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#68 - I get what you're saying about taxes but my point is that it w…  [+] (1 new reply) 15 hours ago on Couch 0
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#73 - Tusura (14 hours ago) [-]
I see what you're saying, and I'm inclined to agree.

We do however live in a capitalist democracy. Money will overrule the moral code in the long run. It's just a fact of life here in America.

There will always be people that will fight against something and claim it is a moral issue.
With marijuana though, that will most likely get pushed to the background in favor of state income. Marijuana is a massive cash crop, and a lot of states have realized that after the full legalization in Washington and Colorado. Those states have made hundreds of millions of dollars in tax revenue already.

Moral ground or not, everyone has a price they can be bought for.
#38 - That's an incredibly naive statement. Marijuana and many othe…  [+] (3 new replies) 18 hours ago on Couch -1
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#63 - Tusura (15 hours ago) [-]
Marijuana has never been sold on a large legal scale, nor has it been taxed by the government (except in a few recent states like Washington and Colorado).

The situation of taxing marijuana isn't very complex, it's just a lot of tedious work. It's also about where to draw the line on taxable products. Whether it's taxed in the beginning, or if the marijuana is used to make a different product, will that get taxed also?

Marijuana became illegal because of a false claim by inherently racist people claiming that "It makes white women want to sleep with black men". Moral grounds had nothing (or very little) to do with the decision. The general populace of America is much less racist now, than it was 60 years ago. As far as alcohol on Sunday goes, there are plenty of liquor stores that sell alcohol on Sunday. The one by my house even stays open till Midnight, every day of the week. It's a state by state, and county by county basis though. The laws differ depending on where you are.
This would be the same case for Marijuana. It would be regulated on a state by state, and possibly even county by county basis. Thus comes the complex and tedious process of deciding how much to tax it.

Marijuana offenses were also a great way for police officers to hit their tickets and arrests quotas that they claim don't exist. It's entirely pointless though, as most people that go to jail for possession or intent to distribute, do not change after they get out of jail. They go right back to "trappin wit Daquan".

Currently, only so many licenses are given out per state for growing purposes for medical marijuana or recreational marijuana. Even with a license, there are limitations on how many plants you can grow at one time, as well as how many you can have budding at one time. My wife's boss at the restaurant she works at, dropped $100,000 for a growing license that will kick in some time late this year. That was literally just for the license to grow. Tax #1. Then you will have taxes on the product sold to vendors. Tax #2. Then you'll have taxes from the dispensary at Point of Sale. Tax #3. All of these would have different ranges of how much it's taxed.
Then you get to recreational usage, and people that grow their own marijuana to avoid paying for it from a dispensary.
The government isn't getting a cut from taxing that marijuana, because it's unregistered. If that person sold -any- of that marijuana, it would be considered a crime. One of the crimes it would fall under is "Tax Evasion", because that person made money from a product, but the government doesn't get to tax it. That can be considered a felony if it's a large enough amount. It's an income that you didn't pay income taxes on. It'd be like having a 1099-A form during tax season, except you fudge the numbers saying you earned less than you did, so you can avoid paying a higher tax. This is super illegal by the way, and can land you in prison for life

It takes years to figure out all the numbers, and to determine if they're a high tax, or if they are reasonable. They will probably start out low, and work upwards until people complain enough that the product is too expensive because of taxes.
It happens to alcohol and cigarettes all the time.

It will get figured out soon. Medical marijuana, or even recreational use marijuana could easily be legal in the next 5-10 years nationwide.

There was nothing naive about my previous comment. It's just the cold hard truth.
#68 - kingpongthedon (15 hours ago) [-]
I get what you're saying about taxes but my point is that it will continue to be illegal in many places based solely on moral grounds. My point about Sunday sales is that there are plenty of places that will ban something because it's seen as sinful, I'm well aware that not everywhere is like that. And I know the racism involved in the initial prohibition, but that was considered a moral issue at the time. Today, it's still seen as perverting our youth and turning them into dirty hippies. Look, I live in South Carolina, our state was built on tobacco, we already have the infrastructure for growing pot from both a physical and regulatory standpoint. If it were solely a fiscal issue, we'd have been one of the first states to legalize it along with North Carolina and Virginia. The reality is we'll likely be some of the last states to legalize it because the people see it as fundamentally wrong and they'll vote against legalization no matter what the taxes on it are. It is absolutely naive to think the the opposition is looking at it from a regulatory standpoint.
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#73 - Tusura (14 hours ago) [-]
I see what you're saying, and I'm inclined to agree.

We do however live in a capitalist democracy. Money will overrule the moral code in the long run. It's just a fact of life here in America.

There will always be people that will fight against something and claim it is a moral issue.
With marijuana though, that will most likely get pushed to the background in favor of state income. Marijuana is a massive cash crop, and a lot of states have realized that after the full legalization in Washington and Colorado. Those states have made hundreds of millions of dollars in tax revenue already.

Moral ground or not, everyone has a price they can be bought for.
#121 - And if you don't treat the environment right, there won't be a…  [+] (4 new replies) 05/29/2016 on Old Froots +3
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#122 - SoraDono (05/29/2016) [-]
I don't care.
#184 - anon (05/29/2016) [-]
"My entire statement that I made one post ago was just shit all over by a simple fact"

"So NOW I don't care XD"
#134 - toxicwarning (05/29/2016) [-]
You are scum.
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#135 - SoraDono (05/29/2016) [-]
That's something you have to deal with.
#120 - Plants deplete the soil, animals replenish it. You gotta have both. 05/29/2016 on Old Froots 0
#402 - **kingpongthedon used "*roll picture*"** **kingpongthedon r… 05/28/2016 on Roll for your new girlfriend 0
#24 - Are you Lannisters by chance?  [+] (1 new reply) 05/28/2016 on light it +6
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#38 - Dember (05/29/2016) [-]
we would have to be much wealthier if that were the case :c
#87 - It's seen as being a sell-out which is hardly exclusive to the… 05/28/2016 on Culture of holding oneself... +1
#34 - It was a play on the word polar, I'm well aware of what …  [+] (1 new reply) 05/26/2016 on Ancestral pops and clicks 0
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#35 - meganinja (05/26/2016) [-]
I know but it doesn't make sense because he never even said arctic
#30 - The polar opposite of Arctic conditions would be Antarctic con…  [+] (3 new replies) 05/26/2016 on Ancestral pops and clicks 0
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#33 - meganinja (05/26/2016) [-]
The polar opposite of equatorial conditions would be arctic conditions.
#34 - kingpongthedon (05/26/2016) [-]
It was a play on the word polar, I'm well aware of what the intended meaning was.
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#35 - meganinja (05/26/2016) [-]
I know but it doesn't make sense because he never even said arctic
#66 - None of those would have been possible had the Renaissance/Enl… 05/25/2016 on /pol/ discusses white culture +11

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