#71 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
I've heard many a tale about Rip-its. I'll get to experience them next year most likely.
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#72 - DaCrazyOne (12/02/2016) [-]
Judging from a few of the squad leaders in my company, they will be your lifesource along with the gym and PROTEIN.
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#74 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Army I'm assuming then? And from what I've heard about Saudi Arabia there's not much else to do other than that.
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#76 - DaCrazyOne (12/02/2016) [-]
Correct, my good sir. And Saudi Arabia is most certainly where you will NOT be going, all things considered. Afganistan seems to be where the action is at for deployments from what I've been hearing through the grapevine.
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#80 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Saudi Arabia was what I was told as of last month. So we'll see.
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#82 - DaCrazyOne (12/02/2016) [-]
Huh. That's odd...
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#88 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
I'm Air Force though, so we may have a different deployment situation than you guys. I couldn't tell ya, all I can say is what I've been told.
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#93 - DaCrazyOne (12/02/2016) [-]
Ah, that explains it, I was thinking you were a ground asset. My bad m8.
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#96 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
I'm on the ground, in the circumstances that I guard the airfield lol
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#107 - DaCrazyOne (12/02/2016) [-]
Touche.
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#98 - DaCrazyOne (12/02/2016) [-]
Kek, what sort of threats are there in Saudi Arabia? Fucking oil fields?
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#104 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Anywhere US aircraft go, we go. That includes a random airfield in the Indian Ocean where there aren't any people, and places like Greenland.
#31 - Mattis is revered as a God by every Marine past and present. H…  [+] (56 replies) 12/02/2016 on War... Has Changed +81
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#384 - enlightednatzie (12/02/2016) [-]
And so is kim jong un to the north korean army.
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#532 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
One army is starving and forced to be there, the other is well equipped and entirely full of volunteers.
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#34 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
I've served in the military and only ever heard about him once.
#487 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Thank you for your service.
Not sarcastically.
If you served and are not a disgrace, thank you.
I do find it odd that you have not heard of Mattis more than once.
His reputation demands more respect that most presidents in recent history.
#506 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Yeah idk man. I mean in the military they blow everything up for publicity anyway. You could trip on a rock and they'd make it out that you saved an entire platune from 50 landmines by finding and digging one up
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#182 - angelious (12/02/2016) [-]
mate i only served a week in finnish military and even i know exactly who this guy is.
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#507 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Well I'm sure you guys know about everybody in the american army. We must all look like the guys from the movie 300 to you.
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#510 - angelious (12/02/2016) [-]
no not really..i got respect for the marines. but other than that i hold my own culture and people in higher regard than you lot.


stop being salty.
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#511 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
I hold my own culture and people in higher regard than you, except for the marines. Lol k
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#513 - angelious (12/02/2016) [-]
thats not what i said :/


but whatever makes you feel slightly better about yourself for not knowing a shit about your own culture i suppose?
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#516 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
That's exactly what you said. Your mastery of the english language isn't making me feel any more like you aren't a fuckboi

Mattis is just some jackass in the military, which I served in. They pump him up now for publicity, but nobody will remember him 50 years from now unlike Patton.
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#193 - aldothenazi (12/02/2016) [-]
I serve in the weakest of armies, FJ-army and even I know who he is.
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#508 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
See comment 507
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#515 - aldothenazi (12/02/2016) [-]
Could've linked it though.
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#517 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Could've. Didn't.
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#518 - aldothenazi (12/02/2016) [-]
Why you promoting your own comment to me though?
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#519 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Why you promoting your own comment to me though?
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#520 - aldothenazi (12/02/2016) [-]
r u memeing me?
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#523 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
No
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#525 - aldothenazi (12/02/2016) [-]
No
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#36 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
What was your job?
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#37 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Aircraft tech lol
#62 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Well know wonder. You were Chair Force.
#300 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Funny that everyone's mad at him for disparaging ONE serviceman, but it's cool for this asshole to disparage an entire force.
#448 - lunacyexport (12/02/2016) [-]
>one serviceman

HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

gasp


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHA



Mattis is the Service.
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#345 - toosexyforyou (12/02/2016) [-]
It's just a meme you dip
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#63 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Did you know the US Navy has more aircraft than the entirety of the air force..?
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#66 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
USAF has over 5500 aircraft. USN as under 4000.
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#439 - fadetometallica (12/02/2016) [-]
Couldn't respond to the last one because there were too many, so I'm responding here.

Also, your text color is fucking horrible.

But yeah, dry heat but it's like 120 out. People who say they'd rather have 120 degrees and 0 humidity than 90 degrees and high humidity are fucking liars.
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#441 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
I made it this way on purpose. I hope you feel inconvenienced.

