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#85 - anon (18 hours ago) [-]
The Greens are autistic hippies
|#228 - maybe , just maybe because there is another party trying to …||09/27/2015 on he really is.||0|
|#48 - As a european , I think this is the best US president , the wo… [+] (49 new replies)||09/19/2015 on he really is.||+42|
#187 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
#194 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
Kinda reminds me of the time Reagan gave weapons to Iran
#102 - kanadetenshi (09/19/2015) [-]
He added more in the debt than all previous presidents combined, he has bombed innocent people and promoted more wars than Bush, he broke shitload of promises, his healthcare plan has been an utter disaster and he resorted to lying to the public about employment figured.
He's literally one of the worst presidents.
#215 - Deeticky (09/19/2015) [-]
>Reagan and Bush both added a greater percent of debt than Obama did.
>Yep, bombing innocent people is what U.S. presidents do, I'll give you that one.
>I have no idea what you're talking about in terms if him "promoting more wars." Obama has been working to take us out of wars, not put us into them. ISIS is a threat, but we're completing airstrikes and allowing other countries (like Iraq and Syria) to supply the ground troops, so that American soldiers don't have to die.
>His healthcare plan was originally better, then Republicans fought it tooth and nail every step of the way, gutted it, and have wasted taxpayer money trying to repeal it through the courts even though they lose every time. Also worth noting, Obamacare has helped a lot of people get insured in States that have embraced, like mine (Minnesota).
#189 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
"He added more in the debt than all previous presidents combined"
He added 6.16 trillion. Bush added 5.85 trillion.
The rest are insignificant because they either had a surplus (bill clinton)
or are too far back in time to compare in dollars without adjusting for inflation, which you obviously didn't do.
Guess what obama's number 1 and 2 are in terms of adding to the debt
Defense spending and tax cuts.
I'll bet half my dick you're against cutting defense or raising taxes.
#120 - congorepublic (09/19/2015) [-]
Really no significant increase of debt or deficit from Obama's part if you look at a full graph of the 20th-21st centuries.
Also, literally every president has bombed innocent people. It's just that Obama doesn't insist on bombing 250 thousand civilians like your best friend, Bush, did.
How does a healthcare plane become a disaster? It's better to have the option of a shitty universal healthcare than no option at all.
#149 - kanadetenshi (09/19/2015) [-]
Bush's deficits where lower than the lowest amount of deficit Obama has now. Bush just had the bad luck of the financial crisis, not his actual deficit spending in his whole term.
#222 - congorepublic (09/20/2015) [-]
Do you understand how politics works?
What a president does on the spot will not have an effect on the economy on the spot.
Meaning that when Bush let 9/11 happen under his rule and waged two wars that costed 4 trillion dollars, the economic effects of that won't be felt until months or even years later.
Similarly, what Obama does now will not have an immediate effect on the economy. Rather, if Obama does something stupid as of now (which he has) then by the time we feel the economic/financial consequences, some new president has already taken his place.
#223 - congorepublic (09/20/2015) [-]
This is exactly why the former governor of Minnesota, Jesse Ventura, said that he pitied whoever was gonna hold presidential office in 2009, because he knew that that president would be blamed for the financial crisis brought about by the policies that Bush implemented 4 or 5 years prior.
#138 - kanadetenshi (09/19/2015) [-]
Yeah adding EIGHT TRILLION to the debt in 2 terms is totally insignificant. It's not like economists have been fucking criticizing him for continuing burdening us with debt.
If you don't get the danger of massive debt i'd suggest looking at Greece or at least become old enough to take proper economics 101 education.
#141 - congorepublic (09/19/2015) [-]
The debt held by the public refers to money borrowed from investors outside of the federal government. The total debt represents debt held by the public as well as money the federal government owes itself, including for programs such as Social Security and Medicare.
"On Jan. 20, 2009, the date of Obama's inauguration, the debt held by the public -- as accrued by Obama’s predecessors -- stood at roughly $6.307 trillion and the total debt was about $10.6 trillion, according to the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s "Debt to the Penny" calculator.
Since the amount listed for Obama's predecessors in the chain e-mail appears to be in reference to the $6.307 trillion in debt held by the public on Jan. 20, 2009, that's the starting point for our analysis.
Next, we'll show how much both forms of debt had increased as of April 27, 2012 -- the last date available at the time we received the chain e-mail.
By that date, the debt held by the public was about $10.8 trillion and total debt had climbed to roughly $15.6 trillion.
So, under Obama’s watch, debt held by the public had increased by about $4.5 trillion, or roughly 72 percent. Total debt had increased by nearly $5 trillion, or about 47 percent.
By either form of debt, the amounts added during Obama’s administration were not greater than the levels on the day he took office.
Now, let’s explain one way that this chain e-mail could be considered accurate.
If we take into account administration projections for debt held by the public as of the end of fiscal year 2013, then the amount of that debt added would exceed the level from Jan. 20, 2009. Fiscal year 2013 is the last budget year to begin during Obama’s first term.
