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#71771 - Most white supremacists don't hate Asians or even middle easte… 06/09/2014 on Religion Board 0
#173 - Abs really only have to do with bodyfat percentage. I know som…  [+] (2 new replies) 06/09/2014 on /fit/ goes to a fight 0
#188 - anon (06/09/2014) [-]
6'5" and only 130 pounds? Guy must have hollow bones or some shit.
User avatar #189 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
Well if you saw how skinny he was, you'd understand. He looks malnourished.
#71767 - Richard Dawkins wouldn't even be in my book, and I'm an atheis…  [+] (9 new replies) 06/09/2014 on Religion Board 0
User avatar #71784 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
still what i said is true, if richard dawkins is in the book we will see a total ape shit supporting him as number 1
User avatar #71785 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
I disagree with that. Richard Dawkins is pretty respected by a lot of people, but I don't know anyone who would support him as the most influential person ever. Or even in the top 10 for that matter.
User avatar #71786 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
all do i want to imply and if you understood, if he was in that book as number 1
the whole world will go ape shit
END
User avatar #71787 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
........

No

They wouldn't.

No one would give a shit.

Because it's a book.

A book that no one knows about.

Your hypothetical situation doesn't make any sense.
#71788 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
...........

YES

THEY WOULD

THEY GIVE A SHIT

BECAUSE IT PROVES SOMETHING AND GIVES MORALS TO OTHERS

A BOOK THAT ALLOT OF PEOPLE NOW

YOU ARE JUST BEING STUPID AND PATHETIC AND TRYING TO MAKE NOT A SINGLE SENSE WITHOUT ACCEPTING THE FACT THAT HAPPENS NOW
User avatar #71789 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
Okay, I'll try this from a different angle then.

Say there was a news station, that decided that they were going to make a 100 most influential persons list and show it across the nation. And they put Richard Dawkins as number 1. Most people would either
1. Not know who that is
2. Not care
3. Realize it's just wrong and stupid and move on with their lives.

The bottom line is that he is in no way the most influential, and no one would ever claim that he is, so that point is moot.
#71790 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
hey hey don't put shit into different direction, that book of famous 100 people is known to many people, if you dont know then go read and have knowledge.

if you want to ignore and act like a heretic then go, you are just turning into one of the stupid people on the face of the earth


pathetic leeches riddled with filth.
User avatar #71791 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
I put it into a direction that would make the list you are talking about known to more people. It doesn't alter the argument, just he circumstances.

You cannot be argued with.

You are always right.

Allahu Akbar

Allah is great

All that dribble and nonsense.
#71792 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
yes

allah is the greatest

even you heretic hate it, your word does not harm him ye heretical faggot

now go be idiot and cringe in another place
#71766 - It's true, but I'm stubborn.  [+] (1 new reply) 06/09/2014 on Religion Board 0
#71768 - fisefraeser (06/09/2014) [-]
Yeah, you're not the only one. I find it hilarious that those two are set on that everything atheist, or everything that doesn't go along with their beliefs, is cringe/stupid, while those two are the most cringe inducing users on this site, and that says a lot.
#71765 - I never said Mao was white.  [+] (2 new replies) 06/09/2014 on Religion Board 0
#71770 - dehumanizer (06/09/2014) [-]
why would a white suprepmasist put a gook in his list then?
User avatar #71771 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
Most white supremacists don't hate Asians or even middle easterners. They just thinks whites are obviously better.

Regardless, this link is a pretty shit link.
#14422 - Sure is, I've always kind of neglected the deadlift so I've be…  [+] (2 new replies) 06/09/2014 on Fitness - muscle and... +1
User avatar #14423 - studbeefpile (06/09/2014) [-]
Nice man.

The piece of advice I'd give you, coming from someone who was stuck at 405 for a long ass time (I'm pulling 440 now), is as soon as you stop hitting PRs every week, change it up. Stop attempting 1RMs, and just switch to rep training, even high rep training. Sets of 8, 10, and even 12 are legitimately fantastic for improving your deadlift, that's how I got out of my almost year long plateau.
User avatar #14424 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
Awesome, I'll try that thanks.

I've been going for 5RM recently, doing a lot of 5x5 work. But yesterday I had just decided to do a ladder with DL's. 1-2-3-4-5-4-3-2-1, and manged to hit 305 then 315 on the last two sets.

Appreciate the advice.
#71756 - Well there are lots of problems with his list, the link itself…  [+] (14 new replies) 06/09/2014 on Religion Board 0
#71763 - fisefraeser (06/09/2014) [-]
Syrian can't critique sources and gets mad when other people do it - same with dehumanizer. You'd have better luck discussing about the link with a half dead turtle.
User avatar #71766 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
It's true, but I'm stubborn.
#71768 - fisefraeser (06/09/2014) [-]
Yeah, you're not the only one. I find it hilarious that those two are set on that everything atheist, or everything that doesn't go along with their beliefs, is cringe/stupid, while those two are the most cringe inducing users on this site, and that says a lot.
#71757 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
oh wow, if it was Richard dawkins is number one, i am sure the world atheist will shout as he is a true hero. and everything for the writer will always be supported, but yeah this is life, welcome to the 21 century when lies sit above the truth, honesty is lost. and trust is done to make benefit
[x] doubt

let me see richard dawkins in that book as number one and i will prove him wrong, i will see a total ape shit against me
User avatar #71767 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
Richard Dawkins wouldn't even be in my book, and I'm an atheist. Like I said, it's a matter of opinion. Not "truth".
User avatar #71784 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
still what i said is true, if richard dawkins is in the book we will see a total ape shit supporting him as number 1
User avatar #71785 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
I disagree with that. Richard Dawkins is pretty respected by a lot of people, but I don't know anyone who would support him as the most influential person ever. Or even in the top 10 for that matter.
User avatar #71786 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
all do i want to imply and if you understood, if he was in that book as number 1
the whole world will go ape shit
END
User avatar #71787 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
........

No

They wouldn't.

No one would give a shit.

Because it's a book.

A book that no one knows about.

Your hypothetical situation doesn't make any sense.
#71788 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
...........

YES

THEY WOULD

THEY GIVE A SHIT

BECAUSE IT PROVES SOMETHING AND GIVES MORALS TO OTHERS

A BOOK THAT ALLOT OF PEOPLE NOW

YOU ARE JUST BEING STUPID AND PATHETIC AND TRYING TO MAKE NOT A SINGLE SENSE WITHOUT ACCEPTING THE FACT THAT HAPPENS NOW
User avatar #71789 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
Okay, I'll try this from a different angle then.

Say there was a news station, that decided that they were going to make a 100 most influential persons list and show it across the nation. And they put Richard Dawkins as number 1. Most people would either
1. Not know who that is
2. Not care
3. Realize it's just wrong and stupid and move on with their lives.

The bottom line is that he is in no way the most influential, and no one would ever claim that he is, so that point is moot.
#71790 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
hey hey don't put shit into different direction, that book of famous 100 people is known to many people, if you dont know then go read and have knowledge.

if you want to ignore and act like a heretic then go, you are just turning into one of the stupid people on the face of the earth


pathetic leeches riddled with filth.
User avatar #71791 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
I put it into a direction that would make the list you are talking about known to more people. It doesn't alter the argument, just he circumstances.

You cannot be argued with.

You are always right.

Allahu Akbar

Allah is great

All that dribble and nonsense.
#71792 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
yes

allah is the greatest

even you heretic hate it, your word does not harm him ye heretical faggot

now go be idiot and cringe in another place
#71754 - He actually makes a valid point. Being a white separatist and …  [+] (20 new replies) 06/09/2014 on Religion Board 0
#71759 - dehumanizer (06/09/2014) [-]
>Mao
>white
User avatar #71765 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
I never said Mao was white.
#71770 - dehumanizer (06/09/2014) [-]
why would a white suprepmasist put a gook in his list then?
User avatar #71771 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
Most white supremacists don't hate Asians or even middle easterners. They just thinks whites are obviously better.