I am personally one of those people. Only place I've been that was actually worse in terms of humidity was Camp Bullis north of San Antonio after a week of heavy rain.
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#445 - fadetometallica (12/02/2016) [-]
Yeah I have to highlight everything you say just to read it you asshole.

My parents live in San Antonio and I'd definitely rather live there. I went to basic in August, so I got the full brunt of the heat and humidity. Visited my parents there in June so I got it again. I'd rather take that any day. No matter which way you slice it, 120 degrees is just brutal.
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#459 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
You went to basic last August?
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#619 - fadetometallica (12/03/2016) [-]
Nah, back in 2012
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#405 - fadetometallica (12/02/2016) [-]
Don't pay him much attention. I'm F-35 avionics (used to be A-10 avionics) in the Air Force. Navy aircraft maintainers have to wear helmets because they're all retards.
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#407 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
You get to work on the new toys? Lucky you.

We only have the old KC130 refuelers out where I am.

I still hate all you maintainers though.
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#410 - fadetometallica (12/02/2016) [-]
Lemme guess, you're SecFo?
Everybody hates maintainers. We all hate each other. Hell, we all hate ourselves. And trust me, be happy you don't have fighters. We just have 35s and 16s here at Luke and they're loud as fuck. And I'd go work heavies any day. They break a hell of a lot less, especially for avionics. 35s are pretty cool though.
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#411 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Yup, I chose it though unlike a lot of guys and I enjoy it.

I just hate you guys cuz you'll purposefully cross red lines all the time just to spite us, or not have your badges in the right places.
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#415 - fadetometallica (12/02/2016) [-]
Yeah I've thought about getting out and becoming a cop. Civilian cops make more than most people realize. I just fucking hate airplanes man.

Damn, not at a fighter base. I can't believe people actually do that shit. Dunno about heavies bases, but at a fighter base your ass gets tackled and arrested for breaking red.
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#421 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
And I can also confirm that civi cops do, in fact, make some serious bucks. Especially if your a single guy willing to do some overtime.
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#420 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Our base is extremely slow in terms of issues, even though we have 2 major MAJCOMs and an Intel HQ, so it's a lot more relaxed I guess.

I've heard of other bases where our security is insane and the slightest deviation will lead to that kind of stuff, that's usually nuke bases though.
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#424 - fadetometallica (12/02/2016) [-]
You at MacDill?

I dunno, both bases I've been to they've been super strict about it. Last base was an A-10 base so we didn't even have 35s for them to ramp up security for or anything.
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#426 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
I'm at Scott. Middle of nowhere, Illinois.
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#429 - fadetometallica (12/02/2016) [-]
Ah, yeah. Good ol' Scott. I lived there before I shipped to basic (dad was AF too). I fucking hated it there. Went to Mascoutah High, it was horrible. Still have a lot of friends there. Tell you what though, I miss at least seeing green. I've been in Arizona for about four years now, it's all just brown.
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#433 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Really? I'm actually originally from the area, only about an hour or so north of Scott. I'm living in Belleville right now.

You at Luke?
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#435 - fadetometallica (12/02/2016) [-]
Mascoutah is just garbage. Or at least the school is. My Senior year there was the first year they had students in the new school building. They have nice facilities, I just hated the people. Don't think I would mind being stationed there, though.

Yep, Luke. And I was at Davis-Monthan before, down in Tucson. The Air Force really wants me in Arizona, I guess. It's hot as fuck here, but the winters are really nice (it's 55 degrees outside right now), and there's a lot to do in Phoenix.
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#437 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
I've only ever been around Flagstaff a couple years ago. I know a couple people that live there though, and I hear it's a dry but brutal heat.
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#67 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
*has
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#79 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Has? Or are in service? I don't remember the exact number I heard when I was serving, but the air force has been dying off for a while now. Some are even considering assimilating it back into the army.
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#85 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
That's 2014 numbers, but I doubt there's been a 1500 aircraft swing in 2 years.

And that's the first I've heard of it.
#466 - terminalinfinity (12/02/2016) [-]
To be fair though, it wouldn't be a big deal if the USN had more aircraft. The Air Force wasn't really created to be the air wing at all. It was created to solve the dispute between the Navy and Army (Who operated the Air Force at the time) over who should have the Nuclear Weapons. If Nukes didn't come along, the Army, Navy and Marines would probably still have their own Air branches and therefore no need for any separate air force.
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#533 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
No it wouldn't, but he was just wrong so I called him out on it.

If I were to stay in for the full 20 I wouldn't be surprised if the AF was combined with another branch again, like the Navy possibly.