According to the White House’s Office of Management and Budget, debt held by the public is estimated to be about $12.636 trillion at the end of fiscal year 2013, which concludes Sept. 30, 2013.
Based on that estimate, the amount of debt held by the public that was added during Obama’s tenure would be about $6.329 trillion, surpassing the amount as of his inauguration by about $22 billion.
In terms of total debt -- projected to increase to $17.5 trillion -- the amount added by the end of fiscal year 2013 would still not exceed the total amount on Jan. 20, 2009.
Before we get to our ruling, it's worth noting that actions taken by both Presidents Bush and Obama have contributed to the debt increases over the last decade. Those factors include tax cuts enacted under Bush and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, both of which were started by the Bush administration, as well as the stimulus bill and another tax cut deal approved by Obama.
Experts also have pointed to the weak economy as a contributing factor to the higher debt, given the reduction in federal revenues and greater spending on items like unemployment benefits.
A chain e-mail circulating in New Jersey claims that Obama has "added" $6.5 trillion to the national debt, while his 43 predecessors added $6.3 trillion combined.
But the chain e-mail is wrong to suggest the additional debt during Obama’s tenure already has exceeded the level of his predecessors. In terms of both debt held by the public and total debt, the Obama administration has added less debt than the amounts in place when he took office.
Still, the national debt is projected to keep increasing. The amount of added debt held by the public may exceed Obama’s predecessors by October 2013, according to White House projections."
Your claims literally sound like every single Republic took a shit and you came out the pile. Go actually learn what debt means you fucking prepubescent cunt.
#144 - kanadetenshi (09/19/2015) [-]
Public debt while being based on investors outside of government is still a product of the Obama administration contributing to debt, it's very misleading to say that because the debt is outside the federal government that it plays no role in it.
For example a big amount of debt held by the "public" is the Federal Reserve and central banks, which while private in name the federal reserve system is based on a government implemented central bank system. The federal reserve is a large contributor of the debt precisely because Obama allows them to constantly control and change the interest rates.
Some politicians who actually understand economics know that the federal reserve contributes to large debts wants the federal reserve to be audited, ended or at least be limited in the amount of printing, spending and borrowing from other countries, creating massive debt. But the Obama administration continues to protect the federal reserve from that happening. Another example of public spending are corporations putting themselves into massive debts because they can never fail, why can they neer fail? Because the government keeps bailing them out. Thus Obama contributes to public debt and saying that he put less in debt because it's "totally different with public spending" is factually false.
#122 - kanadetenshi (09/19/2015) [-]
Deficit =/= Debt
Actually he has bombed more civilians than Bush and more countries than Bush. He's arguably much more of a warmonger and the fact that others are doesn't excuse it.
The registration was an utter disaster mocked by everyone, the middle class have been significantly hurt, people have lost their choices of insurance and the plan created massive tax hikes for the middle and poor class. And kind of a false dichotomy to say there must be either shitty healthcare or nothing.
#129 - congorepublic (09/19/2015) [-]
Read what I said again, retard.
There has been neither an increase in debt OR in deficit.
Hey, retard. Can you show me one source that his bombings amounted to more than 250 thousand deaths?
Also, retard. How did it Obamacare do any of that shit?
You're just doing what every other Republifag does
"Oh, it's been an absolute NIGHTMARE!! Obamacare's been a DISASTER"
HOW, though? Give me a fucking source that proves it.
#135 - kanadetenshi (09/19/2015) [-]
Kinda funny how you call someone retard while being a retard who doesn't even do basic research on debt.
You're ignoring the fact that these wars are still ongoing, meaning that a large portion of innocents killed where under Obama. In terms of Drone strikes Obama killed more than Bush too. www.globalresearch.ca/obama-has-killed-more-people-with-drones-than-died-on-911/5423282
And that doesn't even count the civilians murdered by his interventions in Libya and Syria.
Just like Democrats go "HURRR BUSH WAS LITERALLY HITLER" without giving sources. I gave you examples.
#139 - congorepublic (09/19/2015) [-]
"The Bureau of Investigative Journalism reports that up to 4,404 people have been killed – just in Pakistan and Yemen alone – between 2004 and 2014."
How is that more than Bush?
I think every person with a brain is against the Libyan intervention. But to say that it compares even slightly with the body count in the Iraq War is absolutely ridiculous.
Even if you include every drone casualty, every military intervention, and all collateral damage underneath Obama, it will still all not add up to the death toll of Bush's Iraq War.
#142 - congorepublic (09/19/2015) [-]
Show me how I'm being selective.
"hurr durr citation needed"
How many people died from drone strikes? A few thousand
How many people died from Libyan intervention? A few thousand. But for your case, let's assume 50 thousand died. This number is COMPLETELY and UTTERLY exaggerated, but let's pretend it's realistic for your own sake.
Do the math, kid. If we assume 100 thousand people died from Obama, that STILL falls 150 thousand short on what Bush did in a SINGLE war.
