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#79424 - And then they say Austrians are heterodox lel.  [+] (1 new reply) 6 minutes ago on Politics - politics news,... 0
#79425 - pebar (4 minutes ago) [-]
our textbook that semester was written by Paul Krugman
#2715866 - y u do dis  [+] (1 new reply) 1 hour ago on Friendly +1
User avatar #2715867 - zeruaargi (1 hour ago) [-]
Comedy is the one way I repress the hollow emptiness of my existence.
#2715863 - pls  [+] (3 new replies) 1 hour ago on Friendly +1
User avatar #2715865 - zeruaargi (1 hour ago) [-]
What? Were you not asking for Little People?
User avatar #2715866 - kanadetenshi (1 hour ago) [-]
y u do dis
User avatar #2715867 - zeruaargi (1 hour ago) [-]
Comedy is the one way I repress the hollow emptiness of my existence.
#2715858 - Any good LP recommendations?  [+] (10 new replies) 1 hour ago on Friendly +2
User avatar #2715877 - elbrysobrony (55 minutes ago) [-]
Cr1tikal?
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I have no mouth and I must scream best friends.
User avatar #2715872 - lordknightmare (57 minutes ago) [-]
Two Best Friends
Specifically Deeadly premonition, Heavy Rain, Beyond Two Souls or Resident Evil
User avatar #2715869 - kisman (1 hour ago) [-]
funhaus
User avatar #2715861 - zeruaargi (1 hour ago) [-]
I like the guy who played Mini Me in Autstin Powers.
User avatar #2715863 - kanadetenshi (1 hour ago) [-]
pls
User avatar #2715865 - zeruaargi (1 hour ago) [-]
What? Were you not asking for Little People?
User avatar #2715866 - kanadetenshi (1 hour ago) [-]
y u do dis
User avatar #2715867 - zeruaargi (1 hour ago) [-]
Comedy is the one way I repress the hollow emptiness of my existence.
#79414 - Still one of my favorites.  [+] (4 new replies) 1 hour ago on Politics - politics news,... +1
User avatar #79426 - marinepenguin (4 minutes ago) [-]
That's probably the most I've ever learned about economics.
User avatar #79423 - pebar (13 minutes ago) [-]
In our intro to macroeconomics class last year, our professor showed the first video to the class about 150 students
User avatar #79424 - kanadetenshi (6 minutes ago) [-]
And then they say Austrians are heterodox lel.
#79425 - pebar (4 minutes ago) [-]
our textbook that semester was written by Paul Krugman
#79409 - Pretty sure fascists support mixed economics based around nati… 1 hour ago on Politics - politics news,... 0
#2715847 - So there was this massive hype about a supposed super archer n…  [+] (2 new replies) 1 hour ago on Friendly +2
User avatar #2715890 - vigilum (33 minutes ago) [-]
Yeah, he's full of shit. "I found these forgotten techniques in a book"
The bit where he showed what would happen if you ran with a quiver was infomercial level, lol
User avatar #2715848 - elbrysobrony (1 hour ago) [-]
Still looks fucking cool, tho.
#2715843 - Hot 1 hour ago on Friendly +2
#2852 - Now you're just generalizing all fastfood restaurants, the one…  [+] (3 new replies) 3 hours ago on kanadetenshi's profile 0
User avatar #2855 - theluppijackal (2 hours ago) [-]
the reason I generalized is because Eric exposed all fast food chains, though he was mainly critical of McDonalds in some respects because of the brand image the Golden Arches has
www.statista.com/statistics/196614/revenue-of-the-us-fast-food-restaurant-industry-since-2002/
the fast food industry profits have been steadily increasing ever since his glaring expose in 2001, despite little changing
Want proof that little has changed?
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/12/still-a-fast-food-nation-eric-schlosser-reflects-on-10-years-later.html
"In 2002 the Occupational Safety and Health Administration changed the form that meatpacking companies must use to report injuries. The new form had no space to report musculoskeletal disorders caused by repetitive trauma—thereby preventing a whole category of serious injury from being counted. Instantly, as if by magic, the injury rate in meatpacking dropped by almost 50 percent. “Recordable safety incident rate in plants cut in half since 1996,” the American Meat Institute proudly announced in a press release, without ever mentioning that the decline was due to the change in record keeping. In a scathing report on the exploitation of American meatpacking workers, Human Rights Watch suggested that the AMI had deliberately chosen the year 1996, as a basis of comparison, to mislead the public. “A 50 percent drop in meat and poultry industry injury rates in a single year would be implausible,” the report noted, “but reaching back six years creates an impressive but fictitious improvement in plant safety.”

