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|#53804 - We don't believe evil was "made" by god, we believe … [+] (4 new replies)||03/04/2014 on Religion Board||0|
|#53798 - Judeo-Christian. [+] (6 new replies)||03/04/2014 on Religion Board||0|
|#53793 - First of all, whom* Second of all, evil by God's stan… [+] (8 new replies)||03/04/2014 on Religion Board||0|
|#53791 - "At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be giv…||03/04/2014 on Religion Board||0|
|#53788 - Is it wrong to be enthusiastic about the return of our Lord? [+] (13 new replies)||03/04/2014 on Religion Board||0|
#53830 - jokeface (03/04/2014) [-]
Well there isn't much point in getting freaked out about something that's going to happen whether you like it or not. You can't stop it, so the best thing to do, in my opinion, is focus on the good that will come of it. Like, let's say you were scheduled to have a root canal. And for whatever reason, it's literally impossible to cancel it. You know it's got to happen, so why bother fretting? Just focus on the relief that will come when it's over. Stay optimistic. That's the mentality that we as Christians have. Or that we should have, anyway.
#53841 - thebritishguy (03/04/2014) [-]
There's a reason to say "I hope this doesn't happen soon" rather than " I hope this happens soon". I don't know what you mean by relief, I will be in hell, eternal anguish, the polar opposite of relief. I hope Christians aren't optimistic about Gods "final solution".
#53959 - anonymous (03/05/2014) [-]
As a Christian, I hope and pray it doesn't happen soon, because when it does it means no going back for those who don't believe. I look forward to heaven, but I still want as many people to be there too.
#53870 - jokeface (03/04/2014) [-]
Well, the "relief" part was pretty much just from our perspective. From your perspective, it doesn't matter, since you don't believe in anything happening after you die. So you really have nothing to worry about. Like I'm sure you've said before, telling an atheist they'll go to hell is like telling an adult that Santa won't be bringing them any presents this Christmas.
#53871 - thebritishguy (03/04/2014) [-]
Ok, sorry I didn't understand you. Don't you dislike the idea of people like me getting killed and sent to hell early? wouldn't you prefer it that Jesus just waited longer or didn't come at all to avoid his final solution. I hope you're getting my reference point, Hitlers passion to get rid of all the Jews and other humans he deemed subhuman in a mass genocide so that there would be a world of traditional, cheery, patriarchal Aryans. It seems similar to Gods plan.
#53872 - jokeface (03/04/2014) [-]
Yes, I dislike the idea of people going to hell. I don't understand why it has to be that way. But I'm not God, and I don't have the infinite wisdom and righteousness that He has. So I leave those decisions up to Him. The is, though, that this is going to happen. I can pray it away all I want, but He's made his decision. It's inevitable. And no matter how long He prolongs it, when the time comes for it to happen, it will always feel like it's too soon. So it doesn't matter when it happens, because it will be devastating and horrible for them no matter what. I'm not happy that they will have to suffer like that, but I've accepted it as an inevitability. That being said, I have to set aside my emotional reaction to it, or else it would eat away at me for the rest of my life. Nothing good comes from bad emotions, except the opportunity to better one's own self. So the best thing I can do, since I can't stop the devastation of the apocalypse, is to better my own self in preparation to be saved, and encourage as many people as I can to do the same. There's nothing else I can do, is there? (That's not rhetorical, I'm genuinely curious as to what you would have me do.)
#53898 - thebritishguy (03/04/2014) [-]
I don't want you to do anything but I don't like it when people are enthusiastic about the apocalypse as you said originally. How do you think it looks to me when I see people praying and begging for my destruction? Or old men who are thirsty for my torture and for it all to end? it's gross. I don't like it when people are enthusiastic or excited over this kind of thing.
But also on what basis do you judge God? if you think that Gods infinitely wise (whatever that means) and you can't say that he's wrong, then on what basis do you judge him as right? how can you say he is good if you can't judge him on the bad he does? Anybody is good if whenever they do something bad you say "well I can't judge you for the bad thing" you could look at Stalin and say "Well I can't judge you for those Gulags, but you have a lovely mustache so you're good"
#53904 - jokeface (03/04/2014) [-]
The destruction is not the part we're excited for. Here, let me try a different analogy. Imagine a small town that is in desperate need of a hospital, because people keep getting hurt or sick and end up dying before they can reach the nearest hospital. And in order to make room to build this hospital, they have to tear down a large section of residences. Now all the people that lived in that section have to be kicked out of there homes. That's awful and nobody wants to do that, but it's necessary, because the hospital is going to save countless lives. The people who aren't losing there homes probably don't want that to happen, but they still rejoice in the new hospital.