Regardless, this link is a pretty shit link.
User avatar #71755 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
so being white and separatist will make all his opinion wrong?
User avatar #71756 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
Well there are lots of problems with his list, the link itself, and with your logic.

1. It could be incredibly biased because of his personal views
2. The list only states how people are influential, not necessarily correct or "good"
3. The site is called "Muslim bulletin", so that shows that the information that you are receiving is, itself, biased.
4. Being influential doesn't really mean anything other then they effected history in a large way.

I would agree that Muhammad is an incredibly influential figure, as he spawned one of the largest religions of the modern world, along with Jesus, Buddha, and Abraham (all mentioned in the list fairly close to Muhammad). But I honestly wouldn't have ranked him at the number 1 spot. This sort of list comes down, largely, to opinion. Thus it is hard to use as a piece for an argument.
#71763 - fisefraeser (06/09/2014) [-]
Syrian can't critique sources and gets mad when other people do it - same with dehumanizer. You'd have better luck discussing about the link with a half dead turtle.
User avatar #71766 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
It's true, but I'm stubborn.
#71768 - fisefraeser (06/09/2014) [-]
Yeah, you're not the only one. I find it hilarious that those two are set on that everything atheist, or everything that doesn't go along with their beliefs, is cringe/stupid, while those two are the most cringe inducing users on this site, and that says a lot.
#71757 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
oh wow, if it was Richard dawkins is number one, i am sure the world atheist will shout as he is a true hero. and everything for the writer will always be supported, but yeah this is life, welcome to the 21 century when lies sit above the truth, honesty is lost. and trust is done to make benefit
[x] doubt

let me see richard dawkins in that book as number one and i will prove him wrong, i will see a total ape shit against me
User avatar #71767 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
Richard Dawkins wouldn't even be in my book, and I'm an atheist. Like I said, it's a matter of opinion. Not "truth".
User avatar #71784 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
still what i said is true, if richard dawkins is in the book we will see a total ape shit supporting him as number 1
User avatar #71785 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
I disagree with that. Richard Dawkins is pretty respected by a lot of people, but I don't know anyone who would support him as the most influential person ever. Or even in the top 10 for that matter.
User avatar #71786 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
all do i want to imply and if you understood, if he was in that book as number 1
the whole world will go ape shit
END
User avatar #71787 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
........

No

They wouldn't.

No one would give a shit.

Because it's a book.

A book that no one knows about.

Your hypothetical situation doesn't make any sense.
#71788 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
...........

YES

THEY WOULD

THEY GIVE A SHIT

BECAUSE IT PROVES SOMETHING AND GIVES MORALS TO OTHERS

A BOOK THAT ALLOT OF PEOPLE NOW

YOU ARE JUST BEING STUPID AND PATHETIC AND TRYING TO MAKE NOT A SINGLE SENSE WITHOUT ACCEPTING THE FACT THAT HAPPENS NOW
User avatar #71789 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
Okay, I'll try this from a different angle then.

Say there was a news station, that decided that they were going to make a 100 most influential persons list and show it across the nation. And they put Richard Dawkins as number 1. Most people would either
1. Not know who that is
2. Not care
3. Realize it's just wrong and stupid and move on with their lives.

The bottom line is that he is in no way the most influential, and no one would ever claim that he is, so that point is moot.
#71790 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
hey hey don't put shit into different direction, that book of famous 100 people is known to many people, if you dont know then go read and have knowledge.

if you want to ignore and act like a heretic then go, you are just turning into one of the stupid people on the face of the earth


pathetic leeches riddled with filth.
User avatar #71791 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
I put it into a direction that would make the list you are talking about known to more people. It doesn't alter the argument, just he circumstances.

You cannot be argued with.

You are always right.

Allahu Akbar

Allah is great

All that dribble and nonsense.
#71792 - syrianassassin (06/09/2014) [-]
yes

allah is the greatest

even you heretic hate it, your word does not harm him ye heretical faggot

now go be idiot and cringe in another place
#38 - Goddamn, more like Swolepert 06/09/2014 on swampert +9
#31 - I don't think he's kidding because a lot of places actually us… 06/09/2014 on (untitled) +21
#71743 - I like the way black science man Neil Degrasse Tyson, I … 06/08/2014 on Religion Board 0
#71741 - It may seem silly to you that I say that, but it's just my hyp…  [+] (1 new reply) 06/08/2014 on Religion Board 0
User avatar #71742 - revengeforfreeze (06/08/2014) [-]
Yeah, I get what you mean.

Mm. Yes. Truth is heavy to bear. Oh well, one does what one has to
#14420 - Managed to Deadlift 315 earlier for the first time. Making progress.  [+] (4 new replies) 06/08/2014 on Fitness - muscle and... +1
User avatar #14421 - studbeefpile (06/09/2014) [-]
Nice dude. Hitting up those first 3 wheels.

Next stop, 405, eh?
User avatar #14422 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
Sure is, I've always kind of neglected the deadlift so I've been hitting PR's every week or so now that I've been really hitting it.
User avatar #14423 - studbeefpile (06/09/2014) [-]
Nice man.

The piece of advice I'd give you, coming from someone who was stuck at 405 for a long ass time (I'm pulling 440 now), is as soon as you stop hitting PRs every week, change it up. Stop attempting 1RMs, and just switch to rep training, even high rep training. Sets of 8, 10, and even 12 are legitimately fantastic for improving your deadlift, that's how I got out of my almost year long plateau.
User avatar #14424 - marinepenguin (06/09/2014) [-]
Awesome, I'll try that thanks.

I've been going for 5RM recently, doing a lot of 5x5 work. But yesterday I had just decided to do a ladder with DL's. 1-2-3-4-5-4-3-2-1, and manged to hit 305 then 315 on the last two sets.

Appreciate the advice.
#116 - That's understandable, after seeing so many people just be bla… 06/08/2014 on Is it worth it? 0
#71739 - I agree with you on what you have said. But I do think that si…  [+] (3 new replies) 06/08/2014 on Religion Board 0
User avatar #71740 - revengeforfreeze (06/08/2014) [-]
I.. guess we could.

Yeah, I guess that's the route we're going to have to take, almost all of us, really. What else is there?

mmmmmmmyes that too
User avatar #71741 - marinepenguin (06/08/2014) [-]
It may seem silly to you that I say that, but it's just my hypothesis. People need a purpose to move on with their lives. a goal to strive towards. So for me, while I realize my existence is pretty much pointless, it comforts me think I can make a difference on a small scale.

Ignorance is bliss?
User avatar #71742 - revengeforfreeze (06/08/2014) [-]
Yeah, I get what you mean.

Mm. Yes. Truth is heavy to bear. Oh well, one does what one has to
#71727 - Well when pertaining to those topics, I think people need to h…  [+] (5 new replies) 06/08/2014 on Religion Board 0
User avatar #71729 - revengeforfreeze (06/08/2014) [-]
Yes. I think it's actually near impossible, if not completely impossible to find secular purpose. People say enjoy life and all that, but I think in the end they will find the void still as glaring as ever. That's just my idea though. I'm not sure what grown ups do, or if this is just my teenage brain speaking, but this is what I've experienced.

Yeah, I actually think some people simply can't handle that worldview where there is no real justice... I know, I know fedora tip etc blah blah euphoric but that's just my thought.. because I talked to a Christian guy who basically based.. his strongest argument for God on morality, that if there was no absolute morality then God would not be the absolute authority or something.. I mean, I respect peoples belief, but I can see how it at surface seems like a horrific impossible way to live, saying there's no justice.

User avatar #71739 - marinepenguin (06/08/2014) [-]
I agree with you on what you have said. But I do think that since we have become sentient being, we can create our own purposes in a way.