I know that eventually as we begin to have military capabilities in space, the Navy will most likely take over there instead of the USAF.
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#40 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Well I can tell you that as an MP we've damn well heard of him plenty.
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#222 - zombifier (12/02/2016) [-]
As a grunt, I can tell you I am shredding my DD-214 and reenlisting
#91 - juffs (12/02/2016) [-]
Does MP stand for MarinePenguin?
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#94 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Yes, everything in my life has been an incredibly well planned series of events that all fit together in an elaborate puzzle.
#95 - juffs (12/02/2016) [-]
Well I'm sure more than one person will see this crowning achievement of your life. Congratulations, sir. Good job.
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#386 - enlightednatzie (12/02/2016) [-]
Now he's just shitting on free speech. He really should not be a minister of defence.
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#404 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Good thing we don't have a position called the "minister of defense". :^)
#362 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
How is war a good thing?
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#391 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
War isn't a good thing. I don't think anyone with actual combat experience thinks that either.
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#390 - enlightednatzie (12/02/2016) [-]
For america it is. Its a way to keep the public's focus from their crippling echonomy, infrastructure (they dont even have clean water lol), social security and lack of welfare. North korea uses the same strategy but the boogeyman is america in their case while americas are "terrorism" lmao.
#303 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Might be true for the wars in Middle East now, but he's fucked in the head if he means Vietnam. And he's old enough that he could mean Vietnam.
#242 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (12/02/2016) [-]
Again, most retarded quote ever. I am all for going to battle for the safety of your people, or to end an oppressive dictatorship of a tyrant, but calling those protesting against an unjust war pussies is fucking pathetic and shows zero integrity.

#363 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
American Hill Billy logic. What did you expect? "If you are against war you are GAY!!111".
#364 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (12/02/2016) [-]
I was hoping the stereotype would not be true. Funny thing, even though I lower my expectations lower and lower I still find myself being naive.
#374 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
In a nutshell:
1. Things you can't criticize on FJ: Trump, Putin, veterans, soldiers, USA, wars in the Middle East;
2. Things you must hate and bash every time you get a chance to: Hillary, liberalism, muslims, jews, communists, feminism, blacks etc...
#602 - anon (12/03/2016) [-]
I'd remove wars from the Middle East from the list. I see people bashing it all the fucking time here and not without good reason
#370 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
FJ seems to be more and more like a reversed Tumblr. Nobody wants to any kind of argument or so, hold a discussion. There are popular and unpopular opinions. If you state the former, you get greens, if you stand by the latter you are a liberal, retard and a cuck.
#225 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Anti war ? Shouldn't that be anti miltery cause there a diffrence
#205 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Yeah right
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#393 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Nothing quite gets my knickers in a chaff quite like a cheating military spouse.
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#444 - tsoper (12/02/2016) [-]
Stay calm bro. my gf slept with a bunch of dudes while i was away for military duty.

Doesnt bother me, i am still reigned as the god as sex and no one can please her as good as me. Every contestant is only another tally of excellence on my part.
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#478 - grumbleguy (12/02/2016) [-]
she was just prepping the bull right, I hear you euro-fags do shit like that quite often
#464 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
#453 - tealcanaan (12/02/2016) [-]
>deutchland
>cucked
dude
#10 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
#8 - I'd follow General Mattis onto the beaches of Normandy if I wa…  [+] (100 replies) 12/02/2016 on War... Has Changed +191
#408 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
well thats retarded
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#409 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
You're just mad you only have a token navy these days.
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#383 - enlightednatzie (12/02/2016) [-]
Sounds like brainwashing to me.
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#375 - dawnartemis (12/02/2016) [-]
>battleships
what is this? 1916?
#480 - stabatron (12/02/2016) [-]
the quintessential retarded millennial folks .. fucking bravo.
#488 - dawnartemis (12/02/2016) [-]
I'm Gen Z Grandpa..
Also, i like arguing the finer points of blue ocean warfare!
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#489 - stabatron (12/02/2016) [-]
wars are fought on land but waged from water. Battleships are still extremely relevant. Common knowledge to the non retarded
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#378 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Battleships were only discontinued in the US Navy around the early 2000s
#380 - dawnartemis (12/02/2016) [-]
Battleships have been obsolete for almost 50 years with carrier supremacy.
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#388 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Well sure. I'm not arguing that. I'm not sure what you're getting at here other than trying to be smartass.
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#434 - dawnartemis (12/02/2016) [-]
Yoy're half-right.
I meant that losing a battleship isn't as bad as losing a carrier, he coulda made his comparission a little more weighty is all.
#206 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
a.k.a.
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#28 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Oh, so he is more than a raging lunatic.
#450 - iamchicken (12/02/2016) [-]
All Marines are raging lunatics.