Much like the Jungle, rather than hit america in the heart, fast food nation hit americans in the gut, exposing [at least in Americas mind] the unhealthfulness and unsanitary conditions, rather than the human rights violations. Super Size Me exposed this trend as well, Mcdonalds became health, not safety conscious.
you want proof, I'm sure.
journalstar.com/news/opinion/meatpacking-workers-safety-still-an-issue/article_3bbcaef4-6ba4-553c-87ee-5fc395177797.html
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User avatar #2853 - theluppijackal (3 hours ago) [-]
sorry, I'm in game, I'll respond in a minute
#2850 - Besides the only thing you're doing is whining, you're offerin… 3 hours ago on kanadetenshi's profile 0

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#1922 - yooisa (10/27/2014) [+] (2 replies)
stickied by kanadetenshi
We'll live on front porches and swing life away
We get by just fine here on minimum wage
If love is a labor, I'll slave to the end
I won't cross these streets until you hold my hand
#2832 - theluppijackal ONLINE (5 hours ago) [-]
I had an idea. You know cigarette sales go down when governments mandate pictures of the cancers and diseases it causes on the boxes of cigarettes?
What if we did the same for people that use international sweat shops. how hard do you think nike sales would drop if we put stickers with pictures of their Chinese kids working on the 20 cent shoes?

anyway, how're you?
User avatar #2833 to #2832 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (5 hours ago) [-]
I don't believe in government interfering in the market, you know that.
User avatar #2834 to #2833 - theluppijackal ONLINE (5 hours ago) [-]
I know, but surely you're against the exploitation of people internationally by businesses as a sole means to increase profits.
Of course, people are always solely a means to increase profits in businesses, but you know what I'm saying here. I'm saying if Nike had show what cigarette companies had to show, less people would buy nike

Actually, that's an interesting question I should ask
Where do you stand on cigarettes? Given that second hand smoke actually kills quite a few people, isn't that in some way interfering with the nonviolence principle?
User avatar #2835 to #2834 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (4 hours ago) [-]
Exploitation of international business is caused by outsourcing jobs to other countries. One of the ways to prevent this is to stop increasing the minimum wage, as the minimum wage causes unskilled workers to become more costly than what they earn, thus losing profit for the company and thus outsourcing jobs in countries where there's no such law. Basically change of this exploitation needs to come from the market itself, make it less profitable to outsource jobs.

Should be dependent on who's private property allows smoking or not. Take for example restaurants or bars, the owners are the ones who get to decide if you're allowed to smoke there or not, those who don't like the risk of second hand smoke will just have to look for a place where they don't allow smoking.
User avatar #2836 to #2835 - theluppijackal ONLINE (4 hours ago) [-]
Well that answered what was going to be my question, as to whether or not your for a minimum wage. I'm not trying to criticize your views [I've come to terms with the fact that I'll probably just never agree with how stateless you think things should be] but, how do reconcile this with the fact that minimum wage arose precisely because of what Nike is doing. People gave **** unlivable wages and people had to take them because, **** , you need a job man.

I'm not surely of how precisely and how far secondhand smoke reaches so I'll take your word for it here.
User avatar #2837 to #2836 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (4 hours ago) [-]
Minimum wage was used as a solution for bad job conditions but it only made the conditions worse. We now live in an age where businesses would lose their reputation if they treated their employees inhumanely, that is at least in our countries.
User avatar #2838 to #2837 - theluppijackal ONLINE (4 hours ago) [-]
Uh
Given how well known the ****** Nikes factories are, as well as a short list of abusive businesses that brush off such criticism, [apples suicide nets] I have to really be skeptical of that.
User avatar #2839 to #2838 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (4 hours ago) [-]
"at least in our countries"
User avatar #2840 to #2839 - theluppijackal ONLINE (4 hours ago) [-]
Yeah but, just because it occurs half a world away doesn't mean people still know about it and buy the product

Okay, so what about the expose on [to use an example closer to home] of the abuses slaughterhouse factories suffer? Not the animals, the workers. They are often abused by coworkers or turn to drugs and alcohol because of it. I'm sure I could think of other instances of abuses that occur on home turf.
User avatar #2841 to #2840 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (4 hours ago) [-]
Most people hardly even know about the abuse.

Abuse which usually results into the places going down, but when it comes to abuse in the work environment guess who prevents people from exposing this? Government.
User avatar #2842 to #2841 - theluppijackal ONLINE (4 hours ago) [-]
I dunno man. I just don't see it. Abuses happening half a world away are still abuses, people still buy the product, despite being very well informed on the conditions in many cases.

There was an expose on the conditions that reached the NYT bestseller as recent as 2006, this is also neglecting Eric Schlosser expose which reached an even wider audience, he had several chapters on the abuse of the fast food companies and meat packing factories, a complete recycling of the intent of The Jungle.