I like to think that I'm going to make myself the best me I can be, physically and mentally. I also have made it a point to help others whenever possible. Doing these things give my life some meaning. So while in the grand scheme of things, my life is utterly pointless, I can at least make those lives around me a little better.

But like I stated before, most people can't see the whole scheme of things, and realize how utterly insignificant we are in this massive universe we inhabit.
User avatar #71740 - revengeforfreeze (06/08/2014) [-]
I.. guess we could.

Yeah, I guess that's the route we're going to have to take, almost all of us, really. What else is there?

mmmmmmmyes that too
User avatar #71741 - marinepenguin (06/08/2014) [-]
It may seem silly to you that I say that, but it's just my hypothesis. People need a purpose to move on with their lives. a goal to strive towards. So for me, while I realize my existence is pretty much pointless, it comforts me think I can make a difference on a small scale.

Ignorance is bliss?
User avatar #71742 - revengeforfreeze (06/08/2014) [-]
Yeah, I get what you mean.

Mm. Yes. Truth is heavy to bear. Oh well, one does what one has to
#71725 - I can agree with that a bit. Humans have always filled topics …  [+] (7 new replies) 06/08/2014 on Religion Board 0
User avatar #71726 - revengeforfreeze (06/08/2014) [-]
Yes. I'm talking things that are more.. sensitive, as the issue of purpose, for example. Or justice.

Huh. I actually disbelieve most of those things, but one of them may be true. I'm supposed to believe what's true after all, if one of them turns out to be true, then so be it of course.
User avatar #71727 - marinepenguin (06/08/2014) [-]
Well when pertaining to those topics, I think people need to have a sense of purpose, a sense of meaning. And people also need a kind of order. Because if you don't believe that there is a god and we are here only because we have evolved, we don't have any purpose other then to simply survive. Most people find that to be depressing, they can't accept something like that, so creating the idea of a God would give them purpose, direction, and a code to stand by.

As for justice, the same with purpose, there really is no such thing as justice outside of our human society. For us, if there is no law or ultimate justice, then what is to stop others from simply killing or destroying anything that they please? Once again the whole idea that there is no order, and it's anarchy within the world is a terrible idea for most people. And a God, which brings an idea of an afterlife depending on how "well" you lived your life helps push people in certain directions.

This is just my personal theory.
User avatar #71729 - revengeforfreeze (06/08/2014) [-]
Yes. I think it's actually near impossible, if not completely impossible to find secular purpose. People say enjoy life and all that, but I think in the end they will find the void still as glaring as ever. That's just my idea though. I'm not sure what grown ups do, or if this is just my teenage brain speaking, but this is what I've experienced.

Yeah, I actually think some people simply can't handle that worldview where there is no real justice... I know, I know fedora tip etc blah blah euphoric but that's just my thought.. because I talked to a Christian guy who basically based.. his strongest argument for God on morality, that if there was no absolute morality then God would not be the absolute authority or something.. I mean, I respect peoples belief, but I can see how it at surface seems like a horrific impossible way to live, saying there's no justice.

User avatar #71739 - marinepenguin (06/08/2014) [-]
I agree with you on what you have said. But I do think that since we have become sentient being, we can create our own purposes in a way.

I like to think that I'm going to make myself the best me I can be, physically and mentally. I also have made it a point to help others whenever possible. Doing these things give my life some meaning. So while in the grand scheme of things, my life is utterly pointless, I can at least make those lives around me a little better.

But like I stated before, most people can't see the whole scheme of things, and realize how utterly insignificant we are in this massive universe we inhabit.
User avatar #71740 - revengeforfreeze (06/08/2014) [-]
I.. guess we could.

Yeah, I guess that's the route we're going to have to take, almost all of us, really. What else is there?

mmmmmmmyes that too
User avatar #71741 - marinepenguin (06/08/2014) [-]
It may seem silly to you that I say that, but it's just my hypothesis. People need a purpose to move on with their lives. a goal to strive towards. So for me, while I realize my existence is pretty much pointless, it comforts me think I can make a difference on a small scale.

Ignorance is bliss?
User avatar #71742 - revengeforfreeze (06/08/2014) [-]
Yeah, I get what you mean.

Mm. Yes. Truth is heavy to bear. Oh well, one does what one has to
#93 - Most of the guys that I see do this are the guys who put up se… 06/08/2014 on You know who you are +2
#77 - Situps are completely unnecessary at his size. Stick to your s… 06/08/2014 on workout motivation 0
#78 - A lot of Americans guys tend to over do the compliments. …  [+] (3 new replies) 06/08/2014 on You know who you are -3
User avatar #103 - maton (06/08/2014) [-]
Every comment in every adult webcam site in a nutshell.
#92 - anon (06/08/2014) [-]
Yeah I can imagine the super beta neckbeards doing that.
Most people are really casual when asking for a date.
User avatar #93 - marinepenguin (06/08/2014) [-]
Most of the guys that I see do this are the guys who put up selfies and try to act all sensitive. Yea most people are normal about it, but these guys I see in just as many numbers as the guys who are ghetto in asking for dates.
#14413 - Mental toughness, a feeling of control and responsibility over…  [+] (1 new reply) 06/08/2014 on Fitness - muscle and... +1
#14914 - anon (07/08/2014) [-]
#114 - I have agreed with literally everything you have said, especia…  [+] (2 new replies) 06/08/2014 on Is it worth it? 0
#115 - dwarfman (06/08/2014) [-]
I do the same thing, I don't have the patience half the time Lurking here recently I've seen utter bullshit from anti-vaccinations, Nazi Antifeminism, Jews behind 9/11, Holocaust didn't happen, and a bunch of other shit that even if I sat down and spoke with them calmly and presented evidence they'd still call me a Shill/Jew sympathizer. and as a result come off as being a prick. Which in truth I am. Brain Dunning may advocate treating tinfoil hat wearers nicely, I however do not.
User avatar #116 - marinepenguin (06/08/2014) [-]
That's understandable, after seeing so many people just be blatantly wrong or ignorant about things and I'm sure I'm like that in many subjects , I also tend to have a short fuse in certain situations.

No offense was taken on my side.
#82 - Jesus you misunderstood my entire post. I wasn't putting forth…  [+] (12 new replies) 06/07/2014 on Is it worth it? 0
#86 - dwarfman (06/07/2014) [-]
Rome post Caesar was less corrupt? Are you SHITTING ME? Let's look at the man himself: Knocked up a foreign leader and gave her claim on the empire that lead to a massive civil war in his death, real paragon of a just society there. The same people that killed Julius ruled afterwords, until Augustus brought them into line, yet his enlightened rule started the decline of representation in the empire, and left them with Emperors such as Caligula, and Nero. Bye the time the empire was in free fall the each legion named an Emperor even while the barbarian hordes beset them! All this in an atmosphere of racism and distrust of foreigners that caused them to betray the Goths and led them to sack Rome. Yeah society real enlightened after Caesar lemme tell ya what.

As for the rest: Society becomes apathetic, the system becomes corrupt. This happened to us in the 1920s, and led to the Great Depression. If it wasn't for the strong leadership of FDR we wouldn't have emerged from that. At the same time we had actual fascist sympathizers who wished to install such a regime in our country, anarchists, and communists (who actually had an argue as capitalism had "failed). Today is the same fucking thing with the Tea party replacing the fascists, ultra liberals calling for socialism, and idiots willing to listen to either. No a fucking purge is not the key. We needed an FDR instead we got two Taft presidents and a pack of idiots convinced their parties are the key, and will only make it worse.
User avatar #114 - marinepenguin (06/08/2014) [-]
I have agreed with literally everything you have said, especially in the rest of your comments with derpination. I just think I have presented my points awfully.
#115 - dwarfman (06/08/2014) [-]
I do the same thing, I don't have the patience half the time Lurking here recently I've seen utter bullshit from anti-vaccinations, Nazi Antifeminism, Jews behind 9/11, Holocaust didn't happen, and a bunch of other shit that even if I sat down and spoke with them calmly and presented evidence they'd still call me a Shill/Jew sympathizer. and as a result come off as being a prick. Which in truth I am. Brain Dunning may advocate treating tinfoil hat wearers nicely, I however do not.
User avatar #116 - marinepenguin (06/08/2014) [-]
That's understandable, after seeing so many people just be blatantly wrong or ignorant about things and I'm sure I'm like that in many subjects , I also tend to have a short fuse in certain situations.

