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#1557 - ron paul even if he does half of what he says he will do …  [+] (7 new replies) 06/19/2012 on Politics - politics news,... +1
User avatar #1642 - StarScream (06/19/2012) [-]
WTF why not?!?!?!
User avatar #1674 - airguitar (06/20/2012) [-]
Because the republican nominee has already been selected. Mitt Romney won very badly because Romney has more appeal to conservatives.
User avatar #1687 - StarScream (06/20/2012) [-]
Idk i just looked it up and he won Iowa yesterday and theres nothing of him dropping out, i mean theyve been saying he dropped out awhile ago and its all just lies
User avatar #1695 - airguitar (06/20/2012) [-]
Romney has already won:

http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries.html
User avatar #1778 - StarScream (06/20/2012) [-]
I fuckin hate america
User avatar #1786 - airguitar (06/21/2012) [-]
If you were following the election at all you would have known he didn't have a chance. You can hate the American government, but please don't hate an entire country of people you do not know or haven't met - I know I don't.
User avatar #1807 - StarScream (06/21/2012) [-]
thats what i ment. The government is a piece of shit, just a whole bunch of get rich scumbags
#1556 - im actually glad you brought this up. that little thing where …  [+] (8 new replies) 06/19/2012 on Politics - politics news,... 0
User avatar #1558 - pokemonstheshiz (06/19/2012) [-]
I didn't mean we were becoming communist, I just meant we were similar in that we are losing our say in the government. I actually did know it was called lobbying though, the pic is from the movie Thank You For Smoking (based on a book of the same name) and it's about a lobbyist for tobacco. It's quite cynical and well done in my opinion. But why is there nothing to stop lobbying? I think corporations should stop being treated as people, that would be a good start.
#1669 - logickid (06/20/2012) [-]
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User avatar #1671 - pokemonstheshiz (06/20/2012) [-]
Then why don't you?
User avatar #1672 - logickid (06/20/2012) [-]
cause im lazy :3
#1673 - pokemonstheshiz (06/20/2012) [-]
and it was honestly more of a question than an argument
also have this gif
User avatar #1560 - airguitar (06/19/2012) [-]
It started with the Great Depression and only got worse over time. FDR is hailed as a great president, I wont even go into some of the detail about the depression but it is an important fact that he expanded the role of government GREATLY. IT wasn't all his fault either, no one understood why the depression kept dragging on. This led to government taking a much bigger role and each subsequent recession afterwards led to more and more government intervention that was accompanied by big banks being bailed out leaving them above the law. Knokmo's suggestion of reading Ayn Rand is a good one. Her book "atlas Shrugged" in particular.

Basically, there is no such thing as eternal "small government". Once a government is given power it will expand that power over time. That is why libertarians, like myself, suggest that government be stripped of power so that the PEOPLE, the essence of a country, can be free.
User avatar #1562 - pokemonstheshiz (06/19/2012) [-]
I'm libertarian myself actually, but with the amount big business has invested in lobbying and media control, I don't think they'll just take it sitting down. You probably noticed, Ron Paul kind of got shut out in the election, partially because Fox didn't support him very much. Could it be because his presidency could have cause their company to suffer long run?
User avatar #1564 - airguitar (06/19/2012) [-]
They would have supported him if he had a chance of winning I think and if he backed their beliefs. However, Ron Paul does not belong in the Republican party. He only is republican because he wants smaller government. In all actuality, him being president wouldn't change enough of the lobbying process for Fox to be influenced, in fact he would maybe benefit Fox by lowering taxes.

Your "they wont take it sitting down" comment is a good point too. The bussinesses will try to influence the congressmen to do otherwise. That's what's different about Paul though, he isn't someone who can be influenced by lobbying. He sticks to his beliefs harder than any other legislator I've ever seen and that's one reason I love him.

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