It's how they get shit done.
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#562 - spaaceghoost (12/02/2016) [-]
Have marine family, can confirm. They're highly trained, semi-intelligent, highly focused maniacs. Theyre the best goddamn people in the world.
#133 - skelebones (12/02/2016) [-]
Fuck off kid. No srsly. You are probably just as weak and pathetic as every other sorry ass looser from highschool with no fucking future or discernable skillsets who needed a job when your mama kicked you out after you graduated.
You are one of many symptoms of the plague ravaging our current military. You think because you are a "technician" and you graduated basic fucking training with a certification that youre special. You fucking arent. You are the cheap dime store hooker class of mechanic technician. Instead of actually being a fucking adult and learning some goddamn responsibilities and getting a college education and a degree proving you actually know what the fuck youre doing. No instead you limp your sorry ass thro basic and get handed a free fucking education course teaching you how to turn a wrench.
You are literally worth less than the teeth in my boot from the shitskin whos face i kicked in for launching morters at our bases.

Fuck you. Suffer in silence. Kys.
#504 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
I work and make a living on my own. Get the cock out of your ass, kid.
#211 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Shiet that's edgy son.
#209 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
be an adult and stop coming here and having these raging pathetic temper tantrums
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#199 - strobler (12/02/2016) [-]
Obamas Navy SEALS Copypasta

Hahaha you're so autistic that you compete with the best
#126 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Besides being a strategic leader, this man is what every combat soldier should strive to be.
#301 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Should strive to be an old fatcat who enjoys conflict because they won't be the one dying?
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#31 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Mattis is revered as a God by every Marine past and present. He holds more respect from every servicemen than any other Marine since Chest Puller.
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#384 - enlightednatzie (12/02/2016) [-]
And so is kim jong un to the north korean army.
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#532 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
One army is starving and forced to be there, the other is well equipped and entirely full of volunteers.
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#34 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
I've served in the military and only ever heard about him once.
#487 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Thank you for your service.
Not sarcastically.
If you served and are not a disgrace, thank you.
I do find it odd that you have not heard of Mattis more than once.
His reputation demands more respect that most presidents in recent history.
#506 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Yeah idk man. I mean in the military they blow everything up for publicity anyway. You could trip on a rock and they'd make it out that you saved an entire platune from 50 landmines by finding and digging one up
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#182 - angelious (12/02/2016) [-]
mate i only served a week in finnish military and even i know exactly who this guy is.
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#507 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Well I'm sure you guys know about everybody in the american army. We must all look like the guys from the movie 300 to you.
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#510 - angelious (12/02/2016) [-]
no not really..i got respect for the marines. but other than that i hold my own culture and people in higher regard than you lot.


stop being salty.
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#511 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
I hold my own culture and people in higher regard than you, except for the marines. Lol k
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#513 - angelious (12/02/2016) [-]
thats not what i said :/


but whatever makes you feel slightly better about yourself for not knowing a shit about your own culture i suppose?
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#516 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
That's exactly what you said. Your mastery of the english language isn't making me feel any more like you aren't a fuckboi

Mattis is just some jackass in the military, which I served in. They pump him up now for publicity, but nobody will remember him 50 years from now unlike Patton.
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#193 - aldothenazi (12/02/2016) [-]
I serve in the weakest of armies, FJ-army and even I know who he is.
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#508 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
See comment 507
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#515 - aldothenazi (12/02/2016) [-]
Could've linked it though.
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#517 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Could've. Didn't.
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#518 - aldothenazi (12/02/2016) [-]
Why you promoting your own comment to me though?
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#519 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Why you promoting your own comment to me though?
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#520 - aldothenazi (12/02/2016) [-]
r u memeing me?
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#523 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
No
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#525 - aldothenazi (12/02/2016) [-]
No
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#36 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
What was your job?
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#37 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Aircraft tech lol
#62 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Well know wonder. You were Chair Force.
#300 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Funny that everyone's mad at him for disparaging ONE serviceman, but it's cool for this asshole to disparage an entire force.
#448 - lunacyexport (12/02/2016) [-]
>one serviceman

HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

gasp


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHA



Mattis is the Service.
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#345 - toosexyforyou (12/02/2016) [-]
It's just a meme you dip
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#63 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Did you know the US Navy has more aircraft than the entirety of the air force..?
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#66 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
USAF has over 5500 aircraft. USN as under 4000.
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#439 - fadetometallica (12/02/2016) [-]
Couldn't respond to the last one because there were too many, so I'm responding here.

Also, your text color is fucking horrible.

