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#95 - A faggot 09/24/2014 on (untitled) +16
#13 - Did everyone just forget about the admin we had BEFORE the cur…  [+] (2 new replies) 09/24/2014 on The History of Funnyjunk 0
User avatar #15 - thingexplain (09/24/2014) [-]
There was no other Admin before this one. Are you spreading dissident lies, comrade?
#25 - joikacake (09/24/2014) [-]
You explain this thing very well, comrade.
#376 - Don't forget Russia's nuclear subs in the mediterranean by Israel 09/24/2014 on An FJ User Died Tonight 0
#369 - Thanks for clearing that up for me, a lot of that information …  [+] (2 new replies) 09/24/2014 on An FJ User Died Tonight +1
#372 - kmichel (09/24/2014) [-]
No problem. I also forgot to mention that Russia's only naval base in the region is located in Syria, so add that to the list of Russia's interests. There are some very well-researched articles on the the Guardian or Salon that will cover most of these points, and link you to sources so that you can verify the information for yourself (for example, proof of Qatar's willingness to fund a US war). I tried to make points only if they have respected sources to back them up, but there's still some speculation in there and I hope you can recognize it then decide for yourself whether to believe my opinion or not. I've been researching this for a long time, but I'm sure that I'm still missing some pieces. It's complicated!
#376 - madefornsfwlol (09/24/2014) [-]
Don't forget Russia's nuclear subs in the mediterranean by Israel
#355 - How would we get natural gas from bombing Syria and Iraq? I ca…  [+] (7 new replies) 09/24/2014 on An FJ User Died Tonight 0
#365 - kmichel (09/24/2014) [-]
3/3

Hopefully that wasn't too much of a mess to read through. I wanted to put the present in the perspective of the past. Like I said though, there are plenty of reasons to fight ISIS, but saving civilians isn't one of them,and if it were, then it'd be inconsistent with how we've behaved since WWII. You can't really fault the US for that way of thinking though.

With Qatar and Saudi Arabia so enthusiastic to support the US against ISIS, and Qatar still itching to supply Europe with natural gas, I can't help but think that natural gas is still on the table.
#369 - madefornsfwlol (09/24/2014) [-]
Thanks for clearing that up for me, a lot of that information is new to me..
It definitely makes me re-evaluate my view of the situation. There's so much going on behind the scenes, it's hard to make an accurate observation of the war and everything surrounding it
#372 - kmichel (09/24/2014) [-]
No problem. I also forgot to mention that Russia's only naval base in the region is located in Syria, so add that to the list of Russia's interests. There are some very well-researched articles on the the Guardian or Salon that will cover most of these points, and link you to sources so that you can verify the information for yourself (for example, proof of Qatar's willingness to fund a US war). I tried to make points only if they have respected sources to back them up, but there's still some speculation in there and I hope you can recognize it then decide for yourself whether to believe my opinion or not. I've been researching this for a long time, but I'm sure that I'm still missing some pieces. It's complicated!
#376 - madefornsfwlol (09/24/2014) [-]
Don't forget Russia's nuclear subs in the mediterranean by Israel
#362 - kmichel (09/24/2014) [-]
Now here is where it gets speculative: Assad now appears to be supporting the strikes against ISIS. He likely sees himself confronted by two foes, ISIS being an immediate threat. He has a publicity war to win, and needs to get the US off his back. He strategically supports the air strikes against ISIS, seemingly taking sides with the Western world against terrorism. Once ISIS is defeated, the US may either offer a deal to Assad that would force him to resume pipeline negotiations with Qatar and Saudi Arabia, or choose to forcibly remove him from power. Given that Qatar and Saudi Arabia are jointly attacking ISIS with the US as their ally, that Qatar and Saudi Arabia strongly want Assad out of power, and that Assad doesn't trust the US, he will likely turn to Russia. This puts the ball back in Russia's court. The US would clearly predict this, but I can't predict the measures they would take to maintain their advantage.
User avatar #389 - noalternative (09/25/2014) [-]
Assad has secretly been funding the radical groups so that he becomse a "lesser evil"... just read a Danish article on the subject imma not gonna post it since most of you are not danish.