No offense was taken on my side.
User avatar #102 - dwarfman (06/07/2014) [-]
Also fuck off Derpination, present a counter argument or stop being a cunt.
#103 - derpination (06/07/2014) [-]
Well... Julius Caesar was really meant to be an example of a great leader, somebody who ultimately led (Despite corruption) Rome to be better off than it originally was.

Some comments seem to talk about aggression and war, but that's not really true. War does NOT make a civilisation powerful. Expansion and technology makes a civilisation powerful. Why are we so busy fighting these wars over a world of limited resources when there are billions of planets out there waiting to be cultivated, if only we could figure out how to put the pieces we have together?

I assure you, however, I meant Julius Caesar in the sense of being a great and popular leader who gave his civilisation a real direction. Maybe it doesn't need to be a great leader - the US was founded on the Constitution, after all. My point is, however, that we need a common goal... we need direction.
#104 - dwarfman (06/07/2014) [-]
Neither side has presented a leader worth a damn to fall in line behind. Even worse you have the pretenders that small minorities treat like a messiah Fuck you Ron Paul . Julius is a poor example. Augustus walked into Rome, proclaimed himself as Emperor, beat down Marc and his whore, added Egypt into the empire, then proceeded to piss all over the senate and their corrupt ways.

As of right now Teddy and FDR are rolling in their graves, and we still haven't reregulated those responsible. You talked about red tape? Yeah the average joe blow doesn't need it, even if you fuck up only your shit is at risk, with the largest companies, they fuck up we're all at risk.
#106 - derpination (06/07/2014) [-]
If we gain more resources, it will give people more freedom with their money, and it will allow them to do what they really want to. But that can't happen under our current system - we have government elects for 4 or 5 years who sell out to try and remain in office.

Meanwhile, we have banks telling the whole economy how much it needs them, whilst at the same time bleeding it dry. It all needs to change.
User avatar #107 - dwarfman (06/07/2014) [-]
The founders separated Church and State, they failed to separate the third: Business. The Federal government, as set up by Teddy, and continued by every president Red or blue, until the second rate actor Regan, were supposed to be watch dogs. Simple laws would fix this: term limits, remove citizens united, forbid senators/congressmen/presidents from becoming lobbyists when they retire. Our parents allowed this to happen when they put Regan in power, and now we're feeling the consequences.

We some how manage to fix that, the rest will fall into place. The biggest threat to our freedoms will always be internal, our founders warned us about that. You want me to even go futurist here? If we finally tackle the corruption, we'll have a new enemy: China, and would have to combat their undo influence on us. I want that to happen, I want the second cold war as it would be the catalyst to spur advancement.
#108 - derpination (06/07/2014) [-]
Firstly, I completely agree with the statement on banks, and with Reagan - in fact, it can be traced back to the repeal of the 1933 Glass-Steagall act, which separated commercial and investment banking en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Legislation

Secondly, whilst I agree that wars generally do lead to advancements in technology, why does it have to be this way? Why can't we (I'm a Brit, by the way, but I include the US and the EU as a team) just go and start doing our own thing without giving a care to China? Why do we need the fear of war to do great things?
#109 - dwarfman (06/07/2014) [-]
Competition and Strife breed innovation. Ya know why Europeans and the Chinese were more advanced than Africa or the new world? In the later they had plenty of resources and conflicts weren't a matter of life or death for the populace With the big exception of Mexico, as the Aztecs sought to sacrifice their neighbors to their gods, consequently they were far more advanced than most. Europe has had ethnic strife for it's entire existence, and if you'd notice technological advancement in the Roman empire slowed to a crawl when they basically owned the world. China had the same environment during the waring states period, then again when the mongol tribes threatened their northern boarder.

Now it doesn't need to be war. You know how those hippie bastards say civilization will end when we run out of oil? That's fucking dumb. When it even starts to show that it is unsustainable Here's a hint: that's now , the economy will respond and innovate. Right now we have two big energy companies that are seeking alternatives: Shell and Exxon-Mobile. Ya know why their gas costs so much more? They're offsetting their R&D budgets.

That's the crux of what causes human beings to technologically advance: To take what your neighbor has, to defend against your neighbors, or mother nature decides she really doesn't like us.

Zombie Reagan semirelated.
#105 - derpination (06/07/2014) [-]
Then perhaps Augustus is a far better example - I won't refute that. And I completely agree with you - you look at arseholes like Dick Fuld who collapsed a major bank and plunged thousands into debt and home repossession, I completely agree. And yet, at the same time, you have people like my professors (Physicists) trying to figure out how the universe works, who barely get to see their own kids because they spend so long studying and researching.

We need to take money away from all the finance and the faff and bureaucracy, and we need to give it to expansive industries - space flight, particle physics, chemical companies, computing, etc etc... and we need to use those new technologies to expand our resources (For example, Virgin Galactic is looking to try to start mining asteroids - something I wholeheartedly agree with).
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User avatar #80 - dwarfman (06/07/2014) [-]
We need a purge? Cite me an instance in history were that fucking worked. Every time they came promising the world only to be stabbed in the back, or corrupted themselves. No your childish notions of how to save the world will doom us all.
User avatar #82 - marinepenguin (06/07/2014) [-]
Jesus you misunderstood my entire post. I wasn't putting forth a way to "save the world", I was putting forth the fact that like rome before Caesar, our government is corrupt as fuck. And was defending the fact that the original comment wasn't advocating for a dictator.

The simple fact of humanity, and the world, is that everything deteriorates, becomes corrupt, and eventually declines.
#86 - dwarfman (06/07/2014) [-]
Rome post Caesar was less corrupt? Are you SHITTING ME? Let's look at the man himself: Knocked up a foreign leader and gave her claim on the empire that lead to a massive civil war in his death, real paragon of a just society there. The same people that killed Julius ruled afterwords, until Augustus brought them into line, yet his enlightened rule started the decline of representation in the empire, and left them with Emperors such as Caligula, and Nero. Bye the time the empire was in free fall the each legion named an Emperor even while the barbarian hordes beset them! All this in an atmosphere of racism and distrust of foreigners that caused them to betray the Goths and led them to sack Rome. Yeah society real enlightened after Caesar lemme tell ya what.

As for the rest: Society becomes apathetic, the system becomes corrupt. This happened to us in the 1920s, and led to the Great Depression. If it wasn't for the strong leadership of FDR we wouldn't have emerged from that. At the same time we had actual fascist sympathizers who wished to install such a regime in our country, anarchists, and communists (who actually had an argue as capitalism had "failed). Today is the same fucking thing with the Tea party replacing the fascists, ultra liberals calling for socialism, and idiots willing to listen to either. No a fucking purge is not the key. We needed an FDR instead we got two Taft presidents and a pack of idiots convinced their parties are the key, and will only make it worse.
User avatar #114 - marinepenguin (06/08/2014) [-]
I have agreed with literally everything you have said, especially in the rest of your comments with derpination. I just think I have presented my points awfully.
#115 - dwarfman (06/08/2014) [-]
I do the same thing, I don't have the patience half the time Lurking here recently I've seen utter bullshit from anti-vaccinations, Nazi Antifeminism, Jews behind 9/11, Holocaust didn't happen, and a bunch of other shit that even if I sat down and spoke with them calmly and presented evidence they'd still call me a Shill/Jew sympathizer. and as a result come off as being a prick. Which in truth I am. Brain Dunning may advocate treating tinfoil hat wearers nicely, I however do not.
User avatar #116 - marinepenguin (06/08/2014) [-]
That's understandable, after seeing so many people just be blatantly wrong or ignorant about things and I'm sure I'm like that in many subjects , I also tend to have a short fuse in certain situations.