But yeah, dry heat but it's like 120 out. People who say they'd rather have 120 degrees and 0 humidity than 90 degrees and high humidity are fucking liars.
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#441 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
I made it this way on purpose. I hope you feel inconvenienced.

I am personally one of those people. Only place I've been that was actually worse in terms of humidity was Camp Bullis north of San Antonio after a week of heavy rain.
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#445 - fadetometallica (12/02/2016) [-]
Yeah I have to highlight everything you say just to read it you asshole.

My parents live in San Antonio and I'd definitely rather live there. I went to basic in August, so I got the full brunt of the heat and humidity. Visited my parents there in June so I got it again. I'd rather take that any day. No matter which way you slice it, 120 degrees is just brutal.
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#459 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
You went to basic last August?
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#619 - fadetometallica (12/03/2016) [-]
Nah, back in 2012
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#405 - fadetometallica (12/02/2016) [-]
Don't pay him much attention. I'm F-35 avionics (used to be A-10 avionics) in the Air Force. Navy aircraft maintainers have to wear helmets because they're all retards.
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#407 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
You get to work on the new toys? Lucky you.

We only have the old KC130 refuelers out where I am.

I still hate all you maintainers though.
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#410 - fadetometallica (12/02/2016) [-]
Lemme guess, you're SecFo?
Everybody hates maintainers. We all hate each other. Hell, we all hate ourselves. And trust me, be happy you don't have fighters. We just have 35s and 16s here at Luke and they're loud as fuck. And I'd go work heavies any day. They break a hell of a lot less, especially for avionics. 35s are pretty cool though.
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#411 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Yup, I chose it though unlike a lot of guys and I enjoy it.

I just hate you guys cuz you'll purposefully cross red lines all the time just to spite us, or not have your badges in the right places.
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#415 - fadetometallica (12/02/2016) [-]
Yeah I've thought about getting out and becoming a cop. Civilian cops make more than most people realize. I just fucking hate airplanes man.

Damn, not at a fighter base. I can't believe people actually do that shit. Dunno about heavies bases, but at a fighter base your ass gets tackled and arrested for breaking red.
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#421 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
And I can also confirm that civi cops do, in fact, make some serious bucks. Especially if your a single guy willing to do some overtime.
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#420 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Our base is extremely slow in terms of issues, even though we have 2 major MAJCOMs and an Intel HQ, so it's a lot more relaxed I guess.

I've heard of other bases where our security is insane and the slightest deviation will lead to that kind of stuff, that's usually nuke bases though.
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#424 - fadetometallica (12/02/2016) [-]
You at MacDill?

I dunno, both bases I've been to they've been super strict about it. Last base was an A-10 base so we didn't even have 35s for them to ramp up security for or anything.
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#426 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
I'm at Scott. Middle of nowhere, Illinois.
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#429 - fadetometallica (12/02/2016) [-]
Ah, yeah. Good ol' Scott. I lived there before I shipped to basic (dad was AF too). I fucking hated it there. Went to Mascoutah High, it was horrible. Still have a lot of friends there. Tell you what though, I miss at least seeing green. I've been in Arizona for about four years now, it's all just brown.
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#433 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Really? I'm actually originally from the area, only about an hour or so north of Scott. I'm living in Belleville right now.

You at Luke?
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#435 - fadetometallica (12/02/2016) [-]
Mascoutah is just garbage. Or at least the school is. My Senior year there was the first year they had students in the new school building. They have nice facilities, I just hated the people. Don't think I would mind being stationed there, though.

Yep, Luke. And I was at Davis-Monthan before, down in Tucson. The Air Force really wants me in Arizona, I guess. It's hot as fuck here, but the winters are really nice (it's 55 degrees outside right now), and there's a lot to do in Phoenix.
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#437 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
I've only ever been around Flagstaff a couple years ago. I know a couple people that live there though, and I hear it's a dry but brutal heat.
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#67 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
*has
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#79 - fuunnokami (12/02/2016) [-]
Has? Or are in service? I don't remember the exact number I heard when I was serving, but the air force has been dying off for a while now. Some are even considering assimilating it back into the army.
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#85 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
That's 2014 numbers, but I doubt there's been a 1500 aircraft swing in 2 years.

And that's the first I've heard of it.
#466 - terminalinfinity (12/02/2016) [-]
To be fair though, it wouldn't be a big deal if the USN had more aircraft. The Air Force wasn't really created to be the air wing at all. It was created to solve the dispute between the Navy and Army (Who operated the Air Force at the time) over who should have the Nuclear Weapons. If Nukes didn't come along, the Army, Navy and Marines would probably still have their own Air branches and therefore no need for any separate air force.
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#533 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
No it wouldn't, but he was just wrong so I called him out on it.