Did Obama continue with the Afghan War? Yes. But he has no choice. Simply pulling out and ending the conflict overnight will be detrimental to both the Afghanis and the U.S. We'll create another ISIS and possible another Syrian crisis.
#118 - madvulcan (09/19/2015) [-]
>Implying none of the other presidents before him did any of that.
Seriously, in the last 20 years, what president hasn't bombed innocent people, lied to the public, and broken a ton of campaign promises? I thought that was just par for the course. Also out of curiosity (because I admittedly don't keep up on it), what's the source on "added more to the national debt than all previous presidents"?
#119 - kanadetenshi (09/19/2015) [-]
Kinda amazing at how every time i criticize Obama people go like "BUT OTHER PEOPLE ARE BAD TOO" as if it's justified. I never heard this excuse when people criticized Bush.
I argued against the claim that Obama is one of the best presidents, not that Obama is the only bad president in existence.
#134 - madvulcan (09/19/2015) [-]
No one, really, but not until now did you make the number of countries bombed part of your argument. Between LBJ and Nixon, Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia were bombed, just 3 countries, and yet those are remembered in a rather dark light. It's not so much where the bombs fall, but rather how many people suffer for it.
And none of the other presidents have promised to close gitmo or created a disastrous medical plan, but they have all lied and gone back on promises.
#191 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
You just said you find it amusing how people are comparing obama's wrongdoings to other presidents to justify it, and then minutes later telling us how you don't recall the wrongdoing of other presidents...
>Stop comparing obama to other presidents to justify his actions
>Obama is one of the worst presidents
>Don't prove me wrong though, that'd be justifying his actions
Are you well?
#133 - TheMather (09/19/2015) [-]
They're not the same, no. Debt is the cumulative result of deficit. The deficit is the rate at which the debt increases, this has consistently sunk during Obama's term.
And the reason the deficit has been higher during Obama's term is because there was shit to deal with during the transitioning period; Bush's term ended at a cliff, and you're complaining about being at a lower altitude while Obama is dragging you back up the hill.
#77 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
Hey fellow europebro, friendly reminder that at this point in time the USA is directly paying for our safety while we make more immigrant shelters instead.
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#81 - enslavedyouth (09/19/2015) [-]
But fam, kebab isn't the problem
Kebab is tasty and many kebabs in my city are hard working individuals
Of course most of them have kebab shops, but that's no problem because kebab is fucking tasty
A father and son kiosk across the street
Many hard working kebabs in the vocational school I'm visiting
And then we have the shit ton of bad apples, begging in the streets, causing unnecessary violence and if you speak out against it you're a fucking nazi
Remove bad apples
#84 - hydraetis (09/19/2015) [-]
Like when my great (x3 or so) grandpa moved out of Yugoslavia, did he go "fuck you!" to the country saying the country should do more to suit him? No, that glorious bastard saw the matter of being allowed to live in the country to be an insane privilege, and so to thank the place for said privilege he went so far as to never speak his native language again, like even if someone else from Yugoslavia talked to him in their language, he'd reply in English.
Now where are the people with that kind of gratitude towards their new countries?
#87 - enslavedyouth (09/19/2015) [-]
We have two-three guys in class who speak turkish sometimes, but really, they do it just for fun and always reply and talk in german to non turkish speakers
I don't care what language they speak as long as they conform to the country they're in, and they are good people, very friendly and work hard to make something out of themselves. Not in the least being obnoxious and the first to speak up when someone is seriously annoying to the point it disrupts the lesson (we have a few, mainly girls.. they talk and talk and talk and I'm just trying to fucking study)
As for me, I'm going to move to the UK when I can, which means I'm going to study the culture beforehand and try to conform as much as I possibly can, not speak german randomly and all that stuff that is expected to me if I want to be a functioning part of society.. and most importantly, getting a fucking job instead of living from benefits. Hell, I already feel guilty that my dad has to pay for literally everything and I feel like fucking shit for being unable to pay a single cent because I'm still a trainee
Fucking hell I don't care if they come from war torn countries, if they can't adapt shoot them on the spot
#83 - hydraetis (09/19/2015) [-]
ehh, I just don't like how all the minorities are allowed to turn our cultures into hybrids while they have a safe haven keeping their own culture in pure, pristine condition, but we can't.
Like in Auckland (NZ), it hardly feels like NZ any more to me thanks to the massive amounts of god damn indians and other shit everywhere, converting entire roads into their own little haven. I mean if they wanted to go to a city that is 100% their culture and their culture only, they've got entire countries to go back to. But if I want to go chill out somewhere that is 100% my culture only, well I can just get fucked because that doesn't exist.
If they can't fit in their own countries, then maybe they should stop breeding like rabbits on fucking viagra.
#93 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
Same thing in Straya brother Indians mate..
#53 - anon (09/19/2015) [-]
this is the country that has more limousines than public ambulances? the country that took a massive dive when the us even mentioned trade sanctions? You're supporting the country that invaded the ukraine on the same pretences as hitler invaded austria? Yeah great guy.
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