No offense was taken on my side.
User avatar #102 - dwarfman (06/07/2014) [-]
Also fuck off Derpination, present a counter argument or stop being a cunt.
#103 - derpination (06/07/2014) [-]
Well... Julius Caesar was really meant to be an example of a great leader, somebody who ultimately led (Despite corruption) Rome to be better off than it originally was.

Some comments seem to talk about aggression and war, but that's not really true. War does NOT make a civilisation powerful. Expansion and technology makes a civilisation powerful. Why are we so busy fighting these wars over a world of limited resources when there are billions of planets out there waiting to be cultivated, if only we could figure out how to put the pieces we have together?

I assure you, however, I meant Julius Caesar in the sense of being a great and popular leader who gave his civilisation a real direction. Maybe it doesn't need to be a great leader - the US was founded on the Constitution, after all. My point is, however, that we need a common goal... we need direction.
#104 - dwarfman (06/07/2014) [-]
Neither side has presented a leader worth a damn to fall in line behind. Even worse you have the pretenders that small minorities treat like a messiah Fuck you Ron Paul . Julius is a poor example. Augustus walked into Rome, proclaimed himself as Emperor, beat down Marc and his whore, added Egypt into the empire, then proceeded to piss all over the senate and their corrupt ways.

As of right now Teddy and FDR are rolling in their graves, and we still haven't reregulated those responsible. You talked about red tape? Yeah the average joe blow doesn't need it, even if you fuck up only your shit is at risk, with the largest companies, they fuck up we're all at risk.
#106 - derpination (06/07/2014) [-]
If we gain more resources, it will give people more freedom with their money, and it will allow them to do what they really want to. But that can't happen under our current system - we have government elects for 4 or 5 years who sell out to try and remain in office.

Meanwhile, we have banks telling the whole economy how much it needs them, whilst at the same time bleeding it dry. It all needs to change.
User avatar #107 - dwarfman (06/07/2014) [-]
The founders separated Church and State, they failed to separate the third: Business. The Federal government, as set up by Teddy, and continued by every president Red or blue, until the second rate actor Regan, were supposed to be watch dogs. Simple laws would fix this: term limits, remove citizens united, forbid senators/congressmen/presidents from becoming lobbyists when they retire. Our parents allowed this to happen when they put Regan in power, and now we're feeling the consequences.

We some how manage to fix that, the rest will fall into place. The biggest threat to our freedoms will always be internal, our founders warned us about that. You want me to even go futurist here? If we finally tackle the corruption, we'll have a new enemy: China, and would have to combat their undo influence on us. I want that to happen, I want the second cold war as it would be the catalyst to spur advancement.
#108 - derpination (06/07/2014) [-]
Firstly, I completely agree with the statement on banks, and with Reagan - in fact, it can be traced back to the repeal of the 1933 Glass-Steagall act, which separated commercial and investment banking en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Legislation

Secondly, whilst I agree that wars generally do lead to advancements in technology, why does it have to be this way? Why can't we (I'm a Brit, by the way, but I include the US and the EU as a team) just go and start doing our own thing without giving a care to China? Why do we need the fear of war to do great things?
#109 - dwarfman (06/07/2014) [-]
Competition and Strife breed innovation. Ya know why Europeans and the Chinese were more advanced than Africa or the new world? In the later they had plenty of resources and conflicts weren't a matter of life or death for the populace With the big exception of Mexico, as the Aztecs sought to sacrifice their neighbors to their gods, consequently they were far more advanced than most. Europe has had ethnic strife for it's entire existence, and if you'd notice technological advancement in the Roman empire slowed to a crawl when they basically owned the world. China had the same environment during the waring states period, then again when the mongol tribes threatened their northern boarder.

Now it doesn't need to be war. You know how those hippie bastards say civilization will end when we run out of oil? That's fucking dumb. When it even starts to show that it is unsustainable Here's a hint: that's now , the economy will respond and innovate. Right now we have two big energy companies that are seeking alternatives: Shell and Exxon-Mobile. Ya know why their gas costs so much more? They're offsetting their R&D budgets.

That's the crux of what causes human beings to technologically advance: To take what your neighbor has, to defend against your neighbors, or mother nature decides she really doesn't like us.

Zombie Reagan semirelated.
#105 - derpination (06/07/2014) [-]
Then perhaps Augustus is a far better example - I won't refute that. And I completely agree with you - you look at arseholes like Dick Fuld who collapsed a major bank and plunged thousands into debt and home repossession, I completely agree. And yet, at the same time, you have people like my professors (Physicists) trying to figure out how the universe works, who barely get to see their own kids because they spend so long studying and researching.

We need to take money away from all the finance and the faff and bureaucracy, and we need to give it to expansive industries - space flight, particle physics, chemical companies, computing, etc etc... and we need to use those new technologies to expand our resources (For example, Virgin Galactic is looking to try to start mining asteroids - something I wholeheartedly agree with).
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User avatar #180 - lulzformalaysiaair ONLINE (10/24/2014) [-]
Do you want an extra copy of Payday 1, I bought a 4 pack and have 1 left.
As in if you don't have it let me give you a free copy as gratitude.
User avatar #181 to #180 - marinepenguin (10/24/2014) [-]
What is payday?
User avatar #182 to #181 - lulzformalaysiaair ONLINE (10/24/2014) [-]
A game.
User avatar #183 to #182 - marinepenguin (10/24/2014) [-]
On steam I'm assuming?

Well I won't turn down a free game if you want to give it to me. Personally I'm glad you are asking questions and I'm excited to see how you progress.
User avatar #164 - lulzformalaysiaair ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
I'm thinking I need around 120g protein/day if I weigh 135lb now. I don't think my diet however it has transformed to be incredibly more healthy, as in I used to eat McD and hot pockets 24/7 and now the worst I'll have is subway has enough protein so I wanna buy some protein powder for shakes. You got any good, cheap product you know of and also any recipes? Like how much should I add? How much grams of protein should be in my shake anyhow? 50/ 75 over kill?

Also is it bad to have pizza pizza every friday? It's a family dinner thing but I can drop it if it's really bad. I'm sure 8 slices gives a lot of calories though.
User avatar #165 to #164 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
You can never really get too much protein. After a certain point your body just doesn't use it to repair muscle anymore and the extra goes into your waste. So just get some whey protein, 20-40 grams per shake is pretty normal.