Someone please put this insane dictator infront of a court.
#359 - kmichel (09/24/2014) [-]
I'll try to summarize the situation. Syria enters into a pipeline deal with Qatar and Saudi Arabia that would bring massive volumes of natural gas from Qatar's northern fields through Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria, into Turkey where it would be distributed to Europe. Russia wants to maintain its dominance in natural gas exports to Europe, and feels threatened by the fact that Qatar's production of natural gas was estimated to exceed its own.

Russia then forces Syria to renege on the pipeline deal and Assad signs a new deal with Iran. Saudi Arabia begs Russia to reconsider, offering $20 billion and the promise of expanded political power in the Middle East. Russia, favoring its 50 year relationship with Syria, rejects the proposal.

Syria and Qatar then turn to the US, offering the same expansion of political power and presumably a cut of the natural gas profits. Qatar tells the US that if they fight a war in Syria, they will finance the entire thing. Russia plays the "moral" side, arguing in the media (the realm of surface politics) that a US invasion would create more chaos and death in Syria.

Leaked e-mails show that the chemical weapons attacks may have been staged by the rebels, and not caused by Assad. Other evidence corroborates, but does not prove the argument although it still weakens the US case. The US backs off under international pressure.

Enter ISIS, which was directly funded by the US in other parts of the Middle East. They gain power, and pose a legitimate threat to Assad. The US, meanwnhile, gains a stronger "moral" footing than Russia had previously, as ISIS starts doing some nasty things to civilians. ISIS is also a direct threat to Middle East stability, to US power, and to the security of the PetroDollar. So we also want to remove ISIS for reasons other than natural gas.
#262 - How exactly are we attacking them for economic gain? Currently…  [+] (15 new replies) 09/24/2014 on An FJ User Died Tonight +2
#354 - kmichel (09/24/2014) [-]
The US doesn't care about civilian casualties, just like any other powerful nation. It's a war motivated by natural gas.
User avatar #364 - icameforthepron (09/24/2014) [-]
You fucking shill, you realize that the United States has the largest reserve of Natural Gas in the world?
#366 - kmichel (09/24/2014) [-]
Please read my comments below. It's motivated by natural gas, just like Iraq and Afghanistan were motivated by oil. However, in Syria, we're not after the natural gas for its own sake. It's just that natural gas is at the core of an issue that involves at least 6 nations.
User avatar #368 - icameforthepron (09/24/2014) [-]
lololol I still can't believe you dickweeds think that we went into A-stan and Iraq to get oil.

>China buys almost all oil from Iraq
>A-stan is a shithole that no one wants for no reason.
User avatar #388 - noalternative (09/25/2014) [-]
Dont blame them they listen to lies and dont look on the ACTUAL MARKET f
#370 - kmichel (09/24/2014) [-]
We did. The fact that we get no more oil from Iraq now than we did before the war, or that Afghanistan lack oil, doesn't make oil any less of a motivating force for war in these countries. We didn't commit ourselves to over a decade of war in 2 countries to fight the "bad guys".
#371 - icameforthepron (09/24/2014) [-]
you naive child. I bet you think we actually earned shekels out of both wars.
#355 - madefornsfwlol (09/24/2014) [-]
How would we get natural gas from bombing Syria and Iraq? I can see how that was a reason in the past but i don't see how it applies currenty
#365 - kmichel (09/24/2014) [-]
3/3

Hopefully that wasn't too much of a mess to read through. I wanted to put the present in the perspective of the past. Like I said though, there are plenty of reasons to fight ISIS, but saving civilians isn't one of them,and if it were, then it'd be inconsistent with how we've behaved since WWII. You can't really fault the US for that way of thinking though.