Again, I'm not trying to critique you here, but I sincerely fail to see it.
User avatar #2843 to #2842 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (3 hours ago) [-]
That's why trying to use the government to mandate what they label is not the solution, the solution is making it bad profit for them to go to the other half of the world and outcourse jobs.
User avatar #2844 to #2843 - theluppijackal ONLINE (3 hours ago) [-]
I wasn't really being all that serious about labeling the nike boxes with pictures of factory abuses, though I can imagine that working, given the power of images

you're sort of drifting away from my main point of question here: people are aware of abuses and still buy products from abuse. What should one do about that where the government doesn't interfere with market?
User avatar #2845 to #2844 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (3 hours ago) [-]
I gave you an answer, local businesses cannot abuse employees without them going out of business and outside abuse is caused by government intervention like minimum wage.
User avatar #2846 to #2845 - theluppijackal ONLINE (3 hours ago) [-]
I cited local abuses that people know about and still buy said products. Hell, the discovery channel broadcasts the ****** conditions fishing boats undergo and all the workers talk about is how **** and dangerous their job is. Again, to use a close to home example.
User avatar #2847 to #2846 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (3 hours ago) [-]
You only gave examples of businesses that ended up failing and ones without any citation whatsoever. And even if your claims where true they would be far worse off under government intervention.
User avatar #2848 to #2847 - theluppijackal ONLINE (3 hours ago) [-]
Businesses that ended up failing? I talked about the well known abuses the fast food industry have.
Citation? It's literally reality TV here in America to see poeople with **** jobs
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadliest_Catch
User avatar #2850 to #2848 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (3 hours ago) [-]
Besides the only thing you're doing is whining, you're offering no solutions of your own.
User avatar #2849 to #2848 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (3 hours ago) [-]
You have given no evidence of any fastfood industry that didn't go down after poor business, the only thing you gave was a bias book without any proper citations and hardly even any context behind how these industries may have changed after his book, your claims are simply inconsistent. The only actual evidence you gave isn't even abuse, it's just showing working conditions based on a dangerous activity, it's as ******* stupid as saying people working on buildings are abusive towards people with fear of heights, no **** is a job that's GUARANTEED to be dangerous going to be ****** .
User avatar #2851 to #2849 - theluppijackal ONLINE (3 hours ago) [-]
www.statista.com/statistics/196614/revenue-of-the-us-fast-food-restaurant-industry-since-2002/
revenue is up, despite several years of exposing the working conditions there
www.komonews.com/news/local/Low-pay-sickening-conditions-Fast-food-workers-appeal-to-City-Hall-215167921.html
I'm not 'whining'
I'm asking you how this works in your minmd
User avatar #2852 to #2851 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (3 hours ago) [-]
Now you're just generalizing all fastfood restaurants, the ones who do emploit are in a terrible minority, fall out of business and people who use exploitation claims often rehash outdated claims to take fastfood joints that hardly even have anything to do it.

I've already gave you the answer, a free market is a superior solution, there's nothing else i'm adding to that.
User avatar #2855 to #2852 - theluppijackal ONLINE (2 hours ago) [-]
the reason I generalized is because Eric exposed all fast food chains, though he was mainly critical of McDonalds in some respects because of the brand image the Golden Arches has
www.statista.com/statistics/196614/revenue-of-the-us-fast-food-restaurant-industry-since-2002/
the fast food industry profits have been steadily increasing ever since his glaring expose in 2001, despite little changing
Want proof that little has changed?
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/12/still-a-fast-food-nation-eric-schlosser-reflects-on-10-years-later.html
"In 2002 the Occupational Safety and Health Administration changed the form that meatpacking companies must use to report injuries. The new form had no space to report musculoskeletal disorders caused by repetitive trauma—thereby preventing a whole category of serious injury from being counted. Instantly, as if by magic, the injury rate in meatpacking dropped by almost 50 percent. “Recordable safety incident rate in plants cut in half since 1996,” the American Meat Institute proudly announced in a press release, without ever mentioning that the decline was due to the change in record keeping. In a scathing report on the exploitation of American meatpacking workers, Human Rights Watch suggested that the AMI had deliberately chosen the year 1996, as a basis of comparison, to mislead the public. “A 50 percent drop in meat and poultry industry injury rates in a single year would be implausible,” the report noted, “but reaching back six years creates an impressive but fictitious improvement in plant safety.”

