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#54 - if you get electric pumps and fans on your car the only things…  [+] (12 replies) 12/25/2015 on Black thocks 0
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#70 - ronyx (12/26/2015) [-]
Everything is powered by the gasoline, it's just a matter of how far into the chain. Gas keeps the engine running which makes the alternator work which keeps charging the battery as its constantly being used by everything including the ecu of the car. Without alternator the battery gets drained and the car shuts down.

Gas>engine>alternator>batyery>ECM and electronics
Depending on the load of electronics the engine will Rev up higher to produce more power.
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#71 - lukewarmpigeon (12/26/2015) [-]
no it won't, if i start my truck and turn on every electronic power draining thing nothing will happen, it will idle at around 850 rpm weather everything is on or off

in a points distributed carbureted motor there is no ecu to decide this, an alternator will only output in direct relation to the speed of the motor (i.e. the faster the motor turns the more power is generated) what isn't used get ground out through the frame.

only cars with electronically controlled throttle can do what you described
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#83 - ronyx (12/26/2015) [-]
You do realize that your truck does not account for all cars out there?
You do realize that cars with carburetors are almost phased out?
You do realize that most newer vehicles have an electronic throttle?
Any electronics like headlights will use gas because it puts the alternator on a heavier load OBVIOUSLY it's a very small amount in case it wasn't obvious to you.

If you don't believe me, a quick search on google will prove you wrong. I work with cars a lot so I know my apples.

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#85 - lukewarmpigeon (12/26/2015) [-]
yea, as do i. it doesn't actually affect the alternator if it did when white trash retards put 7 18 inch subwoofers in their cars they would need bigger and more alternators in their cars not batteries, carbs and points may be phased out in new factory vehicles but there are still 70+ years worth of vehicles that say you're wrong

i used my truck as an example because being 2002 its not completely outdated and its not a bad example for a vast majority of vehicles currently on the road
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#87 - ronyx (12/26/2015) [-]
You do realize that the alternator gets magnetized as load gets put on the alternator? Go to your truck, grab a screw driver and turn the ignition to on with accessories and headlights on, then place the screw driver on the pulley. It'll be magnetized, and as more load is put the magnetization gets stronger which requires the car to use more gasoline to keep the rpm stable.

Your argument of "the rpm doesn't increase therefore there alternator is not under load, therefore there is no more gas used" is just bad. Sorry m8, but all you have done so far is dance around the subject without actual proof to sustain your claims. And unless you can break the law of conservation of energy, then you're pretty wrong mate.
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#88 - lukewarmpigeon (12/26/2015) [-]
the way im understanding your rants is that if i take a vehicle with no ecu of any kind and turn every light on, turn the radio all the way up "charge" the cigarette lighter, and plug my phone in assuming there is an infinite supply of fuel i could at some point stall the motor via load on the alternator

the alternator is always putting the engine under some minuscule amount of load as is the water pump mechanical fuel pump ac compressor power steering pump mechanical fans and the transmission if the alternator's magnetic pull was strong enough to affect the engine's rpm at all it would be such a small amount that its basically nonexistent and the energy is conserved by changing from mechanical to thermal and magnetic, the magnetic translating almost directly to electrical (which btw is how a solenoid works)
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#89 - ronyx (12/26/2015) [-]
Wow, you seriously believe your own crap? I'm guessing everyone is wrong and the law of conservation of energy doesn't exist. Find me an engineer who actually believes your crap because I'm done with you. You bring no facts, but stuff you ASSUME and pull out of your ass. Science proves I'm right and obviously there is no science to back your claim, good luck living in a world with free energy.

I guess all my years working as a mechanic were just a dream and I don't know shit about cars, but some guy on FJ obviously knows more, huh who knew.
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#90 - lukewarmpigeon (12/26/2015) [-]
and i guess years of studying cars meant nothing, glad to know i wasted about 18 of my 22 years on this earth......i'll go kill myself now
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#58 - AcidFlux (12/25/2015) [-]
And what powers the alternator?
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#66 - lukewarmpigeon (12/25/2015) [-]
and in the case of starterless cars your original source of power is your arm because there is no battery or starter
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#65 - lukewarmpigeon (12/25/2015) [-]
technically the battery, battery turns the starter- turning/starting the motor- turning the alternator. no battery and the car is a pile of rubber and metal
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#29 - you could turn every electrical feature and the heat on in you…  [+] (14 replies) 12/25/2015 on Black thocks 0
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#50 - ronyx (12/25/2015) [-]
lolwat
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#54 - lukewarmpigeon (12/25/2015) [-]
if you get electric pumps and fans on your car the only things that would reduce gas mileage are the alternator (which is required to run the vehicle for a reasonable amount of time), the a/c compressor (you might be able to get an electric one im not sure, i'd rather not have it at all), and the driver themselves

the electronics are actually only powered by the battery not the alternator anyway. the alternator just charges the battery
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#70 - ronyx (12/26/2015) [-]
Everything is powered by the gasoline, it's just a matter of how far into the chain. Gas keeps the engine running which makes the alternator work which keeps charging the battery as its constantly being used by everything including the ecu of the car. Without alternator the battery gets drained and the car shuts down.

