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|#125 - You idiot, Jews get presents for like 2 weeks straight. [+] (3 new replies)||12/19/2013 on The little shit||0|
|#640 - Who gives a ****? Until he changes how the vatican believes th… [+] (9 new replies)||12/19/2013 on Person Of The Year||0|
#641 - ChewyConor (12/19/2013) [-]
Most people give a shit actually. One of the most powerful, influential and historically most violent religious groups is preaching a fuck ton of peace and tolerance. That's not something to be palmed off as insignificant.
It's not his job to feed the poor etc. he is going well above and beyond. It's also not his job to change the views of the Vatican. There are several hsitorical documents that the Catholic Church uses for reference as well as the Bible, e.g. the Catechism of the Catholic Church, or the Creed. They are their own country, so they have their own laws, that's just a fact. They are also the leaders of well over a billion people's religious views, so yeah, they dish out rules and guidance and expect them to follow that. There's nothing wrong with that set of facts. Especially when what they're preaching is peace and tolerance and growing humanity together.
#646 - jblackmetal (12/19/2013) [-]
1 instance is them refusing to give up info on pedophile priests. There is no way to justify that. But there is much more the vatican hides that everyone else holds up. Knowing that no one will enforce them knowing that their own borders have catholics and could cause strife in their own countries.
#653 - ChewyConor (12/19/2013) [-]
Firstly the pedophile priests thing was the previous Pope not this one, but even if we talk about that, the Vatican wanted to deal with those people internally. They held that the Catholic priests were representing the Vatican more than they were citizens of their country, they were more like international diplomats, regardless of their nationality, and therefore they should be dealt with, sentenced and punished from within the Vatican. In order to do so they needed to block the state's criminal prosecutions against them first (you can't deal with someone who's in prison 1000 miles away). Whether they went too far or were simply protecting pedophiles from prosecution is completely unknown because all the media reported about was the fact that the Vatican was blocking criminal prosecutions against pedophiles, the end.
"But there is much more the vatican hides that everyone else holds up. Knowing that no one will enforce them knowing that their own borders have catholics and could cause strife in their own countries."
That's also why they're a separate nation. To give them that freedom. What enforcement should have happened?
#656 - jblackmetal (12/19/2013) [-]
Ok, so you're saying that because the priests were catholic they should only be dealt with by the vatican? Are you retarded? That's like saying that a muslim who commits an act of terror should be sent to saudi arabia, iraq, iran, or any of those countries for them to be dealt with even if they were born in America. No, you commit a crime in a country and you are subject to that country's laws. JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
BTW, you're misinformed, he has attempted to cover up pedophiles already. He sure as hell isn't releasing information. They've covered a lot more up than just pedophiles.
#657 - ChewyConor (12/19/2013) [-]
It's nothing like sending a muslim terrorist for prosecution to iran or iraq or saudi arabia. If Mecca was a separate country with an independent muslim leadership AND it was muslim Imams, not just regular muslims, who were doing those things, then it would start to look similar and I'd be happy for them being sent to Mecca for punishment. I agree that people should be punished for crimes based on the country's laws where they committed the crime, but it gets more complicated with international diplomats and I think a Catholic priest represents the Vatican as much as any international diplomat represents their country.
I think you're the one who's misinformed. He's already issued a bill demanding that any member of the clergy who becomes aware of any criminal activity by another, especially in regards to child abuse, must report it immediately.
They're not releasing information because they want to prosecute them internally! If they released information, they would get thrown in jail in whatever country they're in.
You can be of the opinion that they SHOULD be thrown in jail in whatever country they're in, but given the Vatican's desire to prosecute internally, I can't see how they've acted wrongly at all.
#660 - jblackmetal (12/19/2013) [-]
Look it up. You'd be suprised.
The country that the offense happened in has the right to punish the ones that made the offense. The families of the victim deserve justice and witnesses will have to testify. The vatican isn't above laws that other countries have to abide by. By doing what they have done they silence witnesses and let criminals slip by. Your view appears very biased and clouded.
#665 - ChewyConor (12/19/2013) [-]
Look what up?
If the Vatican views their priests as diplomats on a diplomatic mission, then it follows that:
"The most fundamental rule of diplomatic law is that the person of a diplomatic agent is inviolable. Diplomats may not be detained or arrested, and enjoy complete immunity from criminal prosecution in the receiving state, although there is no immunity from the jurisdiction of the sending state."
The crux of the matter is whether Catholic priests are more citizens of their country or diplomats of the Catholic Church. Which is not obvious or trivial.
My views are not biased. I'm not a Catholic. I'm not even religious. I can simply see where they're coming from. Your conclusions seems to be "They are all evil greedy corrupt bastards" and then everything you see, read or hear is biased by your already formed conclusion.
#669 - jblackmetal (12/19/2013) [-]
Alright, so your point is that the vatican may choose to issue an express command of diplomacy to another country's ministers of a faith because their state is the religious authority of the religion the minister has claimed his faith to be. Which gives them the right to interfere as they see fit. Yet I am unjust is calling them corrupt because of their history of covering up crimes committed by MANY people associated with a fucking religion? They don't care about victims. It's all about saving face. Publicity makes them look bad and they can't have it exist in a world that wont buy "will of God" bullshit.
Search for his name and cover ups. You'll find things.
#673 - ChewyConor (12/19/2013) [-]
Every member of the clergy is officially appointed by a Vatican representative (i.e. Bishop or Cardinal, who are in turn appointed by Vatican representatives) It's not simply someone claiming to be a Catholic and suddenly having immunity.
I did a google search and all I can find is about someone accused of being a pedophile got removed from their post without informing the country they were in. Hardly a mass cover up. I still haven't read a single media report or reliable piece of information that cannot be explained by the Vatican simply wanting to prosecute internally and without huge media coverage.
"They don't care about victims."
Are you sure your views aren't biased? How could you possibly know what they care about? Stop spouting shit or find something genuine that can't be explained by the position I've stated above.
They may have a corrupt history. There may have been horrible people who reached powerful positions and did terrible things. That doesn't mean that the whole system is corrupt. Nor does it mean that the current crop of people is corrupt or that they aren't doing their utmost to eradicate corruption from the Church.
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