As for the pizza, if you are wanting to gain size, 8 pieces of pizza aren't going to kill you. Remember that in bulking periods as long as you are eating decent most of the time, you'll be okay. A pizza or fast food a few times a week may actually be good, it's cheap easy calories that can help you put on size. Just don't make fast food a habit all the time. Subway is actually pretty good.
User avatar #168 to #165 - lulzformalaysiaair ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
there is soo many different whey protein brands to choose from, is there any difference really between them? Should i try to get the cheapest price for most amount?
User avatar #169 to #168 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
I would find a brand somewhere in the middle. Get something from GMC preferably. If you get something cheaper it'll have a lot of filler **** in there that isn't the best. The super high quality stuff isn't worth the cash. Elite Whey Protein from GMC is okay.
User avatar #170 to #169 - lulzformalaysiaair ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
ca.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/whey.html for something like this. It just says 24grams of protein, is that per serving? And how many scoops is something like 2 or 5lb of protein anyhow?
User avatar #173 to #170 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
It says 74 servings. So if you have two scoops a day that leaves you 37 days worth if you get a 5 pound tub.
User avatar #174 to #173 - lulzformalaysiaair ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
damn so 5lb - 37 days - $80 x 10 periods of time in a year = $800 a year approx. **** that's a lot but I guess it's worth it.
User avatar #175 to #174 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
Yea protein can be expensive for sure.
User avatar #176 to #175 - lulzformalaysiaair ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
actually more like 900-1k if +tax and shipping, i wonder if there are stores I can get this **** from so i dont pay shipping. Do they sell this **** in stores?
User avatar #177 to #176 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
I get my stuff from Wal-Mart.
User avatar #178 to #177 - lulzformalaysiaair ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
good i live 150m from one. imma go check some out there, thanks a lot for all your help
User avatar #179 to #178 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
No problem. They're normally in the pharmacy section. Usually around 20 bucks a pop.
User avatar #172 to #170 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
But I'm not sure how big that thing is in comparison to what I get.
User avatar #171 to #170 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
That would work just fine.

Normally 1 serving is 1 scoop. I almost always have 2 scoops.

And I don't know exactly how much there is in each one, but normally one of those things will last me a week or two. Depending if I have one shake or two a day.
User avatar #166 to #165 - lulzformalaysiaair ONLINE (10/13/2014) [-]
I don't think I get enough calories in my diet. Have any high calorie but good food in mind? The ones without the bad-for-you fat like McD.

Also thoughts on eating lots of fruit/berries?
User avatar #167 to #166 - marinepenguin (10/13/2014) [-]
Honestly I can't think of any foods that have a lot of calories, a lot of protein and are good for you. That's why a burger from dairy queen or whatever won't kill you every couple days. Berries and fruits obviously can't be bad things.
User avatar #119 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/14/2014) [-]
how long did it take you to go from a normal body to a fit (6 pack type) looking one? Implying you exercised right and ate correctly/alot.
User avatar #120 to #119 - marinepenguin (09/14/2014) [-]
I've always been athletic and had a six pack after hitting puberty. Although I was considered under weight at my height.

145lbs at 6'3

It took me a year to gain 50 pounds though.
User avatar #159 to #120 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/18/2014) [-]
how do you feel about sugar (23g for 2.6L) and non-sugar orange juice (that 100% pure **** ). Is it bad if I drink like 2L a week?
When i started working out I stopped drinking cola which i used to drink like 3L a week. I crave juice sometimes.v
User avatar #160 to #159 - marinepenguin (09/18/2014) [-]
Not all sugar is bad. Orange juice is fine. You don't have to dial in in your diet that badly.
User avatar #162 to #160 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/19/2014) [-]
Also do you happen to know how bad pizza is from fast food pizza joints? It aint deep fried, thats a start.
User avatar #163 to #162 - marinepenguin (09/19/2014) [-]
Fast food isn't too bad for you every now and then. It's very calorie dense and it can help you get in more calories a day. So while having a pizza or burger every couple days won't hurt, don't go overboard.
User avatar #161 to #160 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/19/2014) [-]
I just realized I ****** up, its 23g PER 250 ml. Nah **** thats too much especially since I got addicted and drank it all in a day.
User avatar #121 to #120 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/14/2014) [-]
Do you mind if i ask you a bunch of fitness related questions either today or tommorow?
User avatar #122 to #121 - marinepenguin (09/15/2014) [-]
Not at all
User avatar #123 to #122 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
How is your diet like? I'm guessing you track calories and make sure to eat the recommended amount needed to gain muscle at your current height/weight/age.

I have a lot of time on my hands this semester and I've been working out everyday for the past 2 weeks. I'v been repeating
1. Abs, legs (main focus is abs though)
2. Chest and Back area
3. Shoulders, Biceps and Triceps
but I've noticed that I feel using my Arm muscles during focus on the Chest/back area so I should probably go about doing a upper body/leg split where I alternate? Giving my chest, back, abs and arms just enough time for the protein synthesis window, the next day focusing on legs? I really am OK with working out everyday, I truly have the time for it, I have only 4 hours of class. So basically do you think this split is ok? Most people on /fit/ see no problem with it? inb4 beginurs suldnt do so moch, no pls
User avatar #124 to #123 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
I work out 1.5 hrs each day, at home also. About to get a bench that is incline-able.
User avatar #125 to #124 - marinepenguin (09/15/2014) [-]
My diet has become a bit more relaxed recently, but when I was seriously into the diet I made sure I ate 4000 calories a day and had 200+ grams of protein a day.

Now I'm probably doing about 3500 a day while eating 180ish grams of protein a day and still seeing some steady gains.

My tip is, if you aren't too much into getting HUGE and super strong, then you don't have to worry TOO much about diet, just eat enough, and avoid the ******** foods, and get enough protein without overtraining and you'll be fine.

I'll continue with training in the next comment.
User avatar #128 to #125 - marinepenguin (09/15/2014) [-]
Training wise, everyone is different, you'll have to experiment (and more then likely fail horribly) with what you think works best for your body type. I'm tall, so I did a ton of volume with a lot of compound movements, and that's what worked for me for a while.

Now in my opinion with your workout, I wouldn't worry about abs, most if not all of the big movements need the abs to stabilize the movement, so they'll grow and get strong along with every other part of your body.

I would also recommend a separate day for Chest, shoulders, back, and legs. With what you are doing you are working out your triceps and biceps 2 days in a row, with workouts specifically geared towards them. Not necessary. When you do chest or shoulders you'll also be working your triceps, and on back day you'll be doing biceps.

I honestly have no experience with an upper and lower body split, but I can imagine that if you are doing dozens of sets during a workout you are on a road to overtraining. You should really work one muscle with no more then 14 total sets, that includes movements where the muscle is only a secondary mover, like bench would include working triceps.

If I were you, I would continue to do something similar like you are doing now, except cut out ab work, do back and chest separately, and dedicate one day to shoulders. On chest and shoulder days throw in a few tricep movements, on back day throw in a few bicep movements. Focus on the big lifts, I cannot stress this enough, want to see serious size and strength gains? Center your workouts around Bench, Squat, Deadlift, and Overhead press. Improve your lifts every week in some way.
User avatar #132 to #128 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
"and dedicate one day to shoulders"
Are you sure, that's pretty hard especially since the shoulder is like a secondary muscle to many of the other upper body workout and vice-versa. Most of the shoulder workouts i've done give me the biggest burn in the bicep/tricep muscle area anyways.
User avatar #133 to #132 - marinepenguin (09/15/2014) [-]
The shoulder is a primary muscle, it is responsible for a massive amount of movements when it comes to upper body. I neglected shoulders with that same kind of thinking for a long time, and now that I've dedicated a day to shoulders and overhead pressing, my shoulders have grown and nearly doubled in strength. That in turn has increased my bench, making my chest larger, and my triceps larger and stronger.

The only thing that I would keep an eye on, is make sure you don't do a lot of pressing movements. Especially if you decided to do chest and shoulders on the same day, terrible programming and really **** with your shoulders, and shoulder health is something that you struggle to get back when you lose it.

Here's an example of my general shoulder workout.

Overhead press 5x5
Landmine press 5x8
Leaning side raise 5x8

That's it, and I'm an intermediate lifter. You don't have to spend 3 hours in the gym and do 15 movements to see results, those guys you see that do that tend to look the same every year.
User avatar #136 to #133 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
Well see to me that seems so.. easy I hate to say it. I feel much more soreness from like 15-20 reps + then from just 5-8, you barely even feel the muscle pain. You more so feel the inability to lift such a heavy object, I can't describe it so well, but its a totally different feeling for me.
User avatar #140 to #136 - marinepenguin (09/15/2014) [-]
If you are lifting a weight that is heavy enough to where you are struggling on the last rep or two, you will still feel sore at first. Eventually you won't get very sore.