With Qatar and Saudi Arabia so enthusiastic to support the US against ISIS, and Qatar still itching to supply Europe with natural gas, I can't help but think that natural gas is still on the table.
#369 - madefornsfwlol (09/24/2014) [-]
Thanks for clearing that up for me, a lot of that information is new to me..
It definitely makes me re-evaluate my view of the situation. There's so much going on behind the scenes, it's hard to make an accurate observation of the war and everything surrounding it
#372 - kmichel (09/24/2014) [-]
No problem. I also forgot to mention that Russia's only naval base in the region is located in Syria, so add that to the list of Russia's interests. There are some very well-researched articles on the the Guardian or Salon that will cover most of these points, and link you to sources so that you can verify the information for yourself (for example, proof of Qatar's willingness to fund a US war). I tried to make points only if they have respected sources to back them up, but there's still some speculation in there and I hope you can recognize it then decide for yourself whether to believe my opinion or not. I've been researching this for a long time, but I'm sure that I'm still missing some pieces. It's complicated!
#376 - madefornsfwlol (09/24/2014) [-]
Don't forget Russia's nuclear subs in the mediterranean by Israel
#362 - kmichel (09/24/2014) [-]
Now here is where it gets speculative: Assad now appears to be supporting the strikes against ISIS. He likely sees himself confronted by two foes, ISIS being an immediate threat. He has a publicity war to win, and needs to get the US off his back. He strategically supports the air strikes against ISIS, seemingly taking sides with the Western world against terrorism. Once ISIS is defeated, the US may either offer a deal to Assad that would force him to resume pipeline negotiations with Qatar and Saudi Arabia, or choose to forcibly remove him from power. Given that Qatar and Saudi Arabia are jointly attacking ISIS with the US as their ally, that Qatar and Saudi Arabia strongly want Assad out of power, and that Assad doesn't trust the US, he will likely turn to Russia. This puts the ball back in Russia's court. The US would clearly predict this, but I can't predict the measures they would take to maintain their advantage.
User avatar #389 - noalternative (09/25/2014) [-]
Assad has secretly been funding the radical groups so that he becomse a "lesser evil"... just read a Danish article on the subject imma not gonna post it since most of you are not danish.

Someone please put this insane dictator infront of a court.
#359 - kmichel (09/24/2014) [-]
I'll try to summarize the situation. Syria enters into a pipeline deal with Qatar and Saudi Arabia that would bring massive volumes of natural gas from Qatar's northern fields through Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria, into Turkey where it would be distributed to Europe. Russia wants to maintain its dominance in natural gas exports to Europe, and feels threatened by the fact that Qatar's production of natural gas was estimated to exceed its own.

Russia then forces Syria to renege on the pipeline deal and Assad signs a new deal with Iran. Saudi Arabia begs Russia to reconsider, offering $20 billion and the promise of expanded political power in the Middle East. Russia, favoring its 50 year relationship with Syria, rejects the proposal.

Syria and Qatar then turn to the US, offering the same expansion of political power and presumably a cut of the natural gas profits. Qatar tells the US that if they fight a war in Syria, they will finance the entire thing. Russia plays the "moral" side, arguing in the media (the realm of surface politics) that a US invasion would create more chaos and death in Syria.

Leaked e-mails show that the chemical weapons attacks may have been staged by the rebels, and not caused by Assad. Other evidence corroborates, but does not prove the argument although it still weakens the US case. The US backs off under international pressure.

Enter ISIS, which was directly funded by the US in other parts of the Middle East. They gain power, and pose a legitimate threat to Assad. The US, meanwnhile, gains a stronger "moral" footing than Russia had previously, as ISIS starts doing some nasty things to civilians. ISIS is also a direct threat to Middle East stability, to US power, and to the security of the PetroDollar. So we also want to remove ISIS for reasons other than natural gas.
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