Gas>engine>alternator>batyery>ECM and electronics
Depending on the load of electronics the engine will Rev up higher to produce more power.
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#71 - lukewarmpigeon (12/26/2015) [-]
no it won't, if i start my truck and turn on every electronic power draining thing nothing will happen, it will idle at around 850 rpm weather everything is on or off

in a points distributed carbureted motor there is no ecu to decide this, an alternator will only output in direct relation to the speed of the motor (i.e. the faster the motor turns the more power is generated) what isn't used get ground out through the frame.

only cars with electronically controlled throttle can do what you described
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#83 - ronyx (12/26/2015) [-]
You do realize that your truck does not account for all cars out there?
You do realize that cars with carburetors are almost phased out?
You do realize that most newer vehicles have an electronic throttle?
Any electronics like headlights will use gas because it puts the alternator on a heavier load OBVIOUSLY it's a very small amount in case it wasn't obvious to you.

If you don't believe me, a quick search on google will prove you wrong. I work with cars a lot so I know my apples.

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#85 - lukewarmpigeon (12/26/2015) [-]
yea, as do i. it doesn't actually affect the alternator if it did when white trash retards put 7 18 inch subwoofers in their cars they would need bigger and more alternators in their cars not batteries, carbs and points may be phased out in new factory vehicles but there are still 70+ years worth of vehicles that say you're wrong

i used my truck as an example because being 2002 its not completely outdated and its not a bad example for a vast majority of vehicles currently on the road
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#87 - ronyx (12/26/2015) [-]
You do realize that the alternator gets magnetized as load gets put on the alternator? Go to your truck, grab a screw driver and turn the ignition to on with accessories and headlights on, then place the screw driver on the pulley. It'll be magnetized, and as more load is put the magnetization gets stronger which requires the car to use more gasoline to keep the rpm stable.

Your argument of "the rpm doesn't increase therefore there alternator is not under load, therefore there is no more gas used" is just bad. Sorry m8, but all you have done so far is dance around the subject without actual proof to sustain your claims. And unless you can break the law of conservation of energy, then you're pretty wrong mate.
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#88 - lukewarmpigeon (12/26/2015) [-]
the way im understanding your rants is that if i take a vehicle with no ecu of any kind and turn every light on, turn the radio all the way up "charge" the cigarette lighter, and plug my phone in assuming there is an infinite supply of fuel i could at some point stall the motor via load on the alternator

the alternator is always putting the engine under some minuscule amount of load as is the water pump mechanical fuel pump ac compressor power steering pump mechanical fans and the transmission if the alternator's magnetic pull was strong enough to affect the engine's rpm at all it would be such a small amount that its basically nonexistent and the energy is conserved by changing from mechanical to thermal and magnetic, the magnetic translating almost directly to electrical (which btw is how a solenoid works)
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#89 - ronyx (12/26/2015) [-]
Wow, you seriously believe your own crap? I'm guessing everyone is wrong and the law of conservation of energy doesn't exist. Find me an engineer who actually believes your crap because I'm done with you. You bring no facts, but stuff you ASSUME and pull out of your ass. Science proves I'm right and obviously there is no science to back your claim, good luck living in a world with free energy.

I guess all my years working as a mechanic were just a dream and I don't know shit about cars, but some guy on FJ obviously knows more, huh who knew.
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#90 - lukewarmpigeon (12/26/2015) [-]
and i guess years of studying cars meant nothing, glad to know i wasted about 18 of my 22 years on this earth......i'll go kill myself now
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#58 - AcidFlux (12/25/2015) [-]
And what powers the alternator?
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#66 - lukewarmpigeon (12/25/2015) [-]
and in the case of starterless cars your original source of power is your arm because there is no battery or starter
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#65 - lukewarmpigeon (12/25/2015) [-]
technically the battery, battery turns the starter- turning/starting the motor- turning the alternator. no battery and the car is a pile of rubber and metal
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#111 - is it really a spoiler when its literally one of two important…  [+] (2 replies) 12/21/2015 on Not Sure If Repost 0
#112 - fmannen (12/21/2015) [-]
"Oh hey, your wife get's shot."

Just because it happens in the tutorial doesn't mean it's not a spoiler.
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#121 - mondominiman (12/21/2015) [-]
Once you play you won't care. There's still like 99.9% of shit that hasn't been spoiled unless you looked for it
#79 - store it in the workshop it will share with the workbenches in…  [+] (1 reply) 12/06/2015 on Crafting In Fallout 4 +2
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#80 - xxhunterxx (12/06/2015) [-]
ah I see
thanks for the advice
#47 - i like how you talk about building a practical car to be faste…  [+] (1 reply) 12/04/2015 on rekt +3
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#63 - madb (12/04/2015) [-]
mu point about the smart car wasnt that it was practical. it was that you can make anything go better.