You'll have to get into your mind the soreness does not always equal a good workout. It's easy for a trainer to trash someone and make them feel like they did something, it's hard to make them actually see results.

If you do what you are doing now, you will see some results, because you are a novice and your body will adapt and become bigger and stronger. Do that consistently for a year with a good diet and you may gain 20 pounds, but then after 3 more years you could be the same weight. If you did it right and kept things simple, you'll put on 40+ pounds of weight in a year if you eat enough. Then you should gain 10 pounds at the absolute minimum every year after that. Trust me, I've seen it happen again and again, with friends I've helped train, with my brother, and with myself.
User avatar #150 to #140 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/16/2014) [-]
Sorry for asking so much questions, just need to finish understanding this **** so I can finally get to work without being paranoid of doing it wrong.
User avatar #149 to #140 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/16/2014) [-]
Ok thanks for the advice.
So, I guess I just have a couple other questions to get me on tract.

Do you have any schedule in mind that has me working out every day? (Like I said I really have the time for it).
You said I should have one day just for shoulders, that would mean I couldn't do the split day workouts right? How would that work with other muscle groups though?
I guess this comes back to the do you have a schedule in mind for me. And what kinda shoulder exercises should I do on shoulder day if that's the way I should go, the one's you wrote above I'm guessing^?
If you are to make a schedule could you please specify the number of sets I should have (and how much should I rest in between sets anyways?)?

So far I've been doing high volume **** like I said.
Like for example on Bicep, Tricep Shoulder day I had like:
______ 3 sets to failure
_______ 3 sets to failure
______ 3 sets to failure
______ 3 sets to failure
_______ 3 sets to failure
_______ 3 sets to failure
______ 3 sets to failure

But after reading your advice and gaining knowledge on the internet, I know now that's obv not the best way to go about it.
User avatar #154 to #149 - marinepenguin (09/16/2014) [-]
You really shouldn't work out EVERY day, your body will need rest, even when you are only stressing certain muscles on certain days.

I know what you mean though, because I don't like working out every other day even because I feel like I can do more. So I go 4 days in a row. Back, Chest, Legs, Shoulders, then have an off day before starting again. If you want to do something like that then you would have to lower the amount of work you would do each day, because like I've said before, over training could be an issue.

In any given workout, the general rule is to do no more then 12-14 sets per muscle group. And that doesn't mean just the primary muscles, it means the secondary movers in the lift too. So for Bench you would include triceps in there as well, along with a little shoulders (I would worry about that so much unless you are doing shoulders the same day as chest).

The only shoulder movement that I would highly highly recommend is the overhead press, although since some peoples shoulders may not be healthy that lifts pains them, if you cannot do overhead presses (which I'd bet money that you'll have no issues), I would do landmine shoulder presses instead. But make overhead press your priority, then add in a few movements (like 2 or 3) that work different angles of the shoulder (Front, side, and rear)

As for your high volume workout, never ever ever ever go to failure that many times in a workout. I haven't gone to failure in a lift for at least a few months, not once. As for resting between sets, 90 seconds is usually the rule, but I never time my rest periods, I just go with how I feel, and don't let myself lose focus or get out of the zone.

One tip I just thought of, a BIG one. Keep a training journal. Write down all your lifts, how much you do and how many sets and reps you do. Keep track of your workouts.
User avatar #155 to #154 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/16/2014) [-]
OK thanks man.

So you do Back, Chest, Legs, Shoulders, Rest and repeat? Doesn't that overwork your arms because usually a lot of the shoulder/chest/back workouts use it as a secondary muscle? and your doing them 3 in a row.
User avatar #156 to #155 - marinepenguin (09/16/2014) [-]
Yes that is my routine.

And your arms are not one muscle group. You can't work your biceps and triceps at the same time in one movement. So When I do back I'll be working biceps, thus my triceps get a break. On Chest day I work Triceps, so Biceps get a break. On legs both get a break. And on shoulders I don't implement any tricep working movements other then overhead presses, so they really don't get a ton of work. The days where they get the most work are on Back (and bicep) day, and chest (and tricep) day. Understand?
User avatar #157 to #156 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/16/2014) [-]
Yeah, do you literally make sure to work on Back and Bicep/Chest and tricep (individually) or do they just usually go together in an exercise?
User avatar #158 to #157 - marinepenguin (09/16/2014) [-]
You can throw in some curls on back day, but a lot of back movements work biceps as well. I tend to make chest a tricep day as well, so I throw in some skullcrushers or close grip bench presses.
User avatar #151 to #149 - marinepenguin (09/16/2014) [-]
Well if you start off right (when 99% of people don't) you'll definitely create a great base of strength and size within a year. I'm actually starting my back day right now, so I'll answer your post in full when I'm finished.
User avatar #152 to #151 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/16/2014) [-]
(Seems like you are working out pretty late, 9:30 I'm assuming, does it make a better difference to work out earlier like 4,5,6?).
User avatar #153 to #152 - marinepenguin (09/16/2014) [-]
Nah, I just work out whenever I have the time. Between my job and school I sometimes wait until late.
User avatar #134 to #133 - marinepenguin (09/15/2014) [-]
Landmine lateral raise* my bad
User avatar #126 to #125 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
"My tip is, if you aren't too much into getting HUGE and super strong"

To be honest though, I'd really like that. Going into uni next year so I'd like to get as fit is possible. Should I maybe even go above the recommended amount of daily calories and protein. I am afterall going to be working out everyday and my to put a lot of soreness on my muscles. I usually keep switching between exercises till it pains me to much to continue for the whole day.
User avatar #127 to #126 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
*and am going to put a lot of soreness on my muscles
User avatar #130 to #127 - marinepenguin (09/15/2014) [-]
I'm gonna take a shower so I'll read your response after that.
User avatar #129 to #127 - marinepenguin (09/15/2014) [-]
Not necessary, it'll take years to reach the point where you will be considered an advanced lifter. If you eat any more then 4000 calories (which may be too many for you if you are shorter) you will gain fat, you can't just gain as much muscle as you want. Work to get good at the movements, then worry about size gains. Honestly I could write a book about this and I'm trying to keep this short and sweet, so bear with me if I take a while.

And honestly you really don't need to do any more then 4-6 movements per workout, depending on what you are doing and how far along you are.
User avatar #135 to #129 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
i never understood that, why do only 4-6 movements per workout when you can do so much more, doesnt it confuse your muscle. Doesn't it need originality and dont you need different movements for most muscle groups that target them specifically?
User avatar #137 to #135 - marinepenguin (09/15/2014) [-]
I completely understand why it's confusing, and it's something I really struggled with until recently.

A muscle doesn't need to be confused, it needs consistent and ever increasing stress. "Muscle confusion" only prevents you from making any major progress, because adapting to a stress is what makes you get stronger and bigger, so you keep the workout the same while increasing the weight, which is a way of increasing the stress on your body. I increase the weights on all my lifts by 5 pounds every week, I've been doing this for about 2 months now since I switch programs, and I went from benching 150 for 5 sets of 5 reps, to 185 of the same sets and reps. I went from benching 205 to 230.