If I were to stay in for the full 20 I wouldn't be surprised if the AF was combined with another branch again, like the Navy possibly.

I know that eventually as we begin to have military capabilities in space, the Navy will most likely take over there instead of the USAF.
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#40 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Well I can tell you that as an MP we've damn well heard of him plenty.
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#222 - zombifier (12/02/2016) [-]
As a grunt, I can tell you I am shredding my DD-214 and reenlisting
#91 - juffs (12/02/2016) [-]
Does MP stand for MarinePenguin?
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#94 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Yes, everything in my life has been an incredibly well planned series of events that all fit together in an elaborate puzzle.
#95 - juffs (12/02/2016) [-]
Well I'm sure more than one person will see this crowning achievement of your life. Congratulations, sir. Good job.
#9 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
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#386 - enlightednatzie (12/02/2016) [-]
Now he's just shitting on free speech. He really should not be a minister of defence.
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#404 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Good thing we don't have a position called the "minister of defense". :^)
#362 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
How is war a good thing?
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#391 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
War isn't a good thing. I don't think anyone with actual combat experience thinks that either.
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#390 - enlightednatzie (12/02/2016) [-]
For america it is. Its a way to keep the public's focus from their crippling echonomy, infrastructure (they dont even have clean water lol), social security and lack of welfare. North korea uses the same strategy but the boogeyman is america in their case while americas are "terrorism" lmao.
#303 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Might be true for the wars in Middle East now, but he's fucked in the head if he means Vietnam. And he's old enough that he could mean Vietnam.
#242 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (12/02/2016) [-]
Again, most retarded quote ever. I am all for going to battle for the safety of your people, or to end an oppressive dictatorship of a tyrant, but calling those protesting against an unjust war pussies is fucking pathetic and shows zero integrity.

#363 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
American Hill Billy logic. What did you expect? "If you are against war you are GAY!!111".
#364 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx (12/02/2016) [-]
I was hoping the stereotype would not be true. Funny thing, even though I lower my expectations lower and lower I still find myself being naive.
#374 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
In a nutshell:
1. Things you can't criticize on FJ: Trump, Putin, veterans, soldiers, USA, wars in the Middle East;
2. Things you must hate and bash every time you get a chance to: Hillary, liberalism, muslims, jews, communists, feminism, blacks etc...
#602 - anon (12/03/2016) [-]
I'd remove wars from the Middle East from the list. I see people bashing it all the fucking time here and not without good reason
#370 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
FJ seems to be more and more like a reversed Tumblr. Nobody wants to any kind of argument or so, hold a discussion. There are popular and unpopular opinions. If you state the former, you get greens, if you stand by the latter you are a liberal, retard and a cuck.
#225 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Anti war ? Shouldn't that be anti miltery cause there a diffrence
#205 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Yeah right
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#393 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Nothing quite gets my knickers in a chaff quite like a cheating military spouse.
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#444 - tsoper (12/02/2016) [-]
Stay calm bro. my gf slept with a bunch of dudes while i was away for military duty.

Doesnt bother me, i am still reigned as the god as sex and no one can please her as good as me. Every contestant is only another tally of excellence on my part.
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#478 - grumbleguy (12/02/2016) [-]
she was just prepping the bull right, I hear you euro-fags do shit like that quite often
#464 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
#453 - tealcanaan (12/02/2016) [-]
>deutchland
>cucked
dude
#10 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
#16 - That doesn't have anything to do with the size of our military…  [+] (1 reply) 12/02/2016 on Breaking: Support for... +8
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#63 - elvoz (12/02/2016) [-]
And that only took us something like three weeks to win.

USA USA USA
#11 - I'd prefer if no one had to sign up for the draft. T…  [+] (54 replies) 12/02/2016 on Breaking: Support for... +393
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#271 - painal (12/02/2016) [-]
This is my thought all the time, I'm just a reservist and I always hear people bitching and I'm just here thinking, "We only do this shit once a month" I can't imagine people being forced in
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#250 - deathspawn (12/02/2016) [-]
I know and you're a marine, much worse here in the Navy
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#301 - hellbentcrusade (12/03/2016) [-]
How you liking the no rating? PC for life
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#228 - emotionexplain (12/02/2016) [-]
MARINE BRO

Semperfi Where were you when the world got Knife hands #Matis2017
#193 - submariningpenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
A-are we related? ._.
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#195 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
There are a surprising number of penguin related accounts on FJ that I've come across.

