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#211 - greyhoundfd (23 hours ago) [-]
Well, let's say you fire an artillery shell into a developed area. If that developed area is a small suburban or rural neighborhood, you might kill 10-20 people. If that developed area is New York City or Tokyo, you will likely kill thousands if not tens of thousands. Germany pretty much scoured all of Deutschland looking for jews, gays, and anyone else they deemed untermensch, while significantly less effort is required to kill similar numbers through ethnic atrocities in an area like China.
They're still horrific things, but the fact that the numbers are greater doesn't make it a worse calamity, it's based on the circumstances and the effort required.
#241 - anonymous (22 hours ago) [-]
Are you fucking retarded? You'd kill a few dozen if they're crowded together at ground zero with HE rounds
#325 - greyhoundfd (6 hours ago) [-]
That's why I gave the example of New York or Tokyo. Paris is not terribly dense, while New York City and Tokyo have seemingly made it their mission statement to pack as many people into the same area as possible. If you fired a Gustav shell into Times Square, the casualties on the streets alone would number over 500, add in the buildings and you've broken a thousand, if not several thousand.
#214 - leadstriker (23 hours ago) [-]
the thing is, you full well know where you are firing and how many people are gonna kill. it doesn't matter if i can kill ants on masse by stepping on them or having to kill them by toothpick. Yes one is more difficult that the other. you full well know how many you are going to kill. When the US dropped an atomic bomb on japan you don't hear people say "well it wasn't as bad as 'this' because it was easy or possible to do it so the crime of killing 100,000 by nuke is lesser than killing 100,000 by a sword." my main argument is it doesn't matter the tactic or weapon or the circumstance 1 person= 1 person.
#216 - greyhoundfd (23 hours ago) [-]
I know, I'm simply saying that if the Germans had been able to kill 20 million Jews, or 30 million, or 40 million, they would have done it in a heartbeat. It was like a sport for the people ordering their elimination. Not quite the same in the case of Japan. While the Japanese did shitty things to the Chinese, it was not the active goal of their attacks.
#222 - greyhoundfd (23 hours ago) [-]
Yes. I can do basic math, I understand that 20 million is more than killing 11 million. My point is just that we all acknowledge circumstances change things. You don't include the casualties of war with the people who were in the death camps, so they're obviously two different things.
My point is just that the German Holocaust was based on an ethnic hatred. If you put x number of jews in Germany, and notified the Nazis that there were x number of jews in their borders, then they would have just continued killing and killing until there were no jews left. If the Japanese had completely secured China, then they wouldn't have just kept killing and killing Chinese until there were no Chinese left, just until the country was secure again. Ethnic Cleansing is very different than other crimes against humanity. The only limitations on the German Genocide was time and population, the only limit on the Japanese Genocide was simply how vigorously fought the war was.
I'm not saying that the Japanese are "good guys", just that if the Germans had had the ability, there would have been many more deaths in the camps than in the Japanese occupation of China and Manchuria.
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