The absolute best way to build muscle is to focus on the movements that target huge groups of muscles, like Bench, Squat, Deadlift, overhead press, power clean, cleans, snatches, etc.
User avatar #139 to #137 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
also is getting a lot of sleep SUPER important? If so I will but i prefer to get around 8 hours. Too little?
Also thanks for answering all my ****
User avatar #142 to #139 - marinepenguin (09/15/2014) [-]
Sleep is very important, always try to get at LEAST 6 hours of sleep. But as long as you don't stay up til 2 or 3 every morning and get a decent nights rest every night it should never be an issue.
User avatar #138 to #137 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
Well I could do it, my only small problem is that i wont have anyone watching over me because I workout at home...
#141 to #138 - marinepenguin (09/15/2014) [-]
So do I. Do you have some solid weights? This is what my home gym looks like. I can do all the major lifts and more here. And I have over 500 pounds of weights.
User avatar #143 to #141 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
Of course I got solid weights, barbell and dumbells and like i said im gonna get a incline-able bench

You ever get to the point where you lift such a heavy weight that you may not be able to move it to the proper place, a.k.a why people have watchmen?
User avatar #146 to #143 - marinepenguin (09/15/2014) [-]
I need to get to bed, I have college in the morning, so if you have any other questions then I'll answer them at some point tomorrow.
User avatar #148 to #146 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
Yeah thats cool man thanks. I was about to go to bed too anyhow
User avatar #145 to #143 - marinepenguin (09/15/2014) [-]
What is your weight and height btw? Along with how much body fat you have?
User avatar #147 to #145 - lulzfornigeriagirl (09/15/2014) [-]
5'9, 130 lb.as for body fat, I'm not really sure but i'm not fat, slightly skinny if anything.
User avatar #144 to #143 - marinepenguin (09/15/2014) [-]
I only use a spotter whenever I am maxing out on a lifts. So I don't have a spotter while benching 185, but I do when I'm doing 215 for 2 reps.

If you are confident that you can get the weight without issues then you don't really need one. You probably aren't lifting enough right now to merit concern to be honest.
#118 - syrianassassin ONLINE (09/13/2014) [-]
i like how the JIDF working about the thing we had talked
User avatar #111 - donnybergerstory ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
No homo, can you post a pic of your arms. Or just your muscles, this sounds so gay but I'm just curious as to how ripped you are.
#112 to #111 - marinepenguin (08/09/2014) [-]
No worries bro, I've seen you on Fitness some, so I can see why you'd be curious.

I'm about upper 180s in this photo. Currently in the lower 190s now. I wouldn't say I'm ripped, but I'm trying to get there.

My goal is to reach a lean 200, and I have more fat on me now then I'd like.
User avatar #113 to #112 - donnybergerstory ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
What supplements you on?
User avatar #114 to #113 - marinepenguin (08/09/2014) [-]
I only take Whey Protein
User avatar #115 to #114 - donnybergerstory ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
Oh. I just started taking 100% Whey Protein. I used to take this: www.gnc.com/GNC-Total-Lean-Lean-Shake-BURN-Chocolate-Fudge/product.jsp?productId=33755596

Then I dropped 15 lbs and I am onto whey protein.
User avatar #116 to #115 - marinepenguin (08/09/2014) [-]
That's cool. I've only every used Whey, I'm not going to start trying to actually slim down until I hit around 210 or if I put on too much fat in the process. I'm not sure how big I could get while staying natty though.
User avatar #117 to #116 - donnybergerstory ONLINE (08/09/2014) [-]
Well good luck bro. Keep at it.
User avatar #102 - derpityhurr (07/29/2014) [-]
Hey, I hope you dont mind answering some questions of mine, you seem to be pretty smart about all this workout stuff and im just starting out
User avatar #103 to #102 - marinepenguin (07/29/2014) [-]
Well I'm flattered! I'm sure I could help you, what are you wanting to know exactly?
User avatar #104 to #103 - derpityhurr (07/29/2014) [-]
Well I wanted some advice on a few aspects of the workouts ive been doing the past month
I've run a mile everyday before lifting as a bit of cardio and to warm up; I don't run longer (which i easily could) because I dont want to be fatigued for my actual workout
Do you think this beneficial? I'm aiming to be a bit more muscular and to lose my excess fat
Also, I wanted advice on the exercises that I've been doing; should i post them all?
User avatar #105 to #104 - marinepenguin (07/29/2014) [-]
Well first off, running a mile before lifting isn't a terrible idea, it'll help condition you and keep your cardiovascular system in good shape. BUT, jogging is hell on your knees and if you do too much you can actually impair your ability to gain lean muscle mass. So if I were you, I would do about 3 or 4 40 yard sprints for a warmup instead. It'll condition you, burn fat, builds muscle throughout your body, and isn't hard on the joints.

As for the exercises, post away.
User avatar #106 to #105 - derpityhurr (07/29/2014) [-]
So here's what ive been doing:
Back:
4x10 Lat Pulldowns,
4x10 seated Low row,
4x10 Bent-over dumbbell row,
4x10 Back extensions,
4x10 of this byebyebodyfatbridge.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/969.jpg,
4x10 of this www.osu-tulsa.okstate.edu/wellness/equipment/reverse-flies-lg.jpg,
Shoulder:
4x10 dumbbell shrugs, 4x10 dumbbell shoulder press, 4x10 shoulder press machine, 4x10 front dumbbell raise,
Abs:
4x10 decline weighted sit-ups, 4x10 of this www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/exerciseImages/sequences/340/Male/l/340_2.jpg , 4x10 of this one machine, cant find it, 4x10 of this other machine,
Legs:
4x10 seated leg press, 4x10 of this s1.hubimg.com/u/2775218_f520.jpg , 4x10 of this www.biokineticspt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/VR1-Leg-Extension_13050.jpg , 4x10 one-legged dumbbell calf raises,
Chest:
4x10 dumbbell press, 4x10 bench press, 4x10 of this www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2012/rise-of-the-machines-15-assisted-exercises-that-work_e.jpg, 4x10 incline bench press,
Biceps:
4x10 curls,
4x10 reverse grip pull-up,
4x10 www.nationalfitnessequipments.com/images/Bicep_Machine_Curl.jpg ,
4x10 seated curl bar,
Tricep:
4x10 lying-down dumbbell tricep extension, 4x10 dips,
4x10 arm extension machine, 4x10 triceps push down
User avatar #108 to #106 - marinepenguin (07/29/2014) [-]
Couple tips here. You have a TON of volume, and it's really unnecessary. You should really only have 4-6 movements per workout max, usually centered around one big lift, which you don't seem to be doing any of those besides bench. So say for back, I'd do Deadlifts, then pull-ups (instead of lat pulldowns), bent over rows (barbell preferable), and some kind of rear delt movement, and then I would probably add in one bicep movement.

You also seem to use a ton of machine work, does the gym you go to have any free weights or barbells? Those will have more carryover to real life and a higher amount of strength and size gain compared to machines.

Lastly, switch it up from 4x10 sometimes man, throw in some 5x5 (considered the best combination of strength and size), 5/3/1 (second best), 10x3 (yes, 10 sets of 3, lots of size gain, lots of strength gain). Toy around with the sets and reps, stick with one for a few months and see how you grow. Find out what works best for you. I'm really tall for a lifter so 5x5 tends to work best for me.
User avatar #109 to #108 - derpityhurr (07/29/2014) [-]
I feel like I should haveve included this; I do all these over 5 days, with back on Monday, abs and shoulders on Tuesday, legs on Wednesday, chest on Thursday, and triceps and biceps on Friday
Do you still feel that I should do less movements?
User avatar #110 to #109 - marinepenguin (07/29/2014) [-]
Yes, I had assumed that you split it up.

Like I said, you only really need 4-6 movements centered around one main lift. Any more then that and you risk overtraining, especially when you work out 5 days a week. I would know, I used to do what you are doing, except I went 6 days a week. After awhile I would start getting hurt, my lower back, then my upper back, then my hip, or my knee. Now that I toned it down I have absolutely no injuries and I feel better then ever.
User avatar #107 to #106 - derpityhurr (07/29/2014) [-]
Hopefully that wasnt too cringey
Also about the sprinting, it seems like a good idea
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This is a good time. Many laughs are to be had.
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That looks absolutely disgusting holy **** .
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considering my latest user on my profile is syrianassassin, I have no idea
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