You're the closest one to my name though..
#197 - submariningpenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
More so the military thing. I'm actually on a submarine out of Washington.
#204 - brnbrn (12/02/2016) [-]
What's it like being in a submarine. I've thought about joining the navy and volunteering for a submarine position
#309 - submariningpenguin (12/03/2016) [-]
Eh it has it's perks and its draw backs. I'm an A-ganger and we own, operate, and repair 80% of the mechanical equipment on the boat. So yeah, my life sucks from time to time. However, I wouldn't trade any of the bad or good times for any other job. I've made friends who will be brothers to me for the rest of my life. I personally enjoy it, by I also think I might be a masochist.
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#253 - aviatrix (12/02/2016) [-]
IT'S A TRAP.

Unless you go the officer route, don't mind not having a home life, and like money.
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#198 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
I joined the Air Force after I made this account, so everyone tends to assume I'm a marine.
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#78 - FapKing (12/02/2016) [-]
Hey marinepenguin, what branch you in? Army? Air force?
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#119 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
Air Force
#188 - puttman (12/02/2016) [-]
Top kek
Marinepenguin.... Airforce
That made me laugh
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#190 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
The FJ name came before the career choice lol
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#209 - tsoper (12/02/2016) [-]
army here.

would it be a good idea to quit? im kinda tired of being told shit to do and not having enough time to do anything else with my life while getting paid minimum wage.

im conflicted whether i should quit or not.
#83 - archiethesailor (12/02/2016) [-]
Probably the navy since they spend most of their time in a marine environment.
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#47 - undeadwill (12/02/2016) [-]
I think the day we have a war which women have to pay for with blood is the day that we stop going to war.
#64 - autoxx (12/02/2016) [-]
it would be a nightmare.
Currently if you shoot an american soldier, you take 4 guys out of the battle.
One guy wounded, two dragging him, one covering them.
If you have women on the field?
One girl wounded, two dragging/carrying her, 7 covering them. Plus the rest of the guys hoping she'll be okay, not thinking about staying alive.
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#305 - aviatrix (12/03/2016) [-]
While this is true and has been seen, I think if there were a draft including women, very few would make it to the infantry ranks. The physical standards are just not possible for most women. I imagine the majority of women drafted would end up being medics, pilots, crew, logistics, etc. Not infantry.
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#74 - philxxmlghaxnippon (12/02/2016) [-]
You forgot:
Someone doing her hair, another one fixing her makeup and all the guys she's cheating on are going to die...
#85 - jeej (12/02/2016) [-]
what the fuck
#75 - autoxx (12/02/2016) [-]
Well, she's gotta look "to die for"
#76 - philxxmlghaxnippon (12/02/2016) [-]
**philxxmlghaxnippon used "*roll picture*"**
**philxxmlghaxnippon rolled image**Fuk you Carlos!
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#66 - undeadwill (12/02/2016) [-]
I'm not arguing with you the desire to protect women is very strong often too strong on the battle field where wit not fury is needed.

But that's why we need women to be drafted. So that women bear the price of war and society starts to stop aggressive wars.
#68 - autoxx (12/02/2016) [-]
I think the equal cost for freedom is more important personally. I still think it would be a nightmare.
A little equality would be nice. Guys have had to suck it up alone for far too long.
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#71 - undeadwill (12/02/2016) [-]
agreed
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#46 - needsauceadmisblan (12/02/2016) [-]
well a poop swastika does sound disgusting.
not the end of the world but disgusting.
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#26 - severepwner (12/02/2016) [-]
The draft is more of a concept that is needed during major wars when we get desperate for more men. We don't use it, and we may never need to use it again, but it's something we just have to have.
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#27 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
I'm aware of the pros and cons of having a draft, just as someone who is pretty skeptical of most government power anyways, I don't like the government having the ability to activate the draft and start throwing its citizens into a war they may not support in the first place.
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#21 - sgtmajjohnson (12/02/2016) [-]
Meh, there are advantages and disadvantages to both. A draft ensures that you have far greater manpower. Aside from the obvious benefits this provides, it also means we aren't rotating the same guys in and out of conflict zones for years on end, which helps preserve their home lives and their health.

However, the lack of a draft also has benefits. Professional volunteer troops tend to perform far better, you don't need to worry about the ethical issues of forcing people to fight, and the lack of a draft keeps the war off of college campuses and other elements of the public eye (this may seem like a drawback to some, but civilian misunderstanding of how wars are fought has often proved crippling when they are given policy input. See: the aftermath of the Tet offensive, the First Battle of Fallujah, the early Surge, etc.)