As for the second part of what you said, it's not there's a right and wrong and God is always in the right, it's that God makes decisions, and those decisions become right. See, there is no authority over God. No one to draw the line between moral and immoral. No one for Him to defy. So He draws the line Himself, and thus, everything He does is perfect, because there's nothing to compare it to. As a result, anyone that doesn't live up to His standard (which is basically everyone) is thereby imperfect. So to recap, God sets the standard of what is right, and so anything else is wrong.
#53908 - thebritishguy (03/04/2014) [-]
You already have a hospital after you "die" so you don't need to kill civilians. In fact you don't have to kill anyone because omnipotence stops anyone from needing to do anything. However the real crime is the sadomasochism of eternal torture. It's like all you had to do was wait a bit for a hospital but you want the hospital early at the cost of millions of lives.
You seem to believe in some kind of objective moral standard as if there's a ruler like in Mary Poppins which can measure how good you are. However morality is just a projection or opinion, there can't be a line, there isn't something which is measurably or factually immoral. Also this is very dangerous thinking is it not? because if you mis understand Gods words or if someone misused Gods words as they have been and continue to do ever since man asked "Why?", you can justify any act. "Genocide? God want it so it's ok" "smashing babies against rocks? God wants it so it's ok" You have found a loophole to justify anything.
#53912 - jokeface (03/04/2014) [-]
This isn't a discussion about the morality of God's actions toward humanity, it's a discussion about how we as humans respond to His actions. Say what you will about the eternal torment, but a moment ago you were only criticizing me for the way I felt about the imminent apocalypse.
See, that's one more thing you and I will have to agree to disagree on, because we as Christians believe that, yes, morality very much is black and white, and you can only be either infinitely righteous or infinitely sinful. All humans have fallen short of the perfection of God, which means all of us are infinitely sinful. "There is no one righteous, not even one." (Romans 3:10). "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters." (Matthew 12:30). The beauty of grace, however, is that even though we've all turned against Him, through Christ, He has given us the opportunity to return to Him. So when you say that it's cruel or unjust to send billions of people to hell, remember that He offers everyone a chance to be saved. It's just a matter of choosing to accept it.
#54062 - thebritishguy (03/05/2014) [-]
You know how conversations work, it progresses and delves into different aspects of the issue. If you know you will go to heaven after you die I don't know why you want an apocalypse now, knowing that I will die as well as others.
These words are nonsense words, you can't be infinitely anything because infinite is a mathematical concept. I'm not responsible for what someone who is an ancient ancestor did. If I was then I'd be a rapist, murderer, soldier, thief etc. because there must be many of those in mine or any lineage. You know that not everyone gets a choice as a very large amount of people have never heard the gospels as they live in other cultures, epochs or just don't have Christian parents. My acceptance depends a lot on my belief on the proposition, even if I did believe though I find human sacrifice morally reprehensible and so would be reserved about accepting a human sacrifice. I don't know why the test is mainly on my ability to believe in things without evidence or reason though because if I was gullible and gave into group pressure I wouldn't be more loving or caring, but I would be destined for heaven while people like Gandhi, Malcolm X and Carl Sagan who really changed the world would be in hell.
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|#5 - What's the Splenda for? [+] (2 new replies)||03/01/2014 on Mini Burger||0|
#10 - anonymous (03/01/2014) [-]
Actually i think he used the splenda sachet to make the mini fry bag from.
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#12 - sketchysketchist (03/01/2014) [-]
I think businesses take notice of these facts.
But once they take care of all the excess reserves, they only need to focus on making up for the energy that's wasted or lost due to expired batteries.
And they were in the middle of an energy crisis, so the city was saved from that but now they're going to have a surplus.
Unless the monsters of the universe use a lot of energy and the crisis was huge as fuck and the monsters inc workers were the wealthiest people around who can afford the super expensive energy, then maybe they saved the economy.
#34 - Gellfling (03/01/2014) [-]
or, you know, you could use that energy in the advancement of their age, moving from what was once thought impossible to what is now only trivial. more energy means stronger machines, more efficient machines, furthering their ability to research and develop. more power is directly linked to... well more power
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|#3 - I've accepted the fact that Toy Story's version of Mr. Potato … [+] (10 new replies)||02/28/2014 on You Swine||+68|
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|#52616 - You devious bastard. I lol'd and then got scared.||02/23/2014 on Religion Board||0|