Much like the Jungle, rather than hit america in the heart, fast food nation hit americans in the gut, exposing [at least in Americas mind] the unhealthfulness and unsanitary conditions, rather than the human rights violations. Super Size Me exposed this trend as well, Mcdonalds became health, not safety conscious.
you want proof, I'm sure.
journalstar.com/news/opinion/meatpacking-workers-safety-still-an-issue/article_3bbcaef4-6ba4-553c-87ee-5fc395177797.html
#2854 to #2852 - theluppijackal has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #2853 to #2852 - theluppijackal ONLINE (3 hours ago) [-]
sorry, I'm in game, I'll respond in a minute
#2831 - theluppijackal ONLINE (5 hours ago) [-]
>I'd love to know that my meat wasn't being tortured for years before it died. But for now, I love bacon more. Call me out. I don't care.   
It's 						*******					 amazing that people will literally say they will let animals suffer for pleasure
>I'd love to know that my meat wasn't being tortured for years before it died. But for now, I love bacon more. Call me out. I don't care.
It's ******* amazing that people will literally say they will let animals suffer for pleasure
User avatar #2829 - yooisa (9 hours ago) [-]
<3
User avatar #2830 to #2829 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (8 hours ago) [-]
<4
#2807 - theluppijackal ONLINE (15 hours ago) [-]
What would an anarcho capitalist society do about pedophilia?
What would an anarcho capitalist society do about pedophilia?
User avatar #2808 to #2807 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (12 hours ago) [-]
Arrest the pedophile...
User avatar #2809 to #2808 - theluppijackal ONLINE (12 hours ago) [-]
yeah but I thought this was anarcho capitalism
isn't the point a lack of a state?
User avatar #2810 to #2809 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (12 hours ago) [-]
Lack of a state doesn't mean lack of rules.
User avatar #2813 to #2810 - theluppijackal ONLINE (11 hours ago) [-]
?
User avatar #2811 to #2810 - theluppijackal ONLINE (12 hours ago) [-]
States run prisons don't they?
Granted they've privatized a lot of the products within the system its so its ****** and focused on profit rather than rehibilitation
User avatar #2814 to #2811 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (11 hours ago) [-]
The prisons are terrible and profit based because of the states. Prisons lobby for government in order to push for things like drug wars which would not be possible under an ancap society.

I'm not familiar with possible Anarcho-Capitalist system since i'm not ancap. But i support prison being one of the jobs of the government (I support a panarchist like system with voluntary governments). Basically if people want to live in this voluntary government society and they commit an awful crime they lose the rights they had living there and will go to prison based on a restitution system.
User avatar #2815 to #2814 - theluppijackal ONLINE (11 hours ago) [-]
I'm well aware lobbyists pushed for the privatization of the prison system. But pointing the finger at the government for allowing such a thing seems a bit misdirected. but lets not get into petty disputes over that.

As a follow up,
How should one square the non-interference principal with the acts of WW2?
Granted it's the backlash our neutrality policy with WW2 that caused America to be the worlds police as it has today [and now the backlash to the backlash of being the worlds police] but how can one square pacifism with the Holocaust to be blunt?
User avatar #2816 to #2815 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (11 hours ago) [-]
It's not misdirected because they are the root cause, essentially prison is owned and ruled by the government but they let private systems in name handle it so they won't get the blame.

Well we're not pacifists, at all, pacificism means no violence whatsoever, not even self-defense. The thing with WW2 is that Hitler was clearly out for world domination, that means that it by de-facto also threatened the US and as such them joining the war would've been justified. But the simple fact remains, whenever the US intervenes in a war they always make it worse and end up killing more innocent people than the terrorists they oppose.
User avatar #2821 to #2816 - theluppijackal ONLINE (11 hours ago) [-]
also, you described absolute pacifism, not pacifism as a whole
User avatar #2822 to #2821 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (11 hours ago) [-]
Yeah you're right.
User avatar #2824 to #2822 - theluppijackal ONLINE (11 hours ago) [-]
I only say this because I find myself teetering between pacifism and absolute pacifism a little bit. I'd like to think I would never harm anyone substantially, even in self defense. Whether or not that's true, I don't knwo if I'll ever find out
User avatar #2817 to #2816 - theluppijackal ONLINE (11 hours ago) [-]
Well, lets say hypothetically it was only european domination [which he may have achieved had he not butt ****** Russia]
Would it then be the better choice to not interfere in that case?