Before anyone asks again, my name is a reference to the Halo character and I am not military. Military science and policy are just a subject of interest to me.
#59 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
I've done some extensive research on the draft and I can confirm that this guy knows his stuff. Very informed, nice.
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#58 - klockwerk (12/02/2016) [-]
I would disagree with your first point in regards to rotating soldiers. The purpose of a draft is only for the draft to kick in during a high intensity war. Ideally, we would never need to use the draft because the volunteer army would be able to handle the needs of the war. But if the draft kicks in, thats because we simply cant support the requirements of the war with a volunteer force, or too many soldiers from the volunteer force are dead.

Basically, if you actually get drafted, be prepared to go into a shitstorm. Aint nobody leaving the front lines.
#14 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
The draft is a necessary evil. It's better to have one and never need to use it than to wish you had one when you do.
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#12 - infinitereaper (12/02/2016) [-]
Hopefully Trump helps the military, "thanks" to Obama it got downsized.
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#252 - aviatrix (12/02/2016) [-]
I would happily lose my job in the military if we stopped putting such obscene amounts of money into our military and started funneling it towards education. A smarter country is how you fix America; not by killing everyone who comes out better than us. We spend FAR too much money on defense and meddle FAR too much.

We're going to end up so far behind in the dust.
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#281 - unladenswallow (12/02/2016) [-]
The money could definitely be used elsewhere, but I don't know how much more really needs to be poured into education at this point. We've been increasing funding for schools regularly for decades and people are getting dumber and dumber. Probably because half the funding goes to immensely complex programs to design ten thousand standardized tests instead of paying teachers a wage worthy of their contribution to society. We spend billions determining precisely what should be taught, when, how, and even by whom these days. Billions more go into the pockets of the people who came up with all the red tape in the first place. If the gigantic sum the U.S. puts toward education actually WENT into education instead of policy centers and administrators' sports cars, we'd be a lot better off than we are. Doesn't matter how much water you pour into a bucket if there area bunch of holes in it. Fix the holes, then worry about how much water you need to fill the bucket.
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#304 - aviatrix (12/03/2016) [-]
I agree with this 100%. Shoveling more money into education won't fix it; we need to revamp the system entirely. Maybe base it off of the countries who are actually ranked high in education like Finland or the Netherlands.

It's pathetic how low the U.S. is in education rankings.
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#259 - infinitereaper (12/02/2016) [-]
I think the waste needs to be cut. I grew up military. Have high respect for them. They always get screwed over.
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#303 - aviatrix (12/03/2016) [-]
We don't get screwed over while serving. The benefits are staggering even if the lifestyle sucks. However, we need to fix our veteran care system.
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#306 - infinitereaper (12/03/2016) [-]
depends on how you look at it, healthcare for example, I know a lot of dipshits don't make it long, but the higher you climb it gets a bit better yeah, harder with family so theres that too
#133 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Anything you say that's not praising Trump generally makes you sound completely retarded.
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#125 - kennyh (12/02/2016) [-]
I do hope he helps it, but making it bigger doesn't necessarily equal helping it.

Hell, if we quit using our enormous military to make enemies around the world we wouldn't need such an enormous, bloated military.
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#110 - durfgibbles (12/02/2016) [-]
the military could do with some down sizing the americans spend more money on their army than the previous 6 or 7 nations
#39 - darddec (12/02/2016) [-]
Mattis is now Secretary of Offense, though he plans to stay outta conflict.
#13 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
We could downsize even more if we'd just stop meddling in nearly every country around the globe
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#185 - toosexyforyou (12/02/2016) [-]
We're supposed to be getting paid hella $$$ to meddle. It seems to be going to our politicians instead of our economy though.
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#117 - djmaryhikineet (12/02/2016) [-]
it would help if every important county in the world didnt want the usa to get involved with everything
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#189 - rheago (12/02/2016) [-]
Yeah this always struck me as weird
If America gets involved in something, everybody seems to hate them for meddling
If America doesn't get involved in something, everybody seems to hate them for not doing anything about it
#293 - donatelo (12/03/2016) [-]
its very complicated.

If we get involved, we are generally picking a side over another...even if both of them are allies to us, they may not be allies with each other.

International politics is almost litterally a highschool sometimes.. "you are helping/hanging out with isreal? omg you know i hate israel, you are supposed to be my friend" etc etc..
#261 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
Who wanted the US in Yemen?

Who wanted the US in Syria?

Sudia Arabia, for starters.
#254 - anon (12/02/2016) [-]
catch 22
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#16 - marinepenguin (12/02/2016) [-]
That doesn't have anything to do with the size of our military. When it comes to toppling foreign regimes we usually fund rebel groups within the country that are already operating. We rarely get involved with our own manpower, and even then it's not anywhere close to a full scale invasion. Not even Iraq after 9/11 was.
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#63 - elvoz (12/02/2016) [-]
And that only took us something like three weeks to win.

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