you and I both agree all of americas wars are currently unjustified, so there's almost no discussion to be had there
User avatar #2818 to #2817 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (11 hours ago) [-]
The German economy purely rested on employing soldier and thus strongly relied on a war economy which is a very unstable and bad investment. So if the Germans just stopped invading places and there would be no need for millitary powe. The other remaining national powers would've simply put economic sanctions on the massive empire which would result into mass unemployment and a weaker government. Interfering with the war would've just kept the war economy going.
User avatar #2819 to #2818 - theluppijackal ONLINE (11 hours ago) [-]
Mmm, interesting in theory. If sanctions ever seemed to work. Sanctions seem to just make ****** situations ******** , usually.
User avatar #2820 to #2819 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (11 hours ago) [-]
Could you give me an example? I'm not too familiar with sanctions in history aside from the recent Russian one.
User avatar #2823 to #2820 - theluppijackal ONLINE (11 hours ago) [-]
Well, as a probably more extreme example, take sanctions with North Korea
All that really does is ensure that what little money and food is flowing around stays within the top 0.0001%. It also ensures that they continue their military complex as the only means to get attention. Because no one is giving them anything, the only way to get anything is go 'I'll nuke the **** out of you if you don't help me'
And yes, I am using the trickle down argument here, amazingly enough.
User avatar #2825 to #2823 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (10 hours ago) [-]
Interesting point, i'm not really a big strategist when it comes to foreign policy. Another interesting point i saw was to actually improve economic relations like the US did with Cuba which would allow for a better bond and negotiation for better human rights, though with North Korea's dire hatred for the US i don't see this happening soon.
User avatar #2826 to #2825 - theluppijackal ONLINE (10 hours ago) [-]
Oh yeah, the Cuba example would've been way better. Cuba would actually be running much better if USA let tourists and lifted the trade embargo
User avatar #2827 to #2826 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (10 hours ago) [-]
Yep yep, the free trade decision was a great choice. Though i'm not sure if tourist are allowed yet.
User avatar #2828 to #2827 - theluppijackal ONLINE (10 hours ago) [-]
I heard they were
But I'm too lazy to google
User avatar #2812 to #2811 - theluppijackal ONLINE (12 hours ago) [-]
at least in america
#2806 - theluppijackal ONLINE (23 hours ago) [-]
sistahvegan.com/2014/12/19/dear-peta-black-lives-matter-so-where-are-you-in-all-this-mess/   
   
&gt;that we’re not just here to promote your white neoliberal racist sense of animal liberation
sistahvegan.com/2014/12/19/dear-peta-black-lives-matter-so-where-are-you-in-all-this-mess/

>that we’re not just here to promote your white neoliberal racist sense of animal liberation
User avatar #2792 - yooisa (03/03/2015) [-]
All I want to get is
A little bit closer
All I want to know is
Can I come a little closer?
User avatar #2794 to #2792 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
You can be as close as you want. <3
User avatar #2795 to #2794 - yooisa (03/03/2015) [-]
It's not just all physical
I'm the type who won't get oh so critical
So let's make things physical
I won't treat you like you're oh so typical
#2796 to #2795 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
I'm a spiritual lyrical individual spiritual miracle lyrical individual spiritual miracle individual
User avatar #2797 to #2796 - yooisa (03/03/2015) [-]
Closer by Tegan and Sara (w/lyrics) Huh?
#2781 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
Ayo mayo
Ayo mayo
User avatar #2782 to #2781 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
Hai
User avatar #2783 to #2782 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
sup buttercup?
User avatar #2784 to #2783 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
Not much, watching youtube video.
User avatar #2785 to #2784 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
watcha watching?
User avatar #2786 to #2785 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
Roads in an Anarcho-Capitalist Society
#2787 to #2786 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
j'of course. A perfect way to wash down an Ayn Rand argument   
you know I still love you right, even though we strongly disagree on some ecnomics and politics?
j'of course. A perfect way to wash down an Ayn Rand argument
you know I still love you right, even though we strongly disagree on some ecnomics and politics?
User avatar #2788 to #2787 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
Sure.
#2789 to #2788 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
bby don't be like that.
User avatar #2790 to #2789 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
Considering one of my best friends is a cook who regularly makes animal products i'm pretty sure i can be friends with you.
User avatar #2798 to #2790 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
mmm?
User avatar #2793 to #2790 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
anyway, how was your day
User avatar #2799 to #2793 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
fine
#2800 to #2799 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
what do you eat and drink on normal days?
User avatar #2801 to #2800 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
I don't know, all kinds of food i guess?
#2802 to #2801 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
yeah but surely as a vegan you have stuff you eat more often?   
I eat chili and rice for like 14 out of my 21 meals in a week
yeah but surely as a vegan you have stuff you eat more often?
I eat chili and rice for like 14 out of my 21 meals in a week
User avatar #2803 to #2802 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
I eat all kinds of stuff, i don't really have a specific pattern...
User avatar #2804 to #2803 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
Okay, what did you have today and yesterday then
User avatar #2805 to #2804 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
Today i had pancakes, yesterday potatoes with vegan schnitzel.
#2791 to #2790 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
bby lets be more than friends.
bby lets be more than friends.
#2768 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
I SAID HI RESPOND TO ME BECAUSE I LOVE YOU   
 also do you think this would be worth a gander? www.amazon.com/The-Science-Evil-Empathy-Origins-eb
I SAID HI RESPOND TO ME BECAUSE I LOVE YOU
also do you think this would be worth a gander? www.amazon.com/The-Science-Evil-Empathy-Origins-eb
User avatar #2769 to #2768 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
I haven't read it but anything written by Simon Baron is worth looking at.
#2770 to #2769 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
Yay~!
Also, hi, what's up buttercup?
User avatar #2771 to #2770 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
I'm fine.
User avatar #2772 to #2771 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
doing something fuin?
User avatar #2773 to #2772 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
Not really.
User avatar #2774 to #2773 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
watcha
doing?
User avatar #2775 to #2774 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
Not much, just browsing around the internet.
User avatar #2776 to #2775 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
watcha looking at?
User avatar #2777 to #2776 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
I dunno, random stuff on the internet.
User avatar #2778 to #2777 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
any websites in particular?
User avatar #2779 to #2778 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
Dunno, funnyjunk and youtube i guess?
User avatar #2780 to #2779 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
sounds like fun
#2767 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/03/2015) [-]
hihihih
sup kana?
#2766 - theluppijackal ONLINE (03/01/2015) [-]
hi heathen
hi heathen
#2760 - yooisa (03/01/2015) [-]
Bojack Horseman is great. Makes me forget how ****** I've felt lately.

How's you?
User avatar #2761 to #2760 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/01/2015) [-]
I'm fine.Just woke up.
User avatar #2762 to #2761 - yooisa (03/01/2015) [-]
At the early crack of noon?
User avatar #2763 to #2762 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (03/01/2015) [-]
Hey it's sunday gimme a break. =_=
User avatar #2764 to #2763 - yooisa (03/01/2015) [-]
Too late
#2765 to #2764 - yooisa (03/01/2015) [-]
Great chat
#2753 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/27/2015) [-]
hi
User avatar #2754 to #2753 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/27/2015) [-]
hi
#2755 to #2754 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/27/2015) [-]
how goes it kana?
User avatar #2756 to #2755 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/27/2015) [-]
Not much, still watching the CPAC. Rand Paul and Rick Santorum had their speeches recently. Rand Paul got massive applauds and everyone was chanting "president Paul" while a lot of people started leaving when it was Santorums turn lol.
#2757 to #2756 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/27/2015) [-]
top kek   
I might vote Rand Paul
top kek
I might vote Rand Paul
User avatar #2758 to #2757 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/27/2015) [-]
But he's an evil capitalismist. :o
#2752 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/27/2015) [-]
Hey heathen. hows my favorite duckie?
Hey heathen. hows my favorite duckie?
User avatar #2751 - yooisa (02/27/2015) [-]
My sleep schedule is so ******
User avatar #2725 - yooisa (02/26/2015) [-]
Let's try this again<3

Hi
User avatar #2726 to #2725 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
Hai
#2729 to #2726 - yooisa (02/26/2015) [-]
How's you?
User avatar #2731 to #2729 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
I'm fine. :3

You?
User avatar #2733 to #2731 - yooisa (02/26/2015) [-]
I'm alright. Finally playing windwaker and rearranged my room again last night.
User avatar #2734 to #2733 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
Again? Why?
User avatar #2735 to #2734 - yooisa (02/26/2015) [-]
I tried sitting down and playing a console game. The tv was always at a weird angle. ;_;
User avatar #2736 to #2735 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
Lol, silly yuyuuu.
User avatar #2737 to #2736 - yooisa (02/26/2015) [-]
Am not :c
User avatar #2738 to #2737 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
Are too!
User avatar #2739 to #2738 - yooisa (02/26/2015) [-]
Nuh uh
User avatar #2740 to #2739 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
<3

Anyway imma be taking a shower.
#2742 to #2740 - yooisa (02/26/2015) [-]
You take too long.
You take too long.
User avatar #2743 to #2742 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
Hush i like my warm showers.
User avatar #2744 to #2743 - yooisa (02/26/2015) [-]
So sharing a shower's out of the question
User avatar #2745 to #2744 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
Hey if you can hog the bed then i'll claim the shower.
User avatar #2746 to #2745 - yooisa (02/26/2015) [-]
So we spend no time together? :c
User avatar #2747 to #2746 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
The longer you stay in the shower with me the more time we have together.
User avatar #2748 to #2747 - yooisa (02/26/2015) [-]
But warm, long showers are eeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhh
User avatar #2749 to #2748 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
Pleeeeeeb.
User avatar #2750 to #2749 - yooisa (02/26/2015) [-]
Says the one not enjoying cold short showers and not willing to just get close enough to share the blanket
User avatar #2741 to #2740 - yooisa (02/26/2015) [-]
<3

Alrighty. I'll join
#2722 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
hey heathen    
Sup my lovie?
hey heathen
Sup my lovie?
User avatar #2723 to #2722 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
I'm fine, trying to get a stream of the CPAC working.
User avatar #2724 to #2723 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
what's a CPAC?
Sounds like a Jew thing
User avatar #2727 to #2724 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
Pretty close. It's a conference for conservatards. Many republican politicians and activists speak there.
#2728 to #2727 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
I'm so behind on politics I've given up
I just assume they're ******* everything up
User avatar #2730 to #2728 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
It's pretty much the same political issues like immigrants, healthcare, debt and weed with the same politicians. Mainly watching to see which ones are the most libertarian leaning.
#2732 to #2730 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
send the towel heads back, 						****					 the sick and the poor, refer madness, gateway drug!
send the towel heads back, **** the sick and the poor, refer madness, gateway drug!
#2721 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/26/2015) [-]
hey heathen   
Sup my lovie?
hey heathen
Sup my lovie?
User avatar #2716 - yooisa (02/25/2015) [-]
Hi
User avatar #2717 to #2716 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
oh hai
User avatar #2718 to #2717 - yooisa (02/25/2015) [-]
How's you gril?
User avatar #2719 to #2718 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
I was about to go bed actually.
User avatar #2720 to #2719 - yooisa (02/25/2015) [-]
:c

I'm on morning shift starting Monday
#2687 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
What books do recommend on analysis of capitalism [besides wealth of nations]
User avatar #2688 to #2687 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Classics:
The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich Hayek
Capitalism and Freedom by Milton Friedman
Free to Choose: A Personal Statement by Milton Friedman and Rose Friedman
Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt
The Anti-capitalistic Mentality by Ludwig von Mises

For more recent stuff:

How an Economy Grows and Why It Crashes by Peter Schiff
The Politically Incorrect Guide to Capitalism by Robert Murphy
Social Security: False Consciousness and Crisis by John Attarian
Meltdown by Thomas Woods

Out of all of them by best recommendation is The Road to Serfdom
#2689 to #2688 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
>The Anti-capitalistic Mentality by Ludwig von Mises
You trying to tell me somethin'?
Fit me irl

Jk, luv u bby, ty
How're you today?
User avatar #2708 to #2689 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Also i have been thinking about dedicating myself to promoting Animal Abolitionism in my country. In The Netherlands Animal movements have been very big and successful and we even have Party for The Animals in our congress. But as you'd imagine they're all animal welfare so i want to promote the alternative animal rights view. That said i don't know where to start.
User avatar #2710 to #2708 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
I'd say start with any basic level of aware you can. Link gary francione lecture and books to the facebook page, give historical evidence to indicate that welfarism doesn't work overall [slavery, for example]
Organize group meetings at he nearest public meetup, etc. so on, so forth
User avatar #2711 to #2710 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Bleh if only i knew vegans irl in my area, much easier to start with a group altogether. I've also been thinking about joining the party's youth wing to establish a vegan/abolitionist caucus since most of the party is vegetarian.

I would love to have a conversation with Marianne Thieme (leader of the party), she actually became a vegan this year which should help motivate party members to promote veganism.

Also one of my classmates in veterinary class did internship at a "humane" goat milking farm, if you're interested i can tell you about his story.
#2712 to #2711 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Politics are always a mess and so slow moving. I wish you the most luck!   
   
That sounds like a hellah story   
do tell   
also, sick flip goat gif, obligatory
Politics are always a mess and so slow moving. I wish you the most luck!

That sounds like a hellah story
do tell
also, sick flip goat gif, obligatory
User avatar #2713 to #2712 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
So i live at the northern part of The Netherlands which are seen as the farmer provinces because well there are a lot of farms. So farms are usually the go to place for people studying something based around animals.

My classmate decided to go work internship at this goat farm where he would have to take care of sick goats with a cattle doctor. The farm was pretty much the prime example of what people call a humane farm. Completely free range, plentiful organic food, completely biological, almost everything was manual as opposed to mechanical and the farmer was overall a really nice guy who showed care for his goats and specifically opposed factory farms.

But despite this the farm was anything but humane. He would very frequently see goats dying and just lying dead on the floor, if goats where born as bucks they would immediately get send to a slaughter house for veal because it's not profitable, they would pierce tags into the goats ears without any anesthesia, bucks who serves their time mating with the does would get send to the slaughter and so did does who where completely milked out. Overall the whole experience was just very unpleasant to him.

And mind you this is what you would describe as a humane farm and all of this despite our country being very strict on animal humane laws was completely legal. And mind you the farmer did try his best to keep the place as humane as possible but the farming system itself just inevitably leads to suffering for animals.
User avatar #2714 to #2713 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Sorry, had to run to the store
Also, pretty much
I recommend reading 'the modern savage'
Rather than examining factory farm, he examines 'happy' and 'green' meat
www.amazon.com/review/R1UVZ3HQOJ5M45/ref=cm_cr_rdp
[my review of it. would appreciate a 'this review was helpful']
It's a quick read too, finished it in less than a week
Also, related, Eternal Treblinka just arrived.
www.amazon.com/Eternal-Treblinka-Treatment-Animals
I'll be sure to read some of it tonight.
User avatar #2690 to #2689 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
I'm fine, watching let's plays.
User avatar #2691 to #2690 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
watcha watching?
User avatar #2692 to #2691 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
PBGgameplay playing mario 64 chaos edition.
User avatar #2694 to #2692 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
oh yeah, there was two questions I wanted to ask you.
I wanted to know how you're doing on welfare animal rights v abolition animal rights
Last time we talked you were a fence sitter
User avatar #2695 to #2694 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
My skepticism of government legislation and more reading of Gary Francione has moved me towards the abolition side.
User avatar #2696 to #2695 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Oho, that's good. I myself firmly came down on the abolition side recently.
Laws only come about if there is a social shift beforehand after all.

Second, I was wondering what you thought of this Zizek quote
"People always ask me why don't you just say you're against facism...but it doesn't work like that...that's my wager here. Of course I'm against facism! 'There are just some ethical, tradition, even more to the left and facism appropriated more blah blah blah.' I think it doesn't have the desired precise political impact. I think it enables the liberals to re-appropriate. You must say it with excess."
Slavoj Zizek, Zizek!
User avatar #2697 to #2696 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Yep. I think a good argument for abolition would be looking at the failure of prohibitionism and how it made the issue it wanted to get rid of even worse. I think the only way to get mostly rid of animal cruelty is through a social paradigm where doing it becomes actually really taboo, in any other situation animal cruelty would get worse because the market still demands meat meaning that the market would simply change towards the black market.

I think that if the big animal welfare organizations and celebrities spend their time and lobbying to promote abolition then reaching this paradigm while still out of reach would go much faster.

And i'm not sure what he's trying to say. Does he say that the way people oppose fascism is not good enough?
User avatar #2698 to #2697 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
I think he's more or less arguing that by endlessly repeating something such as 'I'm against facism' makes the word become almost meaningless. It doesn't have an impact anymore to say you're against facism.
So Zizek wants to say it with flair, as he usually does.
User avatar #2699 to #2698 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Ah, well that makes sense. I see people accuse everything they dislike as fascist or nazist and it kind of downplays what the terms really mean.
User avatar #2700 to #2699 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Sort of like a spin on godwins law.
though, ironically that term has also changed. when people say Godwins law they tend to think that means the opponent has lost the argument when that's not what godwins law was at all
User avatar #2701 to #2700 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
There's a fallacy for that as well, called the argument from fallacy.

But yeah, i also think that Godwin's Law can be honestly applied to certain things when they actually parallel with the views of Nazism.
User avatar #2702 to #2701 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
I always bring in the holocaust comparison with animal rights [well, okay, not always]
And the most satisfying experience is telling someone I didn't make the comparison first, holocaust and ghetto survivors did.
User avatar #2703 to #2702 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Yeah i actually remember a vegan holocaust survivor doing an AMA.
User avatar #2704 to #2703 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
I think it was a ghetto survivor actually
or that may have been a different one
#2706 to #2705 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
>Warsaw Ghetto
ayyyy
User avatar #2707 to #2706 - kanadetenshi ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
Well he refers to himself as a holocaust survivor. Check your Ghetto-cis privilege.
#2709 to #2707 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
I only separate Ghetto and holocaust survivors because of the [brief] extensive research I did between the two   
While ghettos certainly weren't paradise, no doubt being in ghettos was head and shoulders above the camps. At least the ghettos functioned, relatively speaking.   
But yeah, generally speaking you can lump the two under holocaust survivors since [many, nearly all] ghetto people were shipped to camps.
I only separate Ghetto and holocaust survivors because of the [brief] extensive research I did between the two
While ghettos certainly weren't paradise, no doubt being in ghettos was head and shoulders above the camps. At least the ghettos functioned, relatively speaking.
But yeah, generally speaking you can lump the two under holocaust survivors since [many, nearly all] ghetto people were shipped to camps.
User avatar #2693 to #2692 - theluppijackal ONLINE (02/25/2015) [-]
I never platyed